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Post by Spijed » Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:09 pm

Blyclaret wrote:
Mon Jul 26, 2021 9:57 pm
I totally disagree
Nixon gets loads right. Remember he just suggests we are interested or made enquiries.
So are u waiting for Boden to give u some news. Not a chance. He prints it when everyone else has first.
Whilst I agree he has a lot of knowledge on possible player sales would he have the same insight when it comes to how the manager is feeling?

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Post by Quickenthetempo » Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:32 pm

Spijed wrote:
Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:09 pm
Whilst I agree he has a lot of knowledge on possible player sales would he have the same insight when it comes to how the manager is feeling?
Depends if he has Dyche's agent on his contact list?

If the agent wants it putting out there in public that Dyche wants money, it could put the owners under pressure to back him.

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Post by Local cricketer » Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:33 pm

I believe the only journalist to listen to is Andy Jones

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Post by KRBFC » Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:37 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Mon Jul 26, 2021 9:08 pm
Do people still really think Nixon has a clue what’s going on at Burnley??? :lol: :lol: :lol:
Wait people still believe Nixon hasn't got a clue about Burnley? CT can confirm but Nixon had deep connections for years

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Post by KRBFC » Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:00 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Mon Jul 26, 2021 9:44 pm
For every one he gets right he gets several wrong. Throw enough mud, some will stick. Wilson and Worrall last summer as examples. Linked us to Osayi Samuel, rubbish. I’m not buying these Albrighton/Cornet rumours either.

I don’t think he has any links with us at all because he’s been proven time and time again to sprout BS.

If he has links they feed him a lot of duff information. All his tweets are a few words of ambiguous rubbish that anyone could dream up and mainly opinion like “finding two wide men is proving difficult” and “if you don’t sign one the manager will be growling”. Talk about obvious statements anyone could make.
He wasn't wrong with Wilson and Worrall though was he? We were in for both, he never said the deals were done.

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Post by KRBFC » Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:19 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:03 pm
He left QPR for about £500k. I’m sure even we could’ve stretched to that if we were serious enough to enquire.
He never said we bid anything for him.....


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Burnley. Looking closely at Bright Osayi Samuel. No wonder. Poss signing for this window or next.

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Post by Blyclaret » Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:28 pm

Some people on here have a negative thing about Nixon.
Cos they want to be the first to break the news about incoming players.
Time and time again Nixon has been right.
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Post by Juan Tanamera » Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:41 pm

Nixon would make a decent darts player if he could hit the bull often enough. ;)

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Post by Taffy on the wing » Tue Jul 27, 2021 12:00 am

ClaretMov wrote:
Mon Jul 26, 2021 9:20 pm
Pope
Lowton Tarkowski Mee Taylor
"New" Brownhill Westwood McNeil
Wood Vydra

I bet my starting xl is nearer to the one you think it will be, and the left and right side will be the right way around for a start
No Gudmundsson?

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Post by jojomk1 » Tue Jul 27, 2021 8:18 am

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Mon Jul 26, 2021 5:49 pm
Utd are apparently willing to let Phil Jones leave for free
Others who Utd are supposed to be looking to move on (says ESPN)

Lingard, Williams, Dalot, Telles, Periera, James

Tuanzebe being chased by Newcastle - but then it seems EVERYONE is being chased by Newcastle :)

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Tue Jul 27, 2021 8:35 am

90 min is linking with us Phil Jones on a free transfer

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Post by minnieclaret » Tue Jul 27, 2021 8:50 am

Overnight gossip saying that Rashford could be out until Oct. so OGS will hold on to James.

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Post by Tall Paul » Tue Jul 27, 2021 8:54 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Tue Jul 27, 2021 8:35 am
90 min is linking with us Phil Jones on a free transfer
Along with almost half the other clubs in the Premier League..

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Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Tue Jul 27, 2021 9:00 am

Leeds, Brighton and Burnley interested in James, but his wages may rule us out apparently....he's on £45k a week at Utd from what I've seen so he's either after silly money or the person who wrote tweet doesn't know what he's on.

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Post by agreenwood » Tue Jul 27, 2021 9:04 am

Some of this stuff is so tenuous.

Click bait site links a dozen clubs with unwanted footballer.
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Post by RVclaret » Tue Jul 27, 2021 9:16 am

agreenwood wrote:
Tue Jul 27, 2021 9:04 am
Some of this stuff is so tenuous.

