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Post by Woodleyclaret » Thu Jul 29, 2021 3:58 pm

Viera will be gone by Christmas, citing lack of spending by the board

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Post by Bigvince » Thu Jul 29, 2021 3:59 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 1:01 pm
Or the bookies are banking on lots of silly people who know sweet FA about football being daft enough to throw there money away ;)
99% of bookies customers are daft!

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Post by CharlieinNewMexico » Thu Jul 29, 2021 4:04 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 1:52 pm
People keep saying that but this season he was spot on with every single first team transfer.

First to report BPF to Wednesday, Collins to Burnley and Hennessey.
Nicolo Schira broke Hennessey. Nixon just followed along.
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Post by gandhisflipflop » Thu Jul 29, 2021 4:05 pm

Taffy on the wing wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 3:47 pm
This thread is like Groundhog Day without any humor….. Dross upon Dross.

Who cares about Crystal Palace!
We could make a film and call it 'Groundhog Window'

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Post by Spijed » Thu Jul 29, 2021 4:07 pm

Taffy on the wing wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 3:47 pm
This thread is like Groundhog Day without any humor….. Dross upon Dross.

Who cares about Crystal Palace!
Noticeable that those singing the praises of Crystal Palace were the same ones claiming other supporters were obsessed with Brighton.

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Post by ksrclaret » Thu Jul 29, 2021 4:19 pm

Taffy on the wing wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 3:47 pm
This thread is like Groundhog Day without any humor….. Dross upon Dross.

Who cares about Crystal Palace!
Groundhog day perfectly describes this thread.

Not because people are talking about Crystal Palace, though.

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Post by Selby Claret » Thu Jul 29, 2021 4:27 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 4:19 pm
Groundhog day perfectly describes this thread.

Not because people are talking about Crystal Palace, though.
Groundhog day perfectly describes this thread.

Not because people are talking about Crystal Palace, though.
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Post by Claret_tinted » Thu Jul 29, 2021 4:29 pm

Selby Claret wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 4:27 pm
Groundhog day perfectly describes this thread.

Not because people are talking about Crystal Palace, though.
Groundhog day perfectly describes this thread.

Not because people are talking about Crystal Palace, though.
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Post by Taffy on the wing » Thu Jul 29, 2021 4:35 pm

If he takes his head out of you know where.........he might get that!

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Post by ksrclaret » Thu Jul 29, 2021 4:35 pm

Can I have a like too please, Taffy? I think I deserve one.

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Post by Taffy on the wing » Thu Jul 29, 2021 4:35 pm

You would think that!

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Post by Paul Waine » Thu Jul 29, 2021 4:36 pm

Selby Claret wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 4:27 pm
Groundhog day perfectly describes this thread.

Not because people are talking about Crystal Palace, though.
Claret_tinted wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 4:29 pm
Groundhog day perfectly describes this thread.

Not because people are talking about Crystal Palace, though.
ksrclaret wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 4:19 pm
Groundhog day perfectly describes this thread.

Not because people are talking about Crystal Palace, though.
See what happens when you quote someone, quoting someone, quoting someone. ;)

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Post by ksrclaret » Thu Jul 29, 2021 4:36 pm

Taffy on the wing wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 4:35 pm
You would think that!
You big flirt

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Post by Jakubclaret » Thu Jul 29, 2021 4:46 pm

Spijed wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 4:07 pm
Noticeable that those singing the praises of Crystal Palace were the same ones claiming other supporters were obsessed with Brighton.
Coincidentally some of the same set also had Newcastle for the drop last season until about 10 games of the season left & I’d never seen minds change so fast, when Newcastle got a few of the big hitters firing & strung some decent results together as some posters wisely predicted what was bound to happen.

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Post by Spijed » Thu Jul 29, 2021 4:47 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 4:46 pm
Coincidentally some of the same set also had Newcastle for the drop last season until about 10 games of the season left & I’d never seen minds change so fast, when Newcastle got a few of the big hitters firing & strung some decent results together as some posters wisely predicted what was bound to happen.
Eh?

