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Post by jedi_master » Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:01 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:48 am
I think you have to look at it from Dyches point of view.

He has nothing to gain from signing that contract. He is in the driving seat, he can leave until next summer to agree a package (where he could get more money). He is also a much more desirable manager if his contract is ran right down. He might have his eye on the Leicester job if Rodgers ends up going to a top club.

Nothing to back this up but I think Dyche will wait till the season starts before making decision.
He probably has several million to gain by way of pay increase, with the prospect of no guaranteed job at the end of this season if he doesn't? He doesn't appear to have been in the frame for any of the jobs this summer despite them being (on paper) all the relative step ups from us he would have (I imagine) believed were the obvious next steps for him.

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Post by fatboy47 » Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:11 am

It's pretty clear that other Prem clubs don't fancy Dyche.

Which should suit us. We can keep stinking the Prem out as long as he stays...should p1ss them all off no end.
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Post by KRBFC » Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:28 am

DCWat wrote:
Sun Jun 13, 2021 9:38 pm
It’s why I’d want Dyche heavily involved with succession planning, to try to mitigate the impact.

Hopefully the new board is developing a plan for this eventuality. Touch wood, it’ll be a while until it’s needed, but it will be and we have to be as prepared as is possible.
Yeah the problem is when does that planning take place given how fast managers can leave and also if we dropped soon as he left would that not be great for his image? I don’t for a second think he’d take enjoyment from our demise but does aiding us for when he leaves not make his job harder elsewhere? If he went to Palace his aim would be to keep them up whether that was at our expense or not.

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Post by onewillieirvine » Mon Jun 14, 2021 10:20 am

Breaking news on Sky.... In advanced talks with Ashley's reps

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Post by jojomk1 » Mon Jun 14, 2021 10:21 am

10:08
BURNLEY IN ADVANCED YOUNG TALKS

Burnley are in advanced negotiations with Ashley Young’s representatives over a free transfer for the Inter Milan left back.

The deal under discussion is for one year, with the option of a further 12 months.

Young has huge respect for Burnley manager Sean Dyche, who was his captain at Watford when he started his professional career.

It is not a done deal, but all parties increasingly hopeful.

So say SSN

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Post by williamjblazkowicz » Mon Jun 14, 2021 10:27 am

"Our squad is getting too old", said the Burnley fans. "We need to go young".

And so Burnley FC did.
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Post by jojomk1 » Mon Jun 14, 2021 10:32 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:48 am
I think you have to look at it from Dyches point of view.

He might have his eye on the Leicester job if Rodgers ends up going to a top club.

Nothing to back this up but I think Dyche will wait till the season starts before making decision.
More chance of Tarks going to Leicester than Dyche - doubt he will get a job with any of the top sides

Agree with the sentiment that he will not sign a new deal until he see's actual cash being spent on his choices by the owners

Also doubt he would want Tarks to go unless a replacement is already on the books so Pace will have to find the cash from somewhere

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Jun 14, 2021 10:53 am

jedi_master wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:01 am
He probably has several million to gain by way of pay increase, with the prospect of no guaranteed job at the end of this season if he doesn't? He doesn't appear to have been in the frame for any of the jobs this summer despite them being (on paper) all the relative step ups from us he would have (I imagine) believed were the obvious next steps for him.
He doesn’t but he much is a more desirable option with next to no compensation to pay. Especially if he is on a lower wage.

I just can’t see him signing until he knows all the other options have gone and he knows he’s going to be backed.

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:37 am

The sun are reporting Bruce is to be given a 50m war chest this summer.

If they can keep Maximam/Wilson and build on that, they will have a decent team.

Ashley has certainly backed Bruce, makes it strange he didn’t throw more money at Benitez at the time.

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Post by TheFamilyCat » Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:43 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:37 am
The sun are reporting Bruce is to be given a 50m war chest this summer.

If they can keep Maximam/Wilson and build on that, they will have a decent team.

Ashley has certainly backed Bruce, makes it strange he didn’t throw more money at Benitez at the time.
Depends if they spunk £40m of it on another Joelinton.

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:44 am

TheFamilyCat wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:43 am
Depends if they spunk £40m of it on another Joelinton.
Very true.

Reporting they are going to spend 30m on willock and 10m on Phillips.

Willock was great towards the end of the season.

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Post by gandhisflipflop » Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:44 am

50 million isn't a war chest by todays standards. As said above, if they make a 40m signing, then that's most of it gone already.

