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Post by jrgbfc » Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:32 pm

ClaretAndJew wrote:
Fri Jul 30, 2021 6:54 pm
When did we last buy a player who slotted straight into and improved our starting 11?
Chris Wood? Think we signed him in 2017.

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Post by claretspice » Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:36 pm

minnieclaret wrote:
Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:26 pm


Sorry but I’m sick of reading that Gibson was a bad signing. He wasn’t. He was signed because Ben Mee was holding out and if Mee had left he would have done well for us. The fact that Mee got the deal he wanted and kept our two CBs together was not Gibson’s fault. His behaviour subsequently was poor but we have got our money back so let’s move on from him.
You'll be relieved to see I didnt say he was a bad signing then. I said he was a signing that didnt come off, and theres an important difference IMO. A player can be signed for very sensible reasons (eg those you cite for Gibson, or the risk reward equation I'm observing Dyche seems to take a cautious view of) but not come off. My point, in fact was that if Dyche is reluctant to make those signings it may not be in the long term interests of the club. We may not be able afford to pay the money that ensures that every player we sign will definitely come off.
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Post by Longsider » Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:48 pm

MrTopTier wrote:
Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:07 pm
Would love him here, plus if we gave him the no. 99 shirt. He would pay for himself in shirt sales
:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:52 pm

jrgbfc wrote:
Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:32 pm
Chris Wood? Think we signed him in 2017.
Yup and he scored at Spurs on his debut if I remember rightly.
I know I was there.

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Post by Boss Hogg » Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:05 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:02 pm
Talkbfc (Instagram) saying L’equipe are reporting we’ve bid £13m for Cornet. Is that old news? I can’t see any recent article on L’equipe.
They probably mean £1.30 per Cornetto to stock up the stand kiosks.
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Post by TheFamilyCat » Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:24 pm

Boss Hogg wrote:
Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:05 pm
They probably mean £1.30 per Cornetto to stock up the stand kiosks.
True comedic genius there

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Post by summitclaret » Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:26 pm

MrTopTier wrote:
Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:07 pm
Would love him here, plus if we gave him the no. 99 shirt. He would pay for himself in shirt sales
Yep. Hundreds and thousands.

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Post by ClaretAndJew » Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:40 pm

jrgbfc wrote:
Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:32 pm
Chris Wood? Think we signed him in 2017.
And people don't find this alarming?

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Post by minnieclaret » Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:55 pm

How much would a Cornet with a twix in it cost?

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Post by randomclaret2 » Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:58 pm

minnieclaret wrote:
Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:55 pm
How much would a Cornet with a twix in it cost?
£13,000,001.60

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Post by Elizabeth » Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:00 pm

ClaretAndJew wrote:
Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:40 pm
And people don't find this alarming?
Don’t you think that’s what the club are trying to do now ?

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Post by ClaretAndJew » Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:02 pm

Elizabeth wrote:
Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:00 pm
Don’t you think that’s what the club are trying to do now ?
4 years.

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Post by Tall Paul » Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:07 pm

ClaretAndJew wrote:
Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:40 pm
And people don't find this alarming?
It's almost as if as the first team gets better it become more difficult and more expensive to buy players that will improve it.

It would be alarming if we were selling our best players without replacing them.

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Post by Spijed » Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:23 pm

randomclaret2 wrote:
Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:58 pm
£13,000,001.60
£1.60 for a twix? wow!

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Post by Steddyman » Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:28 pm

jrgbfc wrote:
Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:32 pm
Chris Wood? Think we signed him in 2017.
Only 4 years ago then. #UTC

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Post by Goobs » Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:34 pm

Spijed wrote:
Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:23 pm
£1.60 for a twix? wow!
No that's for Cornet.
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Post by ClaretAndJew » Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:35 pm

Tall Paul wrote:
Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:07 pm
It's almost as if as the first team gets better it become more difficult and more expensive to buy players that will improve it.

It would be alarming if we were selling our best players without replacing them.
The first team has stayed pretty much the same for 4 years hasn't it?

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Post by Tall Paul » Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:55 pm

ClaretAndJew wrote:
Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:35 pm
The first team has stayed pretty much the same for 4 years hasn't it?
Pretty much. And that's because better players cost more than we've been willing or able to pay.

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Post by Jakubclaret » Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:05 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Fri Jul 30, 2021 6:53 pm
Gallagher confirmed at Palace.
So after everything that’s been said previously a couple of weeks ago about the disarray with people leaving right left & centre & where we are now seems to be completely different, but let’s forget any reminders & not discuss them :D

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Post by Spijed » Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:15 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:05 pm
So after everything that’s been said previously a couple of weeks ago about the disarray with people leaving right left & centre & where we are now seems to be completely different, but let’s forget any reminders & not discuss them :D
And you think it works having almost an entirely new team play together at once?

