Would you take Jack Wilshere in the summer?

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Would you take Jack Wilshere in the summer?

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sat Apr 24, 2021 8:34 pm

I watched the Bournemouth game today and thought Jack Wilshere looked lively.

Would anyone take him on a free transfer this summer. He could be our Defour, he clearly has the technical ability it’s just whether we can keep him fit.

Rumoured to be on 30k a week now. So well within our price range. Think it could be a risk worth taking on that weekly wage.

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Re: Would you take Jack Wilshere in the summer?

Post by joey13 » Sat Apr 24, 2021 8:42 pm

No

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Re: Would you take Jack Wilshere in the summer?

Post by Transpennine » Sat Apr 24, 2021 8:45 pm

Didn't we nearly sign him in Jan 2010 before Coyle took him to Bolton. If we did sign him now, then it would prove Owen correct about Bolton being 10 years ahead of us...

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Re: Would you take Jack Wilshere in the summer?

Post by Downhamclaret » Sat Apr 24, 2021 8:46 pm

No

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Re: Would you take Jack Wilshere in the summer?

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sat Apr 24, 2021 8:48 pm

Transpennine wrote:
Sat Apr 24, 2021 8:45 pm
Didn't we nearly sign him in Jan 2010 before Coyle took him to Bolton. If we did sign him now, then it would prove Owen correct about Bolton being 10 years ahead of us...
Tony might be able to confirm but think he had broken into the arsenal first time by then.

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Re: Would you take Jack Wilshere in the summer?

Post by evensteadiereddie » Sat Apr 24, 2021 8:49 pm

No, we need to look at younger, up and coming talent.

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Re: Would you take Jack Wilshere in the summer?

Post by Herts Clarets » Sat Apr 24, 2021 8:49 pm

No.
Nay.
Never.
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Re: Would you take Jack Wilshere in the summer?

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sat Apr 24, 2021 8:50 pm

evensteadiereddie wrote:
Sat Apr 24, 2021 8:49 pm
No, we need to look at younger, up and coming talent.
I understand that sentiment but do you not think we need players for the first team now?
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Re: Would you take Jack Wilshere in the summer?

Post by Transpennine » Sat Apr 24, 2021 9:00 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sat Apr 24, 2021 8:48 pm
Tony might be able to confirm but think he had broken into the arsenal first time by then.
Yes possibly, but didn't he still go on loan to Bolton at that time; allegedly instead of us..?

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Re: Would you take Jack Wilshere in the summer?

Post by BurnleyFC » Sat Apr 24, 2021 9:00 pm

If, and it’s a huge if, he can stay fit, he’s a couple of levels above the centre midfielders we currently have in a technical sense.

I suspect he wouldn’t be interested in the slightest, though and is happy picking up his nice wage in the south coast sunshine.
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Re: Would you take Jack Wilshere in the summer?

Post by Woodleyclaret » Sat Apr 24, 2021 9:02 pm

Never

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Re: Would you take Jack Wilshere in the summer?

Post by tiger76 » Sat Apr 24, 2021 9:03 pm

Nope we've already got enough crocks with Brady and JBG, we're hopefully getting rid of Brady soon, so the last thing we need is another injury prone star creaming big money from our club and contributing the square root of sod all.
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Re: Would you take Jack Wilshere in the summer?

Post by Grumps » Sat Apr 24, 2021 9:04 pm

Transpennine wrote:
Sat Apr 24, 2021 9:00 pm
Yes possibly, but didn't he still go on loan to Bolton at that time; allegedly instead of us..?
Him, holden and the winger from City, yep

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Re: Would you take Jack Wilshere in the summer?

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sat Apr 24, 2021 9:12 pm

BurnleyFC wrote:
Sat Apr 24, 2021 9:00 pm
If, and it’s a huge if, he can stay fit, he’s a couple of levels above the centre midfielders we currently have in a technical sense.

I suspect he wouldn’t be interested in the slightest, though and is happy picking up his nice wage in the south coast sunshine.
He’s a free agent in a few weeks. On a relatively low wage at 30k. I just think we are not going to get a player of his ability unless he comes with a bit of baggage (like Defour).

At 30k a week or 1.5m a season I think this could be a deal worth looking into.

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Re: Would you take Jack Wilshere in the summer?

Post by MACCA » Sat Apr 24, 2021 9:47 pm

Tricky one, on one hand he can keep the physio busy and he is cheap, but on the other he is a bit too young and likes a pass, so taking the latter into consideration it has to be a no.

Be better getting Joe Allen in, or extend Stephen's contract for 2 more years.

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Re: Would you take Jack Wilshere in the summer?

