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Re: Today's Games
Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 10:12 pm
by Goalposts
Rice and Philips were totally pedestrian in the game and that’s doing a disservice to the pace of pedestrians, against a France or Belgium there needed against Scotland another wrong selection
Re: Today's Games
Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 10:12 pm
by BenWickes
Says it all about the game. Scotland players and fans will be celebrating for days they got a draw. England fans at least are disappointed. Clearly they wanted it more but good God that was poor. We really should be, on paper at least; be beating Scotland and heavily!
Re: Today's Games
Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 10:14 pm
by ClaretTony
beddie wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 10:04 pm
Next game we need to drop Kane and replace him with Calvert Lewin. I keep harping on about Sterling but apart from his pace he’s a bloody awful footballer.
Southgate talks about picking players in form and then he plays Sterling who has not had a good season.
Re: Today's Games
Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 10:24 pm
by jedi_master
I’d drop Shaw, James, Mings, Sterling, Foden and Phillips for the next game, personally.
Pickford
Walker Maguire Stones Chilwell
Sancho Henderson Rice Mount Grealish
Kane
(If Henderson and Maguire are fit, obviously).
Re: Today's Games
Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 10:24 pm
by Vegas Claret
Southgate is just an FA yes man hence it's been Southgateout from day one
Re: Today's Games
Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 10:26 pm
by Vegas Claret
jedi_master wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 10:24 pm
I’d drop Shaw, James, Mings, Sterling, Foden and Phillips for the next game, personally.
Pickford
Walker Maguire Stones Chilwell
Sancho Henderson Rice Mount Grealish
Kane
(If Henderson and Maguire are fit, obviously).
I hope Vydra plays and scores 5
Re: Today's Games
Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 10:27 pm
by BurnleyFC
Congratulations to Scotland for winning Euro 2020 against all the odds (you’d think they had they way they’re reacting)
They’ll probably still get beat by Croatia and finish bottom on one point.
Re: Today's Games
Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 10:27 pm
by BurnleyFC
Vegas Claret wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 10:26 pm
I hope Vydra plays and scores 5
Re: Today's Games
Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 10:31 pm
by ClaretTony
BurnleyFC wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 10:27 pm
Congratulations to Scotland for winning Euro 2020 against all the odds (you’d think they had they way they’re reacting)
They’ll probably still get beat by Croatia and finish bottom on one point.
The Scots have always been like that.
Re: Today's Games
Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 10:33 pm
by Dyched
BurnleyFC wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 10:27 pm
Congratulations to Scotland for winning Euro 2020 against all the odds (you’d think they had they way they’re reacting)
They’ll probably still get beat by Croatia and finish bottom on one point.
It’s weird. Giving it the big un down in London today. Whilst Rangers will take more fans to some remote village in Bangladesh.
Re: Today's Games
Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 10:46 pm
by boatshed bill
I thought Mings and Pickford played quite well
Re: Today's Games
Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 10:52 pm
by IWOODLOVETT
Reading this comments on this thread is laughable.
It reminds me of the fans of the big time Charlie rich clubs that our team faces week in week out when the expected result doesn’t work out for them.
Quite simply Scotland gave a Burnleyesque performance and deserved everything they got (and more). Quite frankly Scotland were underestimated and discounted before the kick-off - exactly as our warriors are by the media, the pundits and by the opposition before most Prem. games.
Burnley FC survives as a top tier club in spite of the so-called superior quality of the rich boys and largely because of the arrogance that others consistently display in consistently writing us off.
How ironic therefore to see comments of the England fans on here commenting like the fans of the “big six”, suggesting that a walk-over was missed and not complimenting Scotland on a fighting Burnley-like performance.
Well done Scotland.
Re: Today's Games
Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 10:58 pm
by Zlatan
Quality from Specsavers
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Re: Today's Games
Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 10:59 pm
by dermotdermot
jedi_master wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 10:24 pm
I’d drop Shaw, James, Mings, Sterling, Foden and Phillips for the next game, personally.
Pickford
Walker Maguire Stones Chilwell
Sancho Henderson Rice Mount Grealish
Kane
(If Henderson and Maguire are fit, obviously).
You'd play Grealish on today's performance. He was absolute shite. The game was gathering momentum when Southgate took Foden off and put that big girl's blouse on. All he did was shimmy around a bit and go down. Foden was the last person you needed to take off.
Re: Today's Games
Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 11:07 pm
by boatshed bill
I'd have hooked Kane and Sterling at about 55 minutes.
You can't blame midfielders for lack of movement ahead of them.
Oh, and I'd have hooked Phillips after 10 mins
Re: Today's Games
Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 11:36 pm
by tiger76
The most boring day of the tournament so far.
