ARTICLE: Clubs should hang their heads in shame over derby tickets

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Re: ARTICLE: Clubs should hang their heads in shame over derby tickets

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Mar 28, 2023 9:33 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:
Tue Mar 28, 2023 9:32 pm
Brighton away on Boxing Day is quite possibly my worst ever away day. Stuck on the hard shoulder, broken down in a bus full of blokes farting out their Christmas day beer and sprouts. The game managed to top this in the worst part of the day competition.
Nogan scored a couple that day I think

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Post by martin_p » Tue Mar 28, 2023 9:35 pm

fidelcastro wrote:
Tue Mar 28, 2023 9:25 pm
And the Stafford game only counts if you remember Stan Collymore scoring an own goal and 'participated' in the fence collapsing at the front of the terrace! :D
Pah, I’d consider Stafford away as one of the glamour games in that period. Losing to Stockport away in the Leyland Faf Trophy in vertical rain on a Tuesday night, that’s the test.

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Post by 1968claret » Tue Mar 28, 2023 9:37 pm

fatboy47 wrote:
Tue Mar 28, 2023 6:35 pm
I'd have allocated them on alphabetical order.

Fairest way.
Let me guess. Your real name is Aaron Aardvaark? 😄

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Re: ARTICLE: Clubs should hang their heads in shame over derby tickets

Post by fidelcastro » Tue Mar 28, 2023 9:37 pm

martin_p wrote:
Tue Mar 28, 2023 9:35 pm
Pah, I’d consider Stafford away as one of the glamour games in that period. Losing to Stockport away in the Leyland Faf Trophy in vertical rain on a Tuesday night, that’s the test.
Was that the same season we won the fourth division? 🤔

If so, I was there for that too!

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Post by ashtonlongsider » Tue Mar 28, 2023 9:39 pm

I'm not so sure Burnley are culpable in any way here. Rovers are the home side and within the rules can do what they think fit to gain a possible advantage. It used to really grate me when we gave the likes of Leeds the full CFS. Talk about 'shooting ourselves in the foot'. I'm glad that over time we've addressed this problem. We can't have it all ways. If Rover's want to be petty, so be it, it cuts both ways.

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Post by martin_p » Tue Mar 28, 2023 9:43 pm

fidelcastro wrote:
Tue Mar 28, 2023 9:37 pm
Was that the same season we won the fourth division? 🤔

If so, I was there for that too!
Think it was before that but we used to play Stockport so often they all merge in the memory a bit.
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Post by 4midable » Tue Mar 28, 2023 9:57 pm

End of the day if you've got the points, lost the ballot - its tough ****. Move on

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Post by CrosspoolClarets » Tue Mar 28, 2023 10:05 pm

I think they have done it fairly.

There were 2 other options, raising the threshold or having a free for all at 10am.

The latter affects those who for very good reasons could not log on at 10am sharp, such as a meeting.

The former would end up prioritising those who were STH (I am guessing here) 10-20 years ago. I’m not sure that should be relevant. Not least because many wanting to go were not born then. It would thus be discriminatory.

So 6,000 points and a ballot is about right. The best of several bad options, caused by that lot of jealous fools down the road.

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Post by Bordeauxclaret » Tue Mar 28, 2023 10:08 pm

Blue Skies wrote:
Tue Mar 28, 2023 9:27 pm
Lincoln away 1 0 Fletcher. I travelled with CT that night. Stafford away doesn't count unless you were crushed by the collapsing wall. Newcastle away in the league 1974 is the true test. Arranged on Saturday night for following midweek, even Dave Burnley missed that.
I thought he’d been to them all?

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Post by Elizabeth » Tue Mar 28, 2023 10:13 pm

There is absolutely no need for Burnley FC to hang their head in shame. A headline that deserves ridicule and is in my opinion, shameful itself

It must be hard to take for those fans who have made every effort to go to away games over many years and won't be able to go to this one because it's so popular and only so many tickets were available.

