Just thinking the same.jedi_master wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 11:33 amAll of this is just starting to feel a little bit off.
Mike Rigg (and Darren Bentley) leaving?
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I think that gives off a far better image than a football chairman going on twitter about the out goings of general staff within his football club.
He introduced him self, and now is busy going out business of replacing staff within the club and will be working on getting deals done for players.
Some fans really so think they’re more important than they actually are. It’s been pathetic over the past few days with posters whinging because they are not giving every scran of information.
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I can’t comment on all the departures by any means, but what I can say is that some of the people that have departed most certainly deserved to lose their jobs.jedi_master wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 11:33 amAll of this is just starting to feel a little bit off.
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Why say your going to communicate if your not?Dyched wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 12:04 pmI think that gives off a far better image than a football chairman going on twitter about the out goings of general staff within his football club.
He introduced him self, and now is busy going out business of replacing staff within the club and will be working on getting deals done for players.
Some fans really so think they’re more important than they actually are. It’s been pathetic over the past few days with posters whinging because they are not giving every scran of information.
Similar to when he said Dyche would be backed in January and then again at the start of the summer window.
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Dyched wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 12:04 pmI think that gives off a far better image than a football chairman going on twitter about the out goings of general staff within his football club.
He introduced him self, and now is busy going out business of replacing staff within the club and will be working on getting deals done for players.
Some fans really so think they’re more important than they actually are. It’s been pathetic over the past few days with posters whinging because they are not giving every scran of information.
Agreed. Think the mix up maybe some thinking that by communicating he would respond to every daft question asked of him on twitter.
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Do you really expect a chairman of a football club to post on twitter saying a bloke that worked in the media side of the club no longer works here?Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 12:09 pmWhy say your going to communicate if your not?
Similar to when he said Dyche would be backed in January and then again at the start of the summer window.
It’s pretty dissimilar on so many levels. If players weren’t available in January for the right money, why spend for the sake of it? Then there’s still time left in the summer transfer window.
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Oh my how did we manage before Twitter came along Twitter is for *****!
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New owners have come in. They are making changes to best structure the club to best support their business plans. Nothing more/less is going on.
Whilst not officially communicated it is believed that a few of the more prominent names associated with the club have either left or are in the process of leaving their roles. There have been a number of roles advertised publically to so we can see where recruitment is taking place and getting a bit of an insight into where the club is looking to invest.
I'm not sure what business it is of ours, as fans, to have any knowledge of the coming and goings of operational staff who predominantly are behind the scenes to support the running of the club and why we should expect the club to communicate on every facet of the running of the club just because someone thinks on here that its their right to know.
You have to consider that IF people are being affected by the changes at the club, whether it be redundancy, contracts not renewed etc - there are people involved with this and outside HR laws/general privacy and confidentiality considerations; these individuals who may come to expect, or may not want, their careers being discussed in public etc.
Whilst not officially communicated it is believed that a few of the more prominent names associated with the club have either left or are in the process of leaving their roles. There have been a number of roles advertised publically to so we can see where recruitment is taking place and getting a bit of an insight into where the club is looking to invest.
I'm not sure what business it is of ours, as fans, to have any knowledge of the coming and goings of operational staff who predominantly are behind the scenes to support the running of the club and why we should expect the club to communicate on every facet of the running of the club just because someone thinks on here that its their right to know.
You have to consider that IF people are being affected by the changes at the club, whether it be redundancy, contracts not renewed etc - there are people involved with this and outside HR laws/general privacy and confidentiality considerations; these individuals who may come to expect, or may not want, their careers being discussed in public etc.
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What amount of daily contact would you like? Hourly? What exactly do you want him to communicate at the moment?Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 12:09 pmWhy say your going to communicate if your not?
Similar to when he said Dyche would be backed in January and then again at the start of the summer window.
You do understand there are legal procedures to go through when getting rid of staff or making redundancies.
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The spirit of Bob Lord is alive and well
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I would like him to be true to his word and communicate regularlySteve-Harpers-perm wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 12:17 pmWhat amount of daily contact would you like? Hourly? What exactly do you want him to communicate at the moment?
You do understand there are legal procedures to go through when getting rid of staff or making redundancies.
Not once at the start of his tenure and then disappear.
