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- Mon Mar 14, 2022 10:45 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: The Jack Cork mystery...
- Replies: 65
- Views: 5370
Re: The Jack Cork mystery...
FYI - Dyche inherited a team for whom Ben Mee played left back. It was the previous manager who moved him there. He played Ben Mee at left back and was forced to play him central, and then it clicked. Just for your information. And I'm a fan of Dyche, and hope he stays - but he got it wrong with Me...
- Mon Mar 14, 2022 10:30 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: The Jack Cork mystery...
- Replies: 65
- Views: 5370
Re: The Jack Cork mystery...
Dyche thought Ben Mee was a left-back and only put him central when I think it was Duff who got injured. He needs time to spot the obvious but he'll get there.
- Sun Mar 13, 2022 10:36 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Dyche going......
- Replies: 80
- Views: 6570
- Sun Mar 13, 2022 9:56 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Where would we finish in the Championship?
- Replies: 116
- Views: 4739
Re: Where would we finish in the Championship?
More like it!Woodleyclaret wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 9:53 pmTop, we will bounce back again in the unlikely event we go down
- Sun Mar 13, 2022 8:19 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: If the worst comes to the worst what have we got to show for all the Premier league money ?
- Replies: 125
- Views: 5766
Re: If the worst comes to the worst what have we got to show for all the Premier league money ?
This positivity cannot be tolerated.Vegas Claret wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 7:52 pmone thing we now have that we most certainly didn't until recently is a scouting network abroad. Brentford and Norwich have proved you can get out of the Championship with good cheap buys
- Sun Mar 13, 2022 7:37 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Where would we finish in the Championship?
- Replies: 116
- Views: 4739
Re: Where would we finish in the Championship?
Yep also true, though with parachute payments you’d assume we’d be in the top 6 for wages, as well as a favourite to go up, so there should be an attraction there for players. That's what I posted further up. We'll have 'pulling power' - not just wages, but players who want to play in the Premier L...
- Sun Mar 13, 2022 7:21 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Where would we finish in the Championship?
- Replies: 116
- Views: 4739
- Sun Mar 13, 2022 7:16 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Where would we finish in the Championship?
- Replies: 116
- Views: 4739
- Sun Mar 13, 2022 7:01 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Where would we finish in the Championship?
- Replies: 116
- Views: 4739
- Sun Mar 13, 2022 6:55 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: If the worst comes to the worst what have we got to show for all the Premier league money ?
- Replies: 125
- Views: 5766
Re: If the worst comes to the worst what have we got to show for all the Premier league money ?
Let's say - to balance the books, to balance what they would be like, had we stayed up.ClaretPete001 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 6:51 pmAgreed neither have I. In fact, it's not easy to find anything out about relegation clauses.
Who would you sell?
- Sun Mar 13, 2022 6:48 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: If the worst comes to the worst what have we got to show for all the Premier league money ?
- Replies: 125
- Views: 5766
Re: If the worst comes to the worst what have we got to show for all the Premier league money ?
I think our reputation has been damaged by the perception that we can just play agricultural football as per Stoke etc, us slightly older Clarets remember brilliant wing play, mobile midfielders etc, we had it for a spell with Defour but not for long enough and didn't enhance our reputation when we...
- Sun Mar 13, 2022 6:41 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Where would we finish in the Championship?
- Replies: 116
- Views: 4739
Re: Where would we finish in the Championship?
We were buying players with more debt. But people can follow the finance thread to discuss that.Milltown1882 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 6:37 pmA football club is like no other business, significantly more variables.
This seems to be a thread for the most pessimistic people in the country to discuss how badly we'll do next season.
- Sun Mar 13, 2022 6:36 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Where would we finish in the Championship?
- Replies: 116
- Views: 4739
Re: Where would we finish in the Championship?
But we already know the finances, so why are people confused as to what money there is to spend? The money we spend is an investment. Like with any other business.
- Sun Mar 13, 2022 6:33 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Where would we finish in the Championship?
- Replies: 116
- Views: 4739
- Sun Mar 13, 2022 6:17 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: If the worst comes to the worst what have we got to show for all the Premier league money ?
- Replies: 125
- Views: 5766
Re: If the worst comes to the worst what have we got to show for all the Premier league money ?
A significant amount of the money has funded ageing players contracts ie Long for 10 years, Bardsley , Stephens,JBG and not being savvy in the sale of certain players before they were ooc-Brady,Hendrick Brady was never fit enough to play, so a very sensible decision to get him off the wage book, an...
- Sun Mar 13, 2022 6:07 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Where would we finish in the Championship?
- Replies: 116
- Views: 4739
- Sun Mar 13, 2022 5:56 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Where would we finish in the Championship?
- Replies: 116
- Views: 4739
Re: Where would we finish in the Championship?
you would expect all those players to be at the top of our pay scale even on new deals - finances will dictate it, can we afford to have those level of contracts on the bench ? I know what you are saying, just not sure if it's viable and we also don't know what those players themselves think. Maybe...
