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7,800 rail seats going in at Anfield

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Jun 15, 2021 11:39 pm


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Re: 7,800 rail seats going in at Anfield

Post by DCWat » Tue Jun 15, 2021 11:57 pm

Sounds like a very pussy footed approach (perhaps understandably).

These are not safe standing seats but seats that allow people to stand safely during key moments. Effectively, they’re proving the concept of standing safely without actually saying that’s what they’re doing.

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Re: 7,800 rail seats going in at Anfield

Post by Chester Perry » Tue Jun 15, 2021 11:59 pm

DCWat wrote:
Tue Jun 15, 2021 11:57 pm
Sounds like a very pussy footed approach (perhaps understandably).

These are not safe standing seats but seats that allow people to stand safely during key moments. Effectively, they’re proving the concept of standing safely without actually saying that’s what they’re doing.
along with Wolves and Man United

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Re: 7,800 rail seats going in at Anfield

Post by DCWat » Wed Jun 16, 2021 12:01 am

Chester Perry wrote:
Tue Jun 15, 2021 11:59 pm
along with Wolves and Man United
Have they all adopted the same approach - suggesting it’s for only standing during key moments?

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Re: 7,800 rail seats going in at Anfield

Post by Chester Perry » Wed Jun 16, 2021 12:04 am

DCWat wrote:
Wed Jun 16, 2021 12:01 am
Have they all adopted the same approach - suggesting it’s for only standing during key moments?
not as such but they are there in an effort to change the legislation - pool just using a different tack

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Re: 7,800 rail seats going in at Anfield

Post by ClaretTony » Wed Jun 16, 2021 12:25 am

It’s excellent news to see another club in the Premier League do it. They have to word it like that because standing is still not permitted.

That’s Wolves, Spurs, Man U & Liverpool for next season. I thought the rail seats at Spurs were excellent.

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Re: 7,800 rail seats going in at Anfield

Post by Spike » Wed Jun 16, 2021 8:51 am

2 seasons too late for Excitement for the home team at Anfield

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Re: 7,800 rail seats going in at Anfield

Post by box_of_frogs » Wed Jun 16, 2021 8:53 am

Spike wrote:
Wed Jun 16, 2021 8:51 am
2 seasons too late for Excitement for the home team at Anfield
Maybe, but a step in the right direction.

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Re: 7,800 rail seats going in at Anfield

Post by Zlatan » Wed Jun 16, 2021 8:57 am

I think they are wording the "trial" of rail seats to rightly be sensitive to those fans opposed to standing areas in their support groups. They know its the future, and they feel the need to provide assurances to some fans that it is reversible should it be necessary (which it wont).

A good development and an understandable approach showing that LFC are still in touch with their fan base.

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Re: 7,800 rail seats going in at Anfield

Post by chekhov » Wed Jun 16, 2021 9:33 am

Great news.
Still, I find it bizarre that after all this time standing on terraces is deemed to be the culprit. There is nothing dangerous about standing. It’s policing, stadium access, and ticketing that were the problems in the past.
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Re: 7,800 rail seats going in at Anfield

Post by Top Claret » Wed Jun 16, 2021 11:18 am

May as well keep the seats, pointless if you can't goon

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Re: 7,800 rail seats going in at Anfield

Post by elwaclaret » Wed Jun 16, 2021 1:30 pm

I’m all for safe standing, and look forward to its expansion. Anyone saying terraces were not dangerous has never been in a packed longside when we scored in the 70’s… when those surges started from the top it was terrifying for anyone under 18 or over 50…. You had no control you were just swept two or three or four rows lower than you started. Anyone saying that wasn’t dangerous is misremembering, or never experienced it.

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Re: 7,800 rail seats going in at Anfield

Post by Wokingclaret » Wed Jun 16, 2021 1:52 pm

If we ever get a new CFS, it would be great for it to be designed with rail seats

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Re: 7,800 rail seats going in at Anfield

Post by Chester Perry » Tue Jun 29, 2021 3:28 pm

Rail seats currently being installed at Old Trafford

https://twitter.com/Stirling061/status/ ... 5820017669

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Re: 7,800 rail seats going in at Anfield

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Jun 29, 2021 3:32 pm

Good to see that the work has started at OT.

Paul Fletcher was very much against any form of safe standing when he was our CEO, Lee Hoos was very pro safe standing, Dave Baldwin was more reserved. Neil Hart was asked about his views and he had to ask what safe standing was.
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Re: 7,800 rail seats going in at Anfield

Post by NewClaret » Tue Jun 29, 2021 3:58 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Tue Jun 29, 2021 3:32 pm
Good to see that the work has started at OT.

Paul Fletcher was very much against any form of safe standing when he was our CEO, Lee Hoos was very pro safe standing, Dave Baldwin was more reserved. Neil Hart was asked about his views and he had to ask what safe standing was.
You should stop sitting on the fence and just share your thoughts on Neil Hart CT :D

Any plans you’re aware of for the Turf? These would be perfect in CFS? Out of interest, do they help increase capacity or exactly the same?