That's not Burnley FC's fault so don't go pointing the finger in their direction and just accept it
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Post by Down_Rover » Tue Mar 28, 2023 10:17 pm

CrosspoolClarets wrote:
Tue Mar 28, 2023 10:05 pm
I think they have done it fairly.

There were 2 other options, raising the threshold or having a free for all at 10am.

The latter affects those who for very good reasons could not log on at 10am sharp, such as a meeting.

The former would end up prioritising those who were STH (I am guessing here) 10-20 years ago. I’m not sure that should be relevant. Not least because many wanting to go were not born then. It would thus be discriminatory.

So 6,000 points and a ballot is about right. The best of several bad options, caused by that lot of jealous fools down the road.
I agree. The bottom line is that there were more fans wanting to go than seats and the Club has to look after all its fans.

My suggestion above at restricting how many ballots a fan can win will mean we all get our fair share in the longer term

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Post by chipbutty » Tue Mar 28, 2023 10:21 pm

Conroy92 wrote:
Tue Mar 28, 2023 5:53 pm
The people that are suggesting the loyalty point number was upped from 6k to 10k or above are only bitter about not getting a ticket.
The people suggesting the loyalty points system needs scrapping completely are talking sense.
The loyalty points system has vast imperfections. The greatest bias being a 60 year old man watching 2 games a season can be valued the same as a 15 year old watching 8 games a season. It's nonsense. Yet no one's pointing this out because there happy with the unfairness when it favours them.
There will be amazing supporters of this club young and old who didn't get a ticket, but the club gave a chance to all ages on getting a ticket by allocating the points number at 6k. The club have remained consistent in using 6k as the mark for priority games. The club has acted at its best.
That only works if the 60 year old man attending 2 ganes a season has a season ticket

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Post by Luppy » Tue Mar 28, 2023 10:23 pm

I went in the ballot. I was unsuccessful. I’m disappointed

But - I think the club were stuck between a rock and a hard place here. Whatever they did they would get criticism.

If I was going - I wouldn’t spend a single penny in the ground. They don’t deserve a penny
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Post by Oldparkwood » Tue Mar 28, 2023 10:29 pm

I agree with everything that has been said by Tony.
That said if you don’t, let’s not let the pathetic spineless b@stards down the road split us or they have succeeded. UTC
FYI I wast successful either :-(

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Re: ARTICLE: Clubs should hang their heads in shame over derby tickets

Post by Squazo » Tue Mar 28, 2023 10:36 pm

claretsforever wrote:
Tue Mar 28, 2023 4:53 pm
I am in same boat Tony as u regarding poor allocation from Blackburn and burnley for the shambles regarding loyalty points not being increased. I been to 12 aways games this season and have tickets to next 3 away games Middlesbrough, reading ,Rotherham and have 10490 points and have had a email saying unsuccessful absolute joke
it’s a joke when i know one person only been to wigan away this season but get a ******* ticket

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Post by TravisBickle » Tue Mar 28, 2023 10:38 pm

Stanbill05 wrote:
Tue Mar 28, 2023 6:17 pm
I'm clearly cut from a different cloth. I'd want the 10 year old to go if I'd spent my life following Burnley. But then I'm not the one fully invested, so it's easy for me to say.
Couldn’t agree more. They’re the future.

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Post by AGENT_CLARET » Tue Mar 28, 2023 10:51 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:
Tue Mar 28, 2023 9:32 pm
Brighton away on Boxing Day is quite possibly my worst ever away day. Stuck on the hard shoulder, broken down in a bus full of blokes farting out their Christmas day beer and sprouts. The game managed to top this in the worst part of the day competition.
I flew down with the player's and club official's for that game, got ****** on free beer on the plane went to a big posh hotel for a pre match meal, fell over a display of glass or pottery and give my name has the Reserve Burnley keeper David Williams and they got the bill 😂
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Post by paulatky » Tue Mar 28, 2023 10:52 pm

Squazo wrote:
Tue Mar 28, 2023 10:36 pm
it’s a joke when i know one person only been to wigan away this season but get a ******* ticket
If they have 6,000 they would qualify for the ballot.