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Post by kentonclaret » Thu Jul 29, 2021 5:02 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 12:00 pm
Benteke - last season he had a purple patch and banged in 10 league goals, his best season since 2016/17, Viera really needs to ensure he can carry that on.

Burnley finished the season as one of the 3 lowest scoring teams in the PL along with Sheffield United and Fulham.

Almost totally reliant on Chris Wood for goals Sean Dyche has far more concerns at that end of the pitch than Viera as things stand at the moment, especially when our leading scorer could be missing for 6/8 weeks of the campaign.

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Post by Jakubclaret » Thu Jul 29, 2021 5:07 pm

Bigvince wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 3:59 pm
99% of bookies customers are daft!
99% of the customers won’t be backing palace or us to get relegated, lots of people will see palace with a new manager & effectively part of a new team & think relegation & back them to be relegated, well the same thing happened with FDB I think it took them ages to even win 1 & there was in a far worse position than they are now & still stopped up, parish would do the same thing & get rid of Vieira if the same thing was to happen again, like I say have a bet if you think it’s a good bet I’ll leave it alone.

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Post by Hedontplayforyou » Thu Jul 29, 2021 5:15 pm

Any of our in the know posters know if we are close to anyone?

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Post by Mattster » Thu Jul 29, 2021 5:18 pm

Long Time Lurker wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 1:34 pm

He normally plays CM when he turns out for the development squad, in what is commonly a five man midfield. In their games he has shown the same traits that he did against Blackpool, but he can be reliant on others to provide the raw physicality that he currently lacks.
U23s play a 442, same as the first team.

I wouldn't say Mancini is lacking in physicality compared to the other midfielders in the U23s, he's certainly no weaker than Benson and he's the more aggressive player of the two as well.

Could he hold his own in the EPL? It's hard to say until he's given a chance. He didn't look to struggle with the physicality against Blackpool or Oldham, and Neil Critchley commented on how the game was more competitive than an average friendly.

I'm not advocating he start or be a serious option for wide midfield though but I'd say he could take Benson's place in the squad. A loan at League 1 or Championship level would be ideal though.

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Post by kentonclaret » Thu Jul 29, 2021 5:26 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 5:07 pm
99% of the customers won’t be backing palace or us to get relegated, lots of people will see palace with a new manager & effectively part of a new team & think relegation & back them to be relegated, well the same thing happened with FDB I think it took them ages to even win 1 & there was in a far worse position than they are now & still stopped up, parish would do the same thing & get rid of Vieira if the same thing was to happen again, like I say have a bet if you think it’s a good bet I’ll leave it alone.
Burnley are currently disputing favouritism or outright favourites (depending on bookmaker) to finish 4th from bottom as happened last season.

The bookmakers therefore have us most at risk of dropping into the bottom 3 if one of the newly promoted sides exceeds market expectations.

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Post by DCWat » Thu Jul 29, 2021 5:48 pm

Perhaps more a sign of the times and the ridiculously huge fees for players…

Had I heard at the beginning of the window that we might spend £32 million on players in the summer, I’d have been delighted!

Would I be quite so delighted that the £32 million saw us bring in Maitland-Niles and Collins (plus a freebie keeper)? I’m not so sure.

To be fair, should Maitland-Niles sign for us, both may prove to be great additions. I suppose I might have expected a bit more for those sort of sums.

I really can’t see us improving other areas if we do spend that sort of money.

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Post by Firthy » Thu Jul 29, 2021 5:51 pm

Hedontplayforyou wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 5:15 pm
Any of our in the know posters know if we are close to anyone?
You can't know something if there is nothing to know 🤔🙄

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Post by jtv » Thu Jul 29, 2021 5:52 pm

I doubt that Messrs Pace and Dyche post on here

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Thu Jul 29, 2021 6:09 pm

Burnley are linked with Tanganga at Spurs I am assuming as the long term RB replacement

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Post by Murger » Thu Jul 29, 2021 6:15 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 6:09 pm
Burnley are linked with Tanganga at Spurs I am assuming as the long term RB replacement
Not a cat in hells chance.