Click bait site links a dozen clubs with unwanted footballer.
Unfortunately that’s all we have to go off right now for rumours / links…

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Post by AfloatinClaret » Tue Jul 27, 2021 9:36 am

My expectation is that we'll begin the season with a relatively unchanged starting eleven; I also believe that we have 'some' money, but not a bucketful and that said money will be used to bring in additional players nearer the end of the window.
My feeling is that many (all?) players - particularly those from the Championship/D1 - currently being touted are overpriced, so 'some' money isn't enough to buy them this month, but most of those players being touted aren't available because the selling clubs want to sell them, but because they have to sell them, they're skint after covid and need to reduce their debts; in a perfect world they'd sell their price asset/star player for a bucketful of money in July, but if they've not done a deal by mid-August, they'll then have to settle for the some money that the likes of Burnley have.

Even then of course, there remains the problem of Burnely being one of the less attractive clubs in the EPL for a player to ply his trade. I perceive that the club is still seen as being less 'fashionable' to the players and whilst it appears that the 'lower salaries' issue has been addressed, as I understand it we do still have a harsher 'salary-reduction if we're relegated' condition included in our contract offers than most (all?) other EPL clubs? If things start of/go badly, then any 3 of eight or ten clubs - including Burnley - are potential relegation candidates, so for a player it's always going to be preferable to sign to a club where their own financial risk of relegation is the lowest.

We'll get some more players before the transfer window closes, but I anticipate they'll come in at the last minute and may not all be our first choice for the position.

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Post by Ptgclaret » Tue Jul 27, 2021 10:32 am

Very tenuous, but....

Saw a very expensive looking brand new red Porsche 4x4 going into gawthorpe training ground at half 5 this morning. Quite a few hours too early for training...
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Post by Boss Hogg » Tue Jul 27, 2021 11:30 am

AfloatinClaret wrote:
Tue Jul 27, 2021 9:36 am
My expectation is that we'll begin the season with a relatively unchanged starting eleven; I also believe that we have 'some' money, but not a bucketful and that said money will be used to bring in additional players nearer the end of the window.
My feeling is that many (all?) players - particularly those from the Championship/D1 - currently being touted are overpriced, so 'some' money isn't enough to buy them this month, but most of those players being touted aren't available because the selling clubs want to sell them, but because they have to sell them, they're skint after covid and need to reduce their debts; in a perfect world they'd sell their price asset/star player for a bucketful of money in July, but if they've not done a deal by mid-August, they'll then have to settle for the some money that the likes of Burnley have.

Even then of course, there remains the problem of Burnely being one of the less attractive clubs in the EPL for a player to ply his trade. I perceive that the club is still seen as being less 'fashionable' to the players and whilst it appears that the 'lower salaries' issue has been addressed, as I understand it we do still have a harsher 'salary-reduction if we're relegated' condition included in our contract offers than most (all?) other EPL clubs? If things start of/go badly, then any 3 of eight or ten clubs - including Burnley - are potential relegation candidates, so for a player it's always going to be preferable to sign to a club where their own financial risk of relegation is the lowest.

We'll get some more players before the transfer window closes, but I anticipate they'll come in at the last minute and may not all be our first choice for the position.
Some fair points here. There are added attractions though of getting more PL game time than at a perceived bigger club. We also provide an opportunity to showcase talents, rebuild careers and have a good record on player development and helping people get England caps. We also have a stable management team compared to other PL clubs where a player could easily fall out of favour with a different manager. We also have great training facilities.Think we are more attractive than some think.

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Post by BOYSIE31 » Tue Jul 27, 2021 11:37 am

AfloatinClaret wrote:
Tue Jul 27, 2021 9:36 am
My expectation is that we'll begin the season with a relatively unchanged starting eleven; I also believe that we have 'some' money, but not a bucketful and that said money will be used to bring in additional players nearer the end of the window.
My feeling is that many (all?) players - particularly those from the Championship/D1 - currently being touted are overpriced, so 'some' money isn't enough to buy them this month, but most of those players being touted aren't available because the selling clubs want to sell them, but because they have to sell them, they're skint after covid and need to reduce their debts; in a perfect world they'd sell their price asset/star player for a bucketful of money in July, but if they've not done a deal by mid-August, they'll then have to settle for the some money that the likes of Burnley have.

Even then of course, there remains the problem of Burnely being one of the less attractive clubs in the EPL for a player to ply his trade. I perceive that the club is still seen as being less 'fashionable' to the players and whilst it appears that the 'lower salaries' issue has been addressed, as I understand it we do still have a harsher 'salary-reduction if we're relegated' condition included in our contract offers than most (all?) other EPL clubs? If things start of/go badly, then any 3 of eight or ten clubs - including Burnley - are potential relegation candidates, so for a player it's always going to be preferable to sign to a club where their own financial risk of relegation is the lowest.

