Part cashless at the Turf

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Re: Part cashless at the Turf

Post by claret2018 » Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:08 pm

Only on here could this be seen as a negative
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Re: Part cashless at the Turf

Post by Peter Loo » Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:11 pm

ŽižkovClaret wrote:
Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:04 pm
There's a loom somewhere going un-smashed
Irrelevant, if the banks or any other institutions faze cheques and cash out that gives them the opportunity to levi a charge for spending our own money.

That’s why a choice is so important.
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Re: Part cashless at the Turf

Post by evensteadiereddie » Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:11 pm

Blimmin' 'eck - and I've only just got used to that there decimal stuff.... ;)

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Re: Part cashless at the Turf

Post by evensteadiereddie » Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:16 pm

Peter Loo wrote:
Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:11 pm
Irrelevant, if the banks or any other institutions faze cheques and cash out that gives them the opportunity to levi a charge for spending our own money.

That’s why a choice is so important.

There is a choice. You eat and drink at the Turf or you buy it somewhere elae that still takes coins and notes. Just as you'll have a choice to use a bank that doesn't "levi" a charge once cheques and cashout have been "fazed" out if your worst case scenario ever comes to pass.

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Re: Part cashless at the Turf

Post by Peter Loo » Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:18 pm

Irrelevant, read again carefully and then engage brain.

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Re: Part cashless at the Turf

Post by ŽižkovClaret » Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:19 pm

Peter Loo wrote:
Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:11 pm
Irrelevant, if the banks or any other institutions faze cheques and cash out that gives them the opportunity to levi a charge for spending our own money.

That’s why a choice is so important.
Cheques were due to be fazed out when i was in banking. In short, market traders and the elderly who both much preferred cheques saw that particular initiative off, although i'm really not sure it would now.

We were up to our necks in PPI claims, with packaged account complaints coming over the ridge at the time, so no-one really had the stomach for the fight really.

They have moved on a little though, allowing you to photograph / scan the cheque and submit it electronically, i believe.

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Re: Part cashless at the Turf

Post by evensteadiereddie » Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:20 pm

Peter Loo, I have - both - and still conclude you are complaining for the sake of it. The other possibility, the one where you haven't a card or are unwilling to use it on the Turf would be too stupid to even contemplate.
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Re: Part cashless at the Turf

Post by Long Time Lurker » Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:21 pm

This article gives an informative account of how cashless spending impacts on people and the propensity for such a move to increase overall spending by making it easier for people to over spend - possible leading to problems with short term or long term debt.

https://thedecisionlab.com/biases/cashless-effect/

and this one, which is linked to in the first article

https://thedecisionlab.com/insights/fin ... king-poor/

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Re: Part cashless at the Turf

Post by evensteadiereddie » Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:25 pm

You missed out the "some" before "people"....

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Re: Part cashless at the Turf

Post by KateR » Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:26 pm

Hard Earned Cash; does anyone actually still get paid in cash these days who is in a regular job, except for the odd small handyman jobs I've not paid a contractor in cash in years.

Certainly all my payments coming in are in bank transfers or crypto. 99% of my outgoing payments are in bank transfers and I have used checks for only a few things, probably not more than 10 a year. Additionally that's in the US, where banking is archaic, certainly UK banking miles ahead.

It's a good thing as far as I am concerned.
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Re: Part cashless at the Turf

Post by evensteadiereddie » Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:28 pm

Perhaps a "One person, one Twix" rule should be introduced in an effort to avoid any potential bankruptcies................

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Re: Part cashless at the Turf

Post by ŽižkovClaret » Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:50 pm

Long Time Lurker wrote:
Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:21 pm
This article gives an informative account of how cashless spending impacts on people and the propensity for such a move to increase overall spending by making it easier for people to over spend - possible leading to problems with short term or long term debt.

https://thedecisionlab.com/biases/cashless-effect/

and this one, which is linked to in the first article

https://thedecisionlab.com/insights/fin ... king-poor/
How many kit kats do you think people are going to buy?

