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Post by Jakubs Tash » Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:23 am

ClaretMov wrote:
Wed Jul 21, 2021 5:07 pm
Connor Roberts the Swansea right back being linked again
Would be a strange signing based on him currently being out injured until September/October.

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Post by gandhisflipflop » Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:25 am

He can also play in midfield, and Tarks will only have another 12 months here at which point we will be looking for another RCB as realisticly we will only have Collins and Long (who will need to be upgraded).

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Post by tiger76 » Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:28 am

NewClaret wrote:
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I thought he was a RCB, anyway? If we sign another CH it’ll be a LCB like Worrall or Davies, I’d have thought.
I can only see us signing another CH if Tarks moves on, otherwise we're in severe danger of becoming overloaded in that position, Collins, Kev Long, Mee, Tarks, and either Davies or Worrall, even if we deployed 3 at the back we'll have an unhappy camper amongst those guys, Kev Long might be prepared to earn his corn as a squad member, but I can't see any of the others wanting to get splinters in their pants they'll be expecting to play every week.

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Post by gandhisflipflop » Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:33 am

Kevin Long has been a squad member for years anyway. If an opportunity to sign a player of Ajers quality for 13m comes along, you take it and tick off a box we will be looking to tick off in 12 months time.
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Post by boatshed bill » Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:45 am

gandhisflipflop wrote:
Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:25 am
He can also play in midfield, and Tarks will only have another 12 months here at which point we will be looking for another RCB as realisticly we will only have Collins and Long (who will need to be upgraded).
Lots of central defenders at under 23 level at present.

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Post by burnley007 » Thu Jul 22, 2021 11:12 am

A 1st team signing in ANY position would bloody help atm.
We haven't progressed the starting XI at all so far, this is starting to get very concerning

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Post by Grumps » Thu Jul 22, 2021 11:17 am

burnley007 wrote:
Thu Jul 22, 2021 11:12 am
A 1st team signing in ANY position would bloody help atm.
We haven't progressed the starting XI at all so far, this is starting to get very concerning
Schools are out then..

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Post by MACCA » Thu Jul 22, 2021 11:21 am

burnley007 wrote:
Thu Jul 22, 2021 11:12 am
A 1st team signing in ANY position would bloody help atm.
We haven't progressed the starting XI at all so far, this is starting to get very concerning
That's not happened for about 3 seasons now, possibly 5 or 6 windows since we last purchased a player to go straight into the starting 11, but we all no the reasons for thst now.

Hopefully these new guys will put a stop to it.

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Thu Jul 22, 2021 11:33 am

burnley007 wrote:
Thu Jul 22, 2021 11:12 am
A 1st team signing in ANY position would bloody help atm.
We haven't progressed the starting XI at all so far, this is starting to get very concerning
Yes I 100% agree. Season starts in less than a month and we still have strengthened the team that finished 17th.

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Post by boatshed bill » Thu Jul 22, 2021 11:45 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Thu Jul 22, 2021 11:33 am
Yes I 100% agree. Season starts in less than a month and we still have strengthened the team that finished 17th.
You mean finished "easily 17th" :D

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Thu Jul 22, 2021 11:48 am

boatshed bill wrote:
Thu Jul 22, 2021 11:45 am
You mean finished "easily 17th" :D
True, but I would not be hopeful on the current starting eleven maintaining that this season. Especially with Wood missing for potentially 2 months.

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Post by warksclaret » Thu Jul 22, 2021 11:57 am

burnley007 wrote:
Thu Jul 22, 2021 11:12 am
A 1st team signing in ANY position would bloody help atm.
We haven't progressed the starting XI at all so far, this is starting to get very concerning
Could not agree more-I looked at both teams we put out against Morecambe and Salford and we looked exposed. This at a time when the only two key missing players were Wood and Pope (for whom we have cover)

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Post by kentonclaret » Thu Jul 22, 2021 12:00 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Thu Jul 22, 2021 11:33 am
Yes I 100% agree. Season starts in less than a month and we still have strengthened the team that finished 17th.

