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Post by Firthy » Fri Jan 29, 2021 2:15 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 2:00 pm
Latest from Dyche

“Not at the moment (close to bringing anyone in). Still trying and looking at things, but it’s very difficult at the moment. We’ll wait and see, there’s maybes”
More like "maybe not's" :o :roll:

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Post by DomBFC1882 » Fri Jan 29, 2021 2:16 pm

warksclaret wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 2:13 pm
I cannot be as positive -I am guessing two out on loan (Benson & Dunn), and none in
Can't afford to be letting any go without incomings imo considering the injury record of our midfielders plus Dunne leaving would leave us with centre halves. That would be suicidal tbh

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Post by Grumps » Fri Jan 29, 2021 2:17 pm

DCWat wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 2:07 pm
Ah but for who?
A defender in that price bracket.... In his press conference today
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Post by beddie » Fri Jan 29, 2021 2:32 pm

I don't think we'll make any signings. I just hope none go out.

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Post by DCWat » Fri Jan 29, 2021 2:52 pm

Grumps wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 2:17 pm
A defender in that price bracket.... In his press conference today
What did he actually say? Had a nosey on line but didn’t find his comment.

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Post by jojomk1 » Fri Jan 29, 2021 2:54 pm

I think it's fair to say that, under the old regime, Dyche would know pretty much exactly where he stood in terms of finances available for transfers
Garlick and JB had no reason to hide anything and I'm sure Dyche knew pretty well how much powder was stored in the bank
Indeed, he was quoted numerous times along the lines "I appreciate the financial constraints of a club like Burnley and that the long term future for the club needs to be protected"
He may not have been happy with that situation, (especially last summer) and did start to make some snide remarks but that was the situation where clearly Garlick did not want to use all of the petty cash
January is a notoriously difficult time to do business and the current lack of signings throughout the Premier League back that up
If we have bid circa £5m for the lad from Stoke and they have put out that they are looking for £15m it's a fair assumption the deal won't happen
We could go along the lines of the Gibson deal with a loan and agreement to buy in the summer if we stay up
As for WR who is out there available anyway, maybe Reiss Nelson at Arsenal but the cupboard seems to be quite bare
My real worry is that the current owners would not baulk at putting the club into substantial financial debt. We already have seen our "cash at bank" balance stripped bare and the chairman has said "it's not that important if we get relegated" - really!!!
Sounds like a business model similar to the Glaziers - trouble is we don't have the revenue streams of Man Utd
It's not that many years ago when we were in financial trouble with a transfer embargo and it was only the Flood loan plus Coyle's first promotion to the Prem League that steadied the ship
It will be interesting to see/hear the reaction of Dyche once this window closes
He didn't hold back in his comments on Garlick last summer - will Pace get the same ?

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Post by Danieljwaterhouse » Fri Jan 29, 2021 3:00 pm

DCWat wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 1:36 pm
Where have you come up with £80 million from?
Have a read of Klopps comments in his media today. He mentions the lack of 80million CB’s available.

Tarks is valued at whatever football clubs want to pay at that moment.

He’s a proven (in a limited system) premier league CB, an international, and he’s not Euro cup tied. He wants to move to further his career.

If Liverpool come knocking, and his agent takes that call, at whatever price we’ve got to consider it.

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Post by DCWat » Fri Jan 29, 2021 3:06 pm

Danieljwaterhouse wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 3:00 pm
Have a read of Klopps comments in his media today. He mentions the lack of 80million CB’s available.

Tarks is valued at whatever football clubs want to pay at that moment.

He’s a proven (in a limited system) premier league CB, an international, and he’s not Euro cup tied. He wants to move to further his career.

If Liverpool come knocking, and his agent takes that call, at whatever price we’ve got to consider it.
Ah I’m with you - more a, there’s a lack of £80 million centre backs so it could be to look a little lower down in the price range?

I’d agree that if a decent offer comes in, we’d be mad not to consider it, providing we have something lined up.

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Post by randomclaret2 » Fri Jan 29, 2021 3:08 pm

Look at the results when Tarkowski was missing...