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Re: Part cashless at the Turf

Post by Peter Loo » Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:14 pm

Long Time Lurker wrote:
Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:21 pm
This article gives an informative account of how cashless spending impacts on people and the propensity for such a move to increase overall spending by making it easier for people to over spend - possible leading to problems with short term or long term debt.

https://thedecisionlab.com/biases/cashless-effect/

and this one, which is linked to in the first article

https://thedecisionlab.com/insights/fin ... king-poor/
Thanks LTL obviously some people are to damn lazy and or don’t give a toss about anyone else.

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Re: Part cashless at the Turf

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:17 pm

Should help speed up the half time beer queue!

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Re: Part cashless at the Turf

Post by tiger76 » Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:24 pm

ŽižkovClaret wrote:
Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:50 pm
How many kit kats do you think people are going to buy?
Never mind the kit kats, what about the twixs. :lol:

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Re: Part cashless at the Turf

Post by evensteadiereddie » Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:26 pm

Peter Loo wrote:
Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:14 pm
Thanks LTL obviously some people are to damn lazy and or don’t give a toss about anyone else.
Too damn lazy to get a bank card ? :lol:

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Re: Part cashless at the Turf

Post by aggi » Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:30 pm

evensteadiereddie wrote:
Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:20 pm
Peter Loo, I have - both - and still conclude you are complaining for the sake of it. The other possibility, the one where you haven't a card or are unwilling to use it on the Turf would be too stupid to even contemplate.
There's something upwards of a million people in the UK who aren't able to get bank accounts. Add to that obviously you've got kids who generally don't have bank cards and you can see where an issue may arise.
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Re: Part cashless at the Turf

Post by MiltonKeynesClaret93 » Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:30 pm

Gordaleman wrote:
Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:03 pm
Hardly surprising that so many retailers refuse American Express. They charge retailers a lot more than Visa or Mastercard.
American Express charge merchants about 1-2% more than VISA/MasterCard, and I struggle to find places that don't accept them anymore.

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Re: Part cashless at the Turf

Post by taio » Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:31 pm

evensteadiereddie wrote:
Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:26 pm
Too damn lazy to get a bank card ? :lol:
https://www.ageuk.org.uk/latest-press/a ... -spending/

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Re: Part cashless at the Turf

Post by Jimmymaccer » Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:34 pm

Marple Claret wrote:
Mon Aug 02, 2021 7:13 pm
No rationale whatsoever has been given for this
Have rumbelows persuaded you to rent a decca colour portable telly yet with one of those circular coat hanger aerial things at the back?

They’re the future…

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Re: Part cashless at the Turf

Post by evensteadiereddie » Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:35 pm

The sandwich shop on the corner opposite the Park View has a wide range of decent food and drink at great prices. Use that.

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Re: Part cashless at the Turf

Post by tim_noone » Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:35 pm

evensteadiereddie wrote:
Mon Aug 02, 2021 7:56 pm
Nonsense - tired old blokes can't deal with/refuse to accept genuine progress more like....
Dont be ageist Eddie your no Spring chicken :D

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Re: Part cashless at the Turf

Post by Devils_Advocate » Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:40 pm

I could understand peoples frustration when the club didnt provide contactless payments at all but I dont get the need to become completely cashless.

I never use cash nowadays but Id hope that in most small transaction situations there could be an option for both and Im certainly not going to start belittling those who still prefer or even need to use cash
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Re: Part cashless at the Turf

Post by ŽižkovClaret » Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:42 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:40 pm
I could understand peoples frustration when the club didnt provide contactless payments at all but I dont get the need to become completely cashless.

