ARTICLE: Season kicks off at home against Brighton

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ARTICLE: Season kicks off at home against Brighton

Post by ClaretTony » Wed Jun 16, 2021 9:00 am

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Re: ARTICLE: Season kicks off at home against Brighton

Post by Zlatan » Wed Jun 16, 2021 9:02 am

that run in doesn't look too bad, hopefully we wont need to worry by then

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Re: ARTICLE: Season kicks off at home against Brighton

Post by Guller Bull » Wed Jun 16, 2021 9:03 am

Some years you look at them and think "Oh God" but for some reason that looks a balanced set of fixtures this year.

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Re: ARTICLE: Season kicks off at home against Brighton

Post by evensteadiereddie » Wed Jun 16, 2021 9:03 am

Blimey, that's a tough September...

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Re: ARTICLE: Season kicks off at home against Brighton

Post by jedi_master » Wed Jun 16, 2021 9:05 am

Really good start for us, in my opinion.

I’m not arrogant or anything but we should be targeting 13 points from our opening 5 home games, even before looking at the away fixtures too.

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Re: ARTICLE: Season kicks off at home against Brighton

Post by groove » Wed Jun 16, 2021 9:05 am

Belting festive period fixtures.
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Re: ARTICLE: Season kicks off at home against Brighton

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Wed Jun 16, 2021 9:05 am

Happy that Brentford away is next year which means we should be ok going there.

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Re: ARTICLE: Season kicks off at home against Brighton

Post by ClaretTony » Wed Jun 16, 2021 9:05 am

I've not had time to study them really, I spent too much time working out how I'd got 18 home games and 20 away games. Interesting first two away trips. Decent run in and I do like to play at home in the final game.

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Re: ARTICLE: Season kicks off at home against Brighton

Post by Guller Bull » Wed Jun 16, 2021 9:05 am

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Re: ARTICLE: Season kicks off at home against Brighton

Post by Belial » Wed Jun 16, 2021 9:06 am

Barnes was playing against us in that 3-1 defeat if I remember rightly

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Re: ARTICLE: Season kicks off at home against Brighton

Post by ClaretTony » Wed Jun 16, 2021 9:09 am

Belial wrote:
Wed Jun 16, 2021 9:06 am
Barnes was playing against us in that 3-1 defeat if I remember rightly
19 years ago?

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Re: ARTICLE: Season kicks off at home against Brighton

Post by Boss Hogg » Wed Jun 16, 2021 9:14 am

Some tough fixtures at the beginning of the season, good festive fixtures and not a bad tail end.

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Re: ARTICLE: Season kicks off at home against Brighton

Post by minnieclaret » Wed Jun 16, 2021 9:15 am

Tough 5 after the opener and BHA have a decent record ont’Turf. It is what it is, we play everyone twice.

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Re: ARTICLE: Season kicks off at home against Brighton

Post by Spijed » Wed Jun 16, 2021 9:16 am

Brentford away on the 12th March so hopefully many supporters will be able to tick that off their list as grounds should be back to full capacity by then.

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Re: ARTICLE: Season kicks off at home against Brighton

Post by Belial » Wed Jun 16, 2021 9:17 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Wed Jun 16, 2021 9:09 am
19 years ago?
Ha maybe not...must be thinking of another game, but sure he was against us for them in a 3-1 or 3-0

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Re: ARTICLE: Season kicks off at home against Brighton

Post by ClaretTony » Wed Jun 16, 2021 9:21 am

Belial wrote:
Wed Jun 16, 2021 9:17 am
Ha maybe not...must be thinking of another game, but sure he was against us for them in a 3-1 or 3-0
It would have been the one when they murdered us on the Turf early 2012/13 season.

Just checked it and he did, teams were;

Burnley: Lee Grant, Kieran Trippier, David Edgar, Jason Shackell, Joseph Mills, Dean Marney (Sam Vokes 83), Marvin Bartley (Martin Paterson 45), Chris McCann, Junior Stanislas, Charlie Austin, Cameron Stewart (Ross Wallace 64). Subs not used: Brian Jensen, Michael Duff, Ben Mee, Brian Stock.

