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Re: Ashley Young yes or no

Post by elwaclaret » Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:02 pm

Yes from me. He brings so much more than ‘a winger’. He will be a fantastic role-model. Playing so long at the very highest levels of the game, a player SD knows personally and trusts.

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Re: Ashley Young yes or no

Post by Vino blanco » Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:03 pm

If he were to become a Barton type signing, then yes. However, if he becomes another Lennon, Walters, Crouch, Stevens type signing then no.

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Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:05 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 4:06 pm
Fabrizio romano has just said

“ Ashley Young is negotiating with Burnley - also Watford want him and Inter offered to extend the contract but Burnley are pushing”
From what I have been told that’s pretty spot on.
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Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:07 pm

Stevie2112 wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 7:05 pm
Montblanc pens aren't cheap.Anywhere from about £200 to £1000
They weren’t cheap pens and I thought it was a nice touch that new signings were presented with one.

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Post by boatshed bill » Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:12 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:07 pm
They weren’t cheap pens and I thought it was a nice touch that new signings were presented with one.
Absolutely,
It's not like we sign thousands of players! :D Good gesture gone down for relative pennies in the scheme of things.

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Re: Ashley Young yes or no

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:15 pm

SalisburyClaret wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:01 pm
If he plays on the right then a definite No - we don’t need another player playing out of position on our right wing
He's right footed

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Re: Ashley Young yes or no

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:19 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:15 pm
He's right footed
I might be wrong didn’t Young play the majority of his career on the right wing? To then be moved to LM/LB in the latter stages of his career.
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Post by aclaretinstevenage » Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:19 pm

Yes from me, so long as this is not our only signing.

It would also increase the number of Burnley players with links to Stevenage following Boydie, Shackle and Nathan Peel (yes him!) I can't currently think of any more but maybe CT can advise any more?!!

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Re: Ashley Young yes or no

Post by SalisburyClaret » Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:20 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:15 pm
He's right footed
No he can use either foot but he’s no right winget

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Re: Ashley Young yes or no

Post by jrgbfc » Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:27 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:02 pm
Yes.
He could potentially provide the same spark as Defour, he's got experience/knowledge to pass on to the younger lads.
He isn't fit to lace Defour's boots as a footballer. Yes he's hard working and will put a shift in, but let's not go overboard. If he plays right midfield hopefully he'll free up more space for McNeil.

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Post by Elizabeth » Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:32 pm

Coming up 36 years of age , already had his best years in the PL by a long way, big wages . No , not for me

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Post by ClaretMov » Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:34 pm

"He isn't fit to lace Defour's boots as a footballer"

That goes to show you know nothing about football
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Post by ClaretTony » Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:36 pm

aclaretinstevenage wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:19 pm
Yes from me, so long as this is not our only signing.

It would also increase the number of Burnley players with links to Stevenage following Boydie, Shackle and Nathan Peel (yes him!) I can't currently think of any more but maybe CT can advise any more?!!
The only two players who have played league football for us and Stevenage are Dean Bowditch & Josh McQuoid.

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Post by aclaretinstevenage » Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:47 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:36 pm
The only two players who have played league football for us and Stevenage are Dean Bowditch & Josh McQuoid.
Ah yes but there are other links, Boydie started his professional football life at Stevenage, Shackle and A Young born and raised in Stevenage, I feel sure Nathan Peel played in the Green and Black halved kit for Burnley? Could be wrong of course.

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Post by arise_sir_charge » Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:52 pm

Ashley Young was a right winger for years, he’s played left back recently but he made his name and got into the England squad as a winger.
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Re: Ashley Young yes or no

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:55 pm

jrgbfc wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:27 pm
He isn't fit to lace Defour's boots as a footballer. Yes he's hard working and will put a shift in, but let's not go overboard. If he plays right midfield hopefully he'll free up more space for McNeil.
Hard working, will put a shift in, titles in 2 countries and more importantly fully fit.

Defour is one of my favourite players ever from anywhere, but to say Young isnt fit to lace his boots is very harsh.