With identities being checked won’t get in without photo ID matching name on the ticket

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Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Tue Mar 28, 2023 10:53 pm

Why didn't the club make it a requirement that you had to attend certain away games to qualify for Rovers?

I'm sure I've seen that for cup games at Burnley and other clubs

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Post by AGENT_CLARET » Tue Mar 28, 2023 10:53 pm

paulatky wrote:
Tue Mar 28, 2023 10:52 pm
If they have 6,000 they would qualify for the ballot.

With identities being checked won’t get in without photo ID matching name on the ticket
Identity isn't being checked at Ewood park

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Re: ARTICLE: Clubs should hang their heads in shame over derby tickets

Post by Vince Fontaine » Tue Mar 28, 2023 10:54 pm

Down_Rover wrote:
Tue Mar 28, 2023 8:54 pm
Well he is going to Rotherham and hopefully Bristol but you have missed the point. You have 11000 points and I have 9000 but only because we are both older than him

To attract younger fans the line has to be drawn somewhere that gives all a chance to get in the ballot. Those of us with higher points will not miss out every time if there is a restriction on the number of ballots you can win
No I fully understand your point. Let me put it another way my son is 27 and my daughter 25, son has 11200+ point and daughter 11100+ points. Both missed out due to a ballot that did not take into account some who have spent thousands of pounds and thousands of hours going to matches at Leicester on a Tuesday when we took fewer than 300 as well as to three matches in Europe when we didn't take 2000 even though tickets were on general sale to all for Istanbul and Olympiacos. I hope your son gets to as many matches as he can and gets to 6/7/8000 + points. I also hope he never feels as let down by the club he obviously loves as much as we do tonight. Like I’ve said loyalty works both ways apart from Burnley Football Club.

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Post by TravisBickle » Tue Mar 28, 2023 10:55 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Tue Mar 28, 2023 8:51 pm
That 10 year old started supporting Burnley in the PL,

When I started attending games the Turf was less than half full, now we've got a bunch of PL cling on plastic fans. That is great for our attendances but nonsense if you think they deserve the same priority as someone like Tony.
Weren’t we champions of England when people like Tony started watching us?

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Post by Vince Fontaine » Tue Mar 28, 2023 11:00 pm

bobinho wrote:
Tue Mar 28, 2023 8:49 pm
That hasn't happened.
Yes it has. The club have rewarded the loyalty of some supporters with 6000 points and NOT some with 5000 more points. 5000 points works out at 10 season tickets and 150 cup and away matches.That loyalty has not been rewarded for some fans and the club do not care for 1 second.

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Post by martin_p » Tue Mar 28, 2023 11:01 pm

Vince Fontaine wrote:
Tue Mar 28, 2023 10:54 pm
No I fully understand your point. Let me put it another way my son is 27 and my daughter 25, son has 11200+ point and daughter 11100+ points. Both missed out due to a ballot that did not take into account some who have spent thousands of pounds and thousands of hours going to matches at Leicester on a Tuesday when we took fewer than 300 as well as to three matches in Europe when we didn't take 2000 even though tickets were on general sale to all for Istanbul and Olympiacos. I hope your son gets to as many matches as he can and gets to 6/7/8000 + points. I also hope he never feels as let down by the club he obviously loves as much as we do tonight. Like I’ve said loyalty works both ways apart from Burnley Football Club.

UTC
Some people don’t seem to get that spending 100s of pounds and taking a couple of days off work just isn’t an option for lots of people no matter how much they love the club. That doesn’t make them less deserving of a ticket for Ewood. In fact you could make a reasonable argument that the tickets for the cheapest away trip of the season should go to those who can’t afford to travel up and down the country and take time off work to support the club.