Brighton: Tomasz Kuszczak, Saltor Bruno, Adam El-Abd, Gordon Greer, Wayne Bridge, Liam Bridcutt, Gary Dicker, Andrew Crofts (Will Buckley 38), Kazenga LuaLua (Andrea Orlandi 79), Craig Mackail-Smith, Ashley Barnes. Subs not used: Casper Ankergren, Lewis Dunk, Inigo Calderon, Ryan Harley, Torbjorn Agdestein.

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Re: ARTICLE: Season kicks off at home against Brighton

Post by dandeclaret » Wed Jun 16, 2021 9:21 am

jedi_master wrote:
Wed Jun 16, 2021 9:05 am
Really good start for us, in my opinion.

I’m not arrogant or anything but we should be targeting 13 points from our opening 5 home games, even before looking at the away fixtures too.
Targeting 4 wins and a draw? At least expectations aren't too high eh?

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Re: ARTICLE: Season kicks off at home against Brighton

Post by Spijed » Wed Jun 16, 2021 9:22 am

At least we get shut of the Man City away game early on.

Plenty of time to repair the goal difference after that. ;)

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Re: ARTICLE: Season kicks off at home against Brighton

Post by NewClaret » Wed Jun 16, 2021 9:23 am

Good fixtures, I think.

Tough September and Jan/early Feb.

Last 3 games are also not the easiest if we’re in trouble so better make sure we’re not, but otherwise decent.

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Re: ARTICLE: Season kicks off at home against Brighton

Post by martin_p » Wed Jun 16, 2021 9:29 am

Gah! Was hoping for an away fixture as 14th is my sons birthday. Come on Sky, get this super attractive fixture moved!

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Re: ARTICLE: Season kicks off at home against Brighton

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Wed Jun 16, 2021 9:29 am

We even managed to make Bobby Zamora look good back in 2002

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Re: ARTICLE: Season kicks off at home against Brighton

Post by RalphCoatesComb » Wed Jun 16, 2021 9:32 am

evensteadiereddie wrote:
Wed Jun 16, 2021 9:03 am
Blimey, that's a tough September...
It won't be an easy one, that's for sure. But, it's the same for everyone :)

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Re: ARTICLE: Season kicks off at home against Brighton

Post by jedi_master » Wed Jun 16, 2021 9:39 am

dandeclaret wrote:
Wed Jun 16, 2021 9:21 am
Targeting 4 wins and a draw? At least expectations aren't too high eh?
Yeah, you're right.

Let's target 5 points.

It's not 'expectation' as you have put it, it's a target (hence, targeting - as Dyche historically always has done with specific fixtures). Look at who those games are against, they're all teams that on paper we would be hoping to take points from at home. That's not to say it's an expectation, nobody said that except for you. Prior to last season, when we were pretty poor at home all told, we have heavily relied on our ability to take home points against the likes of Brighton, Palace, Norwich and Brentford.

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Re: ARTICLE: Season kicks off at home against Brighton

Post by edison » Wed Jun 16, 2021 9:42 am

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Wed Jun 16, 2021 9:05 am
Happy that Brentford away is next year which means we should be ok going there.
That was my first reaction too. My last-remaining `ticks' are late in the season as well, when you'd hope we'll be back to full grounds

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Re: ARTICLE: Season kicks off at home against Brighton

Post by joey13 » Wed Jun 16, 2021 9:43 am

jedi_master wrote:
Wed Jun 16, 2021 9:05 am
Really good start for us, in my opinion.

