Jakubclaret wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 24, 2021 9:40 am

I agree, it’s strange how some of us have resigned ourselves to the concept that 2 players 24 years & 27 years aren’t PL standard based on a few games & also the assumption that any sort of improvement is beyond them whilst being so young, in BPF case he hasn’t even reached mid twenties yet, it’s more than conceivable that he could have another 15 years ahead left in the professional game.

That's my opinion and shared by many on this forum. BPF played so badly that SD presumably in liaison with Billy Mercer elected to play Will Norris in the final two PL games. If SD thought he had the potential he would not have thought twice, once it was known Pope was out, about automatically starting him in the last two games. The manager sent a clear message out by taking this decision. Its clear to me, and the coaches watch these guys every day, that there is a need to strengthen the number two GK slot, hence us being linked with a few keepers. Yes a loan of BPF could benefit all parties but the position is too critical in the PL and cost you points as Norris proved in the last game v relegated Sheff Utd, Sadly for both these keepers Pope and Heaton are one hell of an act to follow

Down_Rover wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 24, 2021 9:55 am

Someone like Begovic would be good cover for a year while we send BPF on loan foe a year

Begovic - not for me. Every time I see him he makes a mistake

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 24, 2021 8:58 am

Very easy to remember number - it was good until work blocked it

Is that the reason for being put on gardening leave?

bfcmatt wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 24, 2021 10:45 am

Is that the reason for being put on gardening leave?

Might have been other 0898 numbers

bfcmatt wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 24, 2021 10:45 am

Is that the reason for being put on gardening leave?

claretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 24, 2021 10:51 am

Might have been other 0898 numbers

Ha ha - gardening leave was 1991, it was the next company who blocked the calls. They actually changed the number from 0898 some years later because of the obvious. Did it become 0891?

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 24, 2021 10:43 am

Begovic - not for me. Every time I see him he makes a mistake

Yes, he's got the experience factor but too many experiences making mistakes. Was he the one in goal for Bournemouth a couple of seasons ago when we won at their place 1-3 or have I got the wrong player?

Silkyskills1 wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 24, 2021 11:19 am

Yes, he's got the experience factor but too many experiences making mistakes. Was he the one in goal for Bournemouth a couple of seasons ago when we won at their place 1-3 or have I got the wrong player?

It was Begovic

https://www.uptheclarets.com/clarets-go-cherry-picking

Collins to be announced imminently, for a record fee, 5 year deal.

warksclaret wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 24, 2021 10:37 am

That's my opinion and shared by many on this forum. BPF played so badly that SD presumably in liaison with Billy Mercer elected to play Will Norris in the final two PL games. If SD thought he had the potential he would not have thought twice, once it was known Pope was out, about automatically starting him in the last two games. The manager sent a clear message out by taking this decision. Its clear to me, and the coaches watch these guys every day, that there is a need to strengthen the number two GK slot, hence us being linked with a few keepers. Yes a loan of BPF could benefit all parties but the position is too critical in the PL and cost you points as Norris proved in the last game v relegated Sheff Utd, Sadly for both these keepers Pope and Heaton are one hell of an act to follow

I presume this is the same BFP who was signed in 2019 (with a nod of approval from SD and Mercer)
I presume this is the same BPF who was then given an extended contract just 12 months later, up to 2024 with the option of a further year, again with the approval of SD and Mercer

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk ... e-20881970

A deal/ loan of this guy plus Collins and then we could make some money on Tarks

claretandy wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 24, 2021 12:02 pm

Collins to be announced imminently, for a record fee, 5 year deal.

Sorry, but the fans can't cope with such a big deal being done so early if true.

claretandy wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 24, 2021 12:02 pm

Collins to be announced imminently, for a record fee, 5 year deal.

Breaking our transfer record for him?

jedi_master wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 24, 2021 12:22 pm

Breaking our transfer record for him?

From reading a couple of articles this morning, it looks like £12m but with very achievable add-ons which would take it to a record fee.

jojomk1 wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 24, 2021 12:08 pm

I presume this is the same BFP who was signed in 2019 (with a nod of approval from SD and Mercer)
I presume this is the same BPF who was then given an extended contract just 12 months later, up to 2024 with the option of a further year, again with the approval of SD and Mercer

YES the same guy, but extending contracts does not guarantee PL success. Look at Long-numerous extensions and probably 4th choice CB. Definitely not a player who you would want to appear regularly if you had long term injuries. Brady another example of a contract extension

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 24, 2021 12:15 pm

Sorry, but the fans can't cope with such a big deal being done so early if true.

Certainly doesn't go along with the stupid comments like we won't sign anyone until Dyche signs or we have no money so won't sign anyone.

claretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 24, 2021 12:41 pm

Certainly doesn't go along with the stupid comments like we won't sign anyone until Dyche signs or we have no money so won't sign anyone.

Nothing like jumping the gun, could we possibly wait until the signing is confirmed until it is there’s every possibility you could be the daft 1, correct me if I’m wrong we have agreed a price with Stoke, we still need to agree personal terms with the player & also a medical needs to be passed.

Jakubclaret wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 24, 2021 12:47 pm

Nothing like jumping the gun, could we possibly wait until the signing is confirmed until it is there’s every possibility you could be the daft 1, correct me if I’m wrong we have agreed a price with Stoke, we still need to agree personal terms with the player & also a medical needs to be passed.