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Post by Vegas Claret » Thu Jul 29, 2021 6:17 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 6:09 pm
Burnley are linked with Tanganga at Spurs I am assuming as the long term RB replacement
reported as only on loan though, you'd be off your head to join us on loan
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Post by warksclaret » Thu Jul 29, 2021 6:32 pm

With our history of giving loanees game time, it makes no sense in bringing in a loan RB where we have Lowton, Bardsley and potentially Collins already in that position

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Post by randomclaret2 » Thu Jul 29, 2021 6:35 pm

Benson has joined Barnsley

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Post by Shadybutt » Thu Jul 29, 2021 6:39 pm

Galatasaray have made a loan offer for Tanganga. Burnley and Southampton have previously shown interest if he becomes available.

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Post by NewClaret » Thu Jul 29, 2021 6:39 pm

CharlieinNewMexico wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 4:04 pm
Nicolo Schira broke Hennessey. Nixon just followed along.
Absolutely. Would have to dig through and can’t really be bothered but fairly sure an Irish journalist broke Collins initially and he’s just followed that on this summer and got lucky. Similar strategy with Worrall that hasn’t worked (yet).

Can’t remember the original BPF source but he then linked him to Bournemouth and Birmingham shortly before he signed for Wednesday. He clearly just hedges his bets.

The Albrighton & Cornet links looking tenuous also.

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Post by randomclaret2 » Thu Jul 29, 2021 6:52 pm

Roughly £10m in so far this summer from the sales of Gibson, Dunne and now Benson, with £12m or so out on Collins. ( Yes I am aware of payments made over time etc, etc; these are purely back of a fag packet numbers 😉 ) With nothing at all spent in January, are the new owners really only going to spend around £2m nett over their first 2 windows in charge ?

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Post by tiger76 » Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:11 pm

randomclaret2 wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 6:52 pm
Roughly £10m in so far this summer from the sales of Gibson, Dunne and now Benson, with £12m or so out on Collins. ( Yes I am aware of payments made over time etc, etc; these are purely back of a fag packet numbers 😉 ) With nothing at all spent in January, are the new owners really only going to spend around £2m nett over their first 2 windows in charge ?
You forget the wages saved on Brady & Gibson among others.

So to summarise

In

Collins.
Hennessey

Out

Benson (gone to Barnsley)
Brady (end of contract)
Dunne (ditto gone to QPR)
Gibson (gone to Norwich)
Plus BPF & Jensen the 2 keepers who've both gone out on loan.

I've omitted the development squad players as they are unlikely to feature in the 1st team next season.

So on permanent deals that's 4 left, and only 2 thus far joined, so unless we're planning to promote some of the youngsters there should be room for 2/3 more incomings for the 1st team squad surely, and we must have some wriggle room on salaries due to 2 of our higher earners leaving, if not then I truly fear it'll be a a long hard winter, and we are really playing Russian roulette with our hard earned PL place.

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Post by randomclaret2 » Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:13 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:11 pm
You forget the wages saved on Brady & Gibson among others.

So to summarise

In

Collins.
Hennessey

Out

Benson (gone to Barnsley)
Brady (end of contract)
Dunne (ditto gone to QPR)
Gibson (gone to Norwich)
Plus BPF & Jensen the 2 keepers who've both gone out on loan.

I've omitted the development squad players as they are unlikely to feature in the 1st team next season.