We'll get some more players before the transfer window closes, but I anticipate they'll come in at the last minute and may not all be our first choice for the position.
Cheaper and good quality players abroad are available - so same old story and I'm sorry but it comes back down to one person - the manager
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Post by PremierLeagueClass » Tue Jul 27, 2021 11:40 am

BOYSIE31 wrote:
Tue Jul 27, 2021 11:37 am
Cheaper and good quality players abroad are available - so same old story and I'm sorry but it comes back down to one person - the manager
I’m sorry but you’re wrong.
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Post by Guller Bull » Tue Jul 27, 2021 11:45 am

PremierLeagueClass wrote:
Tue Jul 27, 2021 11:40 am
I’m sorry but you’re wrong.

Actually you are all wrong - it's me that's wrong. (and I haven't said anything)
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Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Tue Jul 27, 2021 11:50 am

BOYSIE31 wrote:
Tue Jul 27, 2021 11:37 am
Cheaper and good quality players abroad are available - so same old story and I'm sorry but it comes back down to one person - the manager
Brexit has resulted in a change in criteria for signing foreign, cheaper players from Europe.
For example, Mahrez to Leicester wouldn't happen now.
Defour would I think.

Kante to Leicester wouldn't happen either.
Grosicki to Hull would I think.

It's all well and good whinging about the manager but at least take the time to understand what's going on in the world, just for once.
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Post by djemba-djemba » Tue Jul 27, 2021 11:55 am

Ptgclaret wrote:
Tue Jul 27, 2021 10:32 am
Very tenuous, but....

Saw a very expensive looking brand new red Porsche 4x4 going into gawthorpe training ground at half 5 this morning. Quite a few hours too early for training...
That was Pace on his way to tell Dyche there’s no money.
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Post by FeedTheArf » Tue Jul 27, 2021 12:09 pm

Ptgclaret wrote:
Tue Jul 27, 2021 10:32 am
Very tenuous, but....

Saw a very expensive looking brand new red Porsche 4x4 going into gawthorpe training ground at half 5 this morning. Quite a few hours too early for training...
No prospective signing would be there at that time. More likely an existing player getting a new car delivered to the training ground.

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Post by Quickenthetempo » Tue Jul 27, 2021 12:15 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Tue Jul 27, 2021 9:00 am
Leeds, Brighton and Burnley interested in James, but his wages may rule us out apparently....he's on £45k a week at Utd from what I've seen so he's either after silly money or the person who wrote tweet doesn't know what he's on.
Ah the rule of 3.

Any transfer rumour stating 3 clubs are interested is usually an agent trying to drum up interest for his client or better offer for a club.
On these grounds I'm out.

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Post by Hedontplayforyou » Tue Jul 27, 2021 12:18 pm

If we genuinely get any encouragement to sign Dan James then it’s an absolute no brainier. Couple of good seasons out of him would see us sell him on for 2/3 times whatever we could get him for , add to that a completely different dimension going forward

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Post by agreenwood » Tue Jul 27, 2021 12:33 pm

Things I’ve learned:

No.57 - Footballers who featured in at least half of the league games for a top 6 club the previous season, will not sign for Burnley.

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Post by BOYSIE31 » Tue Jul 27, 2021 12:37 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Tue Jul 27, 2021 11:50 am
Brexit has resulted in a change in criteria for signing foreign, cheaper players from Europe.
For example, Mahrez to Leicester wouldn't happen now.
Defour would I think.

Kante to Leicester wouldn't happen either.
Grosicki to Hull would I think.

It's all well and good whinging about the manager but at least take the time to understand what's going on in the world, just for once.
:lol:

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Post by MACCA » Tue Jul 27, 2021 12:57 pm

Hedontplayforyou wrote:
Tue Jul 27, 2021 12:18 pm
If we genuinely get any encouragement to sign Dan James then it’s an absolute no brainier. Couple of good seasons out of him would see us sell him on for 2/3 times whatever we could get him for , add to that a completely different dimension going forward
That's exactly why we wont sign him regardless of any encouragement.

He's a decade to young and way to raw and fast for our set up just yet.

They'll be a thirty odd year old work horse somewhere, we currently want on for free or on the cheap, but if not we will spend a few quid to get one.

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Post by Firthy » Tue Jul 27, 2021 12:58 pm

agreenwood wrote:
Tue Jul 27, 2021 12:33 pm
Things I’ve learned:

No.57 - Footballers who featured in at least half of the league games for a top 6 club the previous season, will not sign for Burnley.
Was that rule made up by Heinz? 😁

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Post by brunlea99 » Tue Jul 27, 2021 1:05 pm

Firthy wrote:
Tue Jul 27, 2021 12:58 pm
Was that rule made up by Heinz? 😁
Could be as apparently (to some on here), we only sign older "has beans" .
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Post by agreenwood » Tue Jul 27, 2021 1:10 pm

brunlea99 wrote:
Tue Jul 27, 2021 1:05 pm
Could be as apparently (to some on here), we only sign older "has beans" .
Never said that, but James started almost half of United’s games last season and I’m struggling to think of any player we’ve signed that have been recently prominent at a club of that stature.