Post by Herts Clarets » Sat Apr 24, 2021 9:51 pm

The only way I would take him is on a pay per play deal. Out injured? That's ok, you get paid nowt. If he is on 30k a week he would cost us about 300k a year.

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Re: Would you take Jack Wilshere in the summer?

Post by CnBtruntru » Sat Apr 24, 2021 9:57 pm

Noooo too old to much a sick note, we have enough of them.

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Re: Would you take Jack Wilshere in the summer?

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sat Apr 24, 2021 10:04 pm

Herts Clarets wrote:
Sat Apr 24, 2021 9:51 pm
The only way I would take him is on a pay per play deal. Out injured? That's ok, you get paid nowt. If he is on 30k a week he would cost us about 300k a year.
It would cost 1.5m per season.

A lot of money but if we can get 20 games out of him I think it would be worth it.

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Re: Would you take Jack Wilshere in the summer?

Post by djemba-djemba » Sat Apr 24, 2021 10:04 pm

Imagine finally getting Brady off the wage bill to then bring this jester in!
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Re: Would you take Jack Wilshere in the summer?

Post by wilks_bfc » Sat Apr 24, 2021 10:07 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sat Apr 24, 2021 10:04 pm
It would cost 1.5m per season.

A lot of money but if we can get 20 games out of him I think it would be worth it.
I think Herts meant it would be £300k as a “pay as you play”

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Re: Would you take Jack Wilshere in the summer?

Post by beddie » Sat Apr 24, 2021 10:19 pm

I wouldn't want him even if he came for no wages. I really hope we steer well clear of him.
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Re: Would you take Jack Wilshere in the summer?

Post by boatshed bill » Sat Apr 24, 2021 10:19 pm

No, I'll stick with the Mrs.

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Re: Would you take Jack Wilshere in the summer?

Post by ClaretTony » Sat Apr 24, 2021 10:39 pm

Transpennine wrote:
Sat Apr 24, 2021 8:45 pm
Didn't we nearly sign him in Jan 2010 before Coyle took him to Bolton. If we did sign him now, then it would prove Owen correct about Bolton being 10 years ahead of us...
All been agreed with Arsenal, he was coming on loan. We'd also got Stuart Holden, he was actually sat in the dug out at MK for the cup tie.


Would I sign him now? Good player no doubt but too often injured. You'd probably be more likely to get run of games from Robbie Brady.

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Re: Would you take Jack Wilshere in the summer?

Post by Rowls » Sat Apr 24, 2021 10:40 pm

No.

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Re: Would you take Jack Wilshere in the summer?

Post by bfcjg » Sat Apr 24, 2021 11:16 pm

Perhaps the OP should have started with where; in which case Burnley general urgent care.

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Re: Would you take Jack Wilshere in the summer?

Post by CharlieinNewMexico » Sat Apr 24, 2021 11:20 pm

To be fair he hasn’t been injured since he joined Bournemouth. They always sub him off around the 70. He’s got better as his fitness came back and they’ve had a good string of results. Still only 1 goal and 1 assist in 8 starts and a few sub appearances. If he continues to improve as he regains fitness, it’s a no brainer for me. $30k and no transfer fee for that kind of player we have to be interested.

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Re: Would you take Jack Wilshere in the summer?

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sat Apr 24, 2021 11:23 pm

Yet to finish 90 mins in the league for Bournemouth.

Of the 20 league games Bournemouth have played since he signed, he's only started 8, and come on as a sub in 5, stayed on the bench as an unused sub for 6.
He's even managed to fit in a one game suspension....

Played a total of 630mins out of a potential 1800 mins.
Scored 1 goal and has 1 assist.

If that was any other player they wouldn't even be getting looked at by people on here.
We should be looking elsewhere.
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Re: Would you take Jack Wilshere in the summer?

Post by tarkys_ears » Sat Apr 24, 2021 11:39 pm

I wouldn't have taken Jack Whilshere for free, with no wages 10 years ago.

As for suggesting he's on 30k a week... have a word with yourself!

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Re: Would you take Jack Wilshere in the summer?

Post by jdrobbo » Sat Apr 24, 2021 11:44 pm

Absolutely the wrong type of signing. Far too risky

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Re: Would you take Jack Wilshere in the summer?

Post by Burnley1989 » Sat Apr 24, 2021 11:55 pm

So many brain dead comments on this thread

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Re: Would you take Jack Wilshere in the summer?

Post by Burnley1989 » Sat Apr 24, 2021 11:56 pm

tarkys_ears wrote:
Sat Apr 24, 2021 11:39 pm
I wouldn't have taken Jack Whilshere for free, with no wages 10 years ago.

As for suggesting he's on 30k a week... have a word with yourself!
Give over.... ridiculous

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Re: Would you take Jack Wilshere in the summer?