So on permanent deals that's 4 left, and only 2 thus far joined, so unless we're planning to promote some of the youngsters there should be room for 2/3 more incomings for the 1st team squad surely, and we must have some wriggle room on salaries due to 2 of our higher earners leaving, if not then I truly fear it'll be a a long hard winter, and we are really playing Russian roulette with our hard earned PL place.
I think we're broadly in agreement 😉

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Post by Elizabeth » Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:36 pm

There is absolutely nothing to suggest we are not going to bring in any more players and plenty of indications that we definitely are going to strengthen the squad
It’s simply a case of waiting to see who they are

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Post by NewClaret » Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:44 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:11 pm
and we must have some wriggle room on salaries due to 2 of our higher earners leaving, if not then I truly fear it'll be a a long hard winter, and we are really playing Russian roulette with our hard earned PL place.
Let’s not to forget we’ve lost: Heaton, Lennon, Hendrick, Hart as well as Gibson & Brady in recent years. Thats 6 high earners and from memory we’ve added BPF (now on loan), Norris, Brownhill & Stephens?

Might be a bit wrong on exact timing/numbers but I’d be more than shocked if we haven’t created more than a bit of wriggle room!!

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Post by NewClaret » Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:46 pm

warksclaret wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 6:32 pm
With our history of giving loanees game time, it makes no sense in bringing in a loan RB where we have Lowton, Bardsley and potentially Collins already in that position
Unless the Bardsley / WHU rumours are true? Personally would be very disappointed to lose a top pro, cover and reliable performer like Bardsley.

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Post by ClaretMov » Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:53 pm

randomclaret2 wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 6:52 pm
Roughly £10m in so far this summer from the sales of Gibson, Dunne and now Benson, with £12m or so out on Collins. ( Yes I am aware of payments made over time etc, etc; these are purely back of a fag packet numbers 😉 ) With nothing at all spent in January, are the new owners really only going to spend around £2m nett over their first 2 windows in charge ?
Don't forget the unexpected bonus of around 6 million we gained from Norwich and Watford coming back up
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Post by Hedontplayforyou » Thu Jul 29, 2021 8:00 pm

Maybe now our incoming targets will get more serious in terms of bids and the pace they go at, I can’t see anyone else leaving now from the first team , the only one would be Barnes for me if we got an offer for him which again is highly unlikely .

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Post by Jakubclaret » Thu Jul 29, 2021 8:10 pm

For balance talking about saved wages are we also allowed to include added incentives towards encouraging contractual extensions for the people that have decided to remain here or the money set aside for that, or is the simple picture being forget about that & that factor isn’t within any set budget.

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Post by tiger76 » Thu Jul 29, 2021 8:16 pm

Hedontplayforyou wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 8:00 pm
Maybe now our incoming targets will get more serious in terms of bids and the pace they go at, I can’t see anyone else leaving now from the first team , the only one would be Barnes for me if we got an offer for him which again is highly unlikely .
If we could get a younger striker in his place, whether that's by buying, or from the development squad, then he's one I'd consider trying to hawk to interested Championship clubs, he's definitely lost something in his game over the last 18 months, and I'm not convinced he'll ever command a regular place in our starting XI again, but if we can't replace him then we'd be daft to let him go, especially as Wood might miss a fair few games post-Xmas.

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Post by Chester Perry » Thu Jul 29, 2021 8:23 pm

ClaretMov wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:53 pm
Don't forget the unexpected bonus of around 6 million we gained from Norwich and Watford coming back up
£25m of that goes to grassroots football next season as part of the deal with the government to ignore copetition law on the roll over of the domestic TV deal for the next cycle

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Post by Long Time Lurker » Thu Jul 29, 2021 8:33 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:11 pm

So to summarise
Defour -> Drinkwater -> Brownhill

Vokes -> Crouch -> Rodriguez

Hendrick -> Stephens

Ward -> Pieters

Heaton -> Bailey Peacock-Farrell

Hart - > Hennessey

Anders Lindegaard -> Will Norris

Gibson -> Collins

Nahki Wells

Adam Legzdins

Aaron Lennon

Robbie Brady

The first thing that stands out is the reduction in quality and the second is the difference between the wages that were likely earned by those who have left and the wages the new arrivals could expect. For instance BPF shouldn't be earning the same as Heaton was and Hennessey could be expected to command less than Hart.

