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Re: Tactics for Saturday

Post by tiger76 » Tue Dec 06, 2022 6:58 pm

Hope Mbappe steps on a cricket ball ahead of KO, worked against McGrath in 2005. :)

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Re: Tactics for Saturday

Post by 4midable » Tue Dec 06, 2022 6:59 pm

Mbappe hasnt trained today

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Re: Tactics for Saturday

Post by dougcollins » Tue Dec 06, 2022 7:03 pm

4midable wrote:
Tue Dec 06, 2022 6:59 pm
Mbappe hasnt trained today
Doesn't need to from what I've seen.
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Re: Tactics for Saturday

Post by Selby Claret » Tue Dec 06, 2022 7:47 pm

4midable wrote:
Tue Dec 06, 2022 6:59 pm
Mbappe hasnt trained today
Has someone been round his house?

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Re: Tactics for Saturday

Post by Tribesmen » Wed Dec 07, 2022 11:33 am

Well the bad news is that all the Senegal flags have been taken down here in Ireland .
Good news French flags are everywhere ........
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Re: Tactics for Saturday

Post by Chobulous » Wed Dec 07, 2022 11:55 am

Tribesmen wrote:
Wed Dec 07, 2022 11:33 am
Well the bad news is that all the Senegal flags have been taken down here in Ireland .
Good news French flags are everywhere ........
It’s a terribly sad existence when your only joy in life comes from schadenfreude. It must be a celtic thing. No wonder the national colour is green.
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Re: Tactics for Saturday

Post by Tribesmen » Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:00 pm

Chobulous wrote:
Wed Dec 07, 2022 11:55 am
It’s a terribly sad existence when your only joy in life comes from schadenfreude. It must be a celtic thing. No wonder the national colour is green.
Anybody and i mean anybody but England :lol:
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Re: Tactics for Saturday

Post by summitclaret » Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:39 pm

Tribesmen wrote:
Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:00 pm
Anybody and i mean anybody but England :lol:
Russia, Belarus, N Korea, Serbia etc?

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Re: Tactics for Saturday

Post by Chobulous » Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:44 pm

Tribesmen wrote:
Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:00 pm
Anybody and i mean anybody but England :lol:
I get that. The thing is, with England there is always the possibility of it happening. It has before and maybe someday it will happen again, or maybe not. No one with any grasp on reality would ever envisage the same for any of the ‘perpetually in the shadows” Celtic nations. So carry on celebrating when superior nations lose if it makes you happy for a short while.
:lol:

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Re: Tactics for Saturday

Post by dsr » Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:45 pm

Chobulous wrote:
Wed Dec 07, 2022 11:55 am
It’s a terribly sad existence when your only joy in life comes from schadenfreude. It must be a celtic thing. No wonder the national colour is green.
To be fair, we always laugh at Scotland's performances in the World Cup Finals.

Well, the post-war baby boomers do. And the rest of us would if we got the chance! ;)

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Re: Tactics for Saturday

Post by fatboy47 » Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:46 pm

Tribesmen wrote:
Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:00 pm
Anybody and i mean anybody but England :lol:
Laughing emoji, but far more sad than funny.
Racism stinks whatever stone it emerges from.

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Re: Tactics for Saturday

Post by bfcmik » Wed Dec 07, 2022 4:57 pm

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Re: Tactics for Saturday

Post by Rileybobs » Wed Dec 07, 2022 5:08 pm

bfcmik wrote:
Wed Dec 07, 2022 4:57 pm
England tactics.jpg
Kane is a bit advanced.

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Re: Tactics for Saturday

Post by TheFamilyCat » Wed Dec 07, 2022 5:54 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Wed Dec 07, 2022 5:08 pm
Kane is a bit advanced.
That's the set up when we get a corner.
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Re: Tactics for Saturday

Post by Newchurch Claret » Wed Dec 07, 2022 6:10 pm

Couldn’t care less.

Football returns on Sunday.

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Re: Tactics for Saturday

Post by Zlatan » Wed Dec 07, 2022 6:13 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Wed Dec 07, 2022 5:08 pm
Kane is a bit advanced.
he doesn't come across that way at all
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Re: Tactics for Saturday

Post by Woodleyclaret » Wed Dec 07, 2022 6:37 pm

The big game is Sunday at QPR
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Re: Tactics for Saturday

Post by Tribesmen » Wed Dec 07, 2022 7:00 pm

fatboy47 wrote:
Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:46 pm
Laughing emoji, but far more sad than funny.
Racism stinks whatever stone it emerges from.
Ohh come on really Racism go away with that one .

