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- Wed Mar 13, 2024 12:33 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Tresor
- Replies: 81
- Views: 6325
Re: Tresor
The reality is that VK hasn't rated him enough to play him this season. If you want an explanation of why it's because in the one or two games he has started he hasn't been effective enough tracking back but that's just my opinion. Apparently, he was terrific for 43 minutes against Fulham before bei...
- Tue Mar 12, 2024 10:41 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Tresor
- Replies: 81
- Views: 6325
Re: Tresor
I had got really annoyed at fans slagging him off for only 7 minutes against Luton. After all, the games where he has played a half or more in the league, Man Utd H, Liverpool H, Fulham A, Chelsea H, we have been good on the whole and deserved more than the 3 points we got, even though it was again...
- Tue Mar 12, 2024 10:14 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Tresor
- Replies: 81
- Views: 6325
Re: Tresor
Yes I have quite a bit, although clearly only tracking he has been doing recently is the splinters in his backside. I wouldn’t want him tracking back too much though as what I have seen when he does that isn’t great, he is somebody you want with the ball at his feet in the opposition territory not ...
- Tue Mar 12, 2024 10:02 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: On this day
- Replies: 88
- Views: 7963
Re: On this day
Burnley Express had someone doing a cartoon strip of matches at the time which was far more entertaining then the match write up. This was his effort for the Huddersfield game. I don't know why all football match reports haven't been done like this over the last 100 years. (Courtesy British Newspap...
- Tue Mar 12, 2024 9:54 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Tresor
- Replies: 81
- Views: 6325
- Tue Mar 12, 2024 11:14 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Blackburn will
- Replies: 103
- Views: 6514
Re: Blackburn will
The only thing that is concerning with the plight of Rovers is that they have owners who are chucking in £20 million every season and they are still struggling.
- Mon Mar 11, 2024 5:17 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Team bonding.
- Replies: 36
- Views: 3387
Re: Team bonding.
You're hilarious, Bumba. Even your username is funny. It always raises a laugh. Honestly. This is priceless: Clovius Boofus mocking Bumba for his (it's got to be a He) Username. I suppose the modern world being the modern world it could be the same person mocking themselves online. I always wondere...
- Mon Mar 11, 2024 3:23 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Fofana
- Replies: 55
- Views: 4157
Re: Fofana
I can’t believe there’s people who don’t think that our squad this season would be too good for championship, that 11 today would be too much for Leicester There was 4 loanees on the pitch and we are likely to sell in the summer. There is no scenario where that 11 will be playing Leicester next sea...
- Tue Mar 05, 2024 7:13 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: The Premier League's worst bottom two
- Replies: 26
- Views: 2121
- Tue Mar 05, 2024 1:33 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast
- Replies: 659
- Views: 61736
Re: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast
Enjoyed the shows. My one complaint is that the The Pod Squad seem a bit too chipper. Given the Trades Descriptions Act the T Shirts should read 80% miserable - 20% a tad too chipper. I was hoping someone was going to mention the 4 loanees. I mean imagine being that sh*t and 4 loanees are keeping sq...
- Tue Mar 05, 2024 1:23 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Richard Keys
- Replies: 65
- Views: 7714
Re: Richard Keys
Never watched and know nothing about Richard Keys so he might be an awful person - who knows. On the other hand, I've read quite a bit by one or two who post on here to have a more definite opinion. Anyway Keys was interested enough to comment, which is more than can be said for some of the other pu...
- Mon Mar 04, 2024 2:45 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Alan Pace
- Replies: 66
- Views: 4200
Re: Alan Pace
I mean Kilby was worth a few bob and the fuss he made over a couple of million for the ITV Digit saga rumbled on for years. These people have big houses, properties, big cars, pensions, investments etc and the one thing I do know having met a few is they don't like spending their own money. btw apol...
- Mon Mar 04, 2024 2:42 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Alan Pace
- Replies: 66
- Views: 4200
Re: Alan Pace
He would have been earning a million + per year at CB, plus his investments. By most standards he is wealthy, I suspect the 10-15 million wouldn't have been a problem By most standards he is wealthy but not by PL standards. No, I'm sure that he could scrape together £10 - £15 million with the other...
- Mon Mar 04, 2024 1:31 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Alan Pace
- Replies: 66
- Views: 4200
Re: Alan Pace
Hi Pete, you are misrepresenting Alan Pace's positions at Citibank, "Global Head of..." is a lot more accurate that "divisional Director." Of course, his strategy with ALK Capital and Velocity Sports Partners is to create the opportunity for a number of people to take a stake in Burnley Football Cl...