I never use cash nowadays but Id hope that in most small transaction situations there could be an option for both and Im certainly not going to start belittling those who still prefer or even need to use cash
Not very befitting of your username here ;)

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Re: Part cashless at the Turf

Post by Devils_Advocate » Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:44 pm

ŽižkovClaret wrote:
Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:42 pm
Not very befitting of your username here ;)
Ive posted enough nonsence tonight so gotta keep the ratio respectable :D
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Re: Part cashless at the Turf

Post by evensteadiereddie » Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:47 pm

I'm not, tim, you're right but, chuffing hell, if somebody can't be arsed to use their card on a matchday then they'll have to do without. Nothing to do with age - that Age UK article hardly presents a convincing argument, does it ?
As it states, we all use cash at some time and will continue to do so but just not at the Turf. You'll just have to be flexible/use commonsense. The club have given plenty of notice but if it's too much of a trial to use a card then join those who won't be going on the Turf because of some perceived Season Ticket fiasco or those who cannot bear to see the lads take the knee. Looks like there's going to be plenty of room for normal folk .......

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Re: Part cashless at the Turf

Post by tim_noone » Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:55 pm

Normal Folk.... :lol: :lol:
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Re: Part cashless at the Turf

Post by Funkydrummer » Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:59 pm

MT03ALG wrote:
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I'll get my flask ready unless flasks are banned.....
They're positively encouraged in the Bob Lord stand. :D
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Re: Part cashless at the Turf

Post by JohnDearyMe » Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:07 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:17 pm
Should help speed up the half time beer queue!
Two budweiser's and a miller lite!

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Re: Part cashless at the Turf

Post by AlargeClaret » Mon Aug 02, 2021 11:14 pm

Marple claret appears to have gone to sleep in 1975 and only just woken… we’re all decimal now , Bob Lord has passed ,oh and the Queen is no longer Empress of all India !

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Re: Part cashless at the Turf

Post by Rileybobs » Mon Aug 02, 2021 11:16 pm

AlargeClaret wrote:
Mon Aug 02, 2021 11:14 pm
Marple claret appears to have gone to sleep in 1975 and only just woken… we’re all decimal now , Bob Lord has passed ,oh and the Queen is no longer Empress of all India !
Don’t forget that we still haven’t signed that pacy winger.

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Re: Part cashless at the Turf

Post by AlargeClaret » Tue Aug 03, 2021 7:32 am

Hope springs eternal …

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Re: Part cashless at the Turf

Post by colner » Tue Aug 03, 2021 7:42 am

personally think this is a bad move and cash should be an option. Knowing BFC,the system will crash at 14.30 on the day of the Brighton match and Mr Pace will be taking home 10000 pies

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Re: Part cashless at the Turf

Post by bennitor » Tue Aug 03, 2021 8:11 am

I use my card or phone to pay for 99% of transactions these days but the option to pay with cash should absolutely remain.

It is nothing to do with living in the past, it is about maintaining a system with genuine choice that isn't managed by large financial institutions. Bankers are one of the least trusted professions yet we are collectively so desperate to allow them to control how we pay for things.

Removing cash disenfranchises certain groups such as the young (cash tips in hospitality for example) to those without bank accounts or to charities that rely on cash donations.

There was a point above stating that if you don't like cashless then just use somewhere else that accepts cash. The issue is those places are reducing so you soon won't have that choice. The pandemic is being used to push the banks' agenda through in the name of hygiene but that's not what it's really about for them.

As soon as you lose cash you lose control over your money and it just becomes a piece of digital information that is vulnerable to future foreign government sponsored cyber attacks, IT crashes, the whims of your own government and many other factors.

Progress is fine, but not when it puts genuine financial freedom at risk.
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Re: Part cashless at the Turf

Post by superdimitri » Tue Aug 03, 2021 9:21 am

If you want to set a budget just buy yourself a top up card.
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Re: Part cashless at the Turf

Post by SouthLondonexile » Tue Aug 03, 2021 9:47 am

ŽižkovClaret wrote:
Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:02 pm
Given we have just had a pandemic that is spread by contact, anyone sensible has to welcome schemes such as this that would reduce the amount of physical contact. Nice contactless transactions, no faffing around. Lovely job
Up to point. The problem I foresee is when individuals ask for a receipt the whole thing will collapse.