It’s just not a step most footballers would be willing to take.

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Post by agreenwood » Tue Jul 27, 2021 1:12 pm

agreenwood wrote:
Tue Jul 27, 2021 1:10 pm
Never said that, but James started almost half of United’s games last season and I’m struggling to think of any player we’ve signed that have been recently prominent at a club of that stature.

Even ignoring the financial barrier, it’s just not a step most footballers would be willing to take.

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Post by agreenwood » Tue Jul 27, 2021 1:12 pm

Never said that, but James started almost half of United’s games last season and I’m struggling to think of any player we’ve signed that have been recently prominent at a club of that stature.

Even ignoring the financial barrier, it’s just not a step most footballers would be willing to take.

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Post by agreenwood » Tue Jul 27, 2021 1:14 pm

God knows what I’ve done there 😂

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Post by brunlea99 » Tue Jul 27, 2021 1:15 pm

agreenwood wrote:
Tue Jul 27, 2021 1:10 pm
Never said that, but James started almost half of United’s games last season and I’m struggling to think of any player we’ve signed that have been recently prominent at a club of that stature.

It’s just not a step most footballers would be willing to take.
I wasn't being critical of you (or anyone), it was just a jovial comment relating to Heinz 57 and has beens/has beans.

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Post by Tall Paul » Tue Jul 27, 2021 1:32 pm

agreenwood wrote:
Tue Jul 27, 2021 1:12 pm
Never said that, but James started almost half of United’s games last season
No he didn't, not even close to half of them.

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Post by Shaggy » Tue Jul 27, 2021 1:50 pm

I think we can all agree that if we go through the season with no improvements to the first XI then something dramatically needs to change with our recruitment process.

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Post by agreenwood » Tue Jul 27, 2021 1:51 pm

Tall Paul wrote:
Tue Jul 27, 2021 1:32 pm
No he didn't, not even close to half of them.
Appears to vary between sites, but looks to have featured in anywhere between 25-30 games in all comps for United last season.

I just don’t see us being his next step.

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Post by RVclaret » Tue Jul 27, 2021 2:00 pm

Shaggy wrote:
Tue Jul 27, 2021 1:50 pm
I think we can all agree that if we go through the season with no improvements to the first XI then something dramatically needs to change with our recruitment process.
When Collins signed Pace was the first to tweet that it was down to the ‘new technical transfer structure in place’ at the club or something along those lines. He’ll look a bit daft if that turns out to be the only business we do.

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Post by Jakubclaret » Tue Jul 27, 2021 2:00 pm

Mason Greenwood or victor moses or loic remy have all been realistic targets previously, think remy is too old now, the names have always been there.

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Post by whiffa » Tue Jul 27, 2021 2:07 pm

Have we signed anyone else yet?

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Post by s6t9a2f3f » Tue Jul 27, 2021 2:28 pm

all these concerns, rumours, etc etc just confirms one thing :

Well done Burnley Football Club for punching well beyond their weight yet again.


WE KNOW quality players dont come cheap

WE KNOW there's very little chances of a Andre Gray, Austin, Ings at their transfer fee back then

WE KNOW we are bottom feeders in players/agents choices

WE KNOW the manager and the lads will give it everything

WE KNOW at periods/several periods this season fans on here WILL call for SD head

WE KNOW the new board is probably a upgrade on forward digital thinking and matters off the field but probably only a slight / if any for wealth and money investment.


So concentrate on telling us things we dont know and move forward together.

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Post by Dark Cloud » Tue Jul 27, 2021 2:30 pm

whiffa wrote:
Tue Jul 27, 2021 2:07 pm
Have we signed anyone else yet?
Nope!! And I'm getting bloody fed up with checking!!! :roll: Same every summer!!!
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Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Tue Jul 27, 2021 2:35 pm

He said after the Collins signing that - “We believe he will be an excellent addition and we see this as an ideal start to our summer’s business”

So I think that Pace will make sure that a few more join before the window shuts for sure. Hopefully in the next week to get them up to speed but that’s asking a lot

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Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

Post by BenWickes » Tue Jul 27, 2021 2:45 pm

FeedTheArf wrote:
Tue Jul 27, 2021 12:09 pm
No prospective signing would be there at that time. More likely an existing player getting a new car delivered to the training ground.
Possibly.

Or.

Medicals take an age these days. If it was a prospective signing it'd make sense to drop his car off at Barnfield, travel with the necessary staff to Manchester (I believe we still do our medicals there don't we?) and get it done on the quiet. Then come back for the photo shoot, media stuff etc.
I've seen players reported on Sky Sports turning up for medicals at 7am.

I know I wouldn't be leaving my £90,000+ car parked in Manchester.
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