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by paulatky
Mon Apr 18, 2022 3:49 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Big news coming soon from the Turf (Sean Dyche sacked)
Replies: 1146
Views: 77004

Re: Big news coming soon from the Turf (Sean Dyche sacked)

Hi paulatky, yes, I've heard of cashflow projections. More than that, I may have been one of the first posters on this mb to suggest that people think about cashflow projections when they think about the club's finances. I've also posted that I'd expect Alan Pace and similar, experienced investment...
by paulatky
Mon Apr 18, 2022 3:44 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: According to the Athletic ....
Replies: 175
Views: 12732

Re: According to the Athletic ....

Absolute tosh based on nothing but your personal perception. I would back my judgment against yours any day. Why do you think they bought the club? Because they liked the area and liked Holland’s pies and beni & hot. No they did it to make a financial gain for themselves , albeit without risking mu...
by paulatky
Mon Apr 18, 2022 3:40 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: According to the Athletic ....
Replies: 175
Views: 12732

Re: According to the Athletic ....

Doing the rounds down here; Dyche and Ferguson went on the lash after the Everton game and got into a spot of bother. Pace being Mormon called Dyche in to discuss / explain and the sacking came about from that meeting. Perhaps the rumours about Dyche going to be the next Everton Manager actually ha...
by paulatky
Mon Apr 18, 2022 3:37 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Big news coming soon from the Turf (Sean Dyche sacked)
Replies: 1146
Views: 77004

Re: Big news coming soon from the Turf (Sean Dyche sacked)

Hi taio, no worries you not wanting to "be careful." You know the transfer window closed some months before ALK agreed their deal to buy the club. I admit I forget the date it closed in 2020, because of covid-19 lockdown etc. Let's say there were either 3 full months of wages to pay after the trans...
by paulatky
Mon Apr 18, 2022 3:27 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: According to the Athletic ....
Replies: 175
Views: 12732

Re: According to the Athletic ....

How were they to ‘make a killing’? How many club owners ever make a killing? If they are guilty of anything it is wanting the Kudos of having a football club without the finance to support it. AS for making a killing; you don’t get a fast turnover by paying over the odds, as a Banker it is one thin...
by paulatky
Mon Apr 18, 2022 2:46 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: According to the Athletic ....
Replies: 175
Views: 12732

Re: According to the Athletic ....

I don’t know much about the world of finance, nor the companies that dominate it. However, it seems just as naive to believe a group of businessmen who appear to have risen to high ranking positions in their chosen fields are prone to making rash and I’ll-thought through decisions without solid rea...
by paulatky
Mon Apr 18, 2022 2:42 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Big news coming soon from the Turf (Sean Dyche sacked)
Replies: 1146
Views: 77004

Re: Big news coming soon from the Turf (Sean Dyche sacked)

Literally every other club has debt. The debt is serviceable, not all debt is bad debt. And the Dyche that was sacked wasn’t the same Dyche that performed miracles from 2012-2019. Don’t be so short sighted. We will be fine. Where’s the £70m that’s due by the end of June going to come from if we are...
by paulatky
Mon Apr 18, 2022 1:20 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The Sun rumours today
Replies: 80
Views: 10841

Re: The Sun rumours today

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Mon Apr 18, 2022 11:30 am
It means people are putting money on it

Probably because its being talked about on here
Someone asked Sky Bet and Paddy Power to quote odds for Company. Looks like they added him to keep the potential punter happy
by paulatky
Mon Apr 18, 2022 1:01 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Is there a plan?
Replies: 238
Views: 13591

Re: Is there a plan?

jedi_master wrote:
Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:33 pm
Malcolm Jenkins investment will negate any of the financial penalties from relegation.
What investment is there from Malcolm Jenkins ?
by paulatky
Sun Apr 17, 2022 2:12 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Alasdair Beattie gone too
Replies: 212
Views: 13895

Re: Alasdair Beattie gone too

Blakesboots wrote:
Sun Apr 17, 2022 2:02 pm
I’m good thanks bud. I’m not into getting called out, it’s not school!
Very strange response , being called out to me means being caught out lying , yet you say you don’t want to be “ called out”

You obviously have a lot to hide.