Sweden-Slovakia was hardly a thriller although Isak impressed again.
Croatia-Czech Republic had it's moments, but it hardly set the pulses racing.
And that brings me to the most boring game of the tournament thus far, all that hype, and then both teams deliver a snoozefest of a game.
Thank heavens some of the big boys come out to play tomorrow, we might actually get some excitement and goals, which I believe is supposed to be what the game is about after all.
Re: Today's Games
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 1:41 pm
by tiger76
Hungary-France 1st up we might actually see some proper footy today and plenty of goals.
Re: Today's Games
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 2:50 pm
by Vegas Claret
Hungary 1 France 0, only time Hungary have been in the French half, France have missed 3 easy chances. Great to see a crowd going crazy
Re: Today's Games
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 2:56 pm
by tiger76
Makes the 2nd half interesting, but I still think France will turn it around.
Although if Hungary do go on to win this game it really opens the group up, and also puts huge pressure on Germany and Portugal in the later KO.
England won't find the trip to Hungary in September easy at all on this evidence.
Fantastic atmosphere and that was even prior to the goal.
Re: Today's Games
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:07 pm
by aclaretinstevenage
IWOODLOVETT wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 10:52 pm
Reading this comments on this thread is laughable.
It reminds me of the fans of the big time Charlie rich clubs that our team faces week in week out when the expected result doesn’t work out for them.
Quite simply Scotland gave a Burnleyesque performance and deserved everything they got (and more). Quite frankly Scotland were underestimated and discounted before the kick-off - exactly as our warriors are by the media, the pundits and by the opposition before most Prem. games.
Burnley FC survives as a top tier club in spite of the so-called superior quality of the rich boys and largely because of the arrogance that others consistently display in consistently writing us off.
How ironic therefore to see comments of the England fans on here commenting like the fans of the “big six”, suggesting that a walk-over was missed and not complimenting Scotland on a fighting Burnley-like performance.
Well done Scotland.
Agree with every word here well said that man/person!
Re: Today's Games
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:08 pm
by Vegas Claret
tiger76 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 2:56 pm
Makes the 2nd half interesting, but I still think France will turn it around.
Although if Hungary do go on to win this game it really opens the group up, and also puts huge pressure on Germany and Portugal in the later KO.
England won't find the trip to Hungary in September easy at all on this evidence.
Fantastic atmosphere and that was even prior to the goal.
Huge 45 for France, lose this and they will more than likely need to beat Portugal to avoid going out
edit: That Hungarian stadium looks brilliant
Re: Today's Games
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:20 pm
by ClaretTony
Vegas Claret wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:08 pm
That Hungarian stadium looks brilliant
I’m told the player it’s named after wasn’t bad either
Re: Today's Games
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:27 pm
by tiger76
1-1 what a pass from Lloris.
Re: Today's Games
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:28 pm
by Buxtonclaret
Bugger.
Re: Today's Games
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:29 pm
by Vegas Claret
didn't realise how many French fans were there
Re: Today's Games
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:30 pm
by Vegas Claret
ClaretTony wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:20 pm
I’m told the player it’s named after wasn’t bad either
before my time but I believe so
Re: Today's Games
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:34 pm
by ClaretTony
Vegas Claret wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:30 pm
before my time but I believe so
He was still playing when I started watching football but I can’t recall ever having seen him play. My dad said he was a bit special.
Re: Today's Games
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:39 pm
by tiger76
Good game this much better than that turgid affair at Wembley last night, and Hungary aren't settling for the point they're still looking to push forward when they can.
Re: Today's Games
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:41 pm
by ClaretTony
tiger76 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:39 pm
Good game this much better than that turgid affair at Wembley last night, and Hungary aren't settling for the point they're still looking to push forward when they can.
Most games have been better than the turgid affair at Wembley last night.
Re: Today's Games
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:43 pm
by Chester Perry
Vegas Claret wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:08 pm
edit: That Hungarian stadium looks brilliant
There is an awful lot of politics in that stadium - the president (some would say dictator) is a big football fan and sees it as a way to assert national status - did a bit about it on the MMT last year
Re: Today's Games
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:46 pm
by Buxtonclaret
Vegas Claret wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:30 pm
before my time but I believe so
If you haven't already, his stats are worth a look.
Outrageously good.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferenc_Puskás
Re: Today's Games
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:49 pm
by ClaretTony
Re: Today's Games
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:54 pm
by Vegas Claret
Re: Today's Games
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:55 pm
by Buxtonclaret
ClaretTony wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:49 pm
Incredible aren’t they?
Can you imagine just how much his transfer fee would be now?
Re: Today's Games
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:57 pm
by tiger76
ClaretTony wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:41 pm
Most games have been better than the turgid affair at Wembley last night.
