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Anyone know what happened to our links with Jason Knight? It's gone very cold. Maybe his agent was the one that sent Pace off the deep...?
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Not sure how true the rumour is but was told the club pulled out of signing him due to him not making Lurker's weird amazon wish listWiscoClaret wrote: ↑Thu Jun 17, 2021 4:00 amAnyone know what happened to our links with Jason Knight? It's gone very cold. Maybe his agent was the one that sent Pace off the deep...?
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I wondered this. I watched him play a few times for Derby after the links and he was completely anonymous. Ran around a lot, that’s all I could say about him. Certainly didn’t look like a player ready to make an impact on our team - one for the future.WiscoClaret wrote: ↑Thu Jun 17, 2021 4:00 amAnyone know what happened to our links with Jason Knight? It's gone very cold. Maybe his agent was the one that sent Pace off the deep...?
What was interesting is that the media suggested a lot of clubs are interested in him, yet none seemed to bid in January or so far. With Derby’s financial woes you’d expect him to be cheap enough for a prem club to buy quite easily if they wanted him.
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I still think there is a good player there. Just in a shocking team that looks destined for relegation this season.NewClaret wrote: ↑Thu Jun 17, 2021 8:41 amI wondered this. I watched him play a few times for Derby after the links and he was completely anonymous. Ran around a lot, that’s all I could say about him. Certainly didn’t look like a player ready to make an impact on our team - one for the future.
What was interesting is that the media suggested a lot of clubs are interested in him, yet none seemed to bid in January or so far. With Derby’s financial woes you’d expect him to be cheap enough for a prem club to buy quite easily if they wanted him.
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Very sceptical of any link that includes us and Watford!
Look like just agents trying to get better deal for player.
The Young rumour looks just like that. Suits us and him .Shows we are active and let’s other think they have competition. We probably had no serious intent
Look like just agents trying to get better deal for player.
The Young rumour looks just like that. Suits us and him .Shows we are active and let’s other think they have competition. We probably had no serious intent
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We had very serious intent re YoungSpike wrote: ↑Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:00 amVery sceptical of any link that includes us and Watford!
Look like just agents trying to get better deal for player.
The Young rumour looks just like that. Suits us and him .Shows we are active and let’s other think they have competition. We probably had no serious intent
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All over now Tony?
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Not a bad position to be in if you are Ashley Young, likely to play less games and be paid more.
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Obviously not serious enough!
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in the last 5 years, Brighton have the 11th highest net spend in the whole of Europe. Only Arsenal, Chelsea, AC Milan, Aston Villa, Everton, Inter, PSG, Barcelona, Man United and Man City have spent more than them.ClaretTony wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 3:46 pmThey’ve spent big have Brighton and they are doing their best to hang on to players. They’ve turned down a £40m offer today from Arsenal for Ben White.
They've spent approximately 90 million more than Bayern Munich, 130 million more than Liverpool and 170 million more than Real Madrid
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Is it not down to finances? Have they offered a big packageClaretTony wrote: ↑Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:22 pmVery serious but not much you can do when a club with whom he has an emotional attachment comes in.
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Spendmore Villa have probably blown us out of the waterNewcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:49 pmIs it not down to finances? Have they offered a big package
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That’s what I would assume.Vegas Claret wrote: ↑Thu Jun 17, 2021 2:12 pmSpendmore Villa have probably blown us out of the water
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We can arguably only realistically beat Norwich and Brentford in terms of package to players.Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:49 pmIs it not down to finances? Have they offered a big package
We rely on no other teams in the premier league actually wanting them.
Hopefully in time that will change, with the more established we become, or the more income we generate on top of the TV money.
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Not too concerned we've missed out on Young. Last thing our squad needs is yet another ageing player, who turns 36 in a few weeks.
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Love the dig at City and Peps obsession with buying fullbacksVegas Claret wrote: ↑Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:24 pmin the last 5 years, Brighton have the 11th highest net spend in the whole of Europe. Only Arsenal, Chelsea, AC Milan, Aston Villa, Everton, Inter, PSG, Barcelona, Man United and Man City have spent more than them.