A meet for a chat, a free coffee , what’s not to like.
by paulatky
Sun Apr 17, 2022 2:06 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Big news coming soon from the Turf (Sean Dyche sacked)
Replies: 1146
Views: 77004

Re: Big news coming soon from the Turf (Sean Dyche sacked)

gandhisflipflop wrote:
Sun Apr 17, 2022 2:04 pm
Literally every other club has debt. The debt is serviceable, not all debt is bad debt. And the Dyche that was sacked wasn’t the same Dyche that performed miracles from 2012-2019. Don’t be so short sighted. We will be fine.
I have a feeling those words will come back to haunt you !!!
by paulatky
Sun Apr 17, 2022 1:52 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Alasdair Beattie gone too
Replies: 212
Views: 13895

Re: Alasdair Beattie gone too

Or it builds a base that we can move forward with that is long term sustainable in the Premier league? The current model of old and tested pros is likely to prove itself badly in the very near future But that being sustainable in the PL looks like failing at the first hurdle and will leave us in th...
by paulatky
Sun Apr 17, 2022 1:48 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Alasdair Beattie gone too
Replies: 212
Views: 13895

Re: Alasdair Beattie gone too

🤦🏻 That’s a direct allegation and libel. You’re also suggesting that the mods, who do a decent job under tough circumstances will happily deprive someone of their freedom of speech on a hunch? I am not a previous poster, I am not Factual Frank. Let’s just leave your speculation there. Then meet up ...
by paulatky
Sun Apr 17, 2022 1:44 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Alasdair Beattie gone too
Replies: 212
Views: 13895

Re: Alasdair Beattie gone too

Blakesboots wrote:
Sun Apr 17, 2022 1:38 pm
I have replied.
As I said before that’s a politician’s reply, says nothing other than everything will be ok without saying why. Are you also Boris’s copywriter
by paulatky
Sun Apr 17, 2022 1:35 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Alasdair Beattie gone too
Replies: 212
Views: 13895

Re: Alasdair Beattie gone too

But by suggesting I’d be banned implies that you’d want that. I’ve not done, said anything to incur any sort of penalty. We’ve been in discussion about an emotive subject and no one bar you has escalated it from a genial discussion. You seem to keep running away from replying to the suggestion that...
by paulatky
Sun Apr 17, 2022 1:23 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Alasdair Beattie gone too
Replies: 212
Views: 13895

Re: Alasdair Beattie gone too

I have strong views on all sorts of issues. I try to be balanced with those views. I am very pro board, as I am thankful for the work and memories Dyche has given to fans in his time here. In my opinion I feel the board have acted correctly and decisively. As has been discussed at length prior to t...
by paulatky
Sun Apr 17, 2022 1:20 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Alasdair Beattie gone too
Replies: 212
Views: 13895

Re: Alasdair Beattie gone too

You bought your house with someone else’s money? You have made that analogy before Alan !! Don’t you remember what you said when you bought the club !!! It’s like buying a house you said It’s ok to have a mortgage of £500,000 when you are earning £80,000 but becomes a big big problem when those ear...
by paulatky
Sun Apr 17, 2022 12:59 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Alasdair Beattie gone too
Replies: 212
Views: 13895

Re: Alasdair Beattie gone too

Blakesboots wrote:
Sun Apr 17, 2022 12:55 pm
I don’t bet.
It was classed as an investment, similar to buying a football club with someone else’s money
by paulatky
Sun Apr 17, 2022 12:57 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Alasdair Beattie gone too
Replies: 212
Views: 13895

Re: Alasdair Beattie gone too

I will be there on Thursday cheering the team on and hoping we’ve got the new appointment in place. It would be great to meet up for a quick 10 minute chat. Always good to put a face to a name Strange that you have not been a member of this site very long but you obviously have strong views on the ...
by paulatky
Sun Apr 17, 2022 12:54 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Alasdair Beattie gone too
Replies: 212
Views: 13895