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Re: 7,800 rail seats going in at Anfield

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:09 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Tue Jun 29, 2021 3:58 pm
You should stop sitting on the fence and just share your thoughts on Neil Hart CT :D

Any plans you’re aware of for the Turf? These would be perfect in CFS? Out of interest, do they help increase capacity or exactly the same?
None as far as I know. The CEO was asked last year and that was the answer he gave, and we've had nothing from the club since.

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Re: 7,800 rail seats going in at Anfield

Post by Chester Perry » Wed Jul 07, 2021 4:09 pm

This is likely to be a significant report on the safety afforded by rail seats in areas of persistent standing in football grounds

This twitter thread gives an overview of the report https://twitter.com/SafeStandingRS/stat ... 6522290177

The full report - https://sgsa.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/ ... report.pdf

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Re: 7,800 rail seats going in at Anfield

Post by ClaretTony » Wed Jul 28, 2021 3:36 pm

Not Anfield, but at Old Trafford

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Re: 7,800 rail seats going in at Anfield

Post by ŽižkovClaret » Wed Jul 28, 2021 3:44 pm

DCWat wrote:
Tue Jun 15, 2021 11:57 pm
Sounds like a very pussy footed approach (perhaps understandably).

These are not safe standing seats but seats that allow people to stand safely during key moments. Effectively, they’re proving the concept of standing safely without actually saying that’s what they’re doing.
Aye. If anywhere was going to be ultra cautious.....

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Re: 7,800 rail seats going in at Anfield

Post by ŽižkovClaret » Wed Jul 28, 2021 3:47 pm

Wokingclaret wrote:
Wed Jun 16, 2021 1:52 pm
If we ever get a new CFS, it would be great for it to be designed with rail seats
Aye would be great to have a 6-8k capacity safe standing cheap stand for the atmosphere it would create. You could then give the away fans a slice of the Bob Lord or part if JML, ideally

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Re: 7,800 rail seats going in at Anfield

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:08 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Wed Jul 28, 2021 3:36 pm
Not Anfield, but at Old Trafford

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Brilliant. Although old Trafford is one of the tightest grounds for space.

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Re: 7,800 rail seats going in at Anfield

Post by Pstotto » Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:25 pm

Apart from the Celtic debacle, I never in a single match experienced the slightest problem about finding a place to stand on the Turf Moor terracing and not one altercation or pushing into in a negative fashion in spite of plenty of human crowd mingling like celebrating a goal.

... And that's from 1975 until the new stands in the 90s.

No health and safety issue at all.

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Re: 7,800 rail seats going in at Anfield

Post by Pstotto » Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:26 pm

I never saw anything either.

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Re: 7,800 rail seats going in at Anfield

Post by ClaretTony » Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:35 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:
Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:08 pm
Brilliant. Although old Trafford is one of the tightest grounds for space.
It’s shocking in that away corner. You have no option but to stand in some parts.

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Re: 7,800 rail seats going in at Anfield

Post by Chester Perry » Thu Aug 05, 2021 12:00 am

Chelsea have put rail seats in parts of the ground

https://twitter.com/RedHen90/status/1422219829533155333

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Re: 7,800 rail seats going in at Anfield

Post by RammyClaret61 » Thu Aug 05, 2021 2:38 am

Pstotto wrote:
Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:25 pm
Apart from the Celtic debacle, I never in a single match experienced the slightest problem about finding a place to stand on the Turf Moor terracing and not one altercation or pushing into in a negative fashion in spite of plenty of human crowd mingling like celebrating a goal.

... And that's from 1975 until the new stands in the 90s.

No health and safety issue at all.
Got to agree. I stood on the Longside since about 1973. It was never dangerous, you knew what to expect, it was a part of the atmosphere.

Who remembers that night at Anfield packed into that corner of the Anfield Rd end. Now that was a crush.

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Re: 7,800 rail seats going in at Anfield

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Aug 05, 2021 7:55 am

Chester Perry wrote:
Thu Aug 05, 2021 12:00 am
Chelsea have put rail seats in parts of the ground

https://twitter.com/RedHen90/status/1422219829533155333
Excellent, wasn't aware of Chelsea installing them. How we got it so wrong when we put the new seats in the cricket field stand two years ago.

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Re: 7,800 rail seats going in at Anfield

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Thu Aug 05, 2021 12:50 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Thu Aug 05, 2021 7:55 am
Excellent, wasn't aware of Chelsea installing them. How we got it so wrong when we put the new seats in the cricket field stand two years ago.
Not really. It wasn’t permitted to stand. Still isn’t. And that stand will be the first to go. So would have been wasted money.

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Re: 7,800 rail seats going in at Anfield

Post by Chester Perry » Wed Aug 25, 2021 2:44 pm

Interesting stuff - Premier League confident that safe standing trials will be allowed later this season

https://theathletic.com/2778763/2021/08 ... ed_article

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Re: 7,800 rail seats going in at Anfield

Post by ClaretTony » Wed Aug 25, 2021 3:41 pm

Would have been in place last season but for the other issues.

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