Any TV experts?

[Firthy]

I'm after a 32" TV that will accept a 1080p signal rather than a 1080i signal. Most 32" HD TV's are called 1080p because of their resolution but most only work with 1080i input signals. Does anyone know a 32" Full HD TV that will work with a 1080p signal or how I can find one. Thanks in advance for your help.

[Bosscat]

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[clarethomer]

Not sure how you tell - that suggests 1080p signal?

Will this do it?

https://ao.com/product/kdl32wd751bu-son ... 0-108.aspx

https://www.sony.co.uk/electronics/supp ... s/00031431

[Firthy]

Google

Just googled what you asked and theres loads ... don't be lazy do your own work

Helps if you know what you're talking about before you reply to a thread. As I explained all Full HD Tv's are described as 1080p but most will only work with a 1080i signal not a 1080p signal.

[Bosscat]

Helps if you know what you're talking about before you reply to a thread. As I explained all Full HD Tv's are described as 1080p but most will only work with a 1080i signal not a 1080p signal.

Lighten up ffs ... if you see clarethomer's reply he points out exactly what I said...

[Firthy]

I'm light enough just non the wiser

[Whitgord]

Just out of interest, why do you need 1080p on a 32” screen? Maybe for gaming? I just think on such a small screen 1080i would look just as good.

[Firthy]

Just out of interest, why do you need 1080p on a 32” screen? Maybe for gaming? I just think on such a small screen 1080i would look just as good.

I have a 4k splitter which outputs my Sky to three TV's. Two of the TV's are 4k and I set my Sky to 4k resolution. The splitter can downscale individual outputs to 1080 for my 32" Tv but it only outputs 1080p signal so my HD TV gets no signal as it only works with 1080i. Only option at present is to change resolution on Sky to 1080i when I want to watch it.

[aggi]

I suspect your issue may be something different, 1080p is pretty much the standard, even for 32" TVs.

If you really are struggling then get a 32" monitor, that will almost certainly cope.

[barba]

I'm after a 32" TV that will accept a 1080p signal rather than a 1080i signal. Most 32" HD TV's are called 1080p because of their resolution but most only work with 1080i input signals. Does anyone know a 32" Full HD TV that will work with a 1080p signal or how I can find one. Thanks in advance for your help.

Superdimitri is one person who can definitely give you advice. I think he's an admin on a TV forum and gave me some great advice when I was upgrading.

[superdimitri]

Last I checked LG were still making a 1080p 32" model, Samsung maybe too. But as people have said already above, on a 32" screen unless its used for up-close desk usage you aren't going to really benefit from 1080p vs 720p. Every 32" model today will accept 1080p, even if its a 720p native panel.

EDIT* here's a link the LG in question:
https://pricespy.co.uk/audio-video/tvs/ ... --p5093271

[Firthy]

Last I checked LG were still making a 1080p 32" model, Samsung maybe too. But as people have said already above, on a 32" screen unless its used for up-close desk usage you aren't going to really benefit from 1080p vs 720p. Every 32" model today will accept 1080p, even if its a 720p native panel.

EDIT* here's a link the LG in question:
https://pricespy.co.uk/audio-video/tvs/ ... --p5093271

There are plenty of 32" 1080p TV's still available but the 1080p just means that the image displayed is equivalent to 1080p of 1920 x 1080. There is two ways of doing this, 1080i which stands for 1080 interlaced and the TV upscales to 1080p resolution or 1080p which stands for progressive scan and doesn't need upscaling. It is the way the 1080 signal is delivered, most HD TV's use 1080i and upscale but are still described as 1080p.

The difference in picture quality is negligible but I don't want it for that reason. I want a 32" TV that will accept a 1080p signal as well 1080i so I don't have to keep changing the resolution output on my Sky Q box. My splitter downscales to 1080p not 1080i. Even on the specs it doesn't say what signal it works with which is why I'm asking the question.

[Zlatan]

Wouldn’t it be easier and cheaper to get multiroom if it’s for Sky?

[Clarets4me]

If you ring Harry Garlick's , I'm sure they could help with your technical points, and you could buy from and support a local firm ....

[Billy Balfour]

Last I checked LG were still making a 1080p 32" model

I apologise to the OP for hijacking the thread.

SuperDimitri, we've recently ditched Sky, and I'm after a couple of satellite HD PVR boxes. What's the best on the market at the moment? Cheers.

[Firthy]

Don't need or want multiroom, monthly cost and no 4k. Can't use Harry Garlick as I live on the Isle of Man. I can watch Sky on my HD TV if I change Sky resolution to 1080i after watching 4k content on other TV's. Just wanted to avoid changing resolution.

[Devils_Advocate]

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[Firthy]

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Thanks for your input, most helpful

[superdimitri]

There are plenty of 32" 1080p TV's still available but the 1080p just means that the image displayed is equivalent to 1080p of 1920 x 1080. There is two ways of doing this, 1080i which stands for 1080 interlaced and the TV upscales to 1080p resolution or 1080p which stands for progressive scan and doesn't need upscaling. It is the way the 1080 signal is delivered, most HD TV's use 1080i and upscale but are still described as 1080p.

