Bamford

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Sun Dec 27, 2020 6:57 pm

Better than what we have?

karatekid · Post by **karatekid** » Sun Dec 27, 2020 6:59 pm

He just gets better service.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Dec 27, 2020 7:00 pm

Groundhog Day. Just bump up the recent thread of the same subject.

Wellsy1882 · Post by **Wellsy1882** » Sun Dec 27, 2020 7:04 pm

Better than Barnes

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Sun Dec 27, 2020 7:05 pm

FactualFrank wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 27, 2020 7:00 pm
Groundhog Day. Just bump up the recent thread of the same subject.

where is that, Frank?

warksclaret · Post by **warksclaret** » Sun Dec 27, 2020 7:27 pm

Apart from the run when the penalty took place and his pen, did he really do much more ??

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Sun Dec 27, 2020 7:28 pm

We should close this thread and go on the long one

agreenwood · Post by **agreenwood** » Sun Dec 27, 2020 7:33 pm

He’s excellent with no crowd on his back.

tarkys_ears · Post by **tarkys_ears** » Sun Dec 27, 2020 7:34 pm

Wellsy1882 wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 27, 2020 7:04 pm
Better than Barnes

Barnes score a goal from open play.

Bamford had to settle for a penalty.

Hows he better?

superdimitri · Post by **superdimitri** » Sun Dec 27, 2020 7:43 pm

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Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sun Dec 27, 2020 7:43 pm

can we just get over Bamford ffs

Zlatan · Post by **Zlatan** » Sun Dec 27, 2020 7:48 pm

Far too emotional to be an effective threat. When he goes a few games without scoring he’ll be crying in his car.

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Sun Dec 27, 2020 7:48 pm

agreenwood wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 27, 2020 7:33 pm
He’s excellent with no crowd on his back.

No he isn’t excellent. Not even close.

And presumably you are referring to his time at boro with regards to the crowd on his back?

BurnleyFC · Post by **BurnleyFC** » Sun Dec 27, 2020 8:06 pm

I thought he was pretty poor today, but saying that, so were our forwards.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Sun Dec 27, 2020 8:34 pm

I put this up hoping that most posters would say that he is no better than what we have.

rob63 · Post by **rob63** » Sun Dec 27, 2020 8:39 pm

He was always going to score though wasn't he?

thelaughingclaret · Post by **thelaughingclaret** » Sun Dec 27, 2020 8:49 pm

I would love to run him over with my car.

Untinted Glasses · Post by **Untinted Glasses** » Sun Dec 27, 2020 9:34 pm

He is better than what we have imo , as is Vydra

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sun Dec 27, 2020 9:36 pm

boatshed bill wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 27, 2020 8:34 pm
I put this up hoping that most posters would say that he is no better than what we have.

He isn't - offered precious little today and wasn't an outlet for them in the second half when we were on top.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Sun Dec 27, 2020 9:42 pm

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 27, 2020 9:36 pm
He isn't - offered precious little today and wasn't an outlet for them in the second half when we were on top.

Exactly.

Blackburn_Claret · Post by **Blackburn_Claret** » Sun Dec 27, 2020 9:53 pm

Hes a lot better than we have. Offered little? He won and scored the penalty that won the game.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sun Dec 27, 2020 9:55 pm

He is a good finisher and something different to what we have.

His record now he is playing regular at this leevl is what many thought capable of. He is basically doing what he's done at every other level. He has got his premier league chance later than I thought he would but hes certainly taking it. Looks confident - his penalty certainly was!