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Post by TravisBickle » Tue Mar 28, 2023 11:03 pm

Vince Fontaine wrote:
Tue Mar 28, 2023 10:54 pm
No I fully understand your point. Let me put it another way my son is 27 and my daughter 25, son has 11200+ point and daughter 11100+ points. Both missed out due to a ballot that did not take into account some who have spent thousands of pounds and thousands of hours going to matches at Leicester on a Tuesday when we took fewer than 300 as well as to three matches in Europe when we didn't take 2000 even though tickets were on general sale to all for Istanbul and Olympiacos. I hope your son gets to as many matches as he can and gets to 6/7/8000 + points. I also hope he never feels as let down by the club he obviously loves as much as we do tonight. Like I’ve said loyalty works both ways apart from Burnley Football Club.

UTC
So with a combined 30+ thousand points. Years of going home and away. You’re going to boycott spending any more money with the club because you were unsuccessful in a ballot between the clubs most loyal fans?

Loyal my ar5e

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Post by BFC12345678 » Tue Mar 28, 2023 11:04 pm

Vince Fontaine wrote:
Tue Mar 28, 2023 11:00 pm
Yes it has. The club have rewarded the loyalty of some supporters with 6000 points and NOT some with 5000 more points. 5000 points works out at 10 season tickets and 150 cup and away matches.That loyalty has not been rewarded for some fans and the club do not care for 1 second.

UTC
What do you want them to do? Go through every fans purchase history and see what games they’ve been to and those who’ve been to the furthest away away games get a ticket

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Post by TravisBickle » Tue Mar 28, 2023 11:08 pm

Vince Fontaine wrote:
Tue Mar 28, 2023 11:00 pm
Yes it has. The club have rewarded the loyalty of some supporters with 6000 points and NOT some with 5000 more points. 5000 points works out at 10 season tickets and 150 cup and away matches.That loyalty has not been rewarded for some fans and the club do not care for 1 second.

UTC
10 season tickets and 150 away / cup games. It’s hardly a fair weather fan is it.

I’d personally have the points system at a lower threshold if they base it on loyalty points. Not higher. More inclusive to more fans of all ages and ‘means’.

But as I said before. Rolling 2-4 year system. Perhaps with a 70% guaranteed to higher points and 30% on a ballot.

But why over complicate things. It’s a once in a blue moon that this is ever going to be a problem. It’s literally the first time it’s ever happened.

And probably won’t happen again. Even if we got to a major cup final we would have more tickets than season ticket holders.

We didn’t even sell out home and away for Europe.

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Post by TravisBickle » Tue Mar 28, 2023 11:10 pm

To reiterate an earlier point. Blackburn fans and the club have got the reaction they wanted and more. They’ll be ******* themselves at the infighting and bickering.

Let’s just hope our players give it the reaction we want.

At the end of the day we will be promoted by then. And title won. It will be an absolute nothing game. With fans treat like **** inside and out.

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Post by NewClaret » Tue Mar 28, 2023 11:11 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Tue Mar 28, 2023 5:05 pm
My mum to blame Roy. My dad couldn't go and there was no way she was allowing it. I'd been to Old Trafford on the previous Saturday for the cup tie.
Quite right too, Tony. Rovers away without your Dad on a school night, no chance ;)

Emotive subject and not a debate we should be having, given a fair allocation, but anyone who has 13k points and has been to every away since the 2000’s has every right to feel aggrieved at missing out, imo. Hope you land on one somehow.

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Post by quoonbeatz » Tue Mar 28, 2023 11:11 pm

Current season ticket holders, then general sale.

The fairest, most inclusive system there is, that still rewards commitment.
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Post by Billyblah » Tue Mar 28, 2023 11:14 pm

If, as the article states, five thousand supporters have accrued over six thousand points then there are clearly going to be people who come out of it disappointed.
Much.less hassle watching the game on television.