?

claretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 24, 2021 12:50 pm

?

When/if it becomes a done deal then maybe it’s time to start crowing.

Jakubclaret wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 24, 2021 12:54 pm

When/if it becomes a done deal then maybe it’s time to start crowing.

I believe it's done

Jakubclaret wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 24, 2021 12:54 pm

When/if it becomes a done deal then maybe it’s time to start crowing.

I am just relieved... relieved I don't understand your posts

claretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 24, 2021 1:00 pm

I am just relieved... relieved I don't understand your posts

You will have to post me confirmation that it’s confirmed because everywhere I’m looking I can’t see anything just as much as you don’t comprehend my posts
It’s all yours

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 24, 2021 12:58 pm

I believe it's done

Hope you've got your article prepared CT.

tiger76 wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 24, 2021 1:04 pm

Hope you've got your article prepared CT.

I believe it's done - only one wasted so far this summer

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 24, 2021 12:58 pm

I believe it's done

I won't believe it until I have read your ( pending) article

Young?

boatshed bill wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 24, 2021 1:06 pm

I won't believe it until I have read your ( pending) article

I can publish the much longer Ashley Young one (there was more to write about) if you like

How are they going to announce it they can't do a video with him hold the home shirt we haven't released it yet

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 24, 2021 1:04 pm

I believe it's done - only one wasted so far this summer

That sounds like there are others ready! Not expecting you to name names but is that so?

Crewe claret wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 24, 2021 1:11 pm

How are they going to announce it they can't do a video with him hold the home shirt we haven't released it yet

I never thought of that - better hold it back

Crewe claret wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 24, 2021 1:11 pm

How are they going to announce it they can't do a video with him hold the home shirt we haven't released it yet

Gorilla playing the drums then a banner across the screen saying Welcome Nathan not Phil as he removes the gorilla head

Petersa wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 24, 2021 1:20 pm

That sounds like there are others ready! Not expecting you to name names but is that so?

Sounds like he'd done one for Young...

I guessed that but are there others?

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 24, 2021 12:58 pm

I believe it's done

Is this the earliest we've made a summer signing in Dyche's reign?

Anyone want to get in early wishing Sean Dyche "Happy Birthday" for Monday 28th?

UTC

FeedTheArf wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 24, 2021 1:45 pm

Is this the earliest we've made a summer signing in Dyche's reign?

Tom Heaton arrived in mid May in 2013

FeedTheArf wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 24, 2021 1:45 pm

Is this the earliest we've made a summer signing in Dyche's reign?

Heaton was announced in May but the deal didn’t go through until July when the window opened.

BFC123 wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 24, 2021 2:32 pm

Heaton was announced in May but the deal didn’t go through until July when the window opened.

Lowton 22nd June 2015

Crewe claret wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 24, 2021 1:11 pm

How are they going to announce it they can't do a video with him hold the home shirt we haven't released it yet

With a scarf ?

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 24, 2021 2:41 pm

Lowton 22nd June 2015

So the earliest in 6 years. Hopefully this is the start of us getting more organised and being more proactive in windows instead of waiting for deals to fall into our lap.

don't forget the season was elongated so it needs to be worked out in days from the last game of the previous season

Before we get into how long it takes, lets get it over the line.
Does seem encouraging though.

Yeh and it’s given Chester and Roy a bit of a breather

KRBFC wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 24, 2021 12:26 am

He struggled for Liverpool badly, MOM against us but he scored a goal and kept a clean sheet through poor finishing from us. Go back and watch the game, their defence was shocking

Can’t of been that shocking if we didn’t score! If he plays shocking and keeps a clean sheet I’ll take that type of player any day, imagine what he’ll do when he doesn’t have a shocker?
Look at Ben Mee when he first came in, he didn’t look anything particularly good, but look at what regular games did for him.
Phillips will be a good bit of business.

buzzclarets79 wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 24, 2021 3:48 pm

Can’t of been that shocking if we didn’t score! If he plays shocking and keeps a clean sheet I’ll take that type of player any day, imagine what he’ll do when he doesn’t have a shocker?
Look at Ben Mee when he first came in, he didn’t look anything particularly good, but look at what regular games did for him.
Phillips will be a good bit of business.

I am on KRBFC side on this one.

I understand the Collins transfer fee, he is a fantastic young defender. That is stokes youngest ever captain.

But I just don’t get breaking our transfer record on a 24 year old lad that has barely even played. I feel this will be another Ibe/ Solanke type signing. Your paying for the name rather than the ability.

Collins has signed - official.

good stuff

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 24, 2021 3:56 pm

good stuff

Great signing

Boss Hogg wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 24, 2021 2:52 pm

With a scarf ?

Scarf - Official!

Best part is the new owners stuck to the tradition of signing players on a Thursday

Pace: “We are extremely pleased to have secured the services of Nathan, who has been much sought after as one of the most promising young players in the country," said Burnley chairman Alan Pace.

"We believe he will be an excellent addition and we see his signing as an ideal start to our summer’s business and the new collaborative approach to transfer activity now in place at the club, through our technical committee that involves the manager and his coaching staff, the scouting and recruitment teams, along with our data analytics department.”