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Post by kentonclaret » Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:26 pm

Tall Paul wrote:
Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:07 pm
It's almost as if as the first team gets better it become more difficult and more expensive to buy players that will improve it.

It would be alarming if we were selling our best players without replacing them.

If the first team was getting better we wouldn't have finished 7 places lower in the PL table than the previous season and finished as one of the 3 lowest scoring teams in the division (the other 2 teams were relegated). We ended the season with a whimper losing our last 3 matches without scoring. Our head to head record against the teams around us in the table was very poor also.

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Post by Jakubclaret » Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:26 pm

Spijed wrote:
Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:15 pm
And you think it works having almost an entirely new team play together at once?
I don’t wish to discuss them because I’m not jealous of another team’s recruitment, I’d rather discuss what’s happening here.
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Post by ksrclaret » Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:29 pm

Spijed wrote:
Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:15 pm
And you think it works having almost an entirely new team play together at once?
That probably wouldn't work straight away which is lucky for Palace since that won't be the case.

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Post by Spijed » Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:37 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:26 pm
I don’t wish to discuss them because I’m not jealous of another team’s recruitment, I’d rather discuss what’s happening here.
So why do you keep banging on about how good you think their recruitment is, along with that of Newcastle United?

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Post by kentonclaret » Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:45 pm

Spijed wrote:
Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:37 pm
So why do you keep banging on about how good you think their recruitment is, along with that of Newcastle United?

Take a look back at the Dyche to Palace thread that grew like Topsy on here and you will probably find the answer.

Umpteen posts saying that Dyche would be crazy to go to Palace because they faced a "massive rebuilding job".

Naturally people are now interested in how this "massive rebuilding job" is taking shape.

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Post by Spijed » Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:50 pm

kentonclaret wrote:
Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:45 pm
Take a look back at the Dyche to Palace thread that grew like Topsy on here and you will probably find the answer.

Umpteen posts saying that Dyche would be crazy to go to Palace because they faced a "massive rebuilding job".

Naturally people are now interested in how this "massive rebuilding job" is taking shape.
So you think we are in need of a "massive rebuilding job"?

Apart from a right winger and possibly someone in central midfield do we need players in defence or elsewhere that would improve the team much?

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Post by Hedontplayforyou » Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:56 pm

Sounds as if there will be a “piece” from Nixon tomorrow on who our next target will be now that we know Albrighton isn’t coming, I’m going to guess at him saying we’ve turned our attention to Ryan Christie of Celtic and/or Jozwiak of Derby

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Post by Hedontplayforyou » Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:58 pm

Basically two names linked at different times previously

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Post by Jakubclaret » Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:58 pm

Spijed wrote:
Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:37 pm
So why do you keep banging on about how good you think their recruitment is, along with that of Newcastle United?
I’m reminding certain posters of what’s been said & what later happens, certain posters on here know absolutely nothing & pretty much everything posted is diarrhoea, whilst certain posters on here are extremely knowledgeable & pretty much everything that’s posted happens & comes true.

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Post by Tall Paul » Fri Jul 30, 2021 11:33 pm

kentonclaret wrote:
Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:26 pm
If the first team was getting better we wouldn't have finished 7 places lower in the PL table than the previous season and finished as one of the 3 lowest scoring teams in the division (the other 2 teams were relegated). We ended the season with a whimper losing our last 3 matches without scoring. Our head to head record against the teams around us in the table was very poor also.
It's not that hard to understand. We've pretty much hit a ceiling in terms of quality of first team squad members relative to the budget we have available and we hit that ceiling a few seasons ago. This was illustrated by the Gibson and Vydra signings who were at the top of our budget and weren't of any higher quality than the players in the team.

Admittedly, now we have a couple of holes in the squad it should be easier to improve it and I'm pretty confident that will happen by the end of this window.
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Post by Iloveyoubrady » Fri Jul 30, 2021 11:36 pm

We will be alright... a couple of signings and we’re set
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Post by Spijed » Fri Jul 30, 2021 11:47 pm

kentonclaret wrote:
Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:26 pm
We ended the season with a whimper losing our last 3 matches without scoring.
Sorry to burst your bubble about the season just gone, but just checked the last three games for the five consecutive seasons we've been in the Premier league and we have an abysmal record pretty much every year once we are safe.

If you combine the 15 matches we have a grand total of six points.

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Post by Grimsdale » Fri Jul 30, 2021 11:53 pm

I know it's a Twitter rumour but this guy has 13K followers:

Image

Would be delighted if we get this over the line.