The early optimism expressed by some that new signings would be all on board to take part in pre-season evaporated in the summer heat. :(

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Post by Bigvince » Thu Jul 22, 2021 12:01 pm

warksclaret wrote:
Thu Jul 22, 2021 11:57 am
Could not agree more-I looked at both teams we put out against Morecambe and Salford and we looked exposed. This at a time when the only two key missing players were Wood and Pope (for whom we have cover)
Vydra aswell

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Post by Vegas Claret » Thu Jul 22, 2021 1:47 pm

doesn't look like BPF will be going to Birmingham now as they have just signed Matija Sarkic on loan from Wolves

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Post by Hedontplayforyou » Thu Jul 22, 2021 1:57 pm

Gaziantep of the Turkish league supposedly interested in Vydra and Moussett of Sheffield United also.
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Post by WiscoClaret » Thu Jul 22, 2021 2:41 pm

Hedontplayforyou wrote:
Thu Jul 22, 2021 1:57 pm
Gaziantep of the Turkish league supposedly interested in Vydra and Moussett of Sheffield United also.
I saw that and would be quite sad to see Vyds go. It would seem unlikely that he’d fancy that kind of move abroad since he has spent so much time in England BUT if the right fee came in I think he might go. I think “young Rico” (Lewis Richardson) is fancied by the staff and Dyche. If we got a fee for Vyds, could replace with another academy grad, and could spend that little bit of a fee to get a winger over the line I wouldn’t be upset.

On another note:
I believe Max Thompson is being groomed to be a backup RW for us. His natural role has been striker but he has been asked to play RW over the last season and is quite talented there. I noticed an article where he signed an “improved contract” with the club and have noticed that he stayed behind with the first team to work with them...so I’m guessing wether we get a winger in or not he’s going to be in and around it. He has an eye for picking out a pass and a goal or two. Wouldn’t be mad about him making the step up. Dyche clearly rates him by blooding him 2 seasons ago!

Thoughts?

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Post by NickBFC » Thu Jul 22, 2021 2:55 pm

WiscoClaret wrote:
Thu Jul 22, 2021 2:41 pm
I saw that and would be quite sad to see Vyds go. It would seem unlikely that he’d fancy that kind of move abroad since he has spent so much time in England BUT if the right fee came in I think he might go. I think “young Rico” (Lewis Richardson) is fancied by the staff and Dyche. If we got a fee for Vyds, could replace with another academy grad, and could spend that little bit of a fee to get a winger over the line I wouldn’t be upset.

On another note:
I believe Max Thompson is being groomed to be a backup RW for us. His natural role has been striker but he has been asked to play RW over the last season and is quite talented there. I noticed an article where he signed an “improved contract” with the club and have noticed that he stayed behind with the first team to work with them...so I’m guessing wether we get a winger in or not he’s going to be in and around it. He has an eye for picking out a pass and a goal or two. Wouldn’t be mad about him making the step up. Dyche clearly rates him by blooding him 2 seasons ago!

Thoughts?
If Vydra were to move, he'd need replacing. We are already short on quality in that area of the pitch - highlighted when Wood isn't available. I'd argue even with Vydra we need improving at the top end of the pitch. The winger, much needed, can't be at the cost of a position elsewhere on the pitch. The owners have to find a way to strengthen the starting line up without weakening another area.

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Post by WiscoClaret » Thu Jul 22, 2021 3:01 pm

NickBFC wrote:
Thu Jul 22, 2021 2:55 pm
If Vydra were to move, he'd need replacing. We are already short on quality in that area of the pitch - highlighted when Wood isn't available. I'd argue even with Vydra we need improving at the top end of the pitch. The winger, much needed, can't be at the cost of a position elsewhere on the pitch. The owners have to find a way to strengthen the starting line up without weakening another area.
Yes, I believe Lewis Richardson might fill that void. Apparently he has the guile and speed like that of Vyds.... a similar player and regularly capped by the England youth setup much like Dwight!

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Post by ŽižkovClaret » Thu Jul 22, 2021 3:06 pm

Hedontplayforyou wrote:
Thu Jul 22, 2021 1:57 pm
Gaziantep of the Turkish league supposedly interested in Vydra and Moussett of Sheffield United also.
Not untypical for Czech players to do a couple of years in Turkey, with its very favourable tax rates it can nicely top up the pot o gold

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Post by warksclaret » Thu Jul 22, 2021 3:13 pm

I doubt we will let him go as he is so different to the other 3 strikers, and he for me was the most improved player last season (and I suspect can get better with us).Its not as if we are seeing a rush of new first team players, and suspect its easier justifying not selling than buying right now

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Post by elwaclaret » Thu Jul 22, 2021 3:13 pm

I’d be shocked and disappointed if we sold Vydra this summer. I think after a tough start he really showed what he could offer Burnley going forward last term, is currently our second striker. I lot more to come from Vydra I suspect.
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Post by Paulclaret » Thu Jul 22, 2021 3:21 pm

Apparently Bournemouth could be interested in Peacock-Farrell.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... rrell.html

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Post by NewClaret » Thu Jul 22, 2021 5:25 pm

Paulclaret wrote:
Thu Jul 22, 2021 3:21 pm
Apparently Bournemouth could be interested in Peacock-Farrell.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... rrell.html
A sweetener for Brooks, perhaps?