The difference in picture quality is negligible but I don't want it for that reason. I want a 32" TV that will accept a 1080p signal as well 1080i so I don't have to keep changing the resolution output on my Sky Q box. My splitter downscales to 1080p not 1080i. Even on the specs it doesn't say what signal it works with which is why I'm asking the question.

This isn't true, the output is always 1080p on a 1080p TV. The input can be anything it wants to be, but 1080p is the end product. Any TV will accept a 1080p signal now, even ones that can only output 720p. They just take the signal and downscale it. In the case of broadcast TV which is commonly 1080i a 720p TV is actually no worse than a 1080p one since each interlaced frame represents half a progressive frame. On a 32" TV there's a host of 720p models still because it really shouldn't matter on such a small TV.

But basically, any TV you buy now, even a 720p one will do what you want...but since you'll be delivering 1080p you may as well get a 1080p TV.

I apologise to the OP for hijacking the thread.

SuperDimitri, we've recently ditched Sky, and I'm after a couple of satellite HD PVR boxes. What's the best on the market at the moment? Cheers.

Freesat is struggling a bit as a whole, Humax used to make some really cool boxes but they are out of date now and slow. Probably your best bet is the official Freesat branded box by Arris. You can see more here: https://www.avforums.com/threads/which- ... x.2346757/

Worth noting that if you have a smart TV and get one with a Freesat tuner built in you could do away with recording completely and just use catchup TV.

There's some downsides, such as no HD a lot of the time, and certain programming (like MOTD) not coming on iPlayer until Monday usually but it might be worth doing to simplify your setup.

[Zlatan]

Freesat is struggling a bit as a whole, Humax used to make some really cool boxes but they are out of date now and slow. Probably your best bet is the official Freesat branded box by Arris. You can see more here: https://www.avforums.com/threads/which- ... x.2346757/

Worth noting that if you have a smart TV and get one with a Freesat tuner built in you could do away with recording completely and just use catchup TV.

There's some downsides, such as no HD a lot of the time, and certain programming (like MOTD) not coming on iPlayer until Monday usually but it might be worth doing to simplify your setup.

My 2 year old Sony has Freesat (dua tuner) built in, and the facility to plug in a hard disk to record to which overcomes the MOTD scenario. It has other issues though relating to the EPG configuration etc, won’t go into detail here as I just wanted to highlight that many TVs also have HDD recording capability too

[superdimitri]

My 2 year old Sony has Freesat (dua tuner) built in, and the facility to plug in a hard disk to record to which overcomes the MOTD scenario. It has other issues though relating to the EPG configuration etc, won’t go into detail here as I just wanted to highlight that many TVs also have HDD recording capability too

Indeed they do, albeit usually only with a single tuner of each type so you can only record when not watching, or record only 1 item concurrently with no overlaps (for late shows etc). Can be a bit clunky since it's usually an afterthought but might be good enough for someone looking to move to mainly catch-up TV. My old TV had recording which got me excited at the time.. only later for me to realise scheduling a recording was based on old fashioned timers - you know, the kind of timers you used to set before VHS players had the video plus codes.

Nowadays TVs are a bit better but I wouldn't bet on series record or auto record adjustment features being there.

I think Sony and Samsung still do some mid to high end TVs with two tuners of each type but usually it's only the more expensive TVs.

[Firthy]

This isn't true, the output is always 1080p on a 1080p TV. The input can be anything it wants to be, but 1080p is the end product. Any TV will accept a 1080p signal now, even ones that can only output 720p. They just take the signal and downscale it. In the case of broadcast TV which is commonly 1080i a 720p TV is actually no worse than a 1080p one since each interlaced frame represents half a progressive frame. On a 32" TV there's a host of 720p models still because it really shouldn't matter on such a small TV.

But basically, any TV you buy now, even a 720p one will do what you want...but since you'll be delivering 1080p you may as well get a 1080p TV.

So why does my 18 month old 32" Samsung Full HD 1080p TV only work when I set the Sky output to 1080i but no signal received when I set the output to 1080p. It's not the splitter or Sky Q box because the two 4k TV's work on both settings. I contacted Samsung and they confirmed that even though the TV is described as 1080p it only works with a 1080i signal which is why I know all TV's don't accept 1080p input

So yes I agree they all output a 1080p picture but this doesn't mean that they are compatible with a 1080p input signal as many upscale from a 1080i signal but still classed as 1080p. Unfortunately the specs don't show what input signals they are compatible with.

[superdimitri]

So why does my 18 month old 32" Samsung Full HD 1080p TV only work when I set the Sky output to 1080i but no signal received when I set the output to 1080p. It's not the splitter or Sky Q box because the two 4k TV's work on both settings. I contacted Samsung and they confirmed that even though the TV is described as 1080p it only works with a 1080i signal which is why I know all TV's don't accept 1080p

I'm not certain but if Samsung have told you your 1080p tv doesn't work with a 1080p signal that seems odd. I wouldn't really place much faith in their customer services knowledge but maybe it is an odball TV.

