Nick Pope England Record

[Kitch1966]

Sorry if this has already been posted but just reading the BBC Sport latest and it states that if Nick Pope manages to keep a clean sheet against Albania tomorrow he will be the first England keeper to keep 6 clean sheets in his first 6 appearances. Good stuff Nick lad and the very best of luck. UTC !

[tiger76]

Sorry if this has already been posted but just reading the BBC Sport latest and it states that if Nick Pope manages to keep a clean sheet against Albania tomorrow he will be the first England keeper to keep 6 clean sheets in his first 6 appearances. Good stuff Nick lad and the very best of luck. UTC !

You've blooming jinxed him now obviously most folks will know he's kept 5 successive clean sheets for the national team, but I wasn't aware he could make history tomorrow.

Best of luck Nick you deserve all you get after narrowly missing out on the GG last term.

[Bin Ont Turf]

Who are the teams he's played against?

[Devils_Advocate]

San Marino
Kosovo
Wales
Ireland (45 mins)
Czech Republic (25 mins)

[Rileybobs]

Apparently Southgate is considering substituting him at the first stoppage in play to ensure that he achieves this historic accolade.

[Bin Ont Turf]

Not as poor as I thought it might have been.

I could have kept goal against San Marino, but it's great that a Burnley goalkeeper will hold the record (hopefully).

[Clarets4me]

So what we're saying is that Nick Pope has played his first 5hrs 40mins of International Football without conceding ....
Has any other England Goalkeeper matched or exceeded this time-span ?

Jack Yates of Burnley holds the England goal-scoring record in terms of goals per game, at 3. He shares this with four other men, all of whom scored a hat-trick on debut, and who were never selected again ...

[Clarets4me]

So that's 7 hours and 10 minutes of Pope's International Career without conceding a goal ...

[tim_noone]

So that's 7 hours and 10 minutes of Pope's International Career without conceding a goal ...

Posters are falling over themselves.....they eagerly await him conceding.

[Rileybobs]

Posters are falling over themselves.....they eagerly await him conceding.

Why would any Burnley fan want Pope to concede? Total rubbish.

[boatshed bill]

Any other England goalkeeper and I'd have loved to see Albania score and make a game of it late on

[tim_noone]

Why would any Burnley fan want Pope to concede? Total rubbish.

I said Posters....

[IanMcL]

Pope is invincible.

[Bosscat]

I said Posters....

You mean some who post on here are not true Burnley fans TimBobbins

[tim_noone]

You mean some who post on here are not true Burnley fans TimBobbins

I'm sorry I was discussing the England Game and Nick Pope as an England Player.....and another Clean Sheet.

[Devils_Advocate]

A lot of credit has to go to Southgate for creating such a strong winning England team for Pope to play in.

[Steve1956]

6 clean sheets in 6 games only this man would consider bringing Pickford back

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[Clarets4me]

Pope is invincible.

Don't you mean " infallible " ?

[what_no_pies]

Divine

[what_no_pies]

#Popeoursaver

[bfcmik]

In reality he has not yet even played 5 full games for England. So calling it 6 games is a bit of creative counting. How many of those who managed 5 caps before conceding would have made a couple of further matches before conceding if they could have been subbed on for the 2nd half or after 65 minutes without affecting future outfield subs?

[superdimitri]

He did his best to gift Albania one today by kicking it straight at their striker. His kicking worries me more for England than it does for Burnley because you know he'll try to play it shorter. For us at least he is safe knowing he doesn't have to pass out from the back.

[Newcastleclaret93]

He did his best to gift Albania one today by kicking it straight at their striker. His kicking worries me more for England than it does for Burnley because you know he'll try to play it shorter. For us at least he is safe knowing he doesn't have to pass out from the back.

Must admit I thought Pope was poor last night. Put the team under pressure with his poor passing. Not sure how England would get on against better opposition if they try to play out from the back with Pope

[joey13]

Genuine question, how many saves has he made ?

[wilks_bfc]

Genuine question, how many saves has he made ?

According to FotMob, 5

[Hipper]

He did his best to gift Albania one today by kicking it straight at their striker. His kicking worries me more for England than it does for Burnley because you know he'll try to play it shorter. For us at least he is safe knowing he doesn't have to pass out from the back.

Agree with the first sentence. However it was interesting to see that he did a couple of long kicks forward which with a bit more luck could have led to England goals. I don't think Albania - or perhaps most international sides - expect that sort of thing so why could it not be used as an alternative method of attack for England?

[Stanbill05]

I think the kicking is a significant issue unfortunately. His footwork can generate panic at the back and affects defenders decision making, which is far from ideal at that level. Whether his command of the box and shot stopping is sufficiently better than the other options to make that tolerable, time will tell, but I think he could do with a good game against Poland to showcase his real strengths...