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Sun Dec 27, 2020 9:59 pm

Leeds create lots of chances and he misses lots of them

Iloveyoubrady · Post by **Iloveyoubrady** » Sun Dec 27, 2020 9:59 pm

He’s no better than what we have and any of our strikers (even Vydra) would score as many goals in a side creating so many clear cut chances.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sun Dec 27, 2020 10:01 pm

Super Frank Lampard's Chelsea reject Bamford is approx 120 PL appearances behind journeyman 350K Ashley Barnes - Bamford has a long way to go, you don't play nearly 170 games in the PL as a striker if you are crap

Heathclaret · Post by **Heathclaret** » Sun Dec 27, 2020 10:20 pm

Was wearing gloves. Nothings more to say.

dermotdermot · Post by **dermotdermot** » Sun Dec 27, 2020 10:53 pm

He actually did us a favour by blocking what looked like a goal certainty by one of his own players in the second half. Apart from that he did nothing other than falling over Pope’s ball winning leg.

dermotdermot · Post by **dermotdermot** » Sun Dec 27, 2020 10:55 pm

Oh, and for some reason he was interviewed after the game where he referred to Burnley as being different from other premiership teams in that they are over physical.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sun Dec 27, 2020 10:57 pm

dermotdermot wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 27, 2020 10:55 pm
Oh, and for some reason he was interviewed after the game where he referred to Burnley as being different from other premiership teams in that they are over physical.

He was actually complimentary of us.

HB Claret · Post by **HB Claret** » Mon Dec 28, 2020 12:10 am

You can file him alongside Kurt Nogan and David Nugent - obnoxious and always likely to score against us. Smug git who “quite likes a scruffy 1 : 0”

dermotdermot · Post by **dermotdermot** » Mon Dec 28, 2020 3:09 am

cricketfieldclarets wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 27, 2020 10:57 pm
He was actually complimentary of us.

No he wasn’t. He had a little dig on purpose. Smug little ******. I was indifferent to him but, after that, I don’t like him one bit.

Taffy on the wing · Post by **Taffy on the wing** » Mon Dec 28, 2020 4:07 am

Wellsy1882 wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 27, 2020 7:04 pm
Better than Barnes

Nice cast!

Taffy on the wing · Post by **Taffy on the wing** » Mon Dec 28, 2020 4:13 am

Untinted Glasses wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 27, 2020 9:34 pm
He is better than what we have imo , as is Vydra

AHHA......The great Vydra!.......Just slamming in the goals, every chance he gets.
If only Sean Dyche could see,.. with untinted glasses... We'd be top of the league!

ClaretMov · Post by **ClaretMov** » Mon Dec 28, 2020 7:33 am

What's he done at the top level......NOTHING

Top Claret · Post by **Top Claret** » Mon Dec 28, 2020 8:14 am

I wouldn't swap Bamford for Wood or Barnes.

Bamford would be in his car by now in floods of tears with the lack of service our front two get

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Mon Dec 28, 2020 8:31 am

Very strange, in that he scores goals, but the stats show he misses a hell of a lot more, which supports the theory that Leeds create an awful lot of chances for him.

Looking at it coldly I prefer our 4 strikers, even though they're blowing cold at the moment. Most strikers have a quiet spell, what's hurting us is that they've hit it at the same time, normally one or the other would be carrying the team.

Untinted Glasses · Post by **Untinted Glasses** » Mon Dec 28, 2020 8:33 am

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 27, 2020 10:01 pm
Super Frank Lampard's Chelsea reject Bamford is approx 120 PL appearances behind journeyman 350K Ashley Barnes - Bamford has a long way to go, you don't play nearly 170 games in the PL as a striker if you are crap

He’s obviously a good player however people are talking relatively. It’s like when audley Harrison was “****” etc , in a ring hed smash you to bits but for the level he was at is the level he’s judged by

If you had 100 million for a striker you wouldn’t go and buy Barnes would you ? Infact he would be one of the last players you’d buy. So infact at premier league level he is a bit **** ain’t he . I actually really like him , his attitude and all that , but by premier league standard he is a bit **** . Rather the same as Jeff Hendrick .

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Mon Dec 28, 2020 9:14 am

ClaretMov wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 28, 2020 7:33 am
What's he done at the top level......NOTHING

Well hit ten goals already this season for a start.

dougcollins · Post by **dougcollins** » Mon Dec 28, 2020 9:24 am

I'd be much happier if Wood had hit 10 this season.

Boss Hogg · Post by **Boss Hogg** » Mon Dec 28, 2020 9:26 am

He still wouldn’t fit into our team and the way we play but Leeds’ style suits his game. I’m definitely of the view we need a new striker though in addition to improving the supply from midfield. Wood and Jay Rod don’t look like scoring in a month of Sundays at the moment.