Taking that into account, along with the diminished overall numbers and it is hard to fathom why our wage bill is soaring ever skyward.

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Post by Long Time Lurker » Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:40 pm

Mattster wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 5:18 pm
U23s play a 442, same as the first team.
No, they don't. That might be because they lack numbers and depth in respect to strikers and wingers. Richardson is an attacking midfielder and the development squad play him as one. The main formation they used last year was 4-2-3-1 with a lot of traffic going through the middle.

The recruitment for the development squad is almost as shambolic as the recruitment for the first team. We have jettisoned a huge number of players and brought very few in.

Most of the players who were signed in response to the first big exodus in the 19/20 season were quickly shown the door the year after. Phillips and Mumbongo are the only notable survivors. Ogunby, Cooney, Senior, Kouame and Calderbank-Park have all gone.

Then we had another massive clear out in 20/21 and we brought in Taranis, Barrett, Richter, Elva-Fountaine and Diallo who have been let go. We kept hold of Rickard, Mancini, Nartey, Costello, Dodgson and Patterson.

How many of those will make the next cut ?

The retention is a lot better in the U18's, but we have only added 15 players over the last 3 seasons, mostly from other clubs. I'm guessing that Harry Moss and Trevon Bryan are the two AiScout candidates.

15 players sounds like a lot, but not when you take into account all of the players we have moved on and the fact that the U 18's have been used to fill the huge gaps left in the U 23's by all those who have left. And yet every season we have another massive cull, with a small number of new incomings. The problem is that we no longer have nobody left to move up into the U 23's and while the squad looks complete it doesn't give us much room to send players out on loan. To say nothing of the heightened injury risk of playing young boys against much older lads. The top teams can get away with that, because they have players with more technical ability, but when you depend on hard graft and a combative style of play the injuries are going to be more frequent.

Now, obviously, not everyone is going to work out. However, the short term revolving door pattern that we are seeing doesn't say a lot for our scouting and future planning. The quality appears to be a slightly better, because we seem to be signing a few cast offs from the big clubs. I'm guessing the thinking behind that is that if Leicester, Everton or Man Utd saw something in a young player they must have something and the time spent in their academies will have built on that.

It makes scouting easy, been with a big club, sign on here. However, we still need to bring in the numbers and those clubs didn't let them go because they were great players. They see them week in and week out so they rarely make mistakes. Dwight was one, but they released him very very early, by the age of 17-18 most clubs have a very good idea of who is worth keeping and who needs to be let go.

If we really want to develop Premier League or Championship players we can't just rely on the free scraps that fall from the tables of the other clubs. That isn't going to be enough to refresh an aging squad in the next 2-3 years and pay off our massive debts.

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:53 pm

Long Time Lurker wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:40 pm
No, they don't. That might be because they lack numbers and depth in respect to strikers and wingers. Richardson is an attacking midfielder and the development squad play him as one. The main formation they used last year was 4-2-3-1 with a lot of traffic going through the middle.

The recruitment for the development squad is almost as shambolic as the recruitment for the first team. We have jettisoned a huge number of players and brought very few in.

Most of the players who were signed in response to the first big exodus in the 19/20 season were quickly shown the door the year after. Phillips and Mumbongo are the only notable survivors. Ogunby, Cooney, Senior, Kouame and Calderbank-Park have all gone.

Then we had another massive clear out in 20/21 and we brought in Taranis, Barrett, Richter, Elva-Fountaine and Diallo who have been let go. We kept hold of Rickard, Mancini, Nartey, Costello, Dodgson and Patterson.

How many of those will make the next cut ?

The retention is a lot better in the U18's, but we have only added 15 players over the last 3 seasons, mostly from other clubs. I'm guessing that Harry Moss and Trevon Bryan are the two AiScout candidates.