Re: Alasdair Beattie gone too

Blakesboots wrote:
Sun Apr 17, 2022 12:50 pm
That’s what Jedi said. 🤦🏻
Or you might be claretpunter , having finally made your fortune using the Martingale system.
by paulatky
Sun Apr 17, 2022 12:49 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Alasdair Beattie gone too
Replies: 212
Views: 13895

Re: Alasdair Beattie gone too

And is your long served distrust of politics and politicians influencing your thought process here? Would it help or hinder to say that I’m a Tory? Glad I can be intriguing to you 😊 Have you any comments on CP’s suggestion that £70m is due by end of June. Are you going to t’turf on Thursday I will ...
by paulatky
Sun Apr 17, 2022 12:41 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Alasdair Beattie gone too
Replies: 212
Views: 13895

Re: Alasdair Beattie gone too

I’ve not asked people to believe me. I’ve said nothing other than imo the club/chairman had every reason to sack Dyche once the lines had been drawn in the sand around recent events. Everyone is free to draw their own conclusions using the evidence, or lack of it that is present on the message boar...
by paulatky
Sun Apr 17, 2022 12:35 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Alasdair Beattie gone too
Replies: 212
Views: 13895

Re: Alasdair Beattie gone too

As with everything there is balance. You and I could read the same information and look at the same pictures and draw different conclusions via an unconscious bias or a dissonance in the fan base about Dyche and his tenure. It happens we’ve drawn the same one here. A fall out that has lead to a bre...
by paulatky
Sun Apr 17, 2022 12:07 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Alasdair Beattie gone too
Replies: 212
Views: 13895

Re: Alasdair Beattie gone too

Chester Perry wrote:
Sun Apr 17, 2022 12:03 pm
The monies I am talking about (and some I haven't yet mentioned) potentially come to over £70m by late June - can we raise that much in player sales by that date?
Over to Alan, oops I forgot BlakesBoots !!
by paulatky
Sun Apr 17, 2022 12:02 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Alasdair Beattie gone too
Replies: 212
Views: 13895

Re: Alasdair Beattie gone too

Within a few posts I was getting suspicious. Checked when they joined and it was two days ago and already posting lots of comments and I will say strong comments for a first time poster, hence my post saying if I was a betting man I would say they were involved with the owners. As might go as far t...
by paulatky
Sun Apr 17, 2022 11:54 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Alasdair Beattie gone too
Replies: 212
Views: 13895

Re: Alasdair Beattie gone too

hmmm owing money to friends comes with perhaps greater obligations if you have anything about you in both English and American cultures If those friends were the sellers, i.e. new friends - A good friend would pay them on time, even relinquish some of their other assets which they most likely have ...
by paulatky
Sun Apr 17, 2022 11:50 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Alasdair Beattie gone too
Replies: 212
Views: 13895

Re: Alasdair Beattie gone too

Read the rest of the board bud. It’s all there to piece together. Well I for one don’t believe the Everton rumours and if it was because of breakdown of the relationship between the players and Woan/Stone why on Friday when that has been brewing for some time. To me it smells of panic by AP in a de...
by paulatky
Sun Apr 17, 2022 11:26 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Alasdair Beattie gone too
Replies: 212
Views: 13895

Re: Alasdair Beattie gone too

Blakesboots wrote: ↑
Whilst there is law to protect employees, there’s very few enacted laws in football. Due to the nature of the role exits and terms are built into contracts.

The club has a good reason to sack Dyche.


If that reason wasn’t results based , please spill the beans Alan
by paulatky
Sun Apr 17, 2022 10:22 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: BFS & .....
Replies: 66
Views: 6152

Re: BFS & .....