- Sun Mar 13, 2022 5:45 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Where would we finish in the Championship?
- Replies: 116
- Views: 4739
Re: Where would we finish in the Championship?
I agree with this.EarbyClaret wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 5:43 pmSome people perhaps over-estimate the quality of the Championship.
- Sun Mar 13, 2022 5:44 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Where would we finish in the Championship?
- Replies: 116
- Views: 4739
Re: Where would we finish in the Championship?
I can see us offering a couple deals but for me we need younger legs in midfield especially But we still need depth. I'd like at least to offer Jay and Lennon a 1 years contract. Pieters too to remain cover for Taylor. Westwood and Cork can add depth if we did bring in a younger central midfielder.
- Sun Mar 13, 2022 5:40 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Where would we finish in the Championship?
- Replies: 116
- Views: 4739
Re: Where would we finish in the Championship?
And got us promoted twice. A lot of people I can tell have had that wiped from memory.PremierLeagueClass wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 5:39 pmAnd let’s not forget that Dyche has already brought us straight back once before.
- Sun Mar 13, 2022 5:38 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Where would we finish in the Championship?
- Replies: 116
- Views: 4739
Re: Where would we finish in the Championship?
Things will need to change and with the OOC players we have the ideal opportunity to do that. I'm thinking though - surely it's best to offer some players a new contract and only have to sign 3-5 new players; than to allow them all to pop off and we need to spend twice as much? I think doing this o...
- Sun Mar 13, 2022 5:29 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Where would we finish in the Championship?
- Replies: 116
- Views: 4739
Re: Where would we finish in the Championship?
if there is some kinda clause in the contract of Dyche, the potential of a ''new manager bounce'' must have crossed minds of the owners. It's the perfect Allardyce script. Dyche already had a very healthy existing contract. Think about it. Would he sign a new one if it meant he could be easily let ...
- Sun Mar 13, 2022 5:14 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: If the worst comes to the worst what have we got to show for all the Premier league money ?
- Replies: 125
- Views: 5766
Re: If the worst comes to the worst what have we got to show for all the Premier league money ?
Which "couple" of players are going to bring in circa £50m ? And £50m doesn't even cover the debt, interest payments and falling revenues More likely any of that £50m will go to paying off MG and JB Somebody mentioned in the main finance thread (forget what it's called), that the debt changes if we...
- Sun Mar 13, 2022 5:06 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: If the worst comes to the worst what have we got to show for all the Premier league money ?
- Replies: 125
- Views: 5766
- Sun Mar 13, 2022 4:57 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: If the worst comes to the worst what have we got to show for all the Premier league money ?
- Replies: 125
- Views: 5766
Re: If the worst comes to the worst what have we got to show for all the Premier league money ?
1. A wonderful new training ground. A genuine legacy. 2. A much improved academy, which will hopefully bear fruit when the next manager arrives, whenever that may be. 3. Alan Pace That's about the top and bottom of it. 4. Pulling power when we shop in the summer transfer window. Players who want to...
- Sun Mar 13, 2022 4:53 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Where would we finish in the Championship?
- Replies: 116
- Views: 4739
Re: Where would we finish in the Championship?
claretandbluesky wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 4:53 pmWe’ll struggle to keep players.
We’ll need to sell to keep the club afloat.
Dyche will want out.
Think we could we’ll be in a relegation battle unless we can hang on to key players.
We have no Ings
- Sun Mar 13, 2022 4:51 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Where would we finish in the Championship?
- Replies: 116
- Views: 4739
Re: Where would we finish in the Championship?
On the other hand he could be extremely confident having promoted us twice before.Wokingclaret wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 4:47 pmBig job in the Summer needed.......Dyche will be damaged too, unlike last time
- Sun Mar 13, 2022 4:46 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Where would we finish in the Championship?
- Replies: 116
- Views: 4739
Re: Where would we finish in the Championship?
What does having a lot of players out and playing our strongest side from the players remaining (many out of position), have to do with our chances in the Championship next season?
- Sun Mar 13, 2022 4:31 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Where would we finish in the Championship?
- Replies: 116
- Views: 4739
Re: Where would we finish in the Championship?
If they were to stay you'd think that both Cornet & Weghorst would be a level above the vast majority of other Championship strikers. I fancy Weghorst to stay. Cornet, not sure. I hear he's a £20m release fee and could see someone like Fulham interested. But I do think we need to keep one of Cornet...
- Sun Mar 13, 2022 4:18 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Where would we finish in the Championship?
- Replies: 116
- Views: 4739
Re: Where would we finish in the Championship?
Admittedly Weghorst could have that impact. However we’re playing to the complete opposite of his strengths at the moment so I just can’t see what would change in the Championship. Given our financial situation if we didn’t bounce straight back up it could be extremely worrying times. I think we'll...
- Sun Mar 13, 2022 4:15 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Where would we finish in the Championship?