He has been absolutely knowhere to be seen over the recent controversial changes
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To be fair, he enthusiastically tweeted about some Radio 1 DJs being on the Longside car park the other day.Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 12:26 pmI would like him to be true to his word and communicate regularly
Not once at the start of his tenure and then disappear.
He has been absolutely knowhere to be seen over the recent controversial changes
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How regularly?Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 12:26 pmI would like him to be true to his word and communicate regularly
Not once at the start of his tenure and then disappear.
He has been absolutely knowhere to be seen over the recent controversial changes
Controversial in your eyes and always to suit your constant negative narrative.
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I'd like to know when he's had his morning poo. An evacuated bowel plays a very important part in having a productive day.Steve-Harpers-perm wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 12:17 pmWhat amount of daily contact would you like? Hourly? What exactly do you want him to communicate at the moment?
You do understand there are legal procedures to go through when getting rid of staff or making redundancies.
I do not need to know size, colour or consistency.
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I would say controversial in many fans eyes given the reaction on social media to things such as the supporters clubs, going cashless, the total lack of transfer dealings. I think nearly every fan would like a response to them items rather than him tweeting about radio 1 being near the site.Steve-Harpers-perm wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 12:28 pmHow regularly?
Controversial in your eyes and always to suit your constant negative narrative.
It’s also worth noting that the daily mail sports writer even tweeted last night that he is concerned with the direction the club is heading
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To be fair people did go a bit overboard at first around how great Pace was with his communication with the fans and his Twitter and Youtube stuff, using it as a stick to beat the bogeyman Garlick.
Naturally on a messageboard like this you'll get a bit of backlash when others have gone a bit OTT on something and reality sets in and not much has changed (yet!!!)
Naturally on a messageboard like this you'll get a bit of backlash when others have gone a bit OTT on something and reality sets in and not much has changed (yet!!!)
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‘Many fans eyes’!Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 12:32 pmI would say controversial in many fans eyes given the reaction on social media to things such as the supporters clubs, going cashless, the total lack of transfer dealings. I think nearly every fan would like a response to them items rather than him tweeting about radio 1 being near the site.
It’s also worth noting that the daily mail sports writer even tweeted last night that he is concerned with the direction the club is heading
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The items I have mentioned are the most highly interacted posts on Burnley’s pages. Yes I would suggest more fans care about them topics
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I don't think I'm entitled to know every piece of information, Bentley has worked at Burnley for a while, he doesn't deserve the decency of a written statement informing fans he's left his role?Dyched wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 12:04 pmI think that gives off a far better image than a football chairman going on twitter about the out goings of general staff within his football club.
He introduced him self, and now is busy going out business of replacing staff within the club and will be working on getting deals done for players.
Some fans really so think they’re more important than they actually are. It’s been pathetic over the past few days with posters whinging because they are not giving every scran of information.
I think the supporters clubs were certainly worthy of communication about the potential bulldozing of something they kindly paid for and they looked nice too. For a community club, it's a poor do imo.
I'd have liked more open dialogue on the takeover finances too rather than sit and squirm while avoiding the questions but I understand i'm not entitled to that.
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One thing I found in business is that sometimes staff can become set in their ways and a change of mentality is required. The owners will I’m sure have looked at staff roles and their attitude towards the work they do. Let’s take give them the opportunity to run things how they believe their business should be run, they can then be judged.
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Good luck Darren, I always found him to be helpful in the few dealings I had with him. Darren, at least it’s an opportunity to get your handicap down.
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Fair point Beddie but a lot of these guys have seen the club’s turnover rise from a minuscule amount in the Championship days so they must be doing something right. Plus they have only had a few months in the midst of a pandemic to show what they can do. Do you think that is long enough for the likes of Pepper & Bentley to show they can adapt and change?
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Re: Mike Rigg (and Darren Bentley) leaving?
Agree with Ian
Darren deserves a thread of his own
I liked him a lot and he always stopped to chat for a few minutes especially at away games
I thought he was a good interviewer and he seemed to always be the one to interview SD post match
He helped me out a couple of times with ticket/claret player issues
Will really miss his cheerful face at Burnley matches
All the best Darren
Hope to see you again one of these days
Best of Luck
Mike
Darren deserves a thread of his own
I liked him a lot and he always stopped to chat for a few minutes especially at away games
I thought he was a good interviewer and he seemed to always be the one to interview SD post match
He helped me out a couple of times with ticket/claret player issues
Will really miss his cheerful face at Burnley matches
All the best Darren
Hope to see you again one of these days
Best of Luck
Mike
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Which Daily Mail writer?Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 12:32 pmI would say controversial in many fans eyes given the reaction on social media to things such as the supporters clubs, going cashless, the total lack of transfer dealings. I think nearly every fan would like a response to them items rather than him tweeting about radio 1 being near the site.