Neil Critchley or Steve Cooper
by paulatky
Sun Apr 17, 2022 9:38 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Alasdair Beattie gone too
Replies: 212
Views: 13895

Re: Alasdair Beattie gone too

Dyche redirected money to the academy and to get Cat 1. We aren’t skint the books will show that, we’re about to get rid of the Dyche deadweights and we have money to invest. The “books” as you call it, the accounts to accountants aren’t due until June and will be at that time 12 months out of date.
by paulatky
Sun Apr 17, 2022 9:35 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Alasdair Beattie gone too
Replies: 212
Views: 13895

Re: Alasdair Beattie gone too

taio wrote:
Sun Apr 17, 2022 9:27 am
Where is the money coming from to invest if we go down? More debt, fire sale or somewhere else?
As Pace said in his latest interview, sale of players namely Pope and Cornet
by paulatky
Sun Apr 17, 2022 9:20 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Alasdair Beattie gone too
Replies: 212
Views: 13895

Re: Alasdair Beattie gone too

Blakesboots wrote:
Sun Apr 17, 2022 9:16 am
I don’t drink so it’ll have to be a coffee, but happily ☺️
Ah you are really Alan Pace

I bet you are not buying pizza next Thursday in the fanzone like you were a month ago

Ah sorry again , I forgot you don’t bet either
by paulatky
Sun Apr 17, 2022 9:15 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Alasdair Beattie gone too
Replies: 212
Views: 13895

Re: Alasdair Beattie gone too

No one in their right mind would buy a club like BFC, who have flirted with relegation and been relegated without a model that is serviceable in the championship for a period. Yes the pandemic has got in the way of investment, but it’s in no way unserviceable, it is in no way hamstringing us and we...
by paulatky
Sun Apr 17, 2022 9:08 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Alasdair Beattie gone too
Replies: 212
Views: 13895

Re: Alasdair Beattie gone too

Blakesboots wrote:
Sun Apr 17, 2022 9:03 am
Not in the football world, most sacked managers/employees get paid off. The contracts are very different, the landscape is very different.
Sacked and relieved of their duties and paid up are different things even in football.
by paulatky
Sun Apr 17, 2022 9:04 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Alasdair Beattie gone too
Replies: 212
Views: 13895

Re: Alasdair Beattie gone too

Blakesboots wrote:
Sun Apr 17, 2022 8:42 am
It’s serviceable. I wouldn’t worry, we owe money to friends not to HMRC.
For as long as we are a PL club
They will have to gamble on not going down ( as the last couple of days indicate ) or if it does gamble on getting back up as soon as possible
by paulatky
Sun Apr 17, 2022 9:01 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Alasdair Beattie gone too
Replies: 212
Views: 13895

Re: Alasdair Beattie gone too

Stayingup wrote:
Sun Apr 17, 2022 8:57 am
Hmm, very cloak and dagger.
Not if it’s results based
by paulatky
Sun Apr 17, 2022 9:00 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Alasdair Beattie gone too
Replies: 212
Views: 13895

Re: Alasdair Beattie gone too

Blakesboots wrote:
Sun Apr 17, 2022 8:51 am
Whilst there is law to protect employees, there’s very few enacted laws in football. Due to the nature of the role exits and terms are built into contracts.

The club has a good reason to sack Dyche.
Sacked and paid off are 2 different things
by paulatky
Sun Apr 17, 2022 8:17 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Alasdair Beattie gone too
Replies: 212
Views: 13895

Re: Alasdair Beattie gone too

He’s ambitious at a cost to BFC. Our chairman has put BFC at the top of the agenda and I’m fine with the actions taken. Dyche wanted a move to escape the BFS image he was getting. Let’s be fair he’s been off the script for the last three years. The way the club was bought wasn’t ideal, but I do fee...
by paulatky
Sun Apr 17, 2022 8:15 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Alasdair Beattie gone too
Replies: 212
Views: 13895

Re: Alasdair Beattie gone too

bobinho wrote:
Sun Apr 17, 2022 8:07 am
Because without it, it wouldn’t have gone ahead. He must’ve known how the deal was being financed, and he went along with it because it meant his own pockets were being filled.
Ah sorry , thought you meant MG was aware of the sacking before it was announced
by paulatky
Sun Apr 17, 2022 8:02 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Alasdair Beattie gone too
Replies: 212
Views: 13895