They've spent approximately 90 million more than Bayern Munich, 130 million more than Liverpool and 170 million more than Real Madrid
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Young having medical at Villa according to Sky
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Not sure on the substance of the Young transfer story but having more teams like Aston Villa and Leeds splashing cash about just makes it so much worse for us.
Anyone we're linked with they can just usurp our offer and unlike the big cash cows they'll be in for similar players as we will.
I hope it backfires and these clubs get relegated. As if it isn't enough already the money the top six pump imo their teams to give them an unfair advantage over us but now it's also rich owned promoted teams.
Anyone we're linked with they can just usurp our offer and unlike the big cash cows they'll be in for similar players as we will.
I hope it backfires and these clubs get relegated. As if it isn't enough already the money the top six pump imo their teams to give them an unfair advantage over us but now it's also rich owned promoted teams.
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If Happy Jack leaves Villa imo they will struggle to finish higher than 16th
He is vital to the way they play and a 36 hour old isnt going to be capable of replacing Villas star
I am happy he chose Villa we didnt need another mercenary, only players wanting to play for us., I am of the opinion that Young and his agent used our reported interest to get more money out of the move
Fair play to him but after all that's the agents job
He is vital to the way they play and a 36 hour old isnt going to be capable of replacing Villas star
I am happy he chose Villa we didnt need another mercenary, only players wanting to play for us., I am of the opinion that Young and his agent used our reported interest to get more money out of the move
Fair play to him but after all that's the agents job
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How is Young a mercenary ?Woodleyclaret wrote: ↑Thu Jun 17, 2021 4:51 pmIf Happy Jack leaves Villa imo they will struggle to finish higher than 16th
He is vital to the way they play and a 36 hour old isnt going to be capable of replacing Villas star
I am happy he chose Villa we didnt need another mercenary, only players wanting to play for us., I am of the opinion that Young and his agent used our reported interest to get more money out of the move
Fair play to him but after all that's the agents job
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Hi Woodley, I agree, 36 hours is not a long time to learn to do much, certainly nowhere long enough to learn to play football at any level, never mind at Premier League level.Woodleyclaret wrote: ↑Thu Jun 17, 2021 4:51 pmIf Happy Jack leaves Villa imo they will struggle to finish higher than 16th
He is vital to the way they play and a 36 hour old isnt going to be capable of replacing Villas star
I am happy he chose Villa we didnt need another mercenary, only players wanting to play for us., I am of the opinion that Young and his agent used our reported interest to get more money out of the move
Fair play to him but after all that's the agents job
Thanks, it's given me a smile this afternoon.
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Reminds me of Paul Merson's '35 year old free-kick'! lol
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I was wondering that
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We do it a different way, which is itself something to be proud of. There’s no point concerning ourselves with teams that are willing to spend because they’re backed by wealthy owners, prepared to operate at a loss or one of the ‘big boys’.superdimitri wrote: ↑Thu Jun 17, 2021 4:18 pmNot sure on the substance of the Young transfer story but having more teams like Aston Villa and Leeds splashing cash about just makes it so much worse for us.
Anyone we're linked with they can just usurp our offer and unlike the big cash cows they'll be in for similar players as we will.
I hope it backfires and these clubs get relegated. As if it isn't enough already the money the top six pump imo their teams to give them an unfair advantage over us but now it's also rich owned promoted teams.
Not having swathes of cash to throw at players makes our achievements all the more special. Let’s not kid ourselves though, if we got ourselves some wealthy backers (who knows what Pace’s exit strategy is) there’d be plenty all too happy to see us spending just as easily as everyone else.
Losing out on Young may be financial. It may equally Kay be the pull of resigning for Villa. He’d have been a good signing, in my eyes, but it’s not to be.
We just have to work cleverer - it doesn’t mean we can’t compete at this level, we’ve shown that we can.