- Mon Mar 04, 2024 10:39 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: The objective for the rest of the season
- Replies: 86
- Views: 4736
Re: The objective for the rest of the season
It's imperative for the club not only in terms of the morale of the players but also their value in the summer market and the levels of confidence in VK that we win some games and get over 20 points.
Carrying on as we are and limping to 17/18 points is best avoided.
Carrying on as we are and limping to 17/18 points is best avoided.
- Mon Mar 04, 2024 10:36 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Alan Pace
- Replies: 66
- Views: 4200
Re: Alan Pace
Slightly disagree with you there Pete. Although AP used the clubs money for a large part of the purchase, he may have used all of his money for his "share" of the purchase, therefore he is invested. On the advice bit, he will have 100 % taken Vinnies advice on the purchase of the players. On the be...
- Mon Mar 04, 2024 9:12 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Alan Pace
- Replies: 66
- Views: 4200
Re: Alan Pace
I actually like AP, not the way he bought Burnley, the way he manages Burnley. If Burnley is successful, he is successful and vice versa. At the moment we are going down the pan, he can see it just the same as VK and the fans. He isn't daft, he will be taking educated advice on why it isn't working...
- Sun Mar 03, 2024 6:54 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Cullen
- Replies: 44
- Views: 2304
Re: Cullen
What people forget about the beginning of the season when Cullen was starting was our completely naive tactics. You cannot have a midfield two of Cullen and Berge with four forward thinking players in front of them and expect to take on the likes of City, Villa, Spurs etc. Remember Brownhill was a ...
- Sun Mar 03, 2024 6:42 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Lack of speed
- Replies: 26
- Views: 1930
- Sun Mar 03, 2024 5:07 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Lack of speed
- Replies: 26
- Views: 1930
Re: Lack of speed
Another example is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pRUwimDgu4 if you play from 1:08 Odobert and Tavernier start off neck and neck. Odobert barely chases back and Bournemouth end up 3 v 4 with Tavernier setup for an easy pass on the edge of the box. In the event Solanki has a shot and misses. ...
- Sun Mar 03, 2024 4:50 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Lack of speed
- Replies: 26
- Views: 1930
Re: Lack of speed
Look at how much time Trafford wastes. Opposition teams have more than enough time to reset and get their shape back while he takes ages to play the ball. Nothing more irritating than how much our defence pass back to him when an attacking pass is on We are overrun in transition in the midfield. To...
- Thu Feb 29, 2024 5:34 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?
- Replies: 215
- Views: 8262
Re: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?
Vlad Torgovnik's entry is indeed an interesting one Club announced in early August 2023 yet Companies House were not informed until September 2023 and the October 2023 filed Confirmation Statement states shares were purchased on June 29 2023 What I am certain of is that is not the whole story Indee...
- Thu Feb 29, 2024 4:09 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?
- Replies: 215
- Views: 8262
Re: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?
I missed this...! 'I suspect that relates to the old loan that is now paid off (although could of course be a condition of any current loan).' Indeed and as I say, we will lose a good deal of Broadcast revenue possibly as much as £50 million and a further £25 million in debt re-payments if the terms...
- Thu Feb 29, 2024 4:01 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?
- Replies: 215
- Views: 8262
Re: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?
Vlad Torgovnik has ended up with £10m of shares with no publicity. Burnely is not a tech company, nobody is hoping for us to become a market-leading at many multiples of our current revenue. It's a mature company, not a start-up. Possibly the money has come from the club (as I said earlier, I'd be ...
- Thu Feb 29, 2024 2:45 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?
- Replies: 215
- Views: 8262
Re: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?
1) I don't think we've seen any information that suggests the £40 million loan that repaid the MSD loan was a bridging loan. All we know is that no security was registered against the club/club assets by this loan. A bridging loan would have required security to be registered. 2) Where do you get £...
- Thu Feb 29, 2024 8:48 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?
- Replies: 215
- Views: 8262
Re: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?
And again just to add further complexity to it. If we are relegated from the PL not only do we lose something like £20 - £30 million of Broadcast revenue but there is a clause in the 21/22 accounts that says we have to repay the current loan back up to 75 per cent of the parachute money limited to £...
- Thu Feb 29, 2024 8:33 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?
- Replies: 215
- Views: 8262
Re: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?