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Post by Vince Fontaine » Tue Mar 28, 2023 11:17 pm

TravisBickle wrote:
Tue Mar 28, 2023 11:03 pm
So with a combined 30+ thousand points. Years of going home and away. You’re going to boycott spending any more money with the club because you were unsuccessful in a ballot between the clubs most loyal fans?

Loyal my ar5e
Exactly what the club have done. It’s my money if I choose not to spend it at the club that’s up to me. The ballot wasn’t for the most Loyal fans. You could amass 6000 points in the last10 seasons( including this one).

I think 11000+ for a 25 and a 27 year old proves loyalty.

We’ll get our season tickets and any away matches we are deemed loyal enough to be allowed to attend and spend nothing else. You buy your replica shirt wear it with pride. Your money your choice..

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Post by Vince Fontaine » Tue Mar 28, 2023 11:19 pm

BFC12345678 wrote:
Tue Mar 28, 2023 11:04 pm
What do you want them to do? Go through every fans purchase history and see what games they’ve been to and those who’ve been to the furthest away away games get a ticket
No. Set the loyalty points at 10,000 then 8,000 then 6,000 to allow the MOST loyal fans a better chance of a ticket.

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Post by quoonbeatz » Tue Mar 28, 2023 11:22 pm

Lol at thinking amassing 6k points over 10 seasons isn't 'loyal' enough. Honestly, grow up.
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Post by Vince Fontaine » Tue Mar 28, 2023 11:22 pm

TravisBickle wrote:
Tue Mar 28, 2023 11:08 pm
10 season tickets and 150 away / cup games. It’s hardly a fair weather fan is it.

I’d personally have the points system at a lower threshold if they base it on loyalty points. Not higher. More inclusive to more fans of all ages and ‘means’.

But as I said before. Rolling 2-4 year system. Perhaps with a 70% guaranteed to higher points and 30% on a ballot.

But why over complicate things. It’s a once in a blue moon that this is ever going to be a problem. It’s literally the first time it’s ever happened.

And probably won’t happen again. Even if we got to a major cup final we would have more tickets than season ticket holders.

No that’s my point 3 supporters who had 10 season tickets and 150 cup and away matches each MORE than the supporters with 6000 points have missed out. Like you say hardly fair weather fans.
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We didn’t even sell out home and away for Europe.

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Post by Vince Fontaine » Tue Mar 28, 2023 11:25 pm

quoonbeatz wrote:
Tue Mar 28, 2023 11:22 pm
Lol at thinking amassing 6k points over 10 seasons isn't 'loyal' enough. Honestly, grow up.
LOL at thinking at amassing 11000+ points at age 25 is less loyal.

I know you are a nob but you just proved it there.

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Post by Vince Fontaine » Tue Mar 28, 2023 11:28 pm

Vince Fontaine wrote:
Tue Mar 28, 2023 11:22 pm
Exactly some who went away in Europe to all 3 matches missed out in this ballot that rewarded loyalty!

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Post by quoonbeatz » Tue Mar 28, 2023 11:28 pm

Vince Fontaine wrote:
Tue Mar 28, 2023 11:25 pm
LOL at thinking at amassing 11000+ points at age 25 is less loyal.

I know you are a nob but you just proved it there.

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Nobody thinks that 11000+ is less 'loyal' than 6000, Vince. You've got yourself confused.

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Post by Swizzlestick » Tue Mar 28, 2023 11:30 pm

Do not agree with the tone of the article, certainly don’t agree with the headline. Rovers have stitched us up here, and this should have been given the greater leverage.
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Post by TravisBickle » Tue Mar 28, 2023 11:30 pm

Vince Fontaine wrote:
Tue Mar 28, 2023 11:17 pm
Exactly what the club have done. It’s my money if I choose not to spend it at the club that’s up to me. The ballot wasn’t for the most Loyal fans. You could amass 6000 points in the last10 seasons( including this one).