Think about how many Irish or Scots have you ever heard they want England to win the World Cup ?

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Re: Tactics for Saturday

Post by roperclaret » Wed Dec 07, 2022 7:16 pm

fatboy47 wrote:
Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:46 pm
Laughing emoji, but far more sad than funny.
Racism stinks whatever stone it emerges from.
You should read up on the historic persecution of the Irish by the English.
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Re: Tactics for Saturday

Post by fatboy47 » Wed Dec 07, 2022 8:41 pm

Tribesmen wrote:
Wed Dec 07, 2022 7:00 pm
Ohh come on really Racism go away with that one .

Think about how many Irish or Scots have you ever heard they want England to win the World Cup ?

Hmmmmm.... I'm good with people enjoying England's inevitable failure on the grounds that they're an over_hyped, entitled, boring passionless pile of overrated dogsh1t.
But not dislike of anyone purely on the grounds of race..its not on..you know it and I know it.

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Re: Tactics for Saturday

Post by AfloatinClaret » Wed Dec 07, 2022 11:00 pm

roperclaret wrote:
Wed Dec 07, 2022 7:16 pm
You should read up on the historic persecution of the Irish by the English.
That wasn't racist, if you read up a bit more history you'll see that we persecuted lots of other nationalities too Besides, the Pope (Adrian 4th, not Nick) granted England the right to govern Ireland, I'll concede that Adrian was the only English Pope there's ever been, but I'm sure that was purely coincidental to his decision.

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Re: Tactics for Saturday

Post by 2 Bee Holed » Wed Dec 07, 2022 11:19 pm

bfcmik wrote:
Wed Dec 07, 2022 4:57 pm
England tactics.jpg
I think you are right bfcmik. My son and I were discussing this very issue last night.

I think in the end though, I persuaded him that for a more balanced team the No 5 needs to be moved out more towards the left wing.

I'm not saying all the way out left, just more left. We can't be overly cautious.

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Re: Tactics for Saturday

Post by Bosscat » Wed Dec 07, 2022 11:41 pm

Tribesmen wrote:
Wed Dec 07, 2022 7:00 pm
Ohh come on really Racism go away with that one .

Think about how many Irish or Scots have you ever heard they want England to win the World Cup ?
TBF I have always wanted Ireland to do well at Tournaments (but not at the detriment to England) as I have many Irish Friends & we always have a bit of banter over games (but wish each other well). But no why would they want us to win a World Cup....

The Scots/Welsh have always been anyone but England (& more so than the Irish as I have found)

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Re: Tactics for Saturday

Post by Vegas Claret » Wed Dec 07, 2022 11:51 pm

Giroud plays such an important role for France, equally as important to stop him holding the ball up for Mbappe and Dembele. Whoever our fastest winger is I would play on Mbappes side to try and make him defend

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Re: Tactics for Saturday

Post by Taffy on the wing » Thu Dec 08, 2022 2:40 am

AfloatinClaret wrote:
Wed Dec 07, 2022 11:00 pm
That wasn't racist, if you read up a bit more history you'll see that we persecuted lots of other nationalities too Besides, the Pope (Adrian 4th, not Nick) granted England the right to govern Ireland, I'll concede that Adrian was the only English Pope there's ever been, but I'm sure that was purely coincidental to his decision.
Didn't realize we'd had one......

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Re: Tactics for Saturday

Post by arise_sir_charge » Thu Dec 08, 2022 7:33 am

Lovely to see a few folk coming on a thread to tell us they don’t care👍

The danger is that everyone is making it all about one man. France have plenty of other players but equally France will be concerned about the number of stars we have at our disposal.

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Re: Tactics for Saturday

Post by RVclaret » Thu Dec 08, 2022 7:41 am

France should be more worried about how to deal with Bellingham, Foden, Saka and Kane, than we are about Mbappe, who Walker has dealt with very well every time he’s played him.

