Vegas Claret wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 22, 2021 4:27 pm

who ?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milot_Rashica

You'd need to spend time watching German football to know who he is or if he's anygood.

First time I've heard of him is when Newcastleclaret93 mentioned him.

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 22, 2021 4:27 pm

who ?

24 year old attacking midfielder from werder Bremen.

Got 32 goal contributions in 80 odd games

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 22, 2021 4:26 pm

Norwich have just signed Raschica, that came out of the blue. A bit of coup on there behalf

I mentioned him on a thread on this board along with a few others a while back.

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 22, 2021 4:36 pm

24 year old attacking midfielder from werder Bremen.

Got 32 goal contributions in 80 odd games

Seeing as Teemu Pukki still can't trap a bag of cement by the looks of it they might need his goals if Norwich are to stay up.

Watford Observer indicating Stoke have agreed a fee with Watford to sign centre back Ben Wilmot, would seem that Collins’ replacement is being lined up.....
https://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/sport ... cal-stoke/

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 22, 2021 4:26 pm

Norwich have just signed Raschica, that came out of the blue. A bit of coup on there behalf

Turned Villa down last season on the basis they would be in a relegation battle

The 3 lowest scoring teams in the PL Season 20/21 were Sheffield United, Fulham and Burnley.

If we are to avoid relegation next season we need to bolster our attacking options especially from midfield.

Very good signing for Norwich, one that I would have thought we’d look at for an affordable price.

KRBFC wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 22, 2021 1:57 pm

The Liverpool central defenders were all over the place against us, I lost count the amount of times we pumped it forward and the CBs either let the ball bounce or it beat them and we were in behind. It was like Sunday league defending, they were constantly caught out and it didn't even need a flick on.

Didn’t he get MoM?

kentonclaret wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 22, 2021 5:32 pm

The 3 lowest scoring teams in the PL Season 20/21 were Sheffield United, Fulham and Burnley.

If we are to avoid relegation next season we need to bolster our attacking options especially from midfield.

And we only scored three more goals when we finished seventh

Chester Perry wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 22, 2021 3:12 pm

essentially they have got people to pay for a brand not the player when it comes to the young ones they are discarding, anyone that falls for that is making a big mistake

Not often you’re that outspoken Chester. Like it !

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 22, 2021 6:01 pm

And we only scored three more goals when we finished seventh

The biggest issue in terms of goals is where they come from if and when our strikers are out of form.

We’ve done brilliantly defensively - if we could retain this whilst adding a few extra goals from midfield and defence, it could be worth a good few extra points.

2-3 goals from Brownhill would be so good next season

Elizabeth wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 22, 2021 6:34 pm

2-3 goals from Brownhill would be so good next season

His aim this season has to be to claim a regular starting spot in central midfield. I’m yet to be convinced he’s up to that standard - hopefully I’m wrong.

I’m sure he’s on a massive salary, though I’m not sure quite how big - but seeing him punditing tonight for ITV has reminded me that Andros Townsend is out of a contract.

Would he not be a really good option for a couple of years? Proper London lad I know, but has played for Newcastle and had a spell at Leeds too on loan so perhaps not entirely against a Northern move. I can think of worse ways to spend Ashley Young’s wages personally.

jedi_master wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 22, 2021 7:18 pm

I’m sure he’s on a massive salary, though I’m not sure quite how big - but seeing him punditing tonight for ITV has reminded me that Andros Townsend is out of a contract.

Would he not be a really good option for a couple of years? Proper London lad I know, but has played for Newcastle and had a spell at Leeds too on loan so perhaps not entirely against a Northern move. I can think of worse ways to spend Ashley Young’s wages personally.

He’s bobbins. The Jimmy Mac upper will be in danger everytime he cuts onto his left foot

jedi_master wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 22, 2021 7:18 pm

I’m sure he’s on a massive salary, though I’m not sure quite how big - but seeing him punditing tonight for ITV has reminded me that Andros Townsend is out of a contract.

Would he not be a really good option for a couple of years? Proper London lad I know, but has played for Newcastle and had a spell at Leeds too on loan so perhaps not entirely against a Northern move. I can think of worse ways to spend Ashley Young’s wages personally.

If he's out of contract and with no club them surely his salary is £0

Local cricketer wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 22, 2021 7:20 pm

He’s bobbins. The Jimmy Mac upper will be in danger everytime he cuts onto his left foot

In fact I’d rather have Andy Townsend

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 22, 2021 4:27 pm

who ?

They are a football team from Norfolk I think.

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 22, 2021 4:32 pm

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milot_Rashica

You'd need to spend time watching German football to know who he is or if he's anygood.

First time I've heard of him is when Newcastleclaret93 mentioned him.

I used to watch loads of footy, I've got less and less interested over the last few years so he's a name I'd never heard of

Local cricketer wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 22, 2021 7:24 pm

In fact I’d rather have Andy Townsend

I’ve always thought he looked decent when I’ve seen him for Palace.

Re Townsend, the clue is in his name, Dross

NewClaret wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 22, 2021 8:45 pm

I’ve always thought he looked decent when I’ve seen him for Palace.

For years he seemed to turn up playing for various clubs against us on loan but has settled at Palace and done well for them.

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 22, 2021 9:50 pm

For years he seemed to turn up playing for various clubs against us on loan but has settled at Palace and done well for them.

I like him Tony. Think he could be an astute Dyche signing on a free, assuming we’re planning to use up all our budget on CB’s this summer!

Telegraph reporting Liverpool have been approached by Burnley for Phillips

Apparently West Ham don’t want to sign Tarkowski after all.

dermotdermot wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 22, 2021 10:47 pm

Apparently West Ham don’t want to sign Tarkowski after all.