It’s also worth noting that the daily mail sports writer even tweeted last night that he is concerned with the direction the club is heading
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we need to be reading about people Arriving.
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Oh I saw that but he doesn’t work for the daily mail. Has Mr negative got the wrong paper?GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 1:14 pmhttps://twitter.com/reluctantnicko/stat ... 26275?s=19
Nixon has commented on it.
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Ian Herbert
“Worry for Burnley FC and the way they’re being run, with the people who are leaving. Can’t overstate what a superb media manager @IdleandWild has been for that club. One of the best in the business, as @sport_simon says in his report.”
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Rigg held one of the most senior positions in the club. And as for merging, threads were covering the same topics so was the obvious and sensible decision.Wadesawinger wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 11:25 amagreed Ian not sure why it had to be merged no disrespect to Mr Rigg but not a name I know
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As others have said, what some view as controversial will entirely pass the majority by.Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 12:26 pmI would like him to be true to his word and communicate regularly
Not once at the start of his tenure and then disappear.
He has been absolutely knowhere to be seen over the recent controversial changes
Most don't really care about the technical director or the media team or whatever. Social media hugely amplifies the concerns of a small minority.
It's pretty rare for businesses to announce departures, I'm not surprised that the Chairman didn't comment on this.
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Is Daniel Levy on twitter ? If so has he tweeted about Harry Kane in the last 48 hours
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Yes because Bentley likes to look after the Journos which was part of his job. Nothing wrong with a new broomNewcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 1:28 pmIan Herbert
“Worry for Burnley FC and the way they’re being run, with the people who are leaving. Can’t overstate what a superb media manager @IdleandWild has been for that club. One of the best in the business, as @sport_simon says in his report.”
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He’s not on twatter,so noclaretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 1:36 pmIs Daniel Levy on twitter ? If so has he tweeted about Harry Kane in the last 48 hours
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I don't see what the issue is, unless I'm missing something.
When a company takes over a business there is a transitional period, during which some of the old regime don't like the new one, so leave.
Not really a big deal, as long as the right people are hired to replace, if required.
People complain about the communication being poor, meaning it needed someone, or something different to run it. There were times when Darren Bentley posted on social media news that turned out to be false - not that that is his fault, although shows the old system was flawed.
Maybe he quit... I can't imagine a company would send a message out about that... where would you even start with saying it?
When a company takes over a business there is a transitional period, during which some of the old regime don't like the new one, so leave.
Not really a big deal, as long as the right people are hired to replace, if required.
People complain about the communication being poor, meaning it needed someone, or something different to run it. There were times when Darren Bentley posted on social media news that turned out to be false - not that that is his fault, although shows the old system was flawed.
Maybe he quit... I can't imagine a company would send a message out about that... where would you even start with saying it?
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Yes they’ve said he’s back at the weekend , probably already been agreed , but Sky need something else to talk about other than the blasted olympicsclaretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 1:48 pmProbably just put a statement on the club website then I presume
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I believe he sent handwritten letters to all season ticket holders updating them on the current situation with Kane. This has caused much annoyance amongst the fans who used to be regular season ticket holders but decided not to buy one for this season for a variety of irrelevant reasons.claretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 1:48 pmProbably just put a statement on the club website then I presume
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Re: Mike Rigg (and Darren Bentley) leaving?
Is it worth merging the 'staff leaving' thread as they are repeating the same topic - or close one down and ask them to use the other thread for commenting on?
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I always thought supporting Burnley was a pastime for watching football.
I can't ever recall having pre or post match discussions on recruitment and redundancy issues outside the playing and coaching staff.
I can't ever recall having pre or post match discussions on recruitment and redundancy issues outside the playing and coaching staff.
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On a personal point, I was enquiring as to how many had left, and if they’ve been replaced in any sort of manner , as I’m intrigued to see who is being brought into the club, this is a period where the club is changing and it’s interesting to see what changes the guys are trying to make. That’s all
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Which subway??rufus lumley wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 10:06 amI think Britney who dishes out pies in the Alex Elder kiosk has got a job at Subway so could be moving on.