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I agree wholeheartedly but my point still stands. Its more difficult now than it used to be because we have the likes of Aston Villa and Leeds (and Wolves even) throwing money around now. Its just more teams we can't compete with for transfers. It doesn't really effect us if we sign different players, but if the story is true and Villa have poached the signing away from us, that's not good.DCWat wrote: ↑Thu Jun 17, 2021 6:31 pmWe do it a different way, which is itself something to be proud of. There’s no point concerning ourselves with teams that are willing to spend because they’re backed by wealthy owners, prepared to operate at a loss or one of the ‘big boys’.
Not having swathes of cash to throw at players makes our achievements all the more special. Let’s not kid ourselves though, if we got ourselves some wealthy backers (who knows what Pace’s exit strategy is) there’d be plenty all too happy to see us spending just as easily as everyone else.
Losing out on Young may be financial. It may equally Kay be the pull of resigning for Villa. He’d have been a good signing, in my eyes, but it’s not to be.
We just have to work cleverer - it doesn’t mean we can’t compete at this level, we’ve shown that we can.
You just hope the club has some alternatives lined up so we have the squad depth at the start of the season.
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The premier league is getting harder and harder each season. As you say, there are only really 4 other teams that we can remotely compete with. If the some of the sleeping giants get promoted it becomes even harder.superdimitri wrote: ↑Thu Jun 17, 2021 6:45 pmI agree wholeheartedly but my point still stands. Its more difficult now than it used to be because we have the likes of Aston Villa and Leeds (and Wolves even) throwing money around now. Its just more teams we can't compete with for transfers. It doesn't really effect us if we sign different players, but if the story is true and Villa have poached the signing away from us, that's not good.
You just hope the club has some alternatives lined up so we have the squad depth at the start of the season.
Makes the achievements great but makes competing long term incredibly difficult
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Lucky escape for me with Young by the sounds of it
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It's the premier league, there will always be teams spending money on players.superdimitri wrote: ↑Thu Jun 17, 2021 6:45 pmI agree wholeheartedly but my point still stands. Its more difficult now than it used to be because we have the likes of Aston Villa and Leeds (and Wolves even) throwing money around now. Its just more teams we can't compete with for transfers. It doesn't really effect us if we sign different players, but if the story is true and Villa have poached the signing away from us, that's not good.
You just hope the club has some alternatives lined up so we have the squad depth at the start of the season.
And 5 years successive in the prem says we do it right, but here's a few self inflicted reasons why it's harder.
The takeover seems to have taken funds away.
By keeping the same players, they get pay rises. Even if it's well earned, the wage bill goes up with the quality of player staying the same.
30m to 100m is a big jump.
If we signed younger players, we might get the wage bill back down and have more for transfers?
Signing young players and selling on after 2 years for a big profit should be the aim. The owners more than the manager would fancy this option though.
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There will always be players in the Championship capable of improving PL sides, we cannot afford to sign 4 below average players like Lurker suggested, it will bite us on the arse further down the line. Brooks, Olise, Armstrong, Chair, Ayew are a few off the top of my head, Ayew is now a free transfer I think.Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 11:09 pmWho would you go for within our realistic range?
I can’t really see many players in the championship improving us. Maybe a couple at Bournemouth and reading but not much else.
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Young officially signed for Villa, shame is that, would've been excellent here imo.
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I agree. And I’d have certainly taken him given his versatility and our lack of squad depth.
That said, not if the plan was for him to be a first choice winger & given his age may’ve turned out to be an expensive drain on scarce resources. We’ll only know when we see how he plays for Villa.
The positive to take from this is that we were in for him, and by all accounts was impressed/keen to join but Villa pipped us with a late bid. That’s positive both in that we are active, are looking at players of his calibre and clearly have an positive story to tell.
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Jakubclaret wrote: ↑Thu Jun 17, 2021 7:10 pmDodged a bullet or maybe a missile, I’d say it’s sensible to at least wait & see how he gets on at Villa first.