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Post by Dark Cloud » Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:00 pm

Elizabeth wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:32 pm
Coming up 36 years of age , already had his best years in the PL by a long way, big wages . No , not for me
I tend to agree, but I'm actually happy with us tasking him for one year, but two at his age seems a stretch to me and I'm more concerned we'll be shelling out good money to someone who rarely features or is mostly unfit in his second season. Having said that i know it's the second season which is likely to be the deal clincher, so I guess we have no choice. I also agree with others that it has to be just one of a flurry of signings for me to be properly pleased and by no means the "marquee" one.

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Re: Ashley Young yes or no

Post by jrgbfc » Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:03 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:55 pm
Hard working, will put a shift in, titles in 2 countries and more importantly fully fit.

Defour is one of my favourite players ever from anywhere, but to say Young isnt fit to lace his boots is very harsh.
Maybe a bit harsh, but when Defour was with us he was clearly head and shoulders above everyone else in the squad. Don't think that will be the case at all with Young, but fair play to him for the career he's made for himself. He's achieved far more than plenty of more naturally gifted players have.
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Post by ClaretTony » Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:05 pm

aclaretinstevenage wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:47 pm
Ah yes but there are other links, Boydie started his professional football life at Stevenage, Shackle and A Young born and raised in Stevenage, I feel sure Nathan Peel played in the Green and Black halved kit for Burnley? Could be wrong of course.
I knew Boyd started there when they were in non-league and I spotted over the last few days that Young is from Stevenage. I didn’t know about Shackell. I’d no idea on Peel but apparently went there on loan.
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Post by NewClaret » Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:05 pm

Dark Cloud wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:00 pm
I tend to agree, but I'm actually happy with us tasking him for one year, but two at his age seems a stretch to me and I'm more concerned we'll be shelling out good money to someone who rarely features or is mostly unfit in his second season. Having said that i know it's the second season which is likely to be the deal clincher, so I guess we have no choice. I also agree with others that it has to be just one of a flurry of signings for me to be properly pleased and by no means the "marquee" one.
I imagine the second season will be an option we can take up, or he can trigger in certain circumstances (like playing [x] games this season).

Still wouldn’t shock me to see him extend at Inter though.

As you say, cannot be the “marquee” signing. Need a top RW in my opinion.

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Post by ClaretTony » Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:07 pm

Dark Cloud wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:00 pm
I tend to agree, but I'm actually happy with us tasking him for one year, but two at his age seems a stretch to me and I'm more concerned we'll be shelling out good money to someone who rarely features or is mostly unfit in his second season. Having said that i know it's the second season which is likely to be the deal clincher, so I guess we have no choice. I also agree with others that it has to be just one of a flurry of signings for me to be properly pleased and by no means the "marquee" one.
One year deal isn’t it with an option for a second?

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Re: Ashley Young yes or no

Post by Bosscat » Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:12 pm

pushpinpussy wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 7:31 pm
There are only 2 reasons people would say no to this question. You are thick and stupid
😂😂😂 thats rich coming from you ppp 😂😂😂
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Re: Ashley Young yes or no

Post by boatshed bill » Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:13 pm

Bosscat wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:12 pm
😂😂😂 thats rich coming from you ppp 😂😂😂
Boss :D :D

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Re: Ashley Young yes or no

Post by ksrclaret » Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:17 pm

pushpinpussy wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 7:31 pm
There are only 2 reasons people would say no to this question. You are thick and stupid
That's actually only 1 reason.

:D :D :D :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post by Zlatan » Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:17 pm

We’ve only got to finish 2 places higher to pay Young’s wages (current allegedly 90k) for a year. His quality will turn defeats into draws and draws into wins on a few occasions I’m sure.

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Post by ClaretTony » Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:19 pm

Zlatan wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:17 pm
We’ve only got to finish 2 places higher to pay Young’s wages (current allegedly 90k) for a year. His quality will turn defeats into draws and draws into wins on a few occasions I’m sure.
I can assure you he’ll be on nothing like that

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Re: Ashley Young yes or no

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:19 pm

jrgbfc wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:03 pm
Maybe a bit harsh, but when Defour was with us he was clearly head and shoulders above everyone else in the squad. Don't think that will be the case at all with Young, but fair play to him for the career he's made for himself. He's achieved far more than plenty of more naturally gifted players have.
Yes Defour was head and shoulders above everyone else, however potentially a fully fit Young who plays the whole season could offer us more than a half fit Defour.