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Post by Hedontplayforyou » Thu Jul 22, 2021 5:39 pm

:lol:
NewClaret wrote:
Thu Jul 22, 2021 5:25 pm
A sweetener for Brooks, perhaps?

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Post by boatshed bill » Thu Jul 22, 2021 6:45 pm

WiscoClaret wrote:
Thu Jul 22, 2021 3:01 pm
Yes, I believe Lewis Richardson might fill that void. Apparently he has the guile and speed like that of Vyds.... a similar player and regularly capped by the England youth setup much like Dwight!
I would say nothing like Vydra.
But there is a fair chance he could make it,
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Post by Hedontplayforyou » Thu Jul 22, 2021 6:54 pm

Have you seen much of Richardson boat shed?

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Post by boatshed bill » Thu Jul 22, 2021 7:00 pm

Hedontplayforyou wrote:
Thu Jul 22, 2021 6:54 pm
Have you seen much of Richardson boat shed?
I watched all but one of the games they showed last season.
He played in most, if not all, of them.
Tidy player, reminded me of Robbie Blake.
But to qualify my statement about a comparison with Vydra, if Vydra played in an U23s game he would be the fastest player out there by some distance.

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Post by PremierLeagueClass » Thu Jul 22, 2021 7:03 pm

Sometimes you see a young player for the first time and you know. Richardson feels like one that will have a very good career at a decent level. Ings and McNeil were the same.
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Post by boatshed bill » Thu Jul 22, 2021 7:11 pm

PremierLeagueClass wrote:
Thu Jul 22, 2021 7:03 pm
Sometimes you see a young player for the first time and you know. Richardson feels like one that will have a very good career at a decent level. Ings and McNeil were the same.
Yes.
Good vision and first touch, and very skillful.
I think it would be a bit premature to expect him to step into the starting line-up in the absence of Wood and Vydra, TBH.

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Post by Hedontplayforyou » Thu Jul 22, 2021 7:13 pm

Nice to hear, Robbie was my favourite player for many years , if he had a bit more pace and didn’t love KFC so much he would have been one of the very best, on Richardson, is he a good finisher or more of a number 10/ supporting striker?

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Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Thu Jul 22, 2021 7:20 pm

PremierLeagueClass wrote:
Thu Jul 22, 2021 7:03 pm
Sometimes you see a young player for the first time and you know. Richardson feels like one that will have a very good career at a decent level. Ings and McNeil were the same.
Fingers crossed certainly sounds like he could be a good one from the reports of those who’ve seen him.

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Post by tiger76 » Thu Jul 22, 2021 8:10 pm

I'd be concerned if we let Vydra go this summer, Wood will miss a fair chunk of the campaign, and that only leaves Ash and Jay, yes Richardson might be able to make the grade in time, but it's asking an awful lot of a young kid talented as he is too shoulder a lot of the burden to improve our goals return.

We struggled for goals last season even with Vydra in the team post-Xmas, so why we'd even consider cashing in on him baffles me, the only circumstance where he should be let go is if a decent offer comes in, say £10m or so, and if we have a replacement already lined-up to immediately slot into the 1st team.

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Post by DCWat » Thu Jul 22, 2021 8:17 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Thu Jul 22, 2021 8:10 pm
I'd be concerned if we let Vydra go this summer, Wood will miss a fair chunk of the campaign, and that only leaves Ash and Jay, yes Richardson might be able to make the grade in time, but it's asking an awful lot of a young kid talented as he is too shoulder a lot of the burden to improve our goals return.

We struggled for goals last season even with Vydra in the team post-Xmas, so why we'd even consider cashing in on him baffles me, the only circumstance where he should be let go is if a decent offer comes in, say £10m or so, and if we have a replacement already lined-up to immediately slot into the 1st team.
Is there anything to be baffled about, aside from an unsubstantiated article linking a Turkish club with Vydra?
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Post by Vegas Claret » Thu Jul 22, 2021 11:32 pm

listening to Fabrizio Romano he reckons the beginning of August will see players starting to move for cheaper prices than being quoted now, if anyone knows he should do

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Post by snapcrackleandpop » Fri Jul 23, 2021 7:36 am

tiger76 wrote:
Thu Jul 22, 2021 8:10 pm
I'd be concerned if we let Vydra go this summer, Wood will miss a fair chunk of the campaign, and that only leaves Ash and Jay, yes Richardson might be able to make the grade in time, but it's asking an awful lot of a young kid talented as he is too shoulder a lot of the burden to improve our goals return.