Re: Alasdair Beattie gone too

And all done with the knowledge (and backing) of Mike Garlick. Assuming it’s economics driven, in what scenario would the club likely save a few Bob when all those appointments will need to be replaced? When you look at the money In football, we are talking pennies, so I reckon that’s out. Dyche an...
by paulatky
Sat Apr 16, 2022 6:35 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Loughlan and Stone
Replies: 39
Views: 5999

Re: Loughlan and Stone

Woan always seemed to have turrets syndrome whenever I heard him talking
by paulatky
Fri Apr 15, 2022 10:23 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Big news coming soon from the Turf (Sean Dyche sacked)
Replies: 1146
Views: 77004

Re: Big news coming soon from the Turf (Sean Dyche sacked)

Chester Perry wrote:
Fri Apr 15, 2022 10:11 pm
Excepting that MG and JB are current board members who who Pace said it would be madness not to lean on as sounding boards given their experience, knowledge understanding and contacts
Yet it appears MG & JB didn’t know about this until it happened
by paulatky
Fri Apr 15, 2022 8:59 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Big news coming soon from the Turf (Sean Dyche sacked)
Replies: 1146
Views: 77004

Re: Big news coming soon from the Turf (Sean Dyche sacked)

Dark Cloud wrote:
Fri Apr 15, 2022 8:24 pm
It's not news to Chester Perry, because he's saying exactly that somewhere above.
CP is not saying that will happen,only saying that in a certain scenario it could happen.
by paulatky
Fri Apr 15, 2022 7:48 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Big news coming soon from the Turf (Sean Dyche sacked)
Replies: 1146
Views: 77004

Re: Big news coming soon from the Turf (Sean Dyche sacked)

I posted a few weeks back about something i found out from more or less the horses mouth. I also heard that the dressing room wasn't as harmonious as it used to be. The player in question is one of the OOC and it was said he had no intention of re-signing and cited a member of staff for causing dis...
by paulatky
Fri Apr 15, 2022 2:23 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Big news coming soon from the Turf (Sean Dyche sacked)
Replies: 1146
Views: 77004

Re: Big news coming soon from the Turf (Sean Dyche sacked)

All the ex pros praising Dyche & all he's achieved. They've been there, they know. Still trying to work out what the rationale behind this is. If anyone is expecting a bounce from the team, I'm sure they are equally shocked & heads will be in the wrong place as they face West Ham team & fans who ar...
by paulatky
Sat Apr 09, 2022 8:26 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Info - Norwich (a)
Replies: 25
Views: 2829

Re: General Info - Norwich (a)

Morrison’s near the ground are out of unleaded but had diesel at 6.00 pm tonight.
They are expecting a delivery of unleaded before 11 am tomorrow morning
by paulatky
Sat Apr 09, 2022 8:22 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Norwich fuel shortage
Replies: 23
Views: 2893

Re: Norwich fuel shortage

Morrison’s near the ground have diesel but are out of unleaded but they have a delivery expected in the morning.
Diesel seems to be available elsewhere but not unleaded
by paulatky
Sun Apr 03, 2022 1:33 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Motivation
Replies: 43
Views: 2628

Re: Motivation

Should Mee be in that list or does the club have an option for another year ?
by paulatky
Sun Apr 03, 2022 1:18 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Motivation
Replies: 43
Views: 2628

Re: Motivation

The fact that some players have a better chance of getting a contract offer it we are relegated is very worrying going into the next 10 games.

If we do go down we need to come straight back up
by paulatky
Fri Apr 01, 2022 10:00 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Relegation odds.
Replies: 44
Views: 2679

Re: Relegation odds.

Burnley1989 wrote:
Fri Apr 01, 2022 5:39 pm
I’d have had us at like 3/1 to stay up, bookies always win though so those odds don’t surprise me
If you think 3/1 should be reasonable odds for us staying up then 4/7 to be relegated must be very good odds in your opinion