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Re: Pope

Post by bfcjg » Thu Mar 25, 2021 9:06 pm

Popes used to this though, playing behind 10 players with excellent ball retention,touch,technique and dominant possession.👍
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Re: Pope

Post by Zlatan » Thu Mar 25, 2021 9:15 pm

bfcjg wrote:
Thu Mar 25, 2021 9:06 pm
Popes used to this though, playing behind 10 players with excellent ball retention,touch,technique and dominant possession.👍
Yeah but don’t forget he can’t kick it
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Re: Pope

Post by elwaclaret » Thu Mar 25, 2021 9:33 pm

Cannot help laughing at Lee Dixon (?)and the other guy talking about England winning the championship... when did England last look good against a top team... while you can only beat them in front of you, let’s remember it’s San Marino

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Re: Pope

Post by Buxtonclaret » Thu Mar 25, 2021 9:35 pm

Well done, Nick.
Never put a foot wrong all through. ;)

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Re: Pope

Post by Zlatan » Thu Mar 25, 2021 9:35 pm

Another clean sheet for Pope

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Re: Pope

Post by Zlatan » Thu Mar 25, 2021 9:36 pm

We’ll have to start calling him Persil Pope with all these clean sheets
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Re: Pope

Post by Buxtonclaret » Thu Mar 25, 2021 9:39 pm

Zlatan wrote:
Thu Mar 25, 2021 9:35 pm
Another clean sheet for Pope
Not only that, he could have become the first England keeper to put a hammock up between the posts & watched the game on his phone.
Nobody would have noticed. :lol:
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Re: Pope

Post by tiger76 » Thu Mar 25, 2021 9:39 pm

elwaclaret wrote:
Thu Mar 25, 2021 9:33 pm
Cannot help laughing at Lee Dixon (?)and the other guy talking about England winning the championship... when did England last look good against a top team... while you can only beat them in front of you, let’s remember it’s San Marino
I'm baffled why England are favourites for the Euro's, there's several teams I'd fancy above them this summer, Belgium, France, Germany, Italy and Portugal to name just a few, and I honestly can't see England beating any of those in a major tournament,

Pope got his expected clean sheet anyway, now we'll have to wait and see if he keeps his place.

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Re: Pope

Post by Bigvince » Thu Mar 25, 2021 9:40 pm

I have this funny feeling that Southgate will play Henderson in the next game, hoping he’ll have much more to do than Nick, who was basically a spectator this evening. Giving Henderson a chance to impress!

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Re: Pope

Post by tiger76 » Thu Mar 25, 2021 9:45 pm

Bigvince wrote:
Thu Mar 25, 2021 9:40 pm
I have this funny feeling that Southgate will play Henderson in the next game, hoping he’ll have much more to do than Nick, who was basically a spectator this evening. Giving Henderson a chance to impress!
You may well be right, I don't know how good Albania are, but they won away from home tonight, and whoever is in goal will surely have more to do than Nick did tonight.

The real test for England in this round of games is obviously Poland, Lewandowski and Co will really give England's defenders a tough evening.

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Re: Pope

Post by ten bellies » Thu Mar 25, 2021 9:46 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Thu Mar 25, 2021 8:42 pm
Please dont quote me in future
That's a very poor effort.

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Re: Pope

Post by huw.Y.WattfromWare » Thu Mar 25, 2021 9:49 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Thu Mar 25, 2021 9:39 pm
I'm baffled why England are favourites for the Euro's.
Because Englishmen with more money than sense back them. Bets dictate the odds ergo favourites.
If you check the odds in foreign markets I’d be shocked if we were in the top 5.

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Re: Pope

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Thu Mar 25, 2021 9:53 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Thu Mar 25, 2021 9:39 pm
I'm baffled why England are favourites for the Euro's, there's several teams I'd fancy above them this summer, Belgium, France, Germany, Italy and Portugal to name just a few, and I honestly can't see England beating any of those in a major tournament,

Pope got his expected clean sheet anyway, now we'll have to wait and see if he keeps his place.
England arguably have the best the squad, for me I just don’t think tactically have the ability to win it.

Belgium arnt the same force they were at the last World Cup.
France have an incredible squad will most likely reach the final if not win it.
Germany, young squad but some very decent players.
Italy, not sure they are going to do much pretty average squad these days.
Portugal are my dark horses, they have some really good players in that squad

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Re: Pope

Post by claretblue » Thu Mar 25, 2021 9:58 pm

Zlatan wrote:
Thu Mar 25, 2021 9:36 pm
We’ll have to start calling him Persil Pope with all these clean sheets
Daz Bentley wouldn't agree! :?

