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Post by beddie » Fri Jun 25, 2021 11:27 am

Crewe claret wrote:
Fri Jun 25, 2021 11:04 am
Villa could be awash with money ,could they come in for McNeil ?
With pleasure. It’ll be no less than £80m though.

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Post by mkmel » Fri Jun 25, 2021 11:28 am

Crewe claret wrote:
Fri Jun 25, 2021 11:04 am
Villa could be awash with money ,could they come in for McNeil ?
That's been a rumour for a while now

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Post by Hedontplayforyou » Fri Jun 25, 2021 11:33 am

£50m minimum for Dwight hes worth fortunes to us

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Post by Jakubs Tash » Fri Jun 25, 2021 11:46 am

Crewe claret wrote:
Fri Jun 25, 2021 11:04 am
Villa could be awash with money ,could they come in for McNeil ?
Villa are awash with money regardless of whether they sell Grealish or not.

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Post by DCWat » Fri Jun 25, 2021 11:52 am

mkmel wrote:
Fri Jun 25, 2021 11:28 am
That's been a rumour for a while now
I think it’d be a poisoned chalice for Dwight, going to Villa to fill Grealish’s boots.
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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Fri Jun 25, 2021 11:54 am

DCWat wrote:
Fri Jun 25, 2021 11:52 am
I think it’d be a poisoned chalice for Dwight, going to Villa to fill Grealish’s boots.
I think Buendia is the natural replacement (in the free role). They have wanted another winger for two seasons now.

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Fri Jun 25, 2021 6:43 pm

Duncan castles is saying Villa are targeting McNeil

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Post by Hedontplayforyou » Fri Jun 25, 2021 7:54 pm

No thanks

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Post by dermotdermot » Fri Jun 25, 2021 8:54 pm

According to the Evening Standard, James Tarkowsky has decided to stay with us for another year and see out his contract. Other offers were way off the mark from what he expected.

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Post by Longsider » Fri Jun 25, 2021 9:02 pm

dermotdermot wrote:
Fri Jun 25, 2021 8:54 pm
According to the Evening Standard, James Tarkowsky has decided to stay with us for another year and see out his contract. Other offers were way off the mark from what he expected.
Good. Brentford will be pi##ed off

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Post by CnBtruntru » Fri Jun 25, 2021 9:07 pm

James Tarkowsky things are looking up for him! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post by joey13 » Fri Jun 25, 2021 10:11 pm

dermotdermot wrote:
Fri Jun 25, 2021 8:54 pm
According to the Evening Standard, James Tarkowsky has decided to stay with us for another year and see out his contract. Other offers were way off the mark from what he expected.
Have you got a link please

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Post by Local cricketer » Fri Jun 25, 2021 10:16 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Fri Jun 25, 2021 6:43 pm
Duncan castles is saying Villa are targeting McNeil
Duncan castles knows nothing! Only useful when he talks about mourinhio

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Post by Duffer_ » Fri Jun 25, 2021 10:18 pm

joey13 wrote:
Fri Jun 25, 2021 10:11 pm
Have you got a link please
I'm such a fu$kin boy scout

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Post by minnieclaret » Fri Jun 25, 2021 11:50 pm

BBC gossip column reporting Rangers, CP & Clarets interested in John Lundstram when his contract expires next week(Sheffield Star)

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Post by Dark Cloud » Sat Jun 26, 2021 8:54 am

I think this idea of players running down their contracts and then being totally free to pick and choose their next move will and is becoming increasingly popular. Only a few years ago when Ings did it, it was quite unusual, but the appeal to players I think is growing as it means they don't have to go where basically the selling club can get the best deal, their options are limitless and they can boost their wages and signing on fees significantly as there's no fee to pay. It may even start to affect transfer fees at some point.

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Post by fatboy47 » Sat Jun 26, 2021 9:07 am

Dark Cloud wrote:
Sat Jun 26, 2021 8:54 am
I think this idea of players running down their contracts and then being totally free to pick and choose their next move will and is becoming increasingly popular. Only a few years ago when Ings did it, it was quite unusual, but the appeal to players I think is growing as it means they don't have to go where basically the selling club can get the best deal, their options are limitless and they can boost their wages and signing on fees significantly as there's no fee to pay. It may even start to affect transfer fees at some point.