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Post by tiger76 » Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:39 am

Grimsdale wrote:
Fri Jul 30, 2021 11:53 pm
I know it's a Twitter rumour but this guy has 13K followers:

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Would be delighted if we get this over the line.
No idea how reliable that account is, however I could well believe that wages are once again a stumbling block, can't we find ways around that, large signing on bonus for instance.

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Post by Spijed » Sat Jul 31, 2021 1:02 am

tiger76 wrote:
Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:39 am
No idea how reliable that account is, however I could well believe that wages are once again a stumbling block, can't we find ways around that, large signing on bonus for instance.
You'd have thought before making a bid his agent would have given the club some encouragement.

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Post by Vegas Claret » Sat Jul 31, 2021 1:33 am

I know very little about AMN - is he that good ?

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Post by minnieclaret » Sat Jul 31, 2021 1:54 am

Vegas Claret wrote:
Sat Jul 31, 2021 1:33 am
I know very little about AMN - is he that good ?
I’ve said previously I’m concerned that he is only £20m. He had such a great start as a youngster earning 5 England caps and his career has stalled. I hope Arsenal don’t know something we don’t.
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Post by CFS » Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:01 am

Vegas Claret wrote:
Sat Jul 31, 2021 1:33 am
I know very little about AMN - is he that good ?
He runs around alot that's about all really sorry and can cover multiple positions. Nothing creative just hard work tbh.

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Post by Grimsdale » Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:48 am

The obligatory YouTube compilation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dORR15COvIg

Can see why Dyche would be keen, looks very versatile. Also in the 2019/20 season he was the seventh fastest player in the Premier League which is something we're crying out for.

Interestingly in this interview from a couple of years ago he describes himself as a midfielder but would like to become winger - maybe that's the carrot we're dangling in front of him to tempt him to move here.

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Post by RVclaret » Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:47 am

Yep so he does want to be a winger. Like I mentioned before, he is an ideal fit for our system - versatile, dynamic, pacey. Hope that account is legit as he’d be a superb signing.

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Post by superdimitri » Sat Jul 31, 2021 7:19 am

Pretty sure he's stated since then he wants to play CM, but who knows.

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Post by Woodleyclaret » Sat Jul 31, 2021 8:00 am

Dwight wants to play cm
Perhaps we play Collins at left back with Charlie in front at wide left.Push Matt Lowton up wide right and Phil Bardsley at right back
Who needs any signings weve got U23 players to cover on the bench
This football manager lark is easy

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Post by Claret_tinted » Sat Jul 31, 2021 8:28 am

Jakubclaret wrote:
Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:58 pm
I’m reminding certain posters of what’s been said & what later happens, certain posters on here know absolutely nothing & pretty much everything posted is diarrhoea, whilst certain posters on here are extremely knowledgeable & pretty much everything that’s posted happens & comes true.
You can’t mention anything on here nowadays. If you do and it’s not 100% accurate you get bullied into submission by those who love to shout at the internet.

We’ve all seen posters disappear or not pass on info because of it. Even Tony can’t now because of the vitriol that follows.

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Post by jrgbfc » Sat Jul 31, 2021 8:33 am

CFS wrote:
Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:01 am
He runs around alot that's about all really sorry and can cover multiple positions. Nothing creative just hard work tbh.
He'd fit in perfectly with us then ;)

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Post by Marvins Van » Sat Jul 31, 2021 9:32 am

Why not just let Man City have all the best players and the rest make do with whats left...Oh they already have...

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Post by Boss Hogg » Sat Jul 31, 2021 9:33 am

He is very versatile. We may see this as filling 2 positions/covering 2 positions with one player which is more cost effective. Wages need to be covered by signing on fees with players. If we are too rigid we are going to be shopping in a very narrow pool.

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Post by Andreshotboots » Sat Jul 31, 2021 9:38 am

We can top up his wages with the European bonus😃

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Post by minnieclaret » Sat Jul 31, 2021 9:56 am

Marvins Van wrote:
Sat Jul 31, 2021 9:32 am
Why not just let Man City have all the best players and the rest make do with whats left...Oh they already have...
This has been football since Jimmy Hill got the wage cap lifted. Magnified by freedom of contract. Currently it’s City but before it was ManU then Chelsea.

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Post by Local cricketer » Sat Jul 31, 2021 10:15 am

Leeds just signed a goalkeeper. Another one we have missed out on

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Post by boatshed bill » Sat Jul 31, 2021 10:23 am

Local cricketer wrote:
Sat Jul 31, 2021 10:14 am
That’s exactly why your not manager. What a load of shite
Why not play two banks of four defenders? Tactical genius, me :D

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