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:50 am

gandhisflipflop wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:44 am
50 million isn't a war chest by todays standards. As said above, if they make a 40m signing, then that's most of it gone already.
50m can get you two first teamers.

I would say that classes as a war chest. Well in Burnley terms it certainly does.

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Post by DCWat » Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:55 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:50 am
50m can get you two first teamers.

I would say that classes as a war chest. Well in Burnley terms it certainly does.
Have a read of the Guardian article that Chester linked (further back on this thread, I think) regarding press speculated ‘war chests’.

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Post by jojomk1 » Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:55 am

£30m for Willock ?

And people said Covid implications would bring prices down !!!

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:57 am

jojomk1 wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:55 am
£30m for Willock ?

And people said Covid implications would bring prices down !!!
To be fair he’s a young lad that has scored 8 goals in 14 games for Newcastle from midfield.

Never going to be available for cheap.

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Post by Chester Perry » Mon Jun 14, 2021 12:01 pm

gandhisflipflop wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:44 am
50 million isn't a war chest by todays standards. As said above, if they make a 40m signing, then that's most of it gone already.
particularly if it includes wages - of course if a club is to commit £50m in fees it is unlikely that it is more than £20m in upfront cash - only the likes of Manchester United, Manchester City and Chelsea can stump up the cash for big fees if necessary. it is not something they would normally choose to do, but are prepared to do if the situation demands.

It is not unusual if staged payments are to be made for the selling club to factor off the outstanding amount so they receive a full transfer fee minus the cost of selling the debt at a discount (usually that cost is built into the transfer fee. It is a more rare practice for a club to borrow the money to pay the whole fee up front.
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Post by NewClaret » Mon Jun 14, 2021 12:11 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:57 am
To be fair he’s a young lad that has scored 8 goals in 14 games for Newcastle from midfield.

Never going to be available for cheap.
Agree. He was instrumental although often from the bench. £30m for say potentially 10 years service isn’t too bad. I wish we were able to compete for those players.

I originally thought Arsenal would want to try and keep him but they have a BoE loan to pay off so he’s probably one that they’ll be willing to sacrifice if they get an offer on that scale though.

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Jun 14, 2021 12:15 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 12:11 pm
Agree. He was instrumental although often from the bench. £30m for say potentially 10 years service isn’t too bad. I wish we were able to compete for those players.

I originally thought Arsenal would want to try and keep him but they have a BoE loan to pay off so he’s probably one that they’ll be willing to sacrifice if they get an offer on that scale though.
I think another one of there young lads is worth looking at.

Reiss Nelson would be a good addition.

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Post by NewClaret » Mon Jun 14, 2021 12:15 pm

kentonclaret wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:49 am
According to today's BBC Gossip Column Crystal Palace are on the verge of tabling a £15m offer to sign Conor Gallagher from Chelsea on a permanent basis and they don't yet have a manager.
I’d be amazed if Chelsea were willing to let him go for £15m. And we should be all over it and competing if they were, if only for some tactical bidding!!!

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Post by gandhisflipflop » Mon Jun 14, 2021 12:16 pm

Ashley Young deal moving closer according to Sky Sports. If we can back that up with a younger winger then it will be a good signing to beef out the squad a bit too as it is going to take more than one window to repair this squad.

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Post by gandhisflipflop » Mon Jun 14, 2021 12:17 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:50 am
50m can get you two first teamers.

I would say that classes as a war chest. Well in Burnley terms it certainly does.
Absolutely 50 million isn't to be sniffed at, just the ever inflating prices mean that it can very easilly be spent on 1 average player. A war chest i would class as a massive budget.

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Post by NewClaret » Mon Jun 14, 2021 12:18 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 12:15 pm
I think another one of there young lads is worth looking at.

Reiss Nelson would be a good addition.
Yeah, he’d be a good option for our right. Never sure how London lads will settle up North though.

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Post by warksclaret » Mon Jun 14, 2021 12:29 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 12:15 pm
I’d be amazed if Chelsea were willing to let him go for £15m. And we should be all over it and competing if they were, if only for some tactical bidding!!!
Totally agree NC. I have suggested him for 4 or 5 posts. Great young energetic and athletic CM, who resembles the Dean Marney style of play. You would hope we already had our sights on him

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Post by Chester Perry » Mon Jun 14, 2021 12:35 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 12:15 pm
I’d be amazed if Chelsea were willing to let him go for £15m. And we should be all over it and competing if they were, if only for some tactical bidding!!!
that will come down to how serious they are about Haaland this window - the pure profit in selling off some of the young kids (and the combination of wage savings will help them past FFP). You would think that they would want more than £15m though
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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Jun 14, 2021 12:35 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 12:18 pm
Yeah, he’d be a good option for our right. Never sure how London lads will settle up North though.
Very much so, I just think it is promising that he had a loan in Germany. Would indicate he is not afraid to move around.