:D
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Re: Pope

Post by nyclaret » Thu Mar 25, 2021 9:59 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Thu Mar 25, 2021 9:53 pm
England arguably have the best the squad, for me I just don’t think tactically have the ability to win it.

Belgium arnt the same force they were at the last World Cup.
France have an incredible squad will most likely reach the final if not win it.
Germany, young squad but some very decent players.
Italy, not sure they are going to do much pretty average squad these days.
Portugal are my dark horses, they have some really good players in that squad
England do not have the best squad. As Barney Ronay quite rightly points out in his article yesterday: England have young players who will surely reach a high level. Foden may already be there. But it is worth bearing in mind only 13 of 26 players in Southgate’s current squad played in this season’s Champions League. None of them have won it. Nineteen – nineteen! – have never won a major trophy. Compare this with 20 current Champions League players in Germany’s squad, including seven from last season’s winners.

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Re: Pope

Post by Devils_Advocate » Thu Mar 25, 2021 10:02 pm

nyclaret wrote:
Thu Mar 25, 2021 9:59 pm
England do not have the best squad. As Barney Ronay quite rightly points out in his article yesterday: England have young players who will surely reach a high level. Foden may already be there. But it is worth bearing in mind only 13 of 26 players in Southgate’s current squad played in this season’s Champions League. None of them have won it. Nineteen – nineteen! – have never won a major trophy. Compare this with 20 current Champions League players in Germany’s squad, including seven from last season’s winners.
Just highlights how good a job Southgate is doing with only a half decent set of players to pick from

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Re: Pope

Post by diamondpocket » Thu Mar 25, 2021 10:08 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Thu Mar 25, 2021 9:53 pm
England arguably have the best the squad, for me I just don’t think tactically have the ability to win it.

Belgium arnt the same force they were at the last World Cup.
France have an incredible squad will most likely reach the final if not win it.
Germany, young squad but some very decent players.
Italy, not sure they are going to do much pretty average squad these days.
Portugal are my dark horses, they have some really good players in that squad
If Italy can keep everyone fit they've got a very good squad. A bit light up top but quality midfield & defence and an excellent manager who has turned them round in 2 years. I'm following them closely. The Euros should be good to see how far they've progressed since not qualifying for the WC a few years ago.

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Re: Pope

Post by Quickenthetempo » Thu Mar 25, 2021 10:47 pm

If I was a manager and could pick any squad to manage in the Euros it would be England.

We won't win it because Southgate is a class C manager who has lost his bottle.
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Re: Pope

Post by IanMcL » Thu Mar 25, 2021 10:47 pm

Scotland recovered ok.

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Re: Pope

Post by Rowls » Thu Mar 25, 2021 10:51 pm

Good ol' Sconny Botland recovering from behind twice with cultured Grant Hanley to thank ;P

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Re: Pope

Post by IanMcL » Thu Mar 25, 2021 10:52 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Thu Mar 25, 2021 10:47 pm
If I was a manager and could pick any squad to manage in the Euros it would be England.

We won't win it because Southgate is a class C manager who has lost his bottle.
He swallowed the youth thing and will always fail, as a result, when experienced hardened internationals gobble up his boys.

Response..."Although we did not progress as far as we would like, these young players have gained a lot. during the tournament, which will stand them and us in good stead, going forward ".

The new group of youngsters do the same next time and the statement is repeated.
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Re: Pope

Post by Vegas Claret » Fri Mar 26, 2021 12:15 am

I didn't even know England were playing tonight

Southgate out

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Re: Pope

Post by California Colner » Fri Mar 26, 2021 3:36 am

Sky Sports England player ratings gave Pope N/A
Nothing but a spectator in the game
Could have least gave him 1 just for playing 😂

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Re: Pope

Post by Woodleyclaret » Fri Mar 26, 2021 6:14 am

Mings showed his class ballooning a header when in a good scoring opportunity then mugging a San Marino player to earn the games only booking.He is a weak link making Maguire look pure class in comparison but another media pick which will be England's undoing.We dont play our best performers just the ones the pundits fancy.

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Re: Pope

Post by Socrates » Fri Mar 26, 2021 6:21 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Thu Mar 25, 2021 9:53 pm
England arguably have the best the squad
You know Kalvin Phillips and Connor Coady have started our last few games, right?