Post by tarkys_ears » Sun Apr 25, 2021 12:06 am

Burnley1989 wrote:
Sat Apr 24, 2021 11:56 pm
Give over.... ridiculous
ok love

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Re: Would you take Jack Wilshere in the summer?

Post by Cheshireclaret » Sun Apr 25, 2021 12:32 am

I would indeed take Wilshere in the summer. I’d take him anywhere he wished to go, with the express understanding it was nowhere near our club.

Judas did indeed agree to sign him and Holden, plus I think the winger he took to Bolton from City was Weiss, although I’ve no idea if he was ever intended for Turf Moor. By then we’d bedded in Fernando Guerrero (he was that superb he was still avoiding anything approaching a foul towards the prophecy that he’d be the most fouled player in The Premier League) and Frederic Nimani (who was about as mobile as a 3-piece suite and must still thank his lucky stars he won that raffle!)
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Re: Would you take Jack Wilshere in the summer?

Post by elwaclaret » Sun Apr 25, 2021 12:40 am

I think if we could get him on a free with a pay as you play it would still be a superb to see a player of that quality. A bit of a maverick as a kid which never went well at Arses from Charlie George’s day, and the injuries but his ability is still there for our players to be around that in training would be worth the wage I would have thought.

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Re: Would you take Jack Wilshere in the summer?

Post by KRBFC » Sun Apr 25, 2021 1:07 am

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Sat Apr 24, 2021 11:23 pm
Yet to finish 90 mins in the league for Bournemouth.

Of the 20 league games Bournemouth have played since he signed, he's only started 8, and come on as a sub in 5, stayed on the bench as an unused sub for 6.
He's even managed to fit in a one game suspension....

Played a total of 630mins out of a potential 1800 mins.
Scored 1 goal and has 1 assist.

If that was any other player they wouldn't even be getting looked at by people on here.
We should be looking elsewhere.
Looks like they're easing him back in, good management. I certainly didn't expect him to play 90 minutes every week from day 1. I also wouldn't look at the goals/assists stats, he's never ever been that type of player to make those stats hold any weight.

As for signing him, it would depend entirely on what the professionals here say about his body, I don't know how likely he is to breakdown again, are Bournemouth not playing him 90 each week because his body will never get back to that? idk

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Re: Would you take Jack Wilshere in the summer?

Post by CharlieinNewMexico » Sun Apr 25, 2021 6:05 am

KRBFC wrote:
Sun Apr 25, 2021 1:07 am
Looks like they're easing him back in, good management. I certainly didn't expect him to play 90 minutes every week from day 1. I also wouldn't look at the goals/assists stats, he's never ever been that type of player to make those stats hold any weight.

As for signing him, it would depend entirely on what the professionals here say about his body, I don't know how likely he is to breakdown again, are Bournemouth not playing him 90 each week because his body will never get back to that? idk
Blimey. I have krbfc on foe and I just happen to click to read what he says and it makes sense!!! 😱😱😱

Seems like a classic Defour punt to me. We would never normally get a chance at a player like this so if the economics fit into place why not?

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Re: Would you take Jack Wilshere in the summer?

Post by IWOODLOVETT » Sun Apr 25, 2021 7:22 am

Unlike Defour, who was pushing for a recall to the Belgium national team during his first season with us, Wilshere has no footballing ambition - other than for regular games for a decent wage.
Therefore it all comes down to lifestyle. Bournemouth can match our wage structure (especially if promoted) and is in easy reach of London. JW seems settled there and seems to have conquered some of his demons, so he can pick and choose his next move.
Burnley or Bournemouth. ??? You decide.

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Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sun Apr 25, 2021 7:39 am

KRBFC wrote:
Sun Apr 25, 2021 1:07 am
Looks like they're easing him back in, good management. I certainly didn't expect him to play 90 minutes every week from day 1. I also wouldn't look at the goals/assists stats, he's never ever been that type of player to make those stats hold any weight.

As for signing him, it would depend entirely on what the professionals here say about his body, I don't know how likely he is to breakdown again, are Bournemouth not playing him 90 each week because his body will never get back to that? idk
People complain that we don't get enough goals or assists from our 3 central midfielders who're 100% match fit.
There is honestly no point in signing Wilshere if he isn't going to make a significant change to that.
He isn't running the show at championship level, it ain't gonna happen in the PL.

Like I said, if it was any other championship player with that amount of game time, they wouldn't even be getting a mention.
There's this thing about Wilshere that causes people to get excited about him, but if we are all honest, he's not going to pull up any trees for us.
If he was, he'd still be in the PL...
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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Apr 25, 2021 8:14 am

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Sun Apr 25, 2021 7:39 am
People complain that we don't get enough goals or assists from our 3 central midfielders who're 100% match fit.
There is honestly no point in signing Wilshere if he isn't going to make a significant change to that.
He isn't running the show at championship level, it ain't gonna happen in the PL.