What model is the TV? I've owned TVs that are 15 years old and less than HD and accept a 1080p signal.

[djemba-djemba]

What’s Bosscat’s problem?

[Firthy]

I'm not certain but if Samsung have told you your 1080p tv doesn't work with a 1080p signal that seems odd. I wouldn't really place much faith in their customer services knowledge but maybe it is an odball TV.

What model is the TV? I've owned TVs that are 15 years old and less than HD and accept a 1080p signal.

Samsung T32E390SX 1080p

I've tried connecting the TV directly to the Sky Q box without the splitter and works fine when the Sky output is set to 1080i but all I get is no signal received when I set the Sky box to 1080p

I know it's not a case of no signal because both my 4k TV's work fine on both 1080i and 1080p

[Zlatan]

Samsung T32E390SX 1080p

I've tried connecting the TV directly to the Sky Q box without the splitter and works fine when the Sky output is set to 1080i but all I get is no signal received when I set the Sky box to 1080p

I know it's not a case of no signal because both my 4k TV's work fine on both 1080i and 1080p

Just found the manual for that TV and it refers to manually changing the input to match the signal recieved, are there any settings you need to check/change on the TV - perhaps the Auto option doesn’t do it right

https://manualsbrain.com/en/manuals/1748961/?page=165

[Billy Balfour]

Freesat is struggling a bit as a whole, Humax used to make some really cool boxes but they are out of date now and slow. Probably your best bet is the official Freesat branded box by Arris. You can see more here: https://www.avforums.com/threads/which- ... x.2346757/

Thanks for that. I'll look into getting a couple of Aris boxes. I remember when they were first announced a couple of years ago because I was looking into cancelling Sky at the time, but they (Sky) ended up making a decent offer. This time we have left for good. The dance you have to do every 12/18 months, in order to get a deal, has bored me silly over the years and I just can't be arsed any more. I didn't even ask for an offer this time. I phoned up and ditched them.

[Firthy]

Think it might be a fault with the TV. I set the splitter to throughput rather than downscale. Connected a 4k TV up and tried setting Sky Q output to 720, 1080i, 1080p and 2160 and it worked perefectly on all 4 resolutions so it's definitely not the splitter or length of the HDMI cable. I then tried my 32" TV in HDMI 1 and no signal received even at 720. Same with HDMI 3 no signal received even in 720. Connected back to HDMI 2 (ARC) and works with 720 and 1080i signals but not 1080p. According to the user manual it should work with 1080p signal so it looks like faults with the HDMI inputs. Not sure where or when I bought it and guessing it's out of warranty. Looks like keep changing resolution or try a new 32" TV.

[superdimitri]

Think it might be a fault with the TV. I set the splitter to throughput rather than downscale. Connected a 4k TV up and tried setting Sky Q output to 720, 1080i, 1080p and 2160 and it worked perefectly on all 4 resolutions so it's definitely not the splitter or length of the HDMI cable. I then tried my 32" TV in HDMI 1 and no signal received even at 720. Same with HDMI 3 no signal received even in 720. Connected back to HDMI 2 (ARC) and works with 720 and 1080i signals but not 1080p. According to the user manual it should work with 1080p signal so it looks like faults with the HDMI inputs. Not sure where or when I bought it and guessing it's out of warranty. Looks like keep changing resolution or try a new 32" TV.

It doesn't really help using your other TVs as a reference. The TV definitely should accept 1080p as it's listed as a supported resolution in the manual. Samsung just fobbed you off (never trust TV support staff)!

What I'd do is connect a different device to the TV like a laptop and see if 1080p works then.

It could be any one of the following:
Cable. - try different cable
Cable length too long. - test with short cable
HDCP mismatch. - test directly connected
Conflict between splitter and the TV. - test only with a direct connection.
Conflict between sky and the TV. - try different 1080p source device
Fault with TV or specific HDMI port. - Try different HDMI ports

Use process of elimination to break the fault down. Often with AV stuff it's not just one thing that's the problem, but a combination or unexplained mismatch between two things. The more you put in the chain such as HDMI distance, splitters etc the more there's to go wrong.

Already suggested above but try renaming/designating the HDMI input on the TV to PC mode or cable box sometimes that changes what the TV can accept signal wise.

Last resort. Factory reset TV.

If you don't get anywhere or find the TVs at fault, try another but buy one from somewhere with a good return policy so it it has the same issue you can return it no questions asked. Make sure you buy a TV and not a TV monitor like this TV. The Samsung you have doesn't follow the same product lines as their actual TVs and is more of a hybrid computer monitor.

Try testing with a different, short cable (move the TV closer to the source). Try a different device like a laptop to send 1080p. You'll soon know then where the problem is.