Defour featured for 24 times for a total of 2009 mins out of 3420 mins from 38 league games in the 2017-18 season.
1 goal and 1 assist.

I'd like to think a fit and firing Ashley young will give us more game time, more assists and maybe more goals.

Also balances the team out because with just one fully fit proper winger last season we looked disjointed, everyone knew that.

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Post by Zlatan » Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:21 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:19 pm
I can assure you he’ll be on nothing like that
Oh I agree. Just highlighting that it’s a good idea providing he stays fit and supplies the goods

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Post by ClaretTony » Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:24 pm

Zlatan wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:21 pm
Oh I agree. Just highlighting that it’s a good idea providing he stays fit and supplies the goods
No brainer for me. He’s a quality footballer.
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Post by Blyclaret » Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:34 pm

Tony are u confident Young will sign ??

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Post by warksclaret » Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:35 pm

If we can get Young and Dyche both signed soon, it will be a huge catylyste in the attraction of further players to our club. Cant believe that with our threadbare squad that people are actually stating they don't want him to join. A quality versatile player who has a great injury-free record
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Post by ClaretTony » Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:35 pm

Blyclaret wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:34 pm
Tony are u confident Young will sign ??
From what I hear we have a good chance of getting him but it being a free it can’t go through until July and anything could happen before then.
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Post by brexit » Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:38 pm

young = lennon + 30k per week

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Post by boatshed bill » Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:48 pm

warksclaret wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:35 pm
If we can get Young and Dyche both signed soon, it will be a huge catylyste in the attraction of further players to our club. Cant believe that with our threadbare squad that people are actually stating they don't want him to join. A quality versatile player who has a great injury-free record
If we upped our players' wages by something like 20% our squad would be brim full ;)

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Post by Blyclaret » Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:55 pm

Of course i forgot about him under contract until july

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Post by Dark Cloud » Mon Jun 14, 2021 10:05 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:07 pm
One year deal isn’t it with an option for a second?
If it is, then that makes far more sense, but having said that we could trigger it and find the second season is a bridge too far. However, I'm happy to take that risk right now as it definitely starts to strengthen us for next season. (With emphasis on the word "starts!")

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Post by Jakubs Tash » Mon Jun 14, 2021 10:10 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:35 pm
From what I hear we have a good chance of getting him but it being a free it can’t go through until July and anything could happen before then.
He can sign a pre-contract.

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Post by ClaretTony » Mon Jun 14, 2021 10:21 pm

Jakubs Tash wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 10:10 pm
He can sign a pre-contract.
Of course he can given that he's coming from another country

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Post by Spike » Mon Jun 14, 2021 10:21 pm

Defour gets better and better in the memory of some folk every day

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Post by NewClaret » Mon Jun 14, 2021 10:26 pm

warksclaret wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:35 pm
If we can get Young and Dyche both signed soon, it will be a huge catylyste in the attraction of further players to our club. Cant believe that with our threadbare squad that people are actually stating they don't want him to join. A quality versatile player who has a great injury-free record
Could not agree more.

With the news that Dyche has “agreed terms” though, I can’t see the hold up for signing and getting the news out there. Assuming we’re in the market for a number of players, you’d think that both Dyche and the club would be looking to announce ASAP to start building that positive sentiment.