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You won’t see him featuring at Villa much unless Grealish goes off and they need someone else on the field to dive for free kicks and penalties
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We can look all we want but 99% of the time players of his calibre are well out of our reach the only reason this was a runner was because of the age & the risk attached with that.NewClaret wrote: ↑Thu Jun 17, 2021 7:37 pmI agree. And I’d have certainly taken him given his versatility and our lack of squad depth.
That said, not if the plan was for him to be a first choice winger & given his age may’ve turned out to be an expensive drain on scarce resources. We’ll only know when we see how he plays for Villa.
The positive to take from this is that we were in for him, and by all accounts was impressed/keen to join but Villa pipped us with a late bid. That’s positive both in that we are active, are looking at players of his calibre and clearly have an positive story to tell.
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Young would have been good but a lack of pace and risk of age-induced injury relax me somewhat.
p.s. let’s not forget that Young apparently turned down Inter amd his old club Watford for us, until Villa came in. So I’m not going to get too despondent about how competitive we are.
p.s. let’s not forget that Young apparently turned down Inter amd his old club Watford for us, until Villa came in. So I’m not going to get too despondent about how competitive we are.
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One year deal, money wise probably worth our two
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Agree entirely, and I take the positive of course, but the negative (and i'm afraid there is one) is that this can happen with every single player we talk to. There is always someone ready to nip in, offer more and seal the deal leaving us dead in the water. We will probably never be the preferred option for PL quality players to come to.NewClaret wrote: ↑Thu Jun 17, 2021 7:37 pmI agree. And I’d have certainly taken him given his versatility and our lack of squad depth.
That said, not if the plan was for him to be a first choice winger & given his age may’ve turned out to be an expensive drain on scarce resources. We’ll only know when we see how he plays for Villa.
The positive to take from this is that we were in for him, and by all accounts was impressed/keen to join but Villa pipped us with a late bid. That’s positive both in that we are active, are looking at players of his calibre and clearly have an positive story to tell.
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Yes but 4 of them 5 players are not in a our price range. I mentioned it on another thread we used to be able to sign the top championship talent for 15m. You will be lucky to get Olise or Armstrong for less that 25m nowKRBFC wrote: ↑Thu Jun 17, 2021 7:23 pmThere will always be players in the Championship capable of improving PL sides, we cannot afford to sign 4 below average players like Lurker suggested, it will bite us on the arse further down the line. Brooks, Olise, Armstrong, Chair, Ayew are a few off the top of my head, Ayew is now a free transfer I think.
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With Villa adding again to their squad with the supposed Ashley Young signing it must mean that one of their players moves down the pecking order. They might become a club to approach for some of their fringe players, maybe a loan and guarantee that they will get game time
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Leicester with another fantastic signing
Patson Daka looks a real talent
Patson Daka looks a real talent
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Young would have been yet another short term fix. We need to start thinking a bit longer term and freshening the squad up with some younger legs.
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Agreed, but we know that. It’s always been the case and probably always will. My perspective is that in previous seasons we mightn’t even tried (hence the positive).bobinho wrote: ↑Thu Jun 17, 2021 7:58 pmAgree entirely, and I take the positive of course, but the negative (and i'm afraid there is one) is that this can happen with every single player we talk to. There is always someone ready to nip in, offer more and seal the deal leaving us dead in the water. We will probably never be the preferred option for PL quality players to come to.
We must keep trying, however frustrating the disappointment might be, if we want to move forward.
I agree there’ll always be a bigger team lurking to pick these off so hopefully we can get the quality we need this summer and maybe next, then deploy a different strategy of identifying younger talent before other Prem clubs get interested. It’s the only way forward for us, but unfortunately the under investment in previous summers has left us in a precarious position this year.
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He’s signed for Leicester??Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 17, 2021 8:09 pmLeicester with another fantastic signing
Patson Daka looks a real talent
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Oh, missed that. Bloody hell, very good signing then. Think he’ll do the business for them - a younger, quicker Vardy.Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 17, 2021 8:18 pmLooking like it yes. According to Fabrizio deal agreed and set to be announced early next week.