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Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Fri Jan 29, 2021 3:10 pm

Danieljwaterhouse wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 3:00 pm
Have a read of Klopps comments in his media today. He mentions the lack of 80million CB’s available.

Tarks is valued at whatever football clubs want to pay at that moment.

He’s a proven (in a limited system) premier league CB, an international, and he’s not Euro cup tied. He wants to move to further his career.

If Liverpool come knocking, and his agent takes that call, at whatever price we’ve got to consider it.

If he wants to pay 80m for a centre half would we not be better off letting him sign either Long or Dunne ?
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Post by Danieljwaterhouse » Fri Jan 29, 2021 3:10 pm

DCWat wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 3:06 pm
Ah I’m with you - more a, there’s a lack of £80 million centre backs so it could be to look a little lower down in the price range?

I’d agree that if a decent offer comes in, we’d be mad not to consider it, providing we have something lined up.
I agree. I think he’s already in talks, someone has asked for silly money, he’s setting the bar and lowering expectations.

35/40 million total with a breakdown for champs league, league etc

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Post by Danieljwaterhouse » Fri Jan 29, 2021 3:11 pm

randomclaret2 wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 3:08 pm
Look at the results when Tarkowski was missing...
Look at them when his head was turned...

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Post by DCWat » Fri Jan 29, 2021 3:11 pm

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 3:10 pm
If he wants to pay 80m for a centre half would we not be better off letting him sign either Long or Dunne ?
He might need a knock on the head first.

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Post by Danieljwaterhouse » Fri Jan 29, 2021 3:12 pm

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 3:10 pm
If he wants to pay 80m for a centre half would we not be better off letting him sign either Long or Dunne ?
I think we might see a merry go round involving a few clubs, including us.

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Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Fri Jan 29, 2021 3:12 pm

DCWat wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 3:11 pm
He might need a knock on the head first.

That is the easy bit most the country would give him a knock to his head
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Post by rob63 » Fri Jan 29, 2021 3:16 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 12:40 pm
Lansbury? Yes "Angela" was on our radar for longer than Craig Dawson he must be in his mid thirties by now
30, according to my newspaper, Woodley

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Post by rob63 » Fri Jan 29, 2021 3:19 pm

kentonclaret wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 10:32 am
Still content to keep kicking the can down the road it would seem. :)
Down the road? It must be Down Under by now, judging by the last few windows ;)

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Post by IWOODLOVETT » Fri Jan 29, 2021 3:29 pm

Beware injured toes or other ailments to Wednesday’s starting line-up when we meet Chelsea on Sunday !!!

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Post by arise_sir_charge » Fri Jan 29, 2021 3:31 pm

jojomk1 wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 2:54 pm
I think it's fair to say that, under the old regime, Dyche would know pretty much exactly where he stood in terms of finances available for transfers
Garlick and JB had no reason to hide anything and I'm sure Dyche knew pretty well how much powder was stored in the bank
Indeed, he was quoted numerous times along the lines "I appreciate the financial constraints of a club like Burnley and that the long term future for the club needs to be protected"
He may not have been happy with that situation, (especially last summer) and did start to make some snide remarks but that was the situation where clearly Garlick did not want to use all of the petty cash
January is a notoriously difficult time to do business and the current lack of signings throughout the Premier League back that up
If we have bid circa £5m for the lad from Stoke and they have put out that they are looking for £15m it's a fair assumption the deal won't happen
We could go along the lines of the Gibson deal with a loan and agreement to buy in the summer if we stay up
As for WR who is out there available anyway, maybe Reiss Nelson at Arsenal but the cupboard seems to be quite bare
My real worry is that the current owners would not baulk at putting the club into substantial financial debt. We already have seen our "cash at bank" balance stripped bare and the chairman has said "it's not that important if we get relegated" - really!!!
Sounds like a business model similar to the Glaziers - trouble is we don't have the revenue streams of Man Utd
It's not that many years ago when we were in financial trouble with a transfer embargo and it was only the Flood loan plus Coyle's first promotion to the Prem League that steadied the ship
It will be interesting to see/hear the reaction of Dyche once this window closes
He didn't hold back in his comments on Garlick last summer - will Pace get the same ?
You were "The Orient game" away from a full house there jojomk1!