[houseboy]

Agree with the first sentence. However it was interesting to see that he did a couple of long kicks forward which with a bit more luck could have led to England goals. I don't think Albania - or perhaps most international sides - expect that sort of thing so why could it not be used as an alternative method of attack for England?

Because to the alleged ‘purists’ these days you shouldn’t actually play the ball TOWARD your opponents goal, you should play it sideways to give your opponents ample opportunity to organise their defence. Playing out from the back also gives the opponent chance to benefit from any poor passing that may result in a goal for them (Arsenal gifting us a goal at the Turf recently being a brilliant example). Playing this way then gives pundits the chance to say, when a ball is played direct, ‘that was a brilliant, incisive pass’, unless it’s Burnley then it’s ‘the long ball anti football’ game.
For some odd reason these days it seems that there is only one acceptable way to play football despite ‘not playing right’ having been pretty damn useful for us. Odd but I remember (and I’m sure a lot on here will) the days when playing as they do today brought the sarcastic chant of the bored football fan ‘square, square, back, back, square.
It must be just a fashion thing.

[claretonthecoast1882]

Lewandowski out of England game

[Newcastleclaret93]

Sky sports have said:

I have been told that If Pope wants the England number 1 shirt he needs to leave Burnley this summer.

[Steve1956]

Sky sports have said:

I have been told that If Pope wants the England number 1 shirt he needs to leave Burnley this summer.

Who told you that?

Gareth?

[Newcastleclaret93]

Who told you that?

Gareth?

I was quoting what Rob Dorset the journalist just said on Sky Sports News

[Steve1956]

I was quoting what Rob Dorset the journalist just said on Sky Sports News

Did Gareth tell him then?

[Bigvince]

Sky sports have said:

I have been told that If Pope wants the England number 1 shirt he needs to leave Burnley this summer.

Did he specify where he needs to go when he leaves!

[houseboy]

So Rob Dorset thinks he should leave Burnley to enhance his England chances then? So a journo making a statement becomes a ‘he must’? Presumably that means what...to one of the ‘big six’ (who old Rob wouldn’t promote to enhance all the best players at the biggest clubs to make the PL look better because he works for...hold on..Sky...his employer)? Or did he mean just anyone as long as it isn’t Burnley?
Any Burnley fan over 10 knows the media have spent countless happy hours selling our players for us so it shouldn’t come as any surprise that another hack is at it.

[NewClaret]

Just had a little look on SkySports and there's no mention of this. In fact, the football headline is Keane saying that Kane needs to leave Spurs, which ironically may be linked because it could give them some money to buy Pope (otherwise I can't see that they have the money).

I don't think there is anything in it at all. Arguably, playing for Burnley plays to Pope's strengths as he's regularly in the game. He's also well protected.

Anyway - would be great for Southgate and Pope to be questioned about this. Would love Popey to issue a straight denial and shut this hack up.

[Devils_Advocate]

Does anyone know who's record Pope broke yesterday?

[Hibsclaret]

There’s always someone needing to move somewhere to win trophies or enhance international chances etc. The best place for Nick is a place where he is playing at the top level and keeping clean sheets. Based on that he’s in the right place. If it’s to win trophies why go to Spurs given that Kane should leave there to win trophies.

[Hipper]

Just had a little look on SkySports and there's no mention of this. In fact, the football headline is Keane saying that Kane needs to leave Spurs, which ironically may be linked because it could give them some money to buy Pope (otherwise I can't see that they have the money).

I don't think there is anything in it at all. Arguably, playing for Burnley plays to Pope's strengths as he's regularly in the game. He's also well protected.

Anyway - would be great for Southgate and Pope to be questioned about this. Would love Popey to issue a straight denial and shut this hack up.

Perhaps it will be a straight swop, but Kane will have top bide his time on the bench for a while.

[Zlatan]

Does anyone know who's record Pope broke yesterday?

Chris Wood

[Hibsclaret]

It’s Woods

[Devils_Advocate]

Chris Wood

Ok the game England conceded in early in his career he wasnt on the pitch. He did have a bloody good start with just one goal conceded (against Spain) in over 12 hours. If Pope gets the nod for the Euros then no chance he'll keep up with that.

Edit: Just had a look and it was his 13th game before he conceded a second goal

[IanMcL]

Don't you mean " infallible " ?

No invincible!

[superdimitri]

Agree with the first sentence. However it was interesting to see that he did a couple of long kicks forward which with a bit more luck could have led to England goals. I don't think Albania - or perhaps most international sides - expect that sort of thing so why could it not be used as an alternative method of attack for England?

