Pakistan v England 1st Test

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Re: Pakistan v England 1st Test

Post by tiger76 » Sun Dec 04, 2022 10:36 am

20-1 and the short ball tactic pays early dividends for England.

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Re: Pakistan v England 1st Test

Post by footballdiedin92 » Sun Dec 04, 2022 10:36 am

1 down
9 to go

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Re: Pakistan v England 1st Test

Post by footballdiedin92 » Sun Dec 04, 2022 10:47 am

Barbara Zam in already. Azhar ali retired hurt

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Re: Pakistan v England 1st Test

Post by footballdiedin92 » Sun Dec 04, 2022 10:49 am

Bloody hell, Barbara's gone aswell now.
This is some start

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Re: Pakistan v England 1st Test

Post by tiger76 » Sun Dec 04, 2022 10:50 am

Stokes gets the key wicket of Babar, England well on top suddenly.

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Re: Pakistan v England 1st Test

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Sun Dec 04, 2022 11:45 am

Doesn’t seem long ago when we’d have to be about 500 in front with a day left before we’d declare under Root.

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Re: Pakistan v England 1st Test

Post by tiger76 » Sun Dec 04, 2022 11:56 am

80-2 at close a good recovery from Pakistan after losing those early wickets should be an intriguing final day.

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Re: Pakistan v England 1st Test

Post by tiger76 » Sun Dec 04, 2022 11:59 am

Bordeauxclaret wrote:
Sun Dec 04, 2022 11:45 am
Doesn’t seem long ago when we’d have to be about 500 in front with a day left before we’d declare under Root.
Yep England under Stokes are a different animal.

Of course if England go on to lose this match his decision will be questioned.

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Re: Pakistan v England 1st Test

Post by LeadBelly » Sun Dec 04, 2022 12:55 pm

Yes it was an adventurous declaration, I thought they'd try and get another quick 20-30 at least.
They'll get some stick if Pakistan win but I presume they have some confidence that the wicket will become more difficult for batting than hitherto. Makes it very interesting whichever way it goes.

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Re: Pakistan v England 1st Test

Post by claret wizard » Sun Dec 04, 2022 1:35 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Sun Dec 04, 2022 11:59 am
Yep England under Stokes are a different animal.

Of course if England go on to lose this match his decision will be questioned.
If we do lose I hope it isn’t and instead the focus is on our new desire to win, rather than not lose, test matches. Test cricket as a format needs this as an attitude if it’s going to survive in the world of franchise cricket. Great to see bowlers being allowed to attack today. They usually are there to just serve up treats for the batters. Looking forward to tomorrows play.

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Re: Pakistan v England 1st Test

Post by tiger76 » Sun Dec 04, 2022 3:19 pm

claret wizard wrote:
Sun Dec 04, 2022 1:35 pm
If we do lose I hope it isn’t and instead the focus is on our new desire to win, rather than not lose, test matches. Test cricket as a format needs this as an attitude if it’s going to survive in the world of franchise cricket. Great to see bowlers being allowed to attack today. They usually are there to just serve up treats for the batters. Looking forward to tomorrows play.
I like this positive intent from England, and if Pakistan chase down the runs fair play to them, beats just playing out a tedious draw om the 4th and 5th days, although I've no doubt Boycott wouldn't approve.

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Re: Pakistan v England 1st Test

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Mon Dec 05, 2022 8:07 am

Much prefer this approach to cricket, reminds me very of the way Shane Warne approached the game.

Nothing wrong with suffering the occasional loss trying to win a game rather than seeing out a tame draw

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Re: Pakistan v England 1st Test

Post by tiger76 » Mon Dec 05, 2022 8:58 am

Going to be a thrilling end to the game, Pakistan need another 126, England need 5 wickets, tie isn't even out of the question.

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Re: Pakistan v England 1st Test

Post by Colburn_Claret » Mon Dec 05, 2022 9:51 am

Ball tracking can be added to VAR if that was missing the wickets, what a bloody joke.
It's no wonder it took so long to show it, it had to be doctored first.

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Re: Pakistan v England 1st Test

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Mon Dec 05, 2022 9:58 am

There was a very bizarre ball tracking incident in the recent one dayers against Australia. Very suspect.

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Re: Pakistan v England 1st Test

Post by tiger76 » Mon Dec 05, 2022 9:58 am

257-5 at tea, England striving for a breakthrough but the small margins not falling their way.

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Re: Pakistan v England 1st Test

Post by IanMcL » Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:17 am

Looks like a Pakistan win on the way or draw, if they lose wickets.

(That should give England a chance😁)

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Re: Pakistan v England 1st Test

Post by LeadBelly » Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:26 am

The big factor re outcome is likely number of overs. Theoretically it's something approaching 40 but the light will give out well before that. Somebody at tea saying c 22 is the estimate. 4 per over from Pakistan would be tough if they lost another wicket soon. New ball due soon as well is a factor.
A really interesting 90 minutes coming up.

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Re: Pakistan v England 1st Test

Post by alwaysaclaret » Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:34 am

Suddenly swung in our favour again, but could still go either way, c'mon England.

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Re: Pakistan v England 1st Test

Post by tiger76 » Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:36 am

Will Pakistan now shut up shop having lost their 6th wicket, for me they should carry on chasing the runs and keep England under pressure.

Be ironic if Pakistan needed only a few and they went off for bad light wouldn't it.