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Re: Tactics for Saturday

Post by Spijed » Thu Dec 08, 2022 7:51 am

RVclaret wrote:
Thu Dec 08, 2022 7:41 am
France should be more worried about how to deal with Bellingham, Foden, Saka and Kane, than we are about Mbappe, who Walker has dealt with very well every time he’s played him.
You seem to assume that England should deal with Mbappe very easily if Walker is playing and there is little else to worry about.

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Re: Tactics for Saturday

Post by RVclaret » Thu Dec 08, 2022 8:10 am

Spijed wrote:
Thu Dec 08, 2022 7:51 am
You seem to assume that England should deal with Mbappe very easily if Walker is playing and there is little else to worry about.
I don’t necessarily think that’s the case. He’s clearly an outstanding player but I’m just stating Walker has kept him quiet on several occasions in the Champions League. France obviously have other top players but there is a lot of Mbappe hype and worry, when I believe we have even better attacking talents than them (overall) on the pitch with the names I stated.

Kane > Giroud
Foden > Dembele
Bellingham > Griezmann

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Re: Tactics for Saturday

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Thu Dec 08, 2022 8:12 am

Hopefully I am wrong but I can see Southgate reverting to 5 at the back

Pickford
Trippier Walker Maguire Stones Shaw
Rice Henderson
Saka Kane Foden

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Re: Tactics for Saturday

Post by RVclaret » Thu Dec 08, 2022 8:18 am

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Thu Dec 08, 2022 8:12 am
Hopefully I am wrong but I can see Southgate reverting to 5 at the back

Pickford
Trippier Walker Maguire Stones Shaw
Rice Henderson
Saka Kane Foden
Think I read out of x amount of games against the 'big nations' like France, he has played a back 5 on 64% of occasions.

You might be right but I just can't see how he can drop Bellingham after his displays so far - that would surely be criminal.

France play with a back 4 too, so it's not like playing a 5 matches them, like he did when he switched to a 5 against Germany in the Euros.

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Re: Tactics for Saturday

Post by Hapag Lloyd » Thu Dec 08, 2022 8:22 am

Tribesmen wrote:
Wed Dec 07, 2022 7:00 pm
Ohh come on really Racism go away with that one .

Think about how many Irish or Scots have you ever heard they want England to win the World Cup ?
Of course it’s racism, if I’d have posted on here during the cricket World Cup that I wanted “anyone but Pakistan” to win the usual suspects would have been all over it.

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Re: Tactics for Saturday

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Thu Dec 08, 2022 8:34 am

RVclaret wrote:
Thu Dec 08, 2022 8:18 am
Think I read out of x amount of games against the 'big nations' like France, he has played a back 5 on 64% of occasions.

You might be right but I just can't see how he can drop Bellingham after his displays so far - that would surely be criminal.

France play with a back 4 too, so it's not like playing a 5 matches them, like he did when he switched to a 5 against Germany in the Euros.
Fully agree but Gareth has form. There probably isn't another manager at the tournament who given our squad would start games with Foden on the bench. I think he will like the idea of Trippier up against Mbappe with the safety next of Walker inside Trips.

Hopefully I am wrong and his words about attacking them aren't hollow ones.

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Re: Tactics for Saturday

Post by evensteadiereddie » Thu Dec 08, 2022 8:35 am

If your post had been made purely because you don't like Pakistanis, HL, yes they would.
If you'd posted it for cricketing reasons, no they wouldn't.

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Re: Tactics for Saturday

Post by tiger76 » Thu Dec 08, 2022 10:13 am

Vegas Claret wrote:
Wed Dec 07, 2022 11:51 pm
Giroud plays such an important role for France, equally as important to stop him holding the ball up for Mbappe and Dembele. Whoever our fastest winger is I would play on Mbappes side to try and make him defend
You make a great point regarding Mbappe for all his talent he rarely likes getting back and defending, so that's an area where England might get some success if Gareth is brave enough to employ offensive tactics.

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Re: Tactics for Saturday

Post by Vegas Claret » Thu Dec 08, 2022 12:01 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Thu Dec 08, 2022 10:13 am
You make a great point regarding Mbappe for all his talent he rarely likes getting back and defending, so that's an area where England might get some success if Gareth is brave enough to employ offensive tactics.
that's always been my issue with Southgate, lack of bravery in the big games. I hope he's learned from our defeat to Croatia and Italy, fingers crossed

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