I think 11000+ for a 25 and a 27 year old proves loyalty.

We’ll get our season tickets and any away matches we are deemed loyal enough to be allowed to attend and spend nothing else. You buy your replica shirt wear it with pride. Your money your choice..

UTC
So you’re loyal - When it suits. 😂

6,000 is a LOT of points. End of.

Someone with 2,000 is loyal.

I’ve less than 5,000. Been home and away to most games since the early 80s. For many of those games I paid on the gate home and away. Zero points accrued. Therefore didn’t even qualify to enter the ballot. Never mind get a ticket.

Been to Millwall on a Tuesday this season. Hull. Watford on a Friday night. Pretty much every away game. QPR on a Sunday dinner time at Christmas.

Istanbul. Norwich on a Sunday at lunch time. MK dons on a weeknight with about 100 others. Rochdale at home in the cup. Spurs away in cup. The same week we played them away in the league. At Christmas.

It is what it is. No crying over spilt milk. I didn’t accumulate the points when the system was introduced.

Theirs fans more loyal than me who didn’t get one either. And will be fans less loyal than me or younger fans that manage to get one. Good luck to them. We are all clarets and all loyal in our own way.

It’s a nonsense fixture anyway and thankfully will be nothing riding on it for us.
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Re: ARTICLE: Clubs should hang their heads in shame over derby tickets

Post by paulatky » Tue Mar 28, 2023 11:33 pm

AGENT_CLARET wrote:
Tue Mar 28, 2023 10:53 pm
Identity isn't being checked at Ewood park
Well that makes a mockery of the whole system.
I bet half of those attending won’t have 6,000 pts but will know someone who has and use their ticket
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Post by martin_p » Tue Mar 28, 2023 11:33 pm

Vince Fontaine wrote:
Tue Mar 28, 2023 11:28 pm
Exactly some who went away in Europe to all 3 matches missed out in this ballot that rewarded loyalty!

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They can comfort themselves with the fact that they have enough disposable income to travel to Europe three times in a few weeks (and yes, I know one was only Scotland).
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Post by TravisBickle » Tue Mar 28, 2023 11:33 pm

Vince Fontaine wrote:
Tue Mar 28, 2023 11:28 pm
Exactly some who went away in Europe to all 3 matches missed out in this ballot that rewarded loyalty!

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Someone (me) who went to them didn’t even qualify for the ballot.

Not that the European games should even be a measure. That was purely who had the luxury of most money and flexibility.

Three away European games drawn at short notice played within a month of each other. There’s no way many could afford it never mind justify it.
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Post by Somethingfishy » Tue Mar 28, 2023 11:33 pm

All on Blackburn for me is this. Giving Norwich 4000 after giving us only 2000 flys i the face of any other argument other than it's been done just to limit our party in their ground. It's pure jealousy. I can understand it at a fan level but when the club itself can't rise above it, it really is quite pathetic.
How do we retaliate? Well hopefully we don't play them again for quite some time but when we do..
1) They get the bare minimum too. A precedent has been set. Not that it's much different to what we can give anyway.
2) We put our food prices up but sell beer really cheap..encourage purchase.
3) The said beer is way out of date.
4) Close off all the cubicles in the toilets..they will need them after the bad beer :lol:

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Post by IanMcL » Tue Mar 28, 2023 11:39 pm

Away matches should be the priority of those who attend away matches. A season ticket holder who has a number of away matches, that season, should be top priority.

Those with season tickets, who never feature anywhere, should stay at home!

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Post by BFC12345678 » Tue Mar 28, 2023 11:43 pm

paulatky wrote:
Tue Mar 28, 2023 11:33 pm
Well that makes a mockery of the whole system.
I bet half of those attending won’t have 6,000 pts but will know someone who has and use their ticket

Would be idiotic to start checking ID’s of ticket holders to see if they match up

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Post by Vince Fontaine » Tue Mar 28, 2023 11:43 pm

TravisBickle wrote:
Tue Mar 28, 2023 11:30 pm
So you’re loyal - When it suits. 😂

6,000 is a LOT of points. End of.

Someone with 2,000 is loyal.

I’ve less than 5,000. Been home and away to most games since the early 80s. For many of those games I paid on the gate home and away. Zero points accrued. Therefore didn’t even qualify to enter the ballot. Never mind get a ticket.

Been to Millwall on a Tuesday this season. Hull. Watford on a Friday night. Pretty much every away game. QPR on a Sunday dinner time at Christmas.

Istanbul. Norwich on a Sunday at lunch time. MK dons on a weeknight with about 100 others. Rochdale at home in the cup. Spurs away in cup. The same week we played them away in the league. At Christmas.

It is what it is. No crying over spilt milk. I didn’t accumulate the points when the system was introduced.

Theirs fans more loyal than me who didn’t get one either. And will be fans less loyal than me or younger fans that manage to get one. Good luck to them. We are all clarets and all loyal in our own way.

It’s a nonsense fixture anyway and thankfully will be nothing riding on it for us.
I agree 6000 points is a lot. You could have got to 6000 in the last 10 seasons. Do you think 11000 + points is just given to some people? it has taken my children about 20 years to amass 11000+ points. That’s 20 season tickets and 15 cup /away matches per season on average. I started in the late 70’s and have had a season ticket for 45+ years. If you haven’t got the points then there is something wrong if you’ve had a season ticket and been to loads of away matches. Loyalty over 20 years has not been rewarded yet loyalty over 10 has. That is not rewarding loyalty is it?

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Re: ARTICLE: Clubs should hang their heads in shame over derby tickets

Post by BFC12345678 » Tue Mar 28, 2023 11:45 pm

Vince Fontaine wrote:
Tue Mar 28, 2023 11:28 pm
Exactly some who went away in Europe to all 3 matches missed out in this ballot that rewarded loyalty!

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Yeh sorry I couldn’t afford 3 trips to Aberdeen, Istanbul & Athens within the space of a month when I was 18 must mean I’m disloyal

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Post by TravisBickle » Tue Mar 28, 2023 11:47 pm

Vince Fontaine wrote:
Tue Mar 28, 2023 11:43 pm
I agree 6000 points is a lot. You could have got to 6000 in the last 10 seasons. Do you think 11000 + points is just given to some people? it has taken my children about 20 years to amass 11000+ points. That’s 20 season tickets and 15 cup /away matches per season on average. I started in the late 70’s and have had a season ticket for 45+ years. If you haven’t got the points then there is something wrong if you’ve had a season ticket and been to loads of away matches. Loyalty over 20 years has not been rewarded yet loyalty over 10 has. That is not rewarding loyalty is it?

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If you re read my post. I paid on the gate for many games down the years. Especially away. It’s only recently that this isn’t an option for home or away games. That’s why I don’t have enough points. And that’s why I don’t have a problem with it.

It’s one game. In the 20+ years that your kids have attended that this has been a problem. And probably won’t happen again. It’s a game that won’t even matter in the scheme of the season. I’m sure they’ll get over it.

It’s amazing how the people kicking up the biggest fuss are those that were fortunate enough to be in the ballot in the first place.

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Re: ARTICLE: Clubs should hang their heads in shame over derby tickets

Post by Vince Fontaine » Tue Mar 28, 2023 11:48 pm

martin_p wrote:
Tue Mar 28, 2023 11:33 pm
They can comfort themselves with the fact that they have enough disposable income to travel to Europe three times in a few weeks (and yes, I know one was only Scotland).
Or they prioritised going to these matches over pi$$ing it up a wall and made sacrifices in other monetary ways to get there because they were loyal to their club. That loyalty has not been reciprocated by the club.

You choose what to spend your money on and shouldn’t criticise others for making their own choices.

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