As it happens, I actually think that Dyche's tone is much different than in the summer. He's not been his usual dismissive self this window. In the summer he kept saying he didn't know the budget and more than once made it clear he expected nothing. On that basis, I think he is far more comfortable that if thinks 'align' as he would say, we will do some business.

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Post by BFC123 » Fri Jan 29, 2021 3:34 pm

Danieljwaterhouse wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 3:12 pm
I think we might see a merry go round involving a few clubs, including us.
What happened to the signing that was due to be announced that delayed Dyche’s press conference last week? :roll:

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Post by warksclaret » Fri Jan 29, 2021 3:38 pm

arise_sir_charge wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 3:31 pm
You were "The Orient game" away from a full house there jojomk1!

As it happens, I actually think that Dyche's tone is much different than in the summer. He's not been his usual dismissive self this window. In the summer he kept saying he didn't know the budget and more than once made it clear he expected nothing. On that basis, I think he is far more comfortable that if thinks 'align' as he would say, we will do some business.
His tone is different because he has new bosses. He could humiliate the old board regularly, but I guess he seeing how far he can go at present without it making it look like a dig. Although he did resurrect the "bag of chips" quote only recently

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Post by Pearcey » Fri Jan 29, 2021 3:51 pm

BFC123 wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 3:34 pm
What happened to the signing that was due to be announced that delayed Dyche’s press conference last week? :roll:
To be fair to DJW, he’s certainly got some front. To constantly talk like he’s in the know when it’s clear he isn’t, is top drawer. Fair play.
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Post by Danieljwaterhouse » Fri Jan 29, 2021 4:15 pm

BFC123 wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 3:34 pm
What happened to the signing that was due to be announced that delayed Dyche’s press conference last week? :roll:
Second hand info as indicated in the post.
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Post by ClaretMov » Fri Jan 29, 2021 4:38 pm

I'll make a prediction, we will sign Kenny on loan from Everton late on Monday and he will sit on the bench for the rest of the season then go back, that will be our full transfer window for January.
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Post by boatshed bill » Fri Jan 29, 2021 4:41 pm

ClaretMov wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 4:38 pm
I'll make a prediction, we will sign Kenny on loan from Everton late on Monday and he will sit on the bench for the rest of the season then go back, that will be our full transfer window for January.
TBH that is more than I expect :D

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Post by NewClaret » Fri Jan 29, 2021 4:57 pm

ClaretMov wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 4:38 pm
I'll make a prediction, we will sign Kenny on loan from Everton late on Monday and he will sit on the bench for the rest of the season then go back, that will be our full transfer window for January.
Sounds realistic/likely.

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Post by Taffy on the wing » Fri Jan 29, 2021 5:09 pm

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Yep its over sadly I'd say.
My God!............Why bother getting out of bed?
You might want to see a doctor about your depression!

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Post by DomBFC1882 » Fri Jan 29, 2021 5:33 pm

Taffy on the wing wrote:
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My God!............Why bother getting out of bed?
You might want to see a doctor about your depression!
Do you know me?

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Post by Paulclaret » Fri Jan 29, 2021 6:09 pm

Seems like football agents have come as a bit of a shock to Mr Pace.
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Post by DomBFC1882 » Fri Jan 29, 2021 6:14 pm

Fantastic interview from Mr Pace 👏

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Post by lrac » Fri Jan 29, 2021 6:26 pm

Agreed

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Post by Paul Waine » Fri Jan 29, 2021 6:28 pm

Paulclaret wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 6:09 pm
Seems like football agents have come as a bit of a shock to Mr Pace.
Hi Paul, thanks for posting - great interview. The more I hear what Alan Pace has to say the more delighted he's our chairman.

Exciting times.

UTC

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Post by Aclaret » Fri Jan 29, 2021 6:29 pm

Paulclaret wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 6:09 pm
Seems like football agents have come as a bit of a shock to Mr Pace.
Don't give in to em Mr Chairman.

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Post by Firthy » Fri Jan 29, 2021 6:31 pm

Good interview and I like his stance but find it hard to believe that having been involved with American sport that he's surprised by agents antics.

