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Oh, I think there was. They wouldn't shut up about it.Cubanclaret wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 10:15 pmThere's some strange stuff on this thread.
Not much mention of that fact that it was about 30 degree heat at Wembley today.
Tyrone Mings probably hates people like you, that doesn't mean he hates white people.Jakubclaret wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 10:53 pmsome people clearly think mings is racist against white people I know I do.
I’m not joining & protesting in groups such as WLM in my mind everybody should be equal, no race should be better than any others, it’s a problem when you are saying BLM when all lives should matter. 1 race is saying it should matter we should all be equal.milkcrate_mosh wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 11:01 pmTyrone Mings probably hates people like you, that doesn't mean he hates white people.
It would have been better just accepting you were wrong.Jakubclaret wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 10:53 pmWell people are still entitled to there opinions whether you agree with them or not, some people clearly think mings is racist against white people I know I do, I don’t wish a rerun of the Scotland thread, so good evening.
That got my back up initially with the woke/BLM retort I didn’t want to deflect this into another BLM thread that’s why I never mentioned this directly, anyway it’s unfair to I’d rather talk about the football specifically England & Croatia, like I said I’m not protesting WLM I think we should all be equal, Tyrone mings is with the BLM saying his race matters that’s not me, wrong guy. Goodnight for good.
No you're just defending the abuse of black footballers on the iinternet. I recall a complete lack of sympathy for Marcus Rashfords abuse as well.Jakubclaret wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 11:07 pmI’m not joining & protesting in groups such as WLM in my mind everybody should be equal, no race should be better than any others, it’s a problem when you are saying BLM when all lives should matter. 1 race is saying it should matter we should all be equal.
There's no chance you say that to his face I'm sorry but not because he's huge and would probably slap you silly but I don't think you'd have the bottle. In my opinion that is I might be might be wrong.Top Claret wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 8:50 pmHate to say it because I can't stand the woke, BLM ******, but he was excellent.
Oh forgot to mention his name Mings
I believe in a fair equal society without excluding other races, if you can’t understand that concept that’s down to your education or should I say lack of it, all lives matter regardless of colour.
A fair and equal society where it's ok to abuse black people because they have the "wilfully invited" it by having a twitter account?Jakubclaret wrote: ↑Mon Jun 14, 2021 4:22 amI believe in a fair equal society without excluding other races, if you can’t understand that concept that’s down to your education or should I say lack of it, all lives matter regardless of colour.
Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 9:01 pmMings is exceptional. Pace, power, good with his feet.
Maguire will struggle to get back into that team
It’s not an anti racism gesture ( 99.9% not) that people object to ,it’s the rather bizzare issue of telling the 10’s of millions of English football fans they’re racist when we have ( for donkeys yes now) had the most tolerant supportive non racist fans and grounds in world football . Some ignorant drunken friendless loser sending a banana emoji to Rash/Sterling etc does NOT mean English fans are racists . We’re a hugely tolerant country and a murderous American cops behaviour shouldn’t dictate how we’re told to act .willsclarets wrote: ↑Mon Jun 14, 2021 12:43 amThere seems to be a basic lack of understanding of the phrase "black lives matter". It isn't "black lives matter more". In a football context, no player derseves getting bananas thrown at them, or horrible insults thrown their way because of the colour of their skin. And I ignore the societal context to keep it simple, but if you believe no player should be subject to that abuse then why undermine it. I can see that for some people, they see groups of their own ethnicity being treated poorly, either by government or society in some way. But those causes, be them absolutely valid or otherwise, aren't or shouldn't be a reason to stand stead against another cause battling to stop the abuse of the black community. Support it, and where you see other injustices support those too. You don't have to slate one campaign to make your voice heard about another.
If Mings has another good game against Scotland it will be difficult for Southgate to drop him.claretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 14, 2021 7:49 am
I admit though I am not sure which bit is the funniest.
Mings is exceptional or Maguire won't walk straight back in the side once fit
It won't be difficult.Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:23 amIf Mings has another good game against Scotland it will be difficult for Southgate to drop him.
Fair enough,claretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:25 amIt won't be difficult.
If Mings is man of the match in the next 2 games and then Maguire is fit after the group stage, Maguire walks straight back in.