Yes very true, but than that wouldn't be hard.
Re: Today's Games
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:58 pm
by Buxtonclaret
Good result for Hungary.
Shame they couldn't hold on and win it.
Re: Today's Games
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:59 pm
by Vegas Claret
well, I'd rather watch a team of average players give everything than good players giving nothing, fair play Hungary !
Re: Today's Games
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:59 pm
by Winstonswhite
Big result that draw.
Should we win on Tuesday, it could mean we play France at Wembley last 16
Re: Today's Games
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:59 pm
by tiger76
Decent point for both teams really, and it makes the Germany-Portugal game a biggie, it already was, but now it could be crucial especially for the Germans, lose it and they could be facing heading out in the group stages for the 2nd tournament running.
Re: Today's Games
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 4:10 pm
by Carport
How is that not a penalty for France? VAR was used too forensically in PL but Euros taking it to the opposite extreme!
Re: Today's Games
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 4:21 pm
by tiger76
Carport wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 4:10 pm
How is that not a penalty for France? VAR was used too forensically in PL but Euros taking it to the opposite extreme!
That one right at the death, yes I tend to agree Hungary got away with one there, and even VAR didn't see anything wrong which I must admit surprised me, however Hungary earned that touch of fortune due to their tenacity, and they also posed a threat going forwards, England will need to be wary of them in our WC qualifying group because on what I've seen in these 2 games they'll be difficult opponents, and with home advantage and a loud crowd they'll provide even more of a challenge.
Re: Today's Games
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 4:30 pm
by Spijed
tiger76 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 4:21 pm
That one right at the death, yes I tend to agree Hungary got away with one there, and even VAR didn't see anything wrong which I must admit surprised me, however Hungary earned that touch of fortune due to their tenacity, and they also posed a threat going forwards, England will need to be wary of them in our WC qualifying group because on what I've seen in these 2 games they'll be difficult opponents, and with home advantage and a loud crowd they'll provide even more of a challenge.
Why should teams earn good fortune because of the way they played?
Are you saying teams that work hard should be allowed to get away with more cheating?
Should rules be based on the endeavor of a team, rather than if it's a foul or not?
Re: Today's Games
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 4:43 pm
by tiger76
Spijed wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 4:30 pm
Why should teams earn good fortune because of the way they played?
Are you saying teams that work hard should be allowed to get away with more cheating?
Should rules be based on the endeavor of a team, rather than if it's a foul or not?
No! but sometimes you get these decisions, and sometimes you don't, in this instance Hungary got lucky, but they deserved that stroke of fortune for their dogged display, equally against Portugal they were unlucky with Portugal's 1st goal and the deflection, that's the small margins in this game.
I must admit that I'm surprised with the benefit of VAR a pen wasn't given, but it wasn't so France have to accept the point and move on.
Re: Today's Games
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 4:45 pm
by Vegas Claret
I'm not sure he held on to him for long enough to warrant a pen tbh
Re: Today's Games
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 4:48 pm
by Aclaret
Looking forward to this Portugal v Germany game. 2 strong teams, could be a good one.
Re: Today's Games
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 4:54 pm
by Ashingtonclaret46
Both players hanging on to each other, as is normal in these situations, but isn't always obvious at first glance because one is having a sly hold of his opponents shirt or shorts. Chris Kavanagh and his colleagues obviously thought that there was nothing in it which makes a pleasant change!
Re: Today's Games
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 4:54 pm
by tarkys_ears
Wtf are they coming out of?
Looks like a nukeproof bunker.
What ARE the Germans upto???
Re: Today's Games
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 5:08 pm
by Vegas Claret
superb from the linesman to spot that
Re: Today's Games
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 5:12 pm
by tiger76
Good tempo to this game, and there should be goals at this rate, as there usually is in Germany-Portugal games.
Germany looking much more like it in the opening minutes, maybe we shouldn't write them off quite yet.
Re: Today's Games
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 5:13 pm
by bobinho
jedi_master wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 10:24 pm
I’d drop Shaw, James, Mings, Sterling, Foden and Phillips for the next game, personally.
Pickford
Walker Maguire Stones Chilwell
Sancho Henderson Rice Mount Grealish
Kane
(If Henderson and Maguire are fit, obviously).
Reasonably solid defence with the option of the full backs bombing on…. Two holding midfielders like we have been using (GS loves it for some reason) and the tournaments most out of form striker.
So you’d start Kane? He was the worst player on the pitch, and by a country mile. I’d start the championships Lyndon dykes (if he wasn’t Scottish) before I’d start THAT Harry Kane that played last nite and in the Croatia game. He is CLEARLY either not fit, carrying an injury or absolutely NOT interested.