Like everything else its a gamble. JT stays and wrecks a knee next March he risks losing everything. Unlikely yes but its just one Norman Hunter tackle away.

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Post by ClaretAL » Sat Jun 26, 2021 9:12 am

I can't see Dyche playing Tarky if that's his plan.

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Post by Elizabeth » Sat Jun 26, 2021 9:15 am

If a PL club decide they need an experienced good central defender and they fancy Tarkowski I still think he’ll be off if the offer is right. The noises from the club that he is happy to see out his contract if such an offer doesn’t come is encouraging especially as there now seems a proven plan in place with Collins.

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sat Jun 26, 2021 9:26 am

The star is reporting our interest in Lundstram

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Post by claretandy » Sat Jun 26, 2021 9:35 am

Dark Cloud wrote:
Sat Jun 26, 2021 8:54 am
I think this idea of players running down their contracts and then being totally free to pick and choose their next move will and is becoming increasingly popular. Only a few years ago when Ings did it, it was quite unusual, but the appeal to players I think is growing as it means they don't have to go where basically the selling club can get the best deal, their options are limitless and they can boost their wages and signing on fees significantly as there's no fee to pay. It may even start to affect transfer fees at some point.
Players are already free to choose where they go, just because you have a bid accepted doesn't mean the player has to go.

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Post by Elizabeth » Sat Jun 26, 2021 9:38 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sat Jun 26, 2021 9:26 am
The star is reporting our interest in Lundstram
The type of challenge Dyche might want considering he has a good track of resurrecting players careers

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Post by Stevie Morgan » Sat Jun 26, 2021 10:43 am

Think I'd prefer to sell him tbh than risk him being less than 100% invested in the team. We need total commitment in our team ethos.

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Post by Elizabeth » Sat Jun 26, 2021 10:55 am

Stevie Morgan wrote:
Sat Jun 26, 2021 10:43 am
Think I'd prefer to sell him tbh than risk him being less than 100% invested in the team. We need total commitment in our team ethos.
Certainly was evidence of that with Ings , not so sure with Hendrick. Maybe depends on the player’s character

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Post by Goobs » Sat Jun 26, 2021 11:28 am

claretandy wrote:
Sat Jun 26, 2021 9:35 am
Players are already free to choose where they go, just because you have a bid accepted doesn't mean the player has to go.
You don't have to but being left out of a squad for a full season or more depending on your contract can have a very negative impact on your career

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Post by Dodobdobodobo » Sat Jun 26, 2021 11:54 am

I see Arsenal are looking at selling Rob Holding now they’re buying Ben White from Brighton. Perhaps he could be our man if Tarks is off after us showing an interest in him before
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Post by warksclaret » Sat Jun 26, 2021 11:56 am

Elizabeth wrote:
Sat Jun 26, 2021 9:38 am
The type of challenge Dyche might want considering he has a good track of resurrecting players careers
I know we have followers who voiced their opinion on here re Lundstram , however I think he is the closest I have seen to Scotty Arfield. He could play wide right, very determined and athletic and will probably get you more goals than our current midfielders. A good injury free record and the potential to play wide or centrally. He is also free and on a relatively low wage. If he did not always start he would strengthen our bench which has been by far the weakest in the PL. Being a good friend of Wilder I am sure SD could call him to check out JL

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Post by Dark Cloud » Sat Jun 26, 2021 12:12 pm

claretandy wrote:
Sat Jun 26, 2021 9:35 am
Players are already free to choose where they go, just because you have a bid accepted doesn't mean the player has to go.
Yes, I get that, but their options are limited by the clubs willing to meet the seller's valuation and if the player doesn't fancy any of the suitors and chooses to stay put (as you say) he knows that his club was actually willing and happy to sell him which then puts him under pressure.

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Post by Colburn_Claret » Sat Jun 26, 2021 12:22 pm

ClaretAL wrote:
Sat Jun 26, 2021 9:12 am
I can't see Dyche playing Tarky if that's his plan.
I can.
Dyche has known Tarks is going for a long while, yet he didn't let us down last season and put in a great effort, once he got over his poorly toe.
I like Lowts, but if we can get a season, or half a season, of Collins playing right back, alongside Tarks, then it will help him massively when he has to fill his boots.