I only watched from the 55th to 60th minute and thought we were absolutely superbJakubclaret wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 6:17 pmI only watched 55 mins myself, to have an opinion in rileybobs world how long do we get? 5 mins 10 mins 15 mins or another set time, he’s still allowed his opinion he’s probably based it upon what he’s read & how he feels.
He's 28, not 18. Bit late to suddenly become a top defender.Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:39 amFair enough,
I have been seriously impressed with Mings. He has got absolutely everything. Just needs to stop being clumsy and he will be a top CB.
His pace and power surprised me.
Really. ******* really? Unbelievable. Racist against white people? I'm completely and utterly lost for words.Jakubclaret wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 10:53 pmWell people are still entitled to there opinions whether you agree with them or not, some people clearly think mings is racist against white people I know I do, I don’t wish a rerun of the Scotland thread, so good evening.
Does "clumsy" just mean limited ability?Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:39 amFair enough,
I have been seriously impressed with Mings. He has got absolutely everything. Just needs to stop being clumsy and he will be a top CB.
His pace and power surprised me.
Top defenders rarely make the mistakes he does. Look at the likes of Rio Ferdinand and John Terry. Two of England's finest, and you'll see what I mean.Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:01 amI would say given his meteoric rise over the last 3 seasons he definitely can still be a top defender. He is improving all the time.
As I’ve said before I think BLM are a racist organisation against white people, some white people are racist against black people, it is actually possible that some black people are racist against white people. It’s always talked about the white man being racist towards the black person, it’s never discussed it’s almost as if we don’t want to admit it happens the other way around through fear of offending, racism isn’t a 1 way street.BabylonClaret wrote: ↑Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:02 amReally. ******* really? Unbelievable. Racist against white people? I'm completely and utterly lost for words.
Can you explain how you make that conclusion ( other than being an apologist for racism)???
To be fair for all there ability, Mings has done something they never could.
Mings mother is white I’m pretty sure and a lot of his family will be white, you’ve shown to completely miss the point of BLM but claiming Mings is racist against his own race is even more idioticJakubclaret wrote: ↑Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:33 amAs I’ve said before I think BLM are a racist organisation against white people, some white people are racist against black people, it is actually possible that some black people are racist against white people. It’s always talked about the white man being racist towards the black person, it’s never discussed it’s almost as if we don’t want to admit it happens the other way around through fear of offending, racism isn’t a 1 way street.
The irony is I think you’ve missed the point, that post wasn’t necessarily referring to mings within himself but the black people as a whole race, some black people are racist just as much as the white man is racist, we can pretend that’s not true or we could alternatively accept that as fact. Racism comes in all shapes & sizes & all colours unfortunately.
This isn’t a topic for discussion on this forum, please stopJakubclaret wrote: ↑Mon Jun 14, 2021 10:20 amThe irony is I think you’ve missed the point, that post wasn’t necessarily referring to mings within himself but the black people as a whole race, some black people are racist just as much as the white man is racist, we can pretend that’s not true or we could alternatively accept that as fact. Racism comes in all shapes & sizes & all colours unfortunately.
No-one is saying that 10s of millions of English football fans are racist. People are questioning the motives of a minority of people who think activiely opposi g an anti-predjudice awareness campaign is a generally alright thing to do and then wonder when they are asked if they support prejudice.AlargeClaret wrote: ↑Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:09 amIt’s not an anti racism gesture ( 99.9% not) that people object to ,it’s the rather bizzare issue of telling the 10’s of millions of English football fans they’re racist when we have ( for donkeys yes now) had the most tolerant supportive non racist fans and grounds in world football . Some ignorant drunken friendless loser sending a banana emoji to Rash/Sterling etc does NOT mean English fans are racists . We’re a hugely tolerant country and a murderous American cops behaviour shouldn’t dictate how we’re told to act .
Jakubclaret wrote: ↑Mon Jun 14, 2021 10:20 am
The irony is I think you’ve missed the point, that post wasn’t necessarily referring to mings within himself.
Give it up. Seriously, give it up.Jakubclaret wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 10:53 pmsome people clearly think mings is racist against white people I know I do
Whys Mings racist though?Jakubclaret wrote: ↑Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:33 amAs I’ve said before I think BLM are a racist organisation against white people, some white people are racist against black people, it is actually possible that some black people are racist against white people. It’s always talked about the white man being racist towards the black person, it’s never discussed it’s almost as if we don’t want to admit it happens the other way around through fear of offending, racism isn’t a 1 way street.