We have a massive, massive gulf of quality in the middle of the park.
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Re: Pope

Post by Guitargeorge » Fri Mar 26, 2021 6:21 am

We should sign their keeper, then we could have three internationals playing at the same time

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Re: Pope

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Fri Mar 26, 2021 9:20 am

Socrates wrote:
Fri Mar 26, 2021 6:21 am
You know Kalvin Phillips and Connor Coady have started our last few games, right?

We have a massive, massive gulf of quality in the middle of the park.
I don’t agree let’s be honest when everyone is fit and we are not playing pointless games they will barely feature. a Euros squad midfield of Rice, Foden, Grealish, Bellingham, Henderson, Phillips
With the potential inclusion of Alli, Lingard etc.. is actually a pretty awesome group of players to select from.


I still think CB is not as bad as people make out.

Stone and Maguire will be the back two and they are both arguably in the top 10-15 CBS in world football right now.
You then have back up CBS like coady and Mings that can do a job

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Re: Pope

Post by Steve1956 » Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:05 am

Anybody keep count of the times Pope touched the ball last night,did it even get into double figures,why do they still have these mismatched games...how we didnt score double figures really is a mystery.

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Re: Pope

Post by SalisburyClaret » Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:09 am

I kept count of the number of times Stones passed the ball backwards or square in the 1st half - 13 - against one of the weakest teams in the world.

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Re: Pope

Post by Steve1956 » Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:14 am

SalisburyClaret wrote:
Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:09 am
I kept count of the number of times Stones passed the ball backwards or square in the 1st half - 13 - against one of the weakest teams in the world.
Everyone is following Pep's method's like sheep it wins them games but is absolutely mind numbing to watch,even San Marino tried to play out from the back....and f****d it up mind,boring boring boring.

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Re: Pope

Post by Steve1956 » Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:18 am

SalisburyClaret wrote:
Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:09 am
I kept count of the number of times Stones passed the ball backwards or square in the 1st half - 13 - against one of the weakest teams in the world.
Correction...the weakest team in the World.🙄
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Re: Pope

Post by bobinho » Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:49 am

SalisburyClaret wrote:
Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:09 am
I kept count of the number of times Stones passed the ball backwards or square in the 1st half - 13 - against one of the weakest teams in the world.
There will be a stat somewhere in the media today that states he’s the best passer of the ball in the squad because of this. Won’t tell the full story tho will it?

It’s why I’m not really a fan of “stats”.
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Re: Pope

Post by WiscoClaret » Fri Mar 26, 2021 12:21 pm

bobinho wrote:
Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:49 am
There will be a stat somewhere in the media today that states he’s the best passer of the ball in the squad because of this. Won’t tell the full story tho will it?

It’s why I’m not really a fan of “stats”.
It really depends if the statisticians want to tell the whole truth. Most folks keeping stats today differentiate between forward and progressive passes vs. back passes vs. passes in and into the opponents final third or passes in their own half. I like stats for that reason.
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Re: Pope

Post by ClaretGent » Fri Mar 26, 2021 1:21 pm

Steve1956 wrote:
Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:05 am
Anybody keep count of the times Pope touched the ball last night,did it even get into double figures,why do they still have these mismatched games...how we didnt score double figures really is a mystery.
I counted 3 touches in the first half :shock:

I don't think he touched the ball at all in the second half (though I did look away for a moment and might have missed a touch)

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Re: Pope

Post by Steve1956 » Fri Mar 26, 2021 1:25 pm

ClaretGent wrote:
Fri Mar 26, 2021 1:21 pm
I counted 3 touches in the first half :shock:

I don't think he touched the ball at all in the second half (though I did look away for a moment and might have missed a touch)
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Re: Pope

Post by MT03ALG » Fri Mar 26, 2021 5:49 pm

Nick Pope, 5 games for England and 0 goals conceded - is that correct ?

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Re: Pope

Post by IanMcL » Fri Mar 26, 2021 11:54 pm

Southgate confirms Pope plays the matches, in short arms absence. Henderson disappointed!
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Re: Pope

Post by huw.Y.WattfromWare » Sat Mar 27, 2021 8:18 am

Sarfgate confirms Nick starts next two matches.

https://www.skysports.com/share/12257920
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Re: Pope

Post by Devils_Advocate » Sat Mar 27, 2021 9:16 am

England fans choose their official starting line up for the Euro's. A bit harsh on Pickford but to be fair to the fans it looks pretty spot on to me

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Re: Pope

Post by bfcjg » Sat Mar 27, 2021 9:18 am

The same Sarfgate who has said he already knows his starting 11 for the Euros, a real motivation for the fringe players, he really is a tool.