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There isn't an issue tbh, just some people want to know all the ins and outs of staff at a business because there isn't much else to talk about.JTClaret wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 1:50 pmI don't see what the issue is, unless I'm missing something.
When a company takes over a business there is a transitional period, during which some of the old regime don't like the new one, so leave.
Not really a big deal, as long as the right people are hired to replace, if required.
People complain about the communication being poor, meaning it needed someone, or something different to run it. There were times when Darren Bentley posted on social media news that turned out to be false - not that that is his fault, although shows the old system was flawed.
Maybe he quit... I can't imagine a company would send a message out about that... where would you even start with saying it?
If we announced a new signing tomorrow people would forget about this stuff for a week or so.
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Thank You Darren Bentley
I live in America. When we played Aberdeen at home somebody emailed me to say that the match day prog contained a photo that I was on. Needless to say I wanted to get a copy of it for my collection But sadly they were sold out and I could not find one for sale anywhere. My last resort was to email Darren Bentley. He emailed back immediately to say there Was not a single copy available at the club. Obvious I had offered to buy the prog and pay for delivery to America. He just said let me see what I can do. Within a week I had my prog delivered free of charge I believe it was his personal copy. Now that’s what I call going above and beyond the call of duty. Thanks again Darren and all the very best for the future
I live in America. When we played Aberdeen at home somebody emailed me to say that the match day prog contained a photo that I was on. Needless to say I wanted to get a copy of it for my collection But sadly they were sold out and I could not find one for sale anywhere. My last resort was to email Darren Bentley. He emailed back immediately to say there Was not a single copy available at the club. Obvious I had offered to buy the prog and pay for delivery to America. He just said let me see what I can do. Within a week I had my prog delivered free of charge I believe it was his personal copy. Now that’s what I call going above and beyond the call of duty. Thanks again Darren and all the very best for the future
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Re: Staff leaving
Left or leaving as far as I knowHedontplayforyou wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 2:13 pmOn a personal point, I was enquiring as to how many had left, and if they’ve been replaced in any sort of manner , as I’m intrigued to see who is being brought into the club, this is a period where the club is changing and it’s interesting to see what changes the guys are trying to make. That’s all
Anthony Fairclough
Neil Hart
Jez Minihan
Paul Bradshaw
Jon Pepper
Tony Loughlan (his choice)
Mike Rigg
Darren Mowbray (his choice)
Darren Bentley
New staff
Ella Cummins - but was appointed ahead of the takeover
Michael Jackson
Don’t know of any other changes
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Re: Mike Rigg
He balances the books but your local post office postmaster has more ambition. He held the club back off the field.Steve-Harpers-perm wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 9:52 amI thought Baldwin was meant to be very well respected?
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That is Darren all over. I have been over several times from Malta and have always found Darren very approachable and a great help. I once sent him a couple of Malta vs England programmes which featured Tom Heaton and he got them autographed by Tom and sent back.FCBurnley wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 2:28 pmThank You Darren Bentley
I live in America. When we played Aberdeen at home somebody emailed me to say that the match day prog contained a photo that I was on. Needless to say I wanted to get a copy of it for my collection But sadly they were sold out and I could not find one for sale anywhere. My last resort was to email Darren Bentley. He emailed back immediately to say there Was not a single copy available at the club. Obvious I had offered to buy the prog and pay for delivery to America. He just said let me see what I can do. Within a week I had my prog delivered free of charge I believe it was his personal copy. Now that’s what I call going above and beyond the call of duty. Thanks again Darren and all the very best for the future
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100%GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 2:21 pmThere isn't an issue tbh, just some people want to know all the ins and outs of staff at a business because there isn't much else to talk about.
If we announced a new signing tomorrow people would forget about this stuff for a week or so.
I've not been on for a while and no idea if any rumours or what not. I come on and the place is in meltdown because the communication of the changes in positions of communication, which have notoriously been poor in the past, haven't been communicated to the extent they would like haha
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We are currently experiencing a power supply issue at Turf Moor - and Darren is the only one who knows where the fuses are !!
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We are currently experiencing a power supply issue at Turf Moor - and Darren is the only one who knows where the fuses are !!