They’ve obviously listened to their fans who say he’s not worth £10m

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 22, 2021 10:41 pm

Telegraph reporting Liverpool have been approached by Burnley for Phillips

Percy the author, so likely legit.

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 22, 2021 10:41 pm

Telegraph reporting Liverpool have been approached by Burnley for Phillips

NewClaret wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 22, 2021 11:08 pm

Percy the author, so likely legit.

Percy's name on it as is Mike McGrath who was with the Sun, but the author is Chris Bascombe who is the Telegraph's Merseyside reporter. I don't know how reliable he is.

Rumours on Twitter suggest we have offered £8.3m (oddly specific) for Phillips, but that they want £10m.

Phillips looked very solid and very ‘Burnley’ against us at the Turf when he scored. He’s a good age at 24 but pretty inexperienced all told, £10m seems a fair amount considering the club he is coming from in my book.

Again, you surely have to think if we’re bringing two CB’s in that we have a buyer in the wings for Tarky.

Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 22, 2021 11:44 am

Well, that is certainly a point of view

That’s true, but please let’s see if the information you provide or believe to be true happens & then maybe some credence can be attached, I suspect completely different let’s see who’s right & if I’m wrong I’ll apologise.

dermotdermot wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 22, 2021 10:47 pm

Apparently West Ham don’t want to sign Tarkowski after all.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... owski.html

Jimmy Dunne to leave according to The Athletic

randomclaret2 wrote: ↑

Wed Jun 23, 2021 9:17 am

Jimmy Dunne to leave according to The Athletic

byeeeeee

Origi is available for between 6-8m.

Is he worth a punt?

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Wed Jun 23, 2021 9:37 am

Origi is available for between 6-8m.

Is he worth a punt?

No, he's crap. Save the powder and blow it on someone far better!!

I'm hoping we're signing 2 defenders this summer but keeping Tarks for another year, (at least!), with the idea of replacing both Mee and Tarks over the next 18 months. It is needed.

Still need strengthening in other areas too, but all looking positive so far...

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Wed Jun 23, 2021 9:37 am

Origi is available for between 6-8m.

Is he worth a punt?

He wouldn't sign for Burnley I wouldn't imagine. He'll go abroad.

Dark Cloud wrote: ↑

Wed Jun 23, 2021 9:38 am

No, he's crap. Save the powder and blow it on someone far better!!

He would be a great player for a smaller club than Liverpool, but he will be on big wages I would assume. I would guess West Ham or abroad.

burnley007 wrote: ↑

Wed Jun 23, 2021 9:39 am

He would be a great player for a smaller club than Liverpool, but he will be on big wages I would assume. I would guess West Ham or abroad.

Liverpool aren't offloading him at that price (if true) because he's any good. They don't rate him and want shut and we can spend our limited funds much more wisely imo.

If we are signing two centre halves, then Tarks has to be going surely?

Liverpool aren't offloading him at that price (if true) because he's any good. They don't rate him and want shut and we can spend our limited funds much more wisely imo.

I must ring BFC straight away to let them know that one of the best judges in the land of defenders in Sean Dyche has been doing it all wrong! All this time he should have been using the player valuation to determine quality!

Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑

Wed Jun 23, 2021 9:41 am

If we are signing two centre halves, then Tarks has to be going surely?

Gibson hasnt been replaced and it seems Dunne may now also be leaving

randomclaret2 wrote: ↑

Wed Jun 23, 2021 9:51 am

Gibson hasnt been replaced and it seems Dunne may now also be leaving

Mee, Collins, Philips, Long

Thats four

I'm not sure we need more than that tbh, especially considering how sparse we are elsewhere

If we are signing two centre halves, then Tarks has to be going surely?

Tarks wants away and Ben Mee is not far off being 32 years of age and the backups are adequate stop-gaps for injuries but not long-term replacements... We absolutely need two Center Backs, irrespectively of Tarks going or not! If he stays another year or we get near 20m for him, we will be happy either way, especially if we get 2 quality central defenders in first. This is what we should have done a few windows back for continuity so it looks like SD is being backed and the new board understand SD's thinking and the way football works! Still early days but looking promising.

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑

Wed Jun 23, 2021 1:56 am

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... owski.html

Said it before, he is massive for us...but im not sure he ticks the boxes for other top 6-8 teams...these lot want more than just a defender & Im not sure he has that in his locker.

dermotdermot wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 22, 2021 10:47 pm

Apparently West Ham don’t want to sign Tarkowski after all.

Early days in the negotiations, you need to put that statement into a translator - maybe Google's?
BFC say: We want to keep JT and are prepared to let his contract run out = your offer needs to be higher.
WHU say: We're no longer interested and are pursuing other targets = your asking price needs to be lower.

IMO our signing of Collins early (very early for us!) in the transfer window was necessary to restore the options/negotiation position that we lost with the Ben Gibson debacle; therefore we're now better able to consider life without JT and the likelihood of us selling him if the price is high enough has increased. Should negotiations progress well with regard to our signing the Liverpool lad too - I don't think that one'll need to be signed and sealed beforehand just be going the right way - then JT'll move to WHU (possibly Wolves?) for a mutually acceptable fee.

Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑

Wed Jun 23, 2021 9:54 am

Mee, Collins, Philips, Long

Thats four

I'm not sure we need more than that tbh, especially considering how sparse we are elsewhere

I take your point LC , but it may be that Collins perhaps will have to wait 12 months, maybe for Tarkowski to leave, before becoming a regular, in the same way as Tarkowski himself did. Collins can also play at Right back , where we currently have a 36 year old and s 32 year old in the squad.

If we’re banking on a 20 year old with no Prem experience to replace Tarkowski, I’ll be worried. Collins looks like a good signing but one for the future and possibly RB cover first. If Tarks is off I think we need someone more experienced- not even sure Phillips ticks that box really.