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Post by CaptJohn » Fri Jan 29, 2021 6:34 pm

I like his philosophy and as long as he can "walk the walk" after "talking the talk" I'll be happy. Now then Mr Pace can you please respond to my letter?

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Post by brunlea99 » Fri Jan 29, 2021 7:04 pm

Share it ?

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Post by DomBFC1882 » Fri Jan 29, 2021 7:16 pm

I think he means the letter from Capt John 😂

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Post by Reecey1987 » Fri Jan 29, 2021 7:20 pm

DomBFC1882 wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 7:16 pm
I think he means the letter from Capt John 😂
Sorry my mistake .

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Post by DomBFC1882 » Fri Jan 29, 2021 7:21 pm

Reecey1987 wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 7:20 pm
Sorry my mistake .
No problem mate it tickled me though 😁. Anything that produces a laugh at these times must be enjoyed 👍

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Post by huw.Y.WattfromWare » Fri Jan 29, 2021 7:25 pm

Have I not read on here that Tarks contract states he won’t be sold to any of the other NW big 5 for less than £50m?

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Post by NewClaret » Fri Jan 29, 2021 7:37 pm

Paul Waine wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 6:28 pm
Hi Paul, thanks for posting - great interview. The more I hear what Alan Pace has to say the more delighted he's our chairman.

Exciting times.

UTC
Totally agree mate. A delight to read.

Exciting times.

(I’ve started putting this on my emails at work in your honour)
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Post by Boss Hogg » Fri Jan 29, 2021 7:41 pm

Dread to think of the cringeworthy letters the new chairman receives from self entitled fans.

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Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Fri Jan 29, 2021 7:54 pm

Boss Hogg wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 7:41 pm
Dread to think of the cringeworthy letters the new chairman receives from self entitled fans.
The tweets are bad enough. Hope he’s paying someone to read them for him.
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Post by taio » Fri Jan 29, 2021 7:59 pm

Best thing Pace could do is delete his Twitter account or at least restrict access.

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Post by fatboy47 » Fri Jan 29, 2021 8:17 pm

The Scots have a saying, I don't know the exact words but the gist is..

"" judge me by my deeds, not my words""

Lots of sycophantic gushing on display here but I've yet to see evidence of anything that deviates from the norms of recent years...not sure a few grumbles about agents fees constitutes some great new radical departure.

Early days yet.... hopefully time (and deeds) will soon bring the much heralded "" exciting times".
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Post by DCWat » Fri Jan 29, 2021 8:56 pm

fatboy47 wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 8:17 pm
The Scots have a saying, I don't know the exact words but the gist is..

"" judge me by my deeds, not my words""

Lots of sycophantic gushing on display here but I've yet to see evidence of anything that deviates from the norms of recent years...not sure a few grumbles about agents fees constitutes some great new radical departure.

Early days yet.... hopefully time (and deeds) will soon bring the much heralded "" exciting times".
It’s not in the league of assuming that you can’t be relegated but it doesn’t instil huge confidence if there has been surprise with agents and how they act.

Perhaps it’s more the levels to which they act that is the surprising thing and not that they’re just a bunch of money grabbing two hats.

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Post by boatshed bill » Fri Jan 29, 2021 9:01 pm

DCWat wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 8:56 pm
It’s not in the league of assuming that you can’t be relegated but it doesn’t instil huge confidence if there has been surprise with agents and how they act.

Perhaps it’s more the levels to which they act that is the surprising thing and not that they’re just a bunch of money grabbing two hats.
It really is time for the players to pay their agents, not the clubs.
If all clubs stood up for this the football world would be a better place.
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Post by DCWat » Fri Jan 29, 2021 9:08 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 9:01 pm
It really is time for the players to pay their agents, not the clubs.
If all clubs stood up for this the football world would be a better place.
I don’t understand why that can’t or doesn’t happen.

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Post by Burnley1989 » Fri Jan 29, 2021 9:16 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 9:01 pm
It really is time for the players to pay their agents, not the clubs.
If all clubs stood up for this the football world would be a better place.
Most players do pay their agents, they get a cut of their weekly wage believe it or not

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