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Re: Part cashless at the Turf

Post by Dark Cloud » Tue Aug 03, 2021 1:52 pm

I took the option to carry on paying for my half time Bene 'n 'ot all the way through lockdown and I'm expecting 45 of them to lined up waiting for me at the Brighton game. (Hope it ain't warm weather! :o )

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Re: Part cashless at the Turf

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Tue Aug 03, 2021 2:28 pm

https://www.burnleyfootballclub.com/con ... pply-issue


:D hopefully doesn't happen on a match day

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Re: Part cashless at the Turf

Post by Local cricketer » Tue Aug 03, 2021 2:29 pm

Now they are telling you to take cash if you are going the club shop. Power shortage or something

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Re: Part cashless at the Turf

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Aug 03, 2021 2:30 pm

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Tue Aug 03, 2021 2:28 pm
https://www.burnleyfootballclub.com/con ... pply-issue


:D hopefully doesn't happen on a match day
This seems to happen quite regularly

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Re: Part cashless at the Turf

Post by ŽižkovClaret » Tue Aug 03, 2021 2:45 pm

There probably are people in crap financial state who don't have a card. Thing is though, they probably aren't going to be on the Turf are they if they are that skint?

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Re: Part cashless at the Turf

Post by SGr » Tue Aug 03, 2021 2:49 pm

Yeah the only problem I have with cashless is that as we are seeing, one badly timed power failure and you’re screwed.

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Re: Part cashless at the Turf

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Tue Aug 03, 2021 2:57 pm

SGr wrote:
Tue Aug 03, 2021 2:49 pm
Yeah the only problem I have with cashless is that as we are seeing, one badly timed power failure and you’re screwed.
Or it might be a free bar :D

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Re: Part cashless at the Turf

Post by wilks_bfc » Tue Aug 03, 2021 3:02 pm

Local cricketer wrote:
Tue Aug 03, 2021 2:29 pm
Now they are telling you to take cash if you are going the club shop. Power shortage or something
They said in yesterdays announcement that the ticket office & club shop would still be taking cash payments

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Re: Part cashless at the Turf

Post by claretandy » Tue Aug 03, 2021 3:19 pm

Local cricketer wrote:
Tue Aug 03, 2021 2:29 pm
Now they are telling you to take cash if you are going the club shop. Power shortage or something
Yep, just been down, you couldn't make it up.

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Re: Part cashless at the Turf

Post by Marple Claret » Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:17 pm

A perfect, if unwitting, demonstration of why this is a very stupid idea.

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Re: Part cashless at the Turf

Post by ten bellies » Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:20 pm

I'll spend my cash before and after the match.

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Re: Part cashless at the Turf

Post by evensteadiereddie » Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:54 pm

If the power wasn't working on matchday, there'd be no er, match.

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Re: Part cashless at the Turf

Post by ClaretTony » Wed Aug 04, 2021 1:55 pm

SGr wrote:
Tue Aug 03, 2021 2:49 pm
Yeah the only problem I have with cashless is that as we are seeing, one badly timed power failure and you’re screwed.
A friend of mine was in Asda one day when they had a power failure. They had to switch quickly to cash but couldn’t scan any of the items at the checkout so we’re asking people to estimate.

I can confirm he didn’t purchase a Twix.

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Re: Part cashless at the Turf

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Wed Aug 04, 2021 1:56 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Wed Aug 04, 2021 1:55 pm
A friend of mine was in Asda one day when they had a power failure. They had to switch quickly to cash but couldn’t scan any of the items at the checkout so we’re asking people to estimate.

I can confirm he didn’t purchase a Twix.

These 12 bottles of red and 6 bottles of bourbon probably comes to £20 :D

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