15 players sounds like a lot, but not when you take into account all of the players we have moved on and the fact that the U 18's have been used to fill the huge gaps left in the U 23's by all those who have left. And yet every season we have another massive cull, with a small number of new incomings. The problem is that we no longer have nobody left to move up into the U 23's and while the squad looks complete it doesn't give us much room to send players out on loan. To say nothing of the heightened injury risk of playing young boys against much older lads. The top teams can get away with that, because they have players with more technical ability, but when you depend on hard graft and a combative style of play the injuries are going to be more frequent.

Now, obviously, not everyone is going to work out. However, the short term revolving door pattern that we are seeing doesn't say a lot for our scouting and future planning. The quality appears to be a slightly better, because we seem to be signing a few cast offs from the big clubs. I'm guessing the thinking behind that is that if Leicester, Everton or Man Utd saw something in a young player they must have something and the time spent in their academies will have built on that.

It makes scouting easy, been with a big club, sign on here. However, we still need to bring in the numbers and those clubs didn't let them go because they were great players. They see them week in and week out so they rarely make mistakes. Dwight was one, but they released him very very early, by the age of 17-18 most clubs have a very good idea of who is worth keeping and who needs to be let go.

If we really want to develop Premier League or Championship players we can't just rely on the free scraps that fall from the tables of the other clubs. That isn't going to be enough to refresh an aging squad in the next 2-3 years and pay off our massive debts.
Must admit LTL I have watched them a fair bit since the games were streamed. I can’t honestly say I have ever seen them play anything other than 442

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Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

Post by boatshed bill » Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:13 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:53 pm
Must admit LTL I have watched them a fair bit since the games were streamed. I can’t honestly say I have ever seen them play anything other than 442

They play an absolute 4-4-2.
Clone of the first team.
Richardson did play a couple of games in a deeper position though.

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Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

Post by Grumps » Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:27 pm

I think every Premier league team, has its junior teams playing as per the 1st team..... Doubt we're any different

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Post by boatshed bill » Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:32 pm

Grumps wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:27 pm
I think every Premier league team, has its junior teams playing as per the 1st team..... Doubt we're any different
I'm almost certain they do.

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Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

Post by KRBFC » Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:44 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 6:39 pm
Absolutely. Would have to dig through and can’t really be bothered but fairly sure an Irish journalist broke Collins initially and he’s just followed that on this summer and got lucky. Similar strategy with Worrall that hasn’t worked (yet).

Can’t remember the original BPF source but he then linked him to Bournemouth and Birmingham shortly before he signed for Wednesday. He clearly just hedges his bets.

The Albrighton & Cornet links looking tenuous also.
Let me guess Nixon blocked you on Twitter? :lol:

Nixon broke the Collins story in January, he said Bournemouth, Sheff Wed and Birmingham were either interested or in for BPF.

I don't know how you don't understand that reporting we are interested in signing Albrighton is different from saying Albrighton has signed for Burnley. He's mentioned we are interested in Albrighton and Cornet but we are struggling to fund the deals.

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Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

Post by Steddyman » Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:52 am

randomclaret2 wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 1:43 pm
He doesnt know....
You’re kidding right? Have you seen the grass, it’s looking lovely. Nixon spot on as always.

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Post by superdimitri » Fri Jul 30, 2021 2:52 am

I tried looking at an Arsenal forum to get their opinions on AMN. Those who had their head screwed on right mention 20m is a fair price and they are happy to sell for that money.
Some think he's bobbins. Some don't want to lose him.
Some think he's a right back, but apparently he personally prefers CM. They think we'll play him right midfield.

If he views himself as a central midfielder I'm not sure it's a good idea planning to play him out wide. Might be too similar to Brownhill or Hendrick playing there.

I'd prefer a natural winger, and don't like the idea of seeing Brownhill pushed out wide.

Since 20m is going to be such a large part of our budget I hope we get this one right.

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