- Replies: 116
- Views: 4739
- Sun Mar 13, 2022 4:14 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Where would we finish in the Championship?
- Replies: 116
- Views: 4739
Re: Where would we finish in the Championship?
Jay Rod scored 22 last time he was in that league, Vydra scored 22 last time. Weghorst scored 1 in 2 in a better league than Champ level. Now this was seasons ago and the former 2 may not resign anyway but your point doesn’t really make sense as neither Mitrovic or Solanke could score in the PL eit...
- Sun Mar 13, 2022 4:09 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Where would we finish in the Championship?
- Replies: 116
- Views: 4739
Re: Where would we finish in the Championship?
Watch it regularly. It’s easy to get dragged down to other teams levels in that league. I strongly disagree. I've watched a lot of games this season and teams in the playoffs are very poor. In fact, Fulham look similar to when they were in the Prem and got relegated - and they are by far and away t...
- Sun Mar 13, 2022 4:03 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Where would we finish in the Championship?
- Replies: 116
- Views: 4739
Re: Where would we finish in the Championship?
Confident we'll come back up top 2. If you think top 10 at best, you don't watch the Championship.
- Sun Mar 13, 2022 4:02 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Today’s Footy 13/03
- Replies: 119
- Views: 6129
Re: Today’s Footy 13/03
It’ll be us, Watford and Norwich in the end. Leeds and Everton will have just enough. Leeds have Bamford back and Phillips isn't far behind. 100% staying up. Brentford's win over us means they only need 3-4 more points (if that). 100% staying up. Everton will have more than enough to get the result...
- Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:57 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Today’s Footy 13/03
- Replies: 119
- Views: 6129
Re: Today’s Footy 13/03
I wonder who they could be.ElectroClaret wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:56 pmI think we can safely write Norwich off.
Two places to fill.
- Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:55 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Today’s Footy 13/03
- Replies: 119
- Views: 6129
Re: Today’s Footy 13/03
So it's now between Burnley, Watford and Norwich as to which 3 go down.
- Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:53 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Today’s Footy 13/03
- Replies: 119
- Views: 6129
Re: Today’s Footy 13/03
Some things are just too predictable.
- Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:39 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Today’s Footy 13/03
- Replies: 119
- Views: 6129
Re: Today’s Footy 13/03
You have to laugh or else you'd cry.
- Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:24 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Today’s Footy 13/03
- Replies: 119
- Views: 6129
Re: Today’s Footy 13/03
It's Carragher.Tricky Trevor wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:21 pmCarragher needs to make his mind up. Says Chalobah is pulling Murphys shirt, correct but minor, then says he pushes him over as he is actually pulling his hand off the jersey. Chalobah planted his left foot twice and didn’t make contact either time for me.
- Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:54 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Today’s Footy 13/03
- Replies: 119
- Views: 6129
Re: Today’s Footy 13/03
Correct.arise_sir_charge wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:53 pmWhy? If we can’t collect any points it makes no difference at all what others do.
- Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:39 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Today’s Footy 13/03
- Replies: 119
- Views: 6129
Re: Today’s Footy 13/03
I still think Watford will be the team that goes down with us and Norwich.
- Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:26 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Today’s Footy 13/03
- Replies: 119
- Views: 6129
Re: Today’s Footy 13/03
We didn’t manage so much as a clear cut chance at home to Norwich, let alone a goal - and they were on a 28 game losing streak in the PL or something mad like that. We've done better against the better sides. Should have been 2 or 3-0 up vs Liverpoo, did well vs Chelsea, Spurs, Arsenal. We then col...
- Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:21 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Today’s Footy 13/03
- Replies: 119
- Views: 6129
Re: Today’s Footy 13/03
To be fair, Leeds were always winning this one.
- Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:19 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Today’s Footy 13/03
- Replies: 119
- Views: 6129
Re: Today’s Footy 13/03
This is going well.
- Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:11 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Looking good for a few local derbies next season
- Replies: 32
- Views: 2446
- Sun Mar 13, 2022 11:12 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Dyche going......
- Replies: 80
- Views: 6570
Re: Dyche going......
Did the poster say by tomorrow? No he said that the thread is pointless because Dyche isn’t leaving. He doesn’t know that, that’s why I said it’s his opinion. This really isn't difficult to understand pal. It really isn't. Engage brain. The subject is: "Dyche going......" Now that is put across as ...
- Sun Mar 13, 2022 11:04 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Dyche going......
- Replies: 80
- Views: 6570
Re: Dyche going......
That doesn't make any sense. The thread title is put as fact. Then follows on without any facts that he's going.
- Sun Mar 13, 2022 10:55 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Dyche going......
- Replies: 80
- Views: 6570
Re: Dyche going......
Dyche isn't going, so why the thread subject?
- Sun Mar 13, 2022 10:50 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ‘Details’ lost us the game
- Replies: 51
- Views: 3579
Re: ‘Details’ lost us the game
Dyche is the right man to get us out of the Championship.