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Post by minnieclaret » Sat Jun 26, 2021 12:39 pm

Elizabeth wrote:
Sat Jun 26, 2021 10:55 am
Certainly was evidence of that with Ings , not so sure with Hendrick. Maybe depends on the player’s character
Tarks has history remember. He forced his move from Brentford to us.

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Post by claretandy » Sat Jun 26, 2021 1:01 pm

Dark Cloud wrote:
Sat Jun 26, 2021 12:12 pm
Yes, I get that, but their options are limited by the clubs willing to meet the seller's valuation and if the player doesn't fancy any of the suitors and chooses to stay put (as you say) he knows that his club was actually willing and happy to sell him which then puts him under pressure.
But we aren't happy to sell him, Dyche has said that he will be here next season.

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Post by Jakubclaret » Sat Jun 26, 2021 1:11 pm

Dark Cloud wrote:
Sat Jun 26, 2021 12:12 pm
Yes, I get that, but their options are limited by the clubs willing to meet the seller's valuation and if the player doesn't fancy any of the suitors and chooses to stay put (as you say) he knows that his club was actually willing and happy to sell him which then puts him under pressure.
It’s a situation which needs resolving in my view, he’s clearly committed but unwilling to commit past a certain point, it’ll be very interesting to see when/if an acceptable offer comes in whether the club will resist or JT will get itchy feet or perhaps both, it’s a situation in development & something in waiting, the situation as changed with Collins signing the need to keep JT isn’t what it was, especially if a big offer comes in & you risk losing that & allowing him to leave for free.
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Post by NewClaret » Sat Jun 26, 2021 1:19 pm

minnieclaret wrote:
Sat Jun 26, 2021 12:39 pm
Tarks has history remember. He forced his move from Brentford to us.
I’m sure Tarks has far too much respect for Dyche for it to effect his attitude or performance. Nor would I expect Dyche to tolerate it if he did.

But more than anything else, he’ll be playing to secure the biggest possible contract elsewhere, and an outside chance of a place in the WC squad (very outside if Southgate is still in charge), so under performing would not be in his best interests at all.

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Post by warksclaret » Sat Jun 26, 2021 1:32 pm

Can see him staying a year, seeing how we fare, but leaving as a free agent, maybe to a mid table side (or back up in a mid table side), but on one good last contract for him. By the way I think in his last year he will continue to give us 100%

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Post by Vegas Claret » Sat Jun 26, 2021 3:40 pm

It's in Tarks interest to have an outstanding season if he really wants a move to a club that regularly qualifies for European competition
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Post by Spijed » Sat Jun 26, 2021 4:00 pm

I've no problem with players staying for the full length of their contracts. If they do well, Collins for example, there's a good chance we'll still be in the Premier league and any Sky TV deal money will be far in excess of any transfer fee we might get for a player during that time.

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Post by Vegas Claret » Sat Jun 26, 2021 4:35 pm

Spijed wrote:
Sat Jun 26, 2021 4:00 pm
I've no problem with players staying for the full length of their contracts. If they do well, Collins for example, there's a good chance we'll still be in the Premier league and any Sky TV deal money will be far in excess of any transfer fee we might get for a player during that time.
if we stay up we wont lose out on Tarks, realistically we may only get 15-20 million at a push for him now. By the time we pay Brentford their percentage it's not worth selling him in the grand scheme of things.
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Post by Zom Zom » Sat Jun 26, 2021 4:36 pm

I have no issues with him leaving for free. When we look back at this time, head and shoulders above them down’t road, he will be considered more than an integral part of this success. He has been fantastic for Burnley FC, and Burnley FC has been fantastic for him, as with Kieran Trippier, Danny Ings and Michael Keane among others, before him.

Good luck to him.

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Post by NewClaret » Sat Jun 26, 2021 5:07 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Sat Jun 26, 2021 4:35 pm
if we stay up we wont lose out on Tarks, realistically we may only get 15-20 million at a push for him now. By the time we pay Brentford their percentage it's not worth selling him in the grand scheme of things.
Totally agree.