I don't follow you. There hasn't been any investment in Burnley FC. None. all the money that ALK have spent has gone to Mike Garlick and other shareholders; none of it has come into the club. Quite the reverse - they have taken £115m out of the club. How can you read that from what I have written d...
- Thu Feb 29, 2024 12:07 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?
- Replies: 215
- Views: 8262
Re: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?
Why would anyone be surprised that Wall Street financiers behave like Wall Street Financiers. We lived through the worst crash ever because they were rolling up bad debt and sold it to each other. There are literally 100s of AI companies that produce nothing and live on millions of VC money. Amazon ...
- Thu Feb 29, 2024 12:01 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?
- Replies: 215
- Views: 8262
Re: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?
Hi Pete, what are you seeking to say? ALK borrowed £65 million from MSD secured against Kettering Capital - that owned shares in Calder Vale - Calder Vale that owned shares in Burnley FC Holdings Limited - and owned shares in Burnley Football & Athletic and Longside Properties and other subsids - a...
- Wed Feb 28, 2024 11:57 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?
- Replies: 215
- Views: 8262
- Wed Feb 28, 2024 11:56 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?
- Replies: 215
- Views: 8262
Re: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?
But why? It all seems unnecessarily complicated and I'm not sure what is the upshot that wouldn't happen anyway. Paying loads of interest on private loans just so they can do what they'd do anyway seems strange. And obviously we all know that there haven't been dividend payments. It all sounds a bi...
- Wed Feb 28, 2024 10:46 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?
- Replies: 215
- Views: 8262
Re: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?
The working assumption until proven otherwise is ALK/VSL - whether it is via loans outside the sphere of impact on the club or from new investors in that group we do not know then again there is much we do not know - for instance who supplied the November 10th 2022 refinance loan to terminate the d...
- Wed Feb 28, 2024 3:29 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?
- Replies: 215
- Views: 8262
Re: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?
What we do know though is that the £80m in cash was a pretty significantly inflated number due to the anomaly in timing of the tv revenue payment and our year end cut off. It’s clear that was not the true cash figure in terms of our real asset figure. What we also know is that for a number of the s...
- Wed Feb 28, 2024 2:47 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?
- Replies: 215
- Views: 8262
Re: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?
It has been a while since I went through this so I will repeat there was an initial down payment of £10m from ALK, plus £65m from MSD and circa £23m from the club, following that there was another £14m borrowed from the club and that is where some people get £37m from because that was in the July 2...
- Tue Feb 27, 2024 6:14 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?
- Replies: 215
- Views: 8262
Re: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?
You're missing the point. Your argument is based on a lot of presumptions and possibilities. I don't like the way the club was bought either. At the end of the day your fears might well come true, and I'm not knocking anyone for having doubts and fears. I just think the board shouldn't be slagged o...
- Tue Feb 27, 2024 3:23 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?
- Replies: 215
- Views: 8262
Re: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?
All the talk of debt is distorting the argument. I'm like McCawber, I don't like it at all. That said in the business world debt is common, and what matters is is the debt serviceable. After 3 years of complaints, there's still no evidence that ALK aren't in control of the finances. If the possibil...
- Mon Feb 26, 2024 7:34 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?
- Replies: 215
- Views: 8262
Re: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?
I think on the evidence the project is seriously in trouble We failed to turn some of the best performing players in the Championship bought for £3 -4 million into PL players. It's as simple as that...! This season we have bought very young players for £10 million plus and in Amdouni's case closer t...
- Sun Feb 25, 2024 10:56 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: The most disappointing thing for me
- Replies: 42
- Views: 3080
Re: The most disappointing thing for me
I’ve said it many times but the most disappointing thing is we got promoted with an inverted fullback (Roberts), a high and wide full back (Maatsen), Cullen the deepest man at times collecting off the goalkeeper and filling in for the high full back. Inverted wingers, Gudmundsson not used wide but ...
- Sun Feb 25, 2024 10:19 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Amdouni
- Replies: 142
- Views: 7730
Re: Amdouni
Amdouni is a young player that should be sat on the bench in a PL squad so that he can be nurtured into the team, hone his skills and mature into a decent player. In the end, I suspect he will end up in a mid-table side in Ligue 1 or Eredivisie or one of the other European leagues, which is quite an...
- Sun Feb 25, 2024 10:09 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brownhill’s reaction
- Replies: 43
- Views: 4312
Re: Brownhill’s reaction
Brownhill is a professional footballer enduring a humiliating afternoon's work being laughed at and taunted by a bunch of morons. He's going to face the anger of his manager and be banned for 3 games.