He kicked it reasonably short to Kane, and it was a good pass. I think he had one other kick that he kicked to one of them and another where he kicked it out.

Against better opposition England just can't rely on passing back to him if Southgate insists he wants Pope to play it short all the time. Players need to be told to just kick it out if under pressure and don't play risky balls back to the goalkeeper.

Change of tactics is needed to fit Pope in to the team, it will be worth it because he's the best goalkeeper.

If Southgate doesn't let him whack it up top under pressure he will make a mistake that will cost us, and its just stupid when you know how much better Pope is at goalkeeping compared to players like Pickford. I think you have to play to your strengths, if it means fielding Kane and Calvert-Lewin up to top to win headers so be it.

[Hipper]

He did at least one good thing in the Albania game - he came for a cross and clattered Maguire!

[CrosspoolClarets]

I’m probably in a minority but I think that Rob Dorsett (Sky) is right with what he is saying.

Right, as in Southgate believes that, but Southgate is wrong.

After a tough year, do any of us want those palpitations that come when balls are swung into England’s box by the big sides, with Pickford underneath them?

If Pickford’s worse at dominating his area, and worse at shot stopping, surely those are more important than retaining possession? The worst thing is when we have penalty area chaos when a keeper hasn’t claimed the ball. That’s where goals come from. That, and breaks past the defence like Albania had. Few gave Pope credit for standing tall and encouraging the scoop over the bar. Many keepers would have crouched low waiting for the low shot, but we know Pope stands high and saves with his feet if necessary. I think that surprised the Albanian.

I also thought the incident with McGuire was telling. The player was backing towards his own goal seeming like he knew his keeper wouldn’t claim it. Perfect evidence of a central defender worrying about his keeper (in the moment, McGuire would have forgotten it was Pope, he is used to Pickford).

So, sadly, I predict a usual England exit. Something will happen. We just don’t know what.

[Hipper]

I also thought the incident with McGuire was telling. The player was backing towards his own goal seeming like he knew his keeper wouldn’t claim it. Perfect evidence of a central defender worrying about his keeper (in the moment, McGuire would have forgotten it was Pope, he is used to Pickford).

So, sadly, I predict a usual England exit. Something will happen. We just don’t know what.

I thought it showed misunderstanding between the two, something that should have been ironed out in training.

I agree with others though that if England insist on playing this way against all opposition, good or bad, then Pope is not the keeper for England (this is not a reflection Pope's goalkeeping ability just his skills as an outfield player). Either Southgate changes the way they play or uses a more suitable goalkeeper.

[Zlatan]

Some utter garbage posted on here. The keeper's primary job is to stop the ball going in the net - Pope is far superior to any others in this respect - all other arguments are secondary (albeit not insignificant I agree).

I read somewhere recently (Twitter probably) that (Brazilian) Ronaldo was told he was overweight by his new manager and he argued he's there to score goals, not run about - and he played and scored twice.

It is about time we had a national team manager who played the best players to their own strengths instead of trying to emulate the best approach from club football. The England national team is crying out for swift counter attacking football ala Leicester City in their Championship season - we are not Spain or Brazil or Germany for that matter - our top players still haven't achieved that level of composure even after years of academies etc - it will come though and when it does we can play tippy-tappy round the back. Until it comes, play the best players to their strengths.

[Rileybobs]

Some utter garbage posted on here. The keeper's primary job is to stop the ball going in the net - Pope is far superior to any others in this respect - all other arguments are secondary (albeit not insignificant I agree).

I read somewhere recently (Twitter probably) that (Brazilian) Ronaldo was told he was overweight by his new manager and he argued he's there to score goals, not run about - and he played and scored twice.

It is about time we had a national team manager who played the best players to their own strengths instead of trying to emulate the best approach from club football. The England national team is crying out for swift counter attacking football ala Leicester City in their Championship season - we are not Spain or Brazil or Germany for that matter - our top players still haven't achieved that level of composure even after years of academies etc - it will come though and when it does we can play tippy-tappy round the back. Until it comes, play the best players to their strengths.

With respect it is utter garbage to suggest that the keeper’s primary job is his only job. Ronaldo wouldn’t get very far with that attitude today as most forwards in world football, with the exception of the very best few, are expected to do more than just score goals.

Do you expect international full backs to be able to join in the attack and provide assists? After all, their primary job is to defend.

[BurnleyFC]

With respect it is utter garbage to suggest that the keeper’s primary job is his only job. Ronaldo wouldn’t get very far with that attitude today as most forwards in world football, with the exception of the very best few, are expected to do more than just score goals.

Do you expect international full backs to be able to join in the attack and provide assists? After all, their primary job is to defend.

Any other position on the pitch then I’d be inclined to agree with you, just not when it comes goalkeepers.