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Re: Pakistan v England 1st Test

Post by tiger76 » Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:39 am

7 down now, draw might suddenly be favourite, Pakistan win looks unlikely now, but England will sniff a win from here.

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Re: Pakistan v England 1st Test

Post by Ashingtonclaret46 » Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:39 am

Smashing test match this has turned out to be. Ollie Robinson turning things back our way and was unlucky with one that hit the stumps at speed and the bails did not move! Talk about luck.

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Re: Pakistan v England 1st Test

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:40 am

Should be in the bag now hopefully with this tail.

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Re: Pakistan v England 1st Test

Post by Hapag Lloyd » Mon Dec 05, 2022 11:00 am

Great catch by Pope off Anderson 264/8

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Re: Pakistan v England 1st Test

Post by Hapag Lloyd » Mon Dec 05, 2022 11:03 am

Anderson with another 264/9

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Re: Pakistan v England 1st Test

Post by Ashingtonclaret46 » Mon Dec 05, 2022 11:05 am

Jimmy with 4 for 36 off 21.4 overs ----- not bad for an oldie! He just keeps giving ----what a competitor.

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Re: Pakistan v England 1st Test

Post by Culmclaret » Mon Dec 05, 2022 11:09 am

And in the joint highest scoring five day test match of all time

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Re: Pakistan v England 1st Test

Post by Culmclaret » Mon Dec 05, 2022 11:15 am

Now the highest scoring five day test!

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Re: Pakistan v England 1st Test

Post by Hapag Lloyd » Mon Dec 05, 2022 11:38 am

Leach gets him lbw, what a superb test match this has been.

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Re: Pakistan v England 1st Test

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Mon Dec 05, 2022 11:39 am

Brilliant effort on that wicket

Always good to see bravery rewarded

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Re: Pakistan v England 1st Test

Post by Ashingtonclaret46 » Mon Dec 05, 2022 11:42 am

Cracking game. 1768 runs scored, 37 wickets taken and 388.5 overs bowled and on a pitch that, on the first day, we never thought was going to give any result except a draw.
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Re: Pakistan v England 1st Test

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Mon Dec 05, 2022 11:42 am

Boring dying Test Match cricket at it again.

Amazing effort to get 20 wickets on a pitch like that.

Not many would have been brave enough to do what McCullum and Stokes did there.

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Re: Pakistan v England 1st Test

Post by RVclaret » Mon Dec 05, 2022 11:43 am

Incredible win and game.

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Re: Pakistan v England 1st Test

Post by tiger76 » Mon Dec 05, 2022 11:43 am

Genius declaration by Stokes who timed it to absolute perfection.

Credit to Anderson and Robinson for still running in hard on day 5 on a bland track.

The long tail costing Pakistan dearly in the end.

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Re: Pakistan v England 1st Test

Post by Mondsley » Mon Dec 05, 2022 11:45 am

Brilliant from England and Stokes. He has totally manufactured that result with a declaration that I thought was way too generous. Hats off also to Jimmy and Ollie Robinson for some phenomenal bowling with the old ball.

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Re: Pakistan v England 1st Test

Post by CleggHall » Mon Dec 05, 2022 12:21 pm

Agreed a very generous declaration but Pakistan batsmen should have won this for them on that track. Just shows what last-day pressure can do, Stokes has the Midas touch.

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Re: Pakistan v England 1st Test

Post by Colburn_Claret » Mon Dec 05, 2022 12:25 pm

To get a result on that wicket was amazing, but Stokes deserves the plaudits, refusing to play for a draw and setting a field to make this test match as exciting as any one dayer.
I hope he continues to play this way, some we'll win, some we'll lose, but it will always be worth watching

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Re: Pakistan v England 1st Test

Post by LeadBelly » Mon Dec 05, 2022 12:33 pm

From a Pakistan point of view.... imagine scoring 847 runs over your two innings and still losing - bit of a sickener.

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Re: Pakistan v England 1st Test

Post by MrTopTier » Mon Dec 05, 2022 12:36 pm

Great win, looking forward to catching the highlights.

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Re: Pakistan v England 1st Test

Post by IanMcL » Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:38 pm

IanMcL wrote:
Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:17 am
Looks like a Pakistan win on the way or draw, if they lose wickets.

(That should give England a chance😁)
I take full credit.

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Re: Pakistan v England 1st Test

Post by LeadBelly » Thu Dec 08, 2022 8:55 pm

Second test starting tomorrow in Multan. There's a report from that city in the Telegraph today which contains some fairly alarming/interesting info:

"The atmosphere hangs heavy with pollutants and contributes to the haze and fog that will interrupt play. The air quality is deemed 'unhealthy' and was 18.5 times higher on Thursday than the World Health Organisation's guideline value."

"But this is an area off the tourist trail despite the history and beautiful mausoleums. Westerners are restricted to a handful of hotels that are allowed to accept foreigners and all are high walled with armed guards and watchtowers.
An armed police escort is required to leave the hotel, which shocked two supporters who were about to pop off into town to buy their match tickets – priced at 55-95 pence each per day for the VIP or premium enclosures."


"The Elite Punjab Police Commandos, with their black t-shirts emblazoned on the back with “No Fear”, glock pistols and M4s at the ready, clear the traffic for media convoys and supporter buses with sirens wailing, shouting at errant rickshaw drivers that get in the way."

"Around 7,000 police officers are on duty and the security bill for this series is expected to cost the Pakistan Cricket Board $2 million. Bulletproof buses and a helicopter chaperone have been provided for the journeys between the ground and stadium."

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