What kind of an idiot would think that he wouldn't care about that...?
What kind of an idiot would think that he wouldn't care about that...?
- Sat Feb 24, 2024 3:17 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Burnley vs Palace Match thread
- Replies: 733
- Views: 17971
Re: Burnley vs Palace Match thread
Great away support - well done the travelling fans.
This is not looking good I hope we can pick it up but we look outclassed at the moment.
This is not looking good I hope we can pick it up but we look outclassed at the moment.
- Fri Feb 23, 2024 9:03 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
- Replies: 12654
- Views: 1225045
Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
I don't think losing loanees would be that huge an issue as you can replace them with more of the same. You'd also have the added benefit of a fairly young team getting a bit more experience. Ultimately it's not ideal but it wouldn't be terrible and it is unlikely that it would be a big financial i...
- Fri Feb 23, 2024 5:36 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Palace away - quietly optimistic...
- Replies: 99
- Views: 4502
Re: Palace away - quietly optimistic...
My prediction is this: First 20 mins on top completely dominating the game. After 22 minutes and 27 seconds Trafford will flap at a cross, completely miss it - the ball will then hit the post and rebound onto the back of Amdouni's head into the path of Jefferey Schlupp who will pass it into the net....
- Wed Feb 21, 2024 12:20 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Sean Dyche Matthew Syed interview
- Replies: 36
- Views: 3413
Re: Sean Dyche Matthew Syed interview
I like Mr D and I liked his team. His players were deceptively good and we saw they gave everything. They were mature men. The only problem he had at Burnley, was the inability to move one or two on and sign one or two, each season. That would have kept everything going. Instead, our squad just got...
- Tue Feb 20, 2024 3:00 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast
- Replies: 659
- Views: 61736
Re: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast
Obviously, loved the show, however, thought it was a bit cheeky to give VK some stick on his interviews given the sh*te you lot talked last week. I've checked my notes and certainly don't recall him predicting the demise of Arsenal and a triumphant redemption for the Clarets. An almost biblical like...
- Mon Feb 19, 2024 5:50 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Is Relegation such a bad thing really?
- Replies: 146
- Views: 5279
Re: Is Relegation such a bad thing really?
And to say more. The Financial landscape means that loans become important because the club's ability to offer 3 year contracts is impaired when there is such a fall off by year 3. And that is likely why we used loans last time. It means there likely will be a fire sale not to make money on players ...
- Mon Feb 19, 2024 5:38 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Is Relegation such a bad thing really?
- Replies: 146
- Views: 5279
Re: Is Relegation such a bad thing really?
some numbers given this is what people have been talking about over today Estimated Operating Revenues (player trading not included) before considering the factoring deal with Macquarie from last summer. Championship year 1: £60m - £70m Championship year 2: £50m - £60m Championship year 3: £15m - £...
- Mon Feb 19, 2024 1:45 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Is Relegation such a bad thing really?
- Replies: 146
- Views: 5279
Re: Is Relegation such a bad thing really?
So that’s our squad list courtesy of CT (2023/24) FIRST TEAM SQUAD 1 James Trafford Goalkeeper 10/10/2002 25 0 2027 2 Dara O’Shea Defender 04/03/1999 24+1 2 2027 3 Charlie Taylor Defender 18/09/1993 18+1 1 2024 4 Jack Cork Midfielder 25/06/1989 1+3 0 2024 5 Jordan Beyer Defender 19/05/2000 15 0 202...
- Sun Feb 18, 2024 11:41 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Is Relegation such a bad thing really?
- Replies: 146
- Views: 5279
Re: Is Relegation such a bad thing really?
It’s likely Berge, Odobert, Amdouni could all go for £20m each. Tresor for £10m. If need be, Ramsay, Trafford and co would all go for decent sums. I have no doubts the books could balance. That’s before we factor in the possible compensation claim. So I see us in a far healthier state than 20 month...
- Sun Feb 18, 2024 8:33 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Favourite films of all time
- Replies: 123
- Views: 4248
Re: Favourite films of all time
Ex Machina, Minority Report, Edge of Tomorrow, Oblivion, Dune (2021), Blade Runner 2049. I think there is theme there but if anyone went for The Godfather or Goodfellas wouldn't disagree. Also really loved The Banshees of Inershirin and in times past The Big Lebowski and Withnail and I. So many real...