I’m not arrogant or anything but we should be targeting 13 points from our opening 5 home games, even before looking at the away fixtures too.
Based on 1 win at home this year ? :roll:

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Re: ARTICLE: Season kicks off at home against Brighton

Post by wilks_bfc » Wed Jun 16, 2021 9:47 am

Not that I’m complaining, but I always thought that if you starts the season at home the last game away

Be a novelty not playing Newcastle at home midweek though

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Re: ARTICLE: Season kicks off at home against Brighton

Post by dandeclaret » Wed Jun 16, 2021 9:49 am

jedi_master wrote:
Wed Jun 16, 2021 9:39 am
Yeah, you're right.

Let's target 5 points.

It's not 'expectation' as you have put it, it's a target (hence, targeting - as Dyche historically always has done with specific fixtures). Look at who those games are against, they're all teams that on paper we would be hoping to take points from at home. That's not to say it's an expectation, nobody said that except for you. Prior to last season, when we were pretty poor at home all told, we have heavily relied on our ability to take home points against the likes of Brighton, Palace, Norwich and Brentford.
Surely they are targeting 15 points? Why target 13? What does target 13 mean, if it doesn't mean expect 13?

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Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Wed Jun 16, 2021 9:51 am

dandeclaret wrote:
Wed Jun 16, 2021 9:49 am
Surely they are targeting 15 points? Why target 13? What does target 13 mean, if it doesn't mean expect 13?

To be fair 1 of those 5 games is Leeds, surely nobody not even Man City or PSG would target a home win against the self titled biggest club in the world
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Re: ARTICLE: Season kicks off at home against Brighton

Post by jedi_master » Wed Jun 16, 2021 9:51 am

joey13 wrote:
Wed Jun 16, 2021 9:43 am
Based on 1 win at home this year ? :roll:
Based on our historical home form in the Premier League under Dyche against the teams around us. Last season was poor on this front, granted but was hopefully an anomaly.

Brighton, Palace, Norwich and Brentford - are most people looking at those home fixtures and being fearful? What on Earth do you think of the rest of the games then? If we want to maintain our status in this division, these are games we will be hoping to take maximum points in. Last season some shock results are the ones which propped us up (Emirates, Anfield, Goodison for example).

Hopefully we are less reliant on those types of games to keep us safe this coming season and can make our jobs easier by doing the business at home against teams that will undoubtedly also be in a relegation battle. Last season the draws at home against West Brom, Fulham, Brighton and loss to Newcastle kept us anxious quite a bit longer than we needed to be.

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Re: ARTICLE: Season kicks off at home against Brighton

Post by ClaretTony » Wed Jun 16, 2021 10:02 am

wilks_bfc wrote:
Wed Jun 16, 2021 9:47 am
Not that I’m complaining, but I always thought that if you starts the season at home the last game away

Be a novelty not playing Newcastle at home midweek though
In our Premier League seasons we've started and ended at home in 2016/17 and 2019/20 and we've started and ended away in 2020/21 although we should have kicked off at home.

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Re: ARTICLE: Season kicks off at home against Brighton

Post by ClaretTony » Wed Jun 16, 2021 10:03 am

Cup dates and international break dates are now all in the Friendlies & Key Dates

https://www.uptheclarets.com/friendlies-and-key-dates

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Re: ARTICLE: Season kicks off at home against Brighton

Post by tiger76 » Wed Jun 16, 2021 10:17 am

Pretty happy with those TBH, an excellent chance to put a few home wins on the board early in the season, and hopefully build up some momentum in our campaign, yes of course we have to play everybody twice, but if you can rack up a few wins in the opening weeks it doesn't half ease the pressure.

We can never take anything for granted in this league, but we should have a lot more than 2 points after 7 games this time, and therefore not chasing our tail as happened last season following our poor start.

Good festive fixtures as well, and thankfully for those who travel the Brentford game is late in the season, so those who want to tick their new stadium off their list should be able to do so all being well by that stage.

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Post by Dyched » Wed Jun 16, 2021 10:59 am

Manchester United and Leeds United away in 3 days? No point even going home. Belting few days out.