Like I said, if it was any other championship player with that amount of game time, they wouldn't even be getting a mention.
There's this thing about Wilshere that causes people to get excited about him, but if we are all honest, he's not going to pull up any trees for us.
If he was, he'd still be in the PL...
Totally understand your thoughts on this. I think the only reason it gets discussed is because he was a fantastic player and technically still has a lot of ability.

I brought it up because I just can’t see where else we would get a player of his quality in our budget.

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Post by Im_not_Robbie_Blake » Sun Apr 25, 2021 8:33 am

Of course not

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Post by CharlieinNewMexico » Sun Apr 25, 2021 8:37 am

IWOODLOVETT wrote:
Sun Apr 25, 2021 7:22 am
Unlike Defour, who was pushing for a recall to the Belgium national team during his first season with us, Wilshere has no footballing ambition - other than for regular games for a decent wage.
Therefore it all comes down to lifestyle. Bournemouth can match our wage structure (especially if promoted) and is in easy reach of London. JW seems settled there and seems to have conquered some of his demons, so he can pick and choose his next move.
Burnley or Bournemouth. ??? You decide.
Honestly think he’ll leave Bournemouth because someone (palace? Watford? Villa?) will stump up 60k on a free to have him there. I’d give him a good shout personally but I think his agent will get him back in the prem.

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Re: Would you take Jack Wilshere in the summer?

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sun Apr 25, 2021 8:51 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sun Apr 25, 2021 8:14 am
Totally understand your thoughts on this. I think the only reason it gets discussed is because he was a fantastic player and technically still has a lot of ability.

I brought it up because I just can’t see where else we would get a player of his quality in our budget.
He has plenty of ability, but how often is he in the news for dominating a game, or for having a great season?
He isn't..

People get all misty eyed about the Barca game and use it as a benchmark of what he can do, but I can't recall him coming close to that level again.

It would be a waste of our budget quite frankly, to sign a player who isn't going to give us enough.

People called out Hendrick regularly but at least he was able to play on demand for 90 mins.

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Re: Would you take Jack Wilshere in the summer?

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Apr 25, 2021 9:08 am

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Sun Apr 25, 2021 8:51 am
He has plenty of ability, but how often is he in the news for dominating a game, or for having a great season?
He isn't..

People get all misty eyed about the Barca game and use it as a benchmark of what he can do, but I can't recall him coming close to that level again.

It would be a waste of our budget quite frankly, to sign a player who isn't going to give us enough.

People called out Hendrick regularly but at least he was able to play on demand for 90 mins.
I think you could argue something similar with Defour, think he only managed something like 70 minutes the entire 2016 season before signing for us.

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Re: Would you take Jack Wilshere in the summer?

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sun Apr 25, 2021 9:47 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sun Apr 25, 2021 9:08 am
I think you could argue something similar with Defour, think he only managed something like 70 minutes the entire 2016 season before signing for us.
He'd proven his quality though in the years preceding that.

Title winner in 2 countries for example.
Many more appearances than Wilshere.

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Re: Would you take Jack Wilshere in the summer?

Post by Conroy92 » Sun Apr 25, 2021 10:48 am

We'll probably end up spending more on Dale Stephens than Wilshire despite Wilshire being a better player. I also think Wilshire would feature more.
Don't let that detract from the "not good enough and wouldn't play enough arguments" though.

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Re: Would you take Jack Wilshere in the summer?

Post by Buxtonclaret » Sun Apr 25, 2021 11:39 am

He's good enough, just doesn't seem to be fit enough for long enough.
We've had our fair share of this.
Prefer to take a punt on a couple of lower league younger players.

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Re: Would you take Jack Wilshere in the summer?

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Thu May 27, 2021 9:36 am

No surprise to see Bournemouth have binned him

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Re: Would you take Jack Wilshere in the summer?

Post by Stayingup » Thu May 27, 2021 9:52 am

We have enough crocks on the books as it is now.

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Re: Would you take Jack Wilshere in the summer?

Post by Spijed » Thu May 27, 2021 10:23 am

There's no doubt that when he fully fit he's an incredibly talented player.

Trouble is he's hardly ever fit.

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Re: Would you take Jack Wilshere in the summer?

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Thu May 27, 2021 10:28 am

I'd like to raise the point that the OP has absolutely no time for Brownhill, who's growing nicely into a PL player for us, but was seriously considering signing Wilshere who can't even complete 90 mins regularly and has utterly failed to tear apart the league below.
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