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Mon Dec 28, 2020 10:08 am

Boss Hogg wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 28, 2020 9:26 am
He still wouldn’t fit into our team and the way we play but Leeds’ style suits his game. I’m definitely of the view we need a new striker though in addition to improving the supply from midfield. Wood and Jay Rod don’t look like scoring in a month of Sundays at the moment.

Wood has gone a whole one game without scoring.

beddie · Post by **beddie** » Mon Dec 28, 2020 10:24 am

No, our style of play doesn't suit Bamford, he's a perfect fit for Leeds. It's a shame Ollie Watkins at Villa was out of our pricing as he'd be perfect,think he'll do really well in the Prem, anyway, he probably has too much pace for us.

Quicknick · Post by **Quicknick** » Mon Dec 28, 2020 1:35 pm

When Bamford stops scoring, and he will, Leeds will struggle.

Jakubclaret · Post by **Jakubclaret** » Mon Dec 28, 2020 1:54 pm

Blackburn_Claret wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 27, 2020 9:53 pm
Hes a lot better than we have. Offered little? He won and scored the penalty that won the game.

Without a shadow, the people that say we don’t suit his style are quite correct we don’t we play a different way but it wouldn’t take much tinkering for him & us to adapt, any player can adapt & adjust just takes time, bamford could be a foil behind a targetman for the flicks & knockdowns, he’s more than capable for playing for anybody in this league even the top four although I wouldn’t have him down as a starter.

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Mon Dec 28, 2020 2:34 pm

Jakubclaret wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 28, 2020 1:54 pm
Without a shadow, the people that say we don’t suit his style are quite correct we don’t we play a different way but it wouldn’t take much tinkering for him & us to adapt, any player can adapt & adjust just takes time, bamford could be a foil behind a targetman for the flicks & knockdowns, he’s more than capable for playing for anybody in this league even the top four although I wouldn’t have him down as a starter.

His conversion rate of 30% would suggest the top sides wouldn't touch him. We would never adapt our style to such an extent where we can create enough chances for him to miss that many and not cost us. Even Leeds fans question him, and ask where they could be with a striker with a 60% strike rate.
He's had a solid start, we won't know if he is good enough until we can look back in 2 years time. I think Bamford will be back in the Championship by then. Just a gut feeling, time will tell.

Untinted Glasses · Post by **Untinted Glasses** » Mon Dec 28, 2020 2:37 pm

Colburn_Claret wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 28, 2020 2:34 pm
His conversion rate of 30% would suggest the top sides wouldn't touch him. We would never adapt our style to such an extent where we can create enough chances for him to miss that many and not cost us. Even Leeds fans question him, and ask where they could be with a striker with a 60% strike rate.
He's had a solid start, we won't know if he is good enough until we can look back in 2 years time. I think Bamford will be back in the Championship by then. Just a gut feeling, time will tell.

“Yawn”

I hate judgement off stats, just use your own judgement

Bigvince · Post by **Bigvince** » Mon Dec 28, 2020 2:40 pm

Wellsy1882 wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 27, 2020 7:04 pm
Better than Barnes

Ashley will be pleased you’ve said that, because you’re usually wrong!

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Mon Dec 28, 2020 3:11 pm

Untinted Glasses wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 28, 2020 2:37 pm
“Yawn”

I hate judgement off stats, just use your own judgement

The stats confirm my own judgement, one shared by many Leeds fans. Besides, surely scoring 10 goals is a stat.

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Mon Dec 28, 2020 3:25 pm

10 goals from 15 Premier League games! The most by a player for a newly promoted club at this stage of a season since 99/00. Surely he can't be that bad to reach them figures

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Mon Dec 28, 2020 3:31 pm

Also getting himself in a lot of scoring positions which alongside actually scoring goals is another sign of a good striker. If you need it serving up on a plate for you then you're always gonna have periods where you and the club you play for struggle for goals

Wood and Bamford could be a great strike partnership for both us and Leeds as are both very good players who I think would compliment one another