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Post by Chester Perry » Wed Jun 16, 2021 11:16 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Wed Jun 16, 2021 10:03 am
Cup dates and international break dates are now all in the Friendlies & Key Dates

https://www.uptheclarets.com/friendlies-and-key-dates
That late January international break from FIFA means that the Premier League has lost it's winter break this year and the world cup the following season is likely to make a mess for everyone - it will be difficult for those teams who don't get into their stride quickly.

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Post by ClaretTony » Wed Jun 16, 2021 11:32 am

That January window is a pain with the FA Cup on the following weekend

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Post by jjclaret » Wed Jun 16, 2021 11:35 am

Can’t see the Barstewards fixtures on there?
Oh hang on a minute!

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Post by Buxtonclaret » Wed Jun 16, 2021 11:38 am

One game at a time. :D
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Re: ARTICLE: Season kicks off at home against Brighton

Post by JohnDearyMe » Wed Jun 16, 2021 2:55 pm

We seemed to have played away at Arsenal quite a few times in January in recent years

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Re: ARTICLE: Season kicks off at home against Brighton

Post by ClaretTony » Wed Jun 16, 2021 3:19 pm

JohnDearyMe wrote:
Wed Jun 16, 2021 2:55 pm
We seemed to have played away at Arsenal quite a few times in January in recent years
Only once in 2016/17
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Post by Vegas Claret » Wed Jun 16, 2021 3:21 pm

very tough start imho

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Re: ARTICLE: Season kicks off at home against Brighton

Post by diamondpocket » Wed Jun 16, 2021 3:28 pm

Tough start like Vegas says and an equally tough festive period and January. But a good run of fixtures at the end to gather some momentum for the European push!!
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Post by bfcmik » Wed Jun 16, 2021 5:17 pm

As SD often says, "There are no easy games in the Premier League". We will gain points where it is not expected and we will drop points that people say are there for the taking. - happens every single season!

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Post by burnmark » Wed Jun 16, 2021 6:31 pm

What do people think are the chances of some Clarets being in the away end at Anfield?

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Re: ARTICLE: Season kicks off at home against Brighton

Post by ClaretTony » Wed Jun 16, 2021 7:14 pm

burnmark wrote:
Wed Jun 16, 2021 6:31 pm
What do people think are the chances of some Clarets being in the away end at Anfield?
I wouldn’t bet on it just now but it’s still over 9 weeks away

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Re: ARTICLE: Season kicks off at home against Brighton

Post by chekhov » Wed Jun 16, 2021 7:36 pm

jedi_master wrote:
Wed Jun 16, 2021 9:39 am
Yeah, you're right.

Let's target 5 points.

It's not 'expectation' as you have put it, it's a target (hence, targeting - as Dyche historically always has done with specific fixtures). Look at who those games are against, they're all teams that on paper we would be hoping to take points from at home. That's not to say it's an expectation, nobody said that except for you. Prior to last season, when we were pretty poor at home all told, we have heavily relied on our ability to take home points against the likes of Brighton, Palace, Norwich and Brentford.
With your logic surely we should be targeting 15 points?

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Re: ARTICLE: Season kicks off at home against Brighton

Post by gandhisflipflop » Wed Jun 16, 2021 7:39 pm

Apologies if it’s already been mentioned but are we going to go back to some sort of normal kick off times now instead of the ridiculousness of the staggered games last season?

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Post by bodge » Wed Jun 16, 2021 7:42 pm

Pleased we have avoided the promoted sides in the first six and good to get some of the top 6 early doors as they may not have all their Euros players ready.
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Post by leelad » Wed Jun 16, 2021 8:03 pm

We have to play each of the teams in the division twice over the season, we all know that. Just need to get off to a good start at home, especially if we are not able to travel to away games in the first month or two.

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Re: ARTICLE: Season kicks off at home against Brighton

Post by ClaretTony » Wed Jun 16, 2021 8:05 pm

bodