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Forrest? Or Forest

Post by bfcmik » Mon Jul 09, 2018 9:26 pm

It really gets my goat (pretty easy do do these days, sadly) when posters call the football team from Nottingham: Forrest. Even their own club website calls them Nottingham Forest. https://www.nottinghamforest.co.uk/

Where on earth did this urban myth about it being double 'rr' come from? Or did someone hear somebody from darkest Rossendale saying they were going to the 'Forrrrrest game'?

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Re: Forrest? Or Forest

Post by Cirrus_Minor » Mon Jul 09, 2018 9:57 pm

Best way to wind them up is to call them Notts Forest. ;)
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Re: Forrest? Or Forest

Post by Goody1975 » Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:21 pm

Cirrus_Minor wrote:Best way to wind them up is to call them Notts Forest. ;)
I think you mean Notts Forrest and Rowls will be along shortly to confirm it really does get their backs up.
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Re: Forrest? Or Forest

Post by thatdberight » Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:21 pm

bfcmik wrote:It really gets my goat (pretty easy do do these days, sadly) when posters call the football team from Nottingham: Forrest. Even their own club website calls them Nottingham Forest. https://www.nottinghamforest.co.uk/

Where on earth did this urban myth about it being double 'rr' come from? Or did someone hear somebody from darkest Rossendale saying they were going to the 'Forrrrrest game'?
Why would 'forest' be excluded from the almost all-encompassing list of words that are misspelled on here?

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Re: Forrest? Or Forest

Post by duncandisorderly » Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:28 pm

It really gets my goat when people say 'it gets my goat' about stuff they don't understand!

Rather.

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Re: Forrest? Or Forest

Post by tiger76 » Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:41 pm

Thought this was a thread about the Celtic winger signing for us :( to see it is not.

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Re: Forrest? Or Forest

Post by tim_noone » Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:51 pm

Wood or woods?

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Re: Forrest? Or Forest

Post by dsr » Mon Jul 09, 2018 11:12 pm

Cirrus_Minor wrote:Best way to wind them up is to call them Notts Forest. ;)
I agree. Notts Forest fans swear blind that their short name is Nottm, but they haven't the foggiest idea how it should be pronounced.

"Notts Forest" is just an egregious an abbreviation as their fellow midland clubs, Wolves and West Brom. If their fans insisted that they should be pronounced "Wolvm" and "Brmch", I think they would be successfully ignored.

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Re: Forrest? Or Forest

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:47 am

Goody1975 wrote:Rowls will be along shortly to confirm it really does get their backs up.
A few years ago they complained to our club because we'd put NOTTS FOREST on the next match board by the traffic lights. To be fair, you would expect one club to get another club's name correct.

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Re: Forrest? Or Forest

Post by dsr » Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:56 am

ClaretTony wrote:A few years ago they complained to our club because we'd put NOTTS FOREST on the next match board by the traffic lights. To be fair, you would expect one club to get another club's name correct.
You're right. I've seen Man United and Man City up there as well. Just as bad IMO. Or just as trivial.

If Notts Forest want to change their name to Nottm Forest, they're perfectly entitled to. They have chosen not to. Maybe next time they come (if there is a next time) we ought to put the full name "Nottingham Forest" in tiny, barely legible, letters, just so it fits in. :roll:

But seriously, why are they so precious about their unpronounceable short form? I remember yonks back on Match of the Day, Jimmy Hill made a grovelling apology for using the words Notts Forest (after someone complained). Are they really so concerned that people won't know the difference between them and Notts County?

How exactly should "Nottm" be pronounced?

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Re: Forrest? Or Forest

Post by Damo » Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:13 am

Amazing what upsets people these days.

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Re: Forrest? Or Forest

Post by Vino blanco » Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:20 am

Bit of trivia for you, Nottinham was originally known as Snottingham, after a Saxon leader called Snot.

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Re: Forrest? Or Forest

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Jul 10, 2018 11:09 am

dsr wrote:You're right. I've seen Man United and Man City up there as well. Just as bad IMO. Or just as trivial.

If Notts Forest want to change their name to Nottm Forest, they're perfectly entitled to. They have chosen not to. Maybe next time they come (if there is a next time) we ought to put the full name "Nottingham Forest" in tiny, barely legible, letters, just so it fits in. :roll:

But seriously, why are they so precious about their unpronounceable short form? I remember yonks back on Match of the Day, Jimmy Hill made a grovelling apology for using the words Notts Forest (after someone complained). Are they really so concerned that people won't know the difference between them and Notts County?

How exactly should "Nottm" be pronounced?
Man City & Man United are acceptable abbreviations. As for the two Nottingham clubs, one is Notts and the other is Nottingham which can be abbreviated to Nottm. If you were in the city and referred to Notts, it is assumed you are talking about Notts County. They aren't and have never been Notts Forest.

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Re: Forrest? Or Forest

Post by dsr » Tue Jul 10, 2018 11:42 am

ClaretTony wrote:Man City & Man United are acceptable abbreviations. As for the two Nottingham clubs, one is Notts and the other is Nottingham which can be abbreviated to Nottm. If you were in the city and referred to Notts, it is assumed you are talking about Notts County. They aren't and have never been Notts Forest.
Who defines what is acceptable? If Blackburn Rovers fans say they don't want to be called B*****d Rovers, would we stop?

How do you pronounce Nottm?

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Re: Forrest? Or Forest

Post by thatdberight » Tue Jul 10, 2018 11:57 am

dsr wrote:Who defines what is acceptable? If Blackburn Rovers fans say they don't want to be called B*****d Rovers, would we stop?

How do you pronounce Nottm?
How do you pronounce, "Mr." or "Dr."? Is an abbreviation a new concept to you?

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Re: Forrest? Or Forest

Post by Rowls » Tue Jul 10, 2018 11:59 am

dsr wrote:How exactly should "Nottm" be pronounced?
They all pronounce in Notinum anyway so it's easy to see why they're misspelling it too.

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Re: Forrest? Or Forest

Post by Tall Paul » Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:05 pm

dsr wrote:How do you pronounce Nottm?
Not-ing-am
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Re: Forrest? Or Forest

Post by thatdberight » Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:11 pm

Rowls wrote:They all pronounce in Notinum anyway so it's easy to see why they're misspelling it too.
Dottingham.

Second class return.

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Re: Forrest? Or Forest

Post by dsr » Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:30 pm

thatdberight wrote:How do you pronounce, "Mr." or "Dr."? Is an abbreviation a new concept to you?
Mr and Dr are abbreviations to shorten the written form, not the verbal form. Notts Forest is an abbreviation to shorten the verbal form.

Do you think an aggressively sarcastic rhetorical question is a good way to finish a post and keep this board friendly? Personally, I often find that when I have written a post, it's a good idea to delete my last sentence because I have already made my point.

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Re: Forrest? Or Forest

Post by Lord Beamish » Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:40 pm

dsr wrote:Mr and Dr are abbreviations to shorten the written form, not the verbal form. Notts Forest is an abbreviation to shorten the verbal form.

Do you think an aggressively sarcastic rhetorical question is a good way to finish a post and keep this board friendly? Personally, I often find that when I have written a post, it's a good idea to delete my last sentence because I have already made my point.
Notts is the abbreviation for Nottinghamshire, Nottm for Nottingham.
Notts County’s full name is Nottinghamshire County Football Club. Forest’s is Nottingham Forest Football Club.

I’d guess that you pronounce Nottm, Nottingham.
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Re: Forrest? Or Forest

Post by thatdberight » Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:50 pm

dsr wrote:Mr and Dr are abbreviations to shorten the written form, not the verbal form. Notts Forest is an abbreviation to shorten the verbal form.

Do you think an aggressively sarcastic rhetorical question is a good way to finish a post and keep this board friendly? Personally, I often find that when I have written a post, it's a good idea to delete my last sentence because I have already made my point.
Notts is an abbreviation for Nottinghamshire. It's got nothing to do with Nottingham Forest, verbally or in writing. Nott'm (often Nottm) is an abbreviation for Nottingham. Just like So'ton (often Soton) is for Southampton.

There was another example but I deleted it as it was my last sentence :)

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Re: Forrest? Or Forest

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:29 pm

dsr wrote:Who defines what is acceptable? If Blackburn Rovers fans say they don't want to be called B*****d Rovers, would we stop?

How do you pronounce Nottm?
Pathetic response - and who cares how they pronounce it, NOTTINGHAM (not Notts) FOREST is the correct name of the club.

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Re: Forrest? Or Forest

Post by COYC73 » Tue Jul 10, 2018 4:13 pm

It’s all Gump’s fault....

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Re: Forrest? Or Forest

Post by tim_noone » Tue Jul 10, 2018 4:28 pm

thatdberight wrote:Dottingham.

Second class return.
Tuuuuuuuunnes :?
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