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Post by JarrowClaret » Mon Jun 14, 2021 10:47 pm

Spike wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 10:21 pm
Defour gets better and better in the memory of some folk every day
Not better and better, his ability or my thoughts on it have been consistent since I first saw him play for us best player I have seen play for us by some distance sadly we didn’t see enough of him but that wasn’t down to ability as we all know. Ashley Young isn’t in the same class as a Footballer in my opinion but is physically better, a very capable footballer and I would expect he will play in a number of positions for us if he signs and probably a majority of games so would probably end up being a better signing overall.
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Post by Jakubclaret » Mon Jun 14, 2021 10:47 pm

warksclaret wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:35 pm
If we can get Young and Dyche both signed soon, it will be a huge catylyste in the attraction of further players to our club. Cant believe that with our threadbare squad that people are actually stating they don't want him to join. A quality versatile player who has a great injury-free record
I wouldn’t necessarily say people outrightly don’t want him, if it’s him or nothing of course people want him to join, I think if it’s down to him & somebody less mature the more youthful player would be preferred. It’s whether part of the budget allocated will be detriment to another incoming which could perhaps be where the reluctance comes from.

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Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Mon Jun 14, 2021 10:59 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 10:21 pm
Of course he can given that he's coming from another country
Some signatures on contracts soon would be most welcome!

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Post by WiscoClaret » Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:31 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 10:26 pm
Could not agree more.

With the news that Dyche has “agreed terms” though, I can’t see the hold up for signing and getting the news out there. Assuming we’re in the market for a number of players, you’d think that both Dyche and the club would be looking to announce ASAP to start building that positive sentiment.
As an American myself, maybe the American mentality is what they’re going for. The bigger and the flashier, the better. Announcing Dyche plus 2 (at least) players who have signed all at once. Some Americans love the biggest fireworks display they can muster or the largest light show around Christmas... and, this is their first window to wow us Burnley fans. It’ll be remember when Dyche and 2 players signed together kind of day/announcement. ALK etc. Will receive high praise and....Dyche will have been backed.

I understand with the situation we are in, 2 is somewhat the minimum and there is a lot of window left but this has been my hunch since I heard “Dyche agreed terms.” What do you all think?
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Post by elwaclaret » Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:54 pm

WiscoClaret wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:31 pm
As an American myself, maybe the American mentality is what they’re going for. The bigger and the flashier, the better. Announcing Dyche plus 2 (at least) players who have signed all at once. Some Americans love the biggest fireworks display they can muster or the largest light show around Christmas... and, this is their first window to wow us Burnley fans. It’ll be remember when Dyche and 2 players signed together kind of day/announcement. ALK etc. Will receive high praise and....Dyche will have been backed.

I understand with the situation we are in, 2 is somewhat the minimum and there is a lot of window left but this has been my hunch since I heard “Dyche agreed terms.” Why do you all think?
To be honest, that is not the impression they have given me so far. Yes I’d expect a bit of a fanfare when things start happening… but we’ve always had versions of that. I think they’ll go for SD’s top picks and are starting sniffing around some low hanging fruit.

But I think we can expect that the ducks that are being lined up… and head duck is SD. I for one would not be go through the tills until SD has signed the contract.

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Post by CrosspoolClarets » Tue Jun 15, 2021 12:00 am

I thought Defour was fantastic but all said and done Young outstrips him for career honours. Defour has only won titles in minor leagues whereas Young as won the Premier League and Serie A (plus the FA Cup and Europa League).

Would seem a very low risk signing to me. Yes, he is getting on and may be slowing or injured, but then again, he may not.

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Post by Bigvince » Tue Jun 15, 2021 6:22 am

So Ashley can’t sign for anyone before 1st July, oh dear! That means we’ll spend another 2 weeks talking about him, then he’ll sign for somebody else, for more money.
He’d be a good addition to the squad, as long as we don’t pay silly wages and go over 12 month deal

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Post by CardyTheClaret » Tue Jun 15, 2021 7:33 am

A 36 year old winger that’s never been able to cross a ball well....no thanks.

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Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Tue Jun 15, 2021 8:21 am

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#Burnley have offered a contract until 2022 (€3M) with option for another season to Ashely #Young. #Inter have offered the contract extension with the reduction of 30% of his salary. The english fullback will decide his future in the next days. #transfers

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Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

Post by Jakubs Tash » Tue Jun 15, 2021 8:24 am

CardyTheClaret wrote:
Tue Jun 15, 2021 7:33 am
A 36 year old winger that’s never been able to cross a ball well....no thanks.
I’m sure John Carew would disagree.

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