Unless a massive offer comes in for him, it’s likely keeping him to help us secure another season in the prem is worth far more than than whatever reduced fee we might receive minus Brentford’s cut, then paid in instalments over X years.

Plus we get the pleasure of watching him play for us for another season, which is all I care about really,
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Post by Jakubclaret » Sat Jun 26, 2021 5:23 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Sat Jun 26, 2021 5:07 pm
Totally agree.

Unless a massive offer comes in for him, it’s likely keeping him to help us secure another season in the prem is worth far more than than whatever reduced fee we might receive minus Brentford’s cut, then paid in instalments over X years.

Plus we get the pleasure of watching him play for us for another season, which is all I care about really,
That’s true, but it makes things more worthwhile when you’ve got an happy employee with a smile on his face going about his business, in all fairness he’s wanted out for abit & his conduct during that time as been fine, I’m not sure if it’s the right way of going about things keeping unhappy players instead of cashing in, maybe identifying suitable replacements & offloading early could be more preferable but probably easier said than done in theory.

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Post by WiscoClaret » Sat Jun 26, 2021 5:48 pm

So the going commentary is that we are indeed in for Nat Phillips. First we tried for a loan and LFC weren’t playing around with that. There is growing belief we will get him. If we meet their valuation (somewhere around £15m) for a 5th string CB who did have a quite decent season in the Prem, who I have every confidence Dyche could turn into a superstar....does that indicate that winger is where we are going to look for a loan... I know Pace has said that we plan on being busy but... good grief, Burnley spending close to £45m plus in one window (I’m assuming a decent winger is going to come from somewhere around 9-15m. 9 if we rob the henhouse that is DCFC) is that realistic without significant departures. I know we will be compensated for Dunne and Richter was sold for an undisclosed fee, I know we have a lot more clearance on our wage bill but do we really think we will have that significant of a splash of cash?
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Post by NewClaret » Sat Jun 26, 2021 5:50 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Sat Jun 26, 2021 5:23 pm
That’s true, but it makes things more worthwhile when you’ve got an happy employee with a smile on his face going about his business, in all fairness he’s wanted out for abit & his conduct during that time as been fine, I’m not sure if it’s the right way of going about things keeping unhappy players instead of cashing in, maybe identifying suitable replacements & offloading early could be more preferable but probably easier said than done in theory.
Who says he’s unhappy? Looked fine last season to me.

If I were a few months away from signing a massively lucrative contract somewhere, I’d be very happy.

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Post by Rileybobs » Sat Jun 26, 2021 5:51 pm

WiscoClaret wrote:
Sat Jun 26, 2021 5:48 pm
So the going commentary is that we are indeed in for Nat Phillips. First we tried for a loan and LFC weren’t playing around with that. There is growing belief we will get him. If we meet their valuation (somewhere around £15m) for a 5th string CB who did have a quite decent season in the Prem, who I have every confidence Dyche could turn into a superstar....does that indicate that winger is where we are going to look for a loan... I know Pace has said that we plan on being busy but... good grief, Burnley spending close to £45m plus in one window (I’m assuming a decent winter is going to come from somewhere around 9-15m. 9 if we rob the henhouse that is DCFC) is that realistic without significant departures. I know we will be compensated for Dunne and Richter was sold for an undisclosed fee, I know we have a lot more clearance on our wage bill but do we really think we will have that significant of a splash of cash?
I would expect that the only way we will sign another centre back this summer is if Tarkowski is on his way. Obviously we need to be planning for that eventuality.
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Post by jojomk1 » Sat Jun 26, 2021 5:59 pm

Centre mid and wide right are now the key areas for starters
We have nobody across the middle with pace either to get forward quickly or, just as important, to get back
Far too often last season opposing teams were breaking quickly on us and both Westwood and Cork no longer have the pace in the legs to get back in time - same applies to JBG and McNeil

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Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sat Jun 26, 2021 6:00 pm