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Re: Pope

Post by Paul Waine » Sat Mar 27, 2021 9:40 am

IanMcL wrote:
Fri Mar 26, 2021 11:54 pm
Southgate confirms Pope plays the matches, in short arms absence. Henderson disappointed!
The Times Sport (print edition) quotes Southgate saying good things about Nick Pope. I can't find it in the on-line edition, otherwise I'd copy/paste here.

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Re: Pope

Post by Paul Waine » Sat Mar 27, 2021 9:44 am

Steve1956 wrote:
Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:05 am
Anybody keep count of the times Pope touched the ball last night,did it even get into double figures, why do they still have these mismatched games...how we didnt score double figures really is a mystery.
Friday's Times quoted 5 touches - none when he came forward out of his area.

ITV mentioned Nick wanting to "join in" at one of the corners towards the end of the game. Did anyone see if he got beyond half way?

Playing again against Albania and Poland. Gareth Southgate says this was always the plan.

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Re: Pope

Post by Devils_Advocate » Sat Mar 27, 2021 9:51 am

Does anyone think Southgate is going to play Pope in all the games in the hope he will make a mistake to justify bringing Pickford back?

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Re: Pope

Post by matttheclaret » Sat Mar 27, 2021 10:49 am

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Sat Mar 27, 2021 9:16 am
England fans choose their official starting line up for the Euro's. A bit harsh on Pickford but to be fair to the fans it looks pretty spot on to me

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Not a million miles away, Pope in goal though and Rashford and Alexander Arnold would be lucky to play. I'd have Trippier and either Sancho or Grealish in for them

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Re: Pope

Post by Steve1956 » Sat Mar 27, 2021 10:54 am

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Sat Mar 27, 2021 9:51 am
Does anyone think Southgate is going to play Pope in all the games in the hope he will make a mistake to justify bringing Pickford back?
Is Southgate that clever?...i think not.

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Re: Pope

Post by Steve1956 » Sat Mar 27, 2021 10:59 am

matttheclaret wrote:
Sat Mar 27, 2021 10:49 am
Not a million miles away, Pope in goal though and Rashford and Alexander Arnold would be lucky to play. I'd have Trippier and either Sancho or Grealish in for them
What has Henderson done exactly? Pickford is in front of him and so is Pope.....i play for Man Utd....I'm magnificent syndrome. :roll:

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Re: Pope

Post by Devils_Advocate » Sat Mar 27, 2021 11:03 am

Steve1956 wrote:
Sat Mar 27, 2021 10:54 am
Is Southgate that clever?...i think not.
Maybe but I got the impression off this forum he employs a Director for anti-Burnley strategies

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Re: Pope

Post by Devils_Advocate » Sat Mar 27, 2021 11:06 am

matttheclaret wrote:
Sat Mar 27, 2021 10:49 am
Not a million miles away, Pope in goal though and Rashford and Alexander Arnold would be lucky to play. I'd have Trippier and either Sancho or Grealish in for them
Trippier sent me a Whatsapp telling me to stick a tenner on him not starting so cant see him being first choice.

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Re: Pope

Post by tiger76 » Sat Mar 27, 2021 11:09 am

bfcjg wrote:
Sat Mar 27, 2021 9:18 am
The same Sarfgate who has said he already knows his starting 11 for the Euros, a real motivation for the fringe players, he really is a tool.
Gareth is bonkers stating this info, even if he does know his preferred starting XI, why broadcast that fact to the media and the players.

Firstly you never know what will happen with injuries and loss of form, and secondly he should be dangling the carrot of a starting place to all the squad.

In my view the only players nailed on to start if fit are the following, Kane, Jordan Henderson, Shaw, Stones, for me every other spot is up for grabs.

And if GS already knows his starting XI what is the point of even having a squad, the guy's crackers and he'll hopefully be shown up for the fraud he is this summer, he got lucky in 2018, and yet still couldn't even reach the final, he won't get lucky in the Euro's, and I'll be pleasantly surprised if England get as far as the quarter-final stage.

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Re: Pope

Post by Elizabeth » Sat Mar 27, 2021 11:28 am

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Sat Mar 27, 2021 9:51 am
Does anyone think Southgate is going to play Pope in all the games in the hope he will make a mistake to justify bringing Pickford back?
No just you making things up because you are bored
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