We struggled for goals last season even with Vydra in the team post-Xmas, so why we'd even consider cashing in on him baffles me, the only circumstance where he should be let go is if a decent offer comes in, say £10m or so, and if we have a replacement already lined-up to immediately slot into the 1st team.
I must be missing something, could somebody please tell me why Wood will miss a large part of the campaign?

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Post by kentonclaret » Fri Jul 23, 2021 7:49 am

snapcrackleandpop wrote:
Fri Jul 23, 2021 7:36 am
I must be missing something, could somebody please tell me why Wood will miss a large part of the campaign?
World Cup qualification matches for NZ which has been condensed into a 6 week period in Jan/Feb 2022 where each country will face a hectic schedule of matches to complete the qualification process.

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Post by Hedontplayforyou » Fri Jul 23, 2021 7:53 am

We will have to hope that the other 3 senior forwards can fire some goals in this season more regularly then, or at least during those months
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Post by kentonclaret » Fri Jul 23, 2021 8:17 am

Hedontplayforyou wrote:
Fri Jul 23, 2021 7:53 am
We will have to hope that the other 2 senior forwards can fire some goals in this season more regularly then, or at least during those months

And keep fingers crossed that the hectic schedule of matches and travelling doesn't take too much of a toll on Chris fitness wise.

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Post by minnieclaret » Fri Jul 23, 2021 8:22 am

Hedontplayforyou wrote:
Fri Jul 23, 2021 7:53 am
We will have to hope that the other 2 senior forwards can fire some goals in this season more regularly then, or at least during those months
On the plus side we will have the next window to stress over.

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Post by Hedontplayforyou » Fri Jul 23, 2021 9:06 am

I actually think we will get a couple of wingers in before the end of the window , the sheer number of players we’ve been linked with thus far in the window suggests that we are very active indeed. The prices may seem too steep at the moment but I think some may drop in the coming weeks

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Post by ClaretAL » Fri Jul 23, 2021 9:11 am

Taking in to account the big money moves starting to happen i think the domino effect will soon kick in and next week we should see more activity as a whole.

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Post by warksclaret » Fri Jul 23, 2021 9:18 am

For me the need for a proper goal scorer have not been as great for a few years. We know Wood will have country duties. WE know that both Barnes and Rodriguez are prone to niggles and injuries and in terms of the PL both on the slow side. Its rare all four were available last season, and if SD was making substitutions it was predominantly in this area. You also need to see the combined PL league tally of combined goals of Barnes and Rodriguez and see that you would expect a good midfielder to surpass this total. Had it not been for Wood's goal we would be playing in the Championship. The defence has become our rock, goals gets you the points and survival.

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Post by maccclaret » Fri Jul 23, 2021 10:00 am

Goals make the game interesting, but 38 nil-nils would be enough to stay up most seasons.
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Post by warksclaret » Fri Jul 23, 2021 10:12 am

maccclaret wrote:
Fri Jul 23, 2021 10:00 am
Goals make the game interesting, but 38 nil-nils would be enough to stay up most seasons.
And based on the past 20 seasons we average about three of those a season.Keep a clean sheet and score a goal in every game and you win the PL.Goals make prizes

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Post by snapcrackleandpop » Fri Jul 23, 2021 10:16 am

kentonclaret wrote:
Fri Jul 23, 2021 7:49 am
World Cup qualification matches for NZ which has been condensed into a 6 week period in Jan/Feb 2022 where each country will face a hectic schedule of matches to complete the qualification process.
Many thanks KC.

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Post by Grimsdale » Fri Jul 23, 2021 10:43 am

kentonclaret wrote:
Fri Jul 23, 2021 7:49 am
World Cup qualification matches for NZ which has been condensed into a 6 week period in Jan/Feb 2022 where each country will face a hectic schedule of matches to complete the qualification process.
Nothing has been confirmed about this yet as far as I'm aware - at this stage the Oceania qualifiers looks likely to be held in the Middle East over a 15 day period in January. Because this will take it outside the normal FIFA international window, my understanding is that clubs are not obliged to release their players although Wood my ask to play for NZ like he did for the Olympics. There is a one week winter break in January as well as the FA Cup 3rd round matches so even if he does go, he may only miss a couple games, it shouldn't be anything like 2 months that some have suggested (unless there are all sorts of quarantine regulations by then that he has to go through).

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Fri Jul 23, 2021 10:59 am

Anyone fancy Willock at 20m?

Thought he looked good for Newcastle

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Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

Post by Quickenthetempo » Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:09 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Fri Jul 23, 2021 10:59 am
Anyone fancy Willock at 20m?

Thought he looked good for Newcastle
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Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

Post by lrac » Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:25 am

Do we have that sort of money ?

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