WiscoClaret wrote:
Sat Jun 26, 2021 5:48 pm
So the going commentary is that we are indeed in for Nat Phillips. First we tried for a loan and LFC weren’t playing around with that. There is growing belief we will get him. If we meet their valuation (somewhere around £15m) for a 5th string CB who did have a quite decent season in the Prem, who I have every confidence Dyche could turn into a superstar....does that indicate that winger is where we are going to look for a loan... I know Pace has said that we plan on being busy but... good grief, Burnley spending close to £45m plus in one window (I’m assuming a decent winter is going to come from somewhere around 9-15m. 9 if we rob the henhouse that is DCFC) is that realistic without significant departures. I know we will be compensated for Dunne and Richter was sold for an undisclosed fee, I know we have a lot more clearance on our wage bill but do we really think we will have that significant of a splash of cash?
Potentially yes.
We have gaps in the squad, we've had 5 players that I can recall leave for free from the first team squad in the last 12 months, 2 wingers, CM, CB and GK.
That's a lot of wages and some of those we need really to fill.

For the ALK business model to work, right now it requires Dyche, PL football and PL revenue.
I know they've said relegation isn't an issue, but it would be a step back.
Transfer fees are generally been paid over the duration of the players first contract, so we aren't going to be coughing up a large amount of money up front.

This summer they're clearly making a statement of intent by getting the lad in from Stoke so early on and it would appear they're busy trying to get more over the line.
We had fans having a tantrum because we had a quiet January, but ALK barely had a chance to get their feet under the table, this is them showing they're ready to go.
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Post by NewClaret » Sat Jun 26, 2021 6:05 pm

WiscoClaret wrote:
Sat Jun 26, 2021 5:48 pm
So the going commentary is that we are indeed in for Nat Phillips. First we tried for a loan and LFC weren’t playing around with that. There is growing belief we will get him. If we meet their valuation (somewhere around £15m) for a 5th string CB who did have a quite decent season in the Prem, who I have every confidence Dyche could turn into a superstar....does that indicate that winger is where we are going to look for a loan... I know Pace has said that we plan on being busy but... good grief, Burnley spending close to £45m plus in one window (I’m assuming a decent winger is going to come from somewhere around 9-15m. 9 if we rob the henhouse that is DCFC) is that realistic without significant departures. I know we will be compensated for Dunne and Richter was sold for an undisclosed fee, I know we have a lot more clearance on our wage bill but do we really think we will have that significant of a splash of cash?
I’d say that depends on how much of these deals are paid up front (feasible only ~£9m-£12m is) and whether AP/ALK have been able to raise funding from other sources since the takeover. Basically none of us know. I’d say that a quick winger is more important than another CH as things stand though (unless Tarks is off)!

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Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

Post by ClaretMov » Sat Jun 26, 2021 6:07 pm

WiscoClaret wrote:
Sat Jun 26, 2021 5:48 pm
So the going commentary is that we are indeed in for Nat Phillips. First we tried for a loan and LFC weren’t playing around with that. There is growing belief we will get him. If we meet their valuation (somewhere around £15m) for a 5th string CB who did have a quite decent season in the Prem, who I have every confidence Dyche could turn into a superstar....does that indicate that winger is where we are going to look for a loan... I know Pace has said that we plan on being busy but... good grief, Burnley spending close to £45m plus in one window (I’m assuming a decent winger is going to come from somewhere around 9-15m. 9 if we rob the henhouse that is DCFC) is that realistic without significant departures. I know we will be compensated for Dunne and Richter was sold for an undisclosed fee, I know we have a lot more clearance on our wage bill but do we really think we will have that significant of a splash of cash?
Might be 45 million but not net spend

9 million for Gibson
25 million minus 5 to Brentford for Tark say
And the 7ish million bonus from Norwich and Watford coming back up and it's more like about 6 million net spend if they spend anything like 45 million, but at least we are spending
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Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sat Jun 26, 2021 6:08 pm

Neco Williams had a stinker there

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Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

Post by CFS » Sat Jun 26, 2021 6:11 pm

bfcmatt wrote:
Fri Jun 25, 2021 7:53 pm
Martin Braithwaite anybody?
https://www.lancs.live/sport/football/t ... s-20904273
Is this the guy running Wales all over the place? If so yes please.
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