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Post by ClaretTony » Mon Jun 14, 2021 1:41 pm

Jakubs Tash wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:27 am
Jens Petter Hauge, AC Milan

Informs #Calciomercato that Burnley, Aston Villa and Wolfsburg would be interested in AC Milan's young Norwegian Jens Petter Hauge; the rossonero team wants to give him up so that he can gain more experience.
That would be interesting alongside Young, signing a player from each of the Milan clubs.

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Jun 14, 2021 2:07 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 1:41 pm
That would be interesting alongside Young, signing a player from each of the Milan clubs.
Certainly an interesting player, he had a decent season at Bodo/Glimt the other year.

I highlighted signing Philip Zinckernagel from them about a year ago. He had a really impressive season that year scoring 19 goals and getting 18 assists. He ended up at Watford where he had an ok second half of the season.

There is a massive gap between that league and ours but would be worth the risk at a reasonable fee.

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Post by ClaretTony » Mon Jun 14, 2021 2:10 pm

I’d seen he was at Bodo/Glimt and was scratching my head at our link with them. It’s come to me now, it’s where Dane Richards went from us.

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Post by s6t9a2f3f » Mon Jun 14, 2021 2:12 pm

Lets hope they realise getting players in early before pre season starts absolutely vital particularly the way we train and footballing style. We will not sign top players that are involved in the euros so hopefully lets make our mark (and let them make their mark) and get at least some business done handy. We started last season with 3 points from 7 games so 3 from 21 and it got us backtracking for a lot of the season, we have to grow but learn from our errors and be ready to at least start on the front foot. It will be interesting if the new owners take a different stance or be vocal and support the old regime in how hard it is to recruit the right players at the right price and were scrambling around in the last weeks of window getting nowhere.

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Post by ClaretTony » Mon Jun 14, 2021 2:19 pm

jojomk1 wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:55 am
£30m for Willock ?

And people said Covid implications would bring prices down !!!
Nothing brings the price down for some clubs. Looked good for Newcastle but that’s hell of a fee.

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Jun 14, 2021 2:32 pm

Matthias Svanberg been linked by sports witness.

Not the most reliable but thought I would share

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Post by ClaretTony » Mon Jun 14, 2021 2:33 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 2:32 pm
Matthias Svanberg been linked by sports witness.

Not the most reliable but thought I would share
I don’t think any of them are reliable

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Post by williamjblazkowicz » Mon Jun 14, 2021 2:33 pm

Young's obviously still very fit and playing at a high level. That's not in question. So why are some posters so worried about his age? Put it this way, if we can get a player of his quality and with his experience on a free, how can we be upset about that? Even with his wages at perhaps 1-2 million per season, it's nothing compared to what we get for staying up. Plus, it might just free up some of the budget for strengthening elsewhere.
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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Jun 14, 2021 2:44 pm

williamjblazkowicz wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 2:33 pm
Young's obviously still very fit and playing at a high level. That's not in question. So why are some posters so worried about his age? Put it this way, if we can get a player of his quality and with his experience on a free, how can we be upset about that? Even with his wages at perhaps 1-2 million per season, it's nothing compared to what we get for staying up. Plus, it might just free up some of the budget for strengthening elsewhere.
I think nearly everyone would accept it if funds were to spent elsewhere. If this is it you can understand the negativity

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Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Mon Jun 14, 2021 2:46 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 2:44 pm
I think nearly everyone would accept it if funds were to spent elsewhere. If this is it you can understand the negativity
Young isn't it though is he?
Collins at Stoke is another.
Its also still only bloody June...
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Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Mon Jun 14, 2021 2:47 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 2:44 pm
I think nearly everyone would accept it if funds were to spent elsewhere. If this is it you can understand the negativity
So some people are whinging due to the idea we might be signing Ashley Young and then we are done ?

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Post by ClaretTony » Mon Jun 14, 2021 2:48 pm

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 2:47 pm
So some people are whinging due to the idea we might be signing Ashley Young and then we are done ?
Seemed the negativity was down to his age

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Post by Jakubclaret » Mon Jun 14, 2021 2:49 pm

williamjblazkowicz wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 2:33 pm
Young's obviously still very fit and playing at a high level. That's not in question. So why are some posters so worried about his age? Put it this way, if we can get a player of his quality and with his experience on a free, how can we be upset about that? Even with his wages at perhaps 1-2 million per season, it's nothing compared to what we get for staying up. Plus, it might just free up some of the budget for strengthening elsewhere.
https://fieldinsider.com/footballers-retire-in-30s/

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Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Mon Jun 14, 2021 2:50 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 2:48 pm
Seemed the negativity was down to his age
I don't even think it is that, it is the same posters on any signing. Genuinely have no idea why the bother, nothing about the club makes them happy, they would get so much more out of life if the took an interest in something they enjoyed
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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Jun 14, 2021 2:51 pm

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 2:47 pm
So some people are whinging due to the idea we might be signing Ashley Young and then we are done ?
I think Young is a good signing for RM. think his crossing to wood will be a major benefit.

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Post by ClaretTony » Mon Jun 14, 2021 2:51 pm

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 2:50 pm
I don't even think it is that, it is the same posters on any signing. Genuinely have no idea why the bother, nothing about the club makes them happy, they would get so much more out of life if the took an interest in something they enjoyed
That’s what those against were suggesting

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Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Mon Jun 14, 2021 2:52 pm

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 2:50 pm
I don't even think it is that, it is the same posters on any signing. Genuinely have no idea why the bother, nothing about the club makes them happy, they would get so much more out of life if the took an interest in something they enjoyed
Apparently they don't get a choice though, some have said its in their blood etc and have to watch something they don't like and spend thousands doing so whilst rarely being positive about anything the club does.

Odd but that's their way of thinking, personally I'd ring the police, it's clear they're being forced to hand over their money

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Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Mon Jun 14, 2021 2:53 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 2:52 pm
Apparently they don't get a choice though, some have said its in their blood etc and have to watch something they don't like and spend thousands doing so whilst rarely being positive about anything the club does.

Odd but that's their way of thinking, personally I'd ring the police, it's clear they're being forced to hand over their money

I seriously have doubts that some of the most negative on here spend £5 let alone thousands
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Post by williamjblazkowicz » Mon Jun 14, 2021 2:56 pm

Of course they retire in their 30s. That can mean anything from 30 to 39 :D However, Young is clearly not like most footballers. That's evident from him playing regularly for Inter Milan and winning Serie A at age 35.

We know that Ashley Young is fit. Very fit for his age. In fact, he's got very little injury history: https://www.transfermarkt.com/ashley-yo ... eler/14086

We're not talking about some player who is winding down his career. He's still performing at a high level.

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Post by Jakubclaret » Mon Jun 14, 2021 3:01 pm

williamjblazkowicz wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 2:56 pm
Of course they retire in their 30s. That can mean anything from 30 to 39 :D However, Young is clearly not like most footballers. That's evident from him playing regularly for Inter Milan and winning Serie A at age 35.

We know that Ashley Young is fit. Very fit for his age. In fact, he's got very little injury history: https://www.transfermarkt.com/ashley-yo ... eler/14086

We're not talking about some player who is winding down his career. He's still performing at a high level.
You asked a question I answered it, it’s 1 of them kind of signings that some people will be concerned about due to his age, it’s a fact of life we all get older & find the physical side of life more difficult. I hope it works out I really do, nothing would make me more happier than to be proven wrong.

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Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

Post by OakworthClaret » Mon Jun 14, 2021 3:02 pm

If the club can’t find a pen I’ll drive over and drop one off

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Post by PremierLeagueClass » Mon Jun 14, 2021 3:10 pm

It’s a decent statement from the owners if it happens. Turning down Inter for Burnley!

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Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Jun 14, 2021 3:15 pm

OakworthClaret wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 3:02 pm
If the club can’t find a pen I’ll drive over and drop one off
A few years ago the club would use a brand new pen for a player to sign the forms with. They were special pens which were then presented to the player.

It was stopped as a cost cutting exercise.

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Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

Post by williamjblazkowicz » Mon Jun 14, 2021 3:56 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 3:15 pm
A few years ago the club would use a brand new pen for a player to sign the forms with. They were special pens which were then presented to the player.

It was stopped as a cost cutting exercise.
Are you trying to tell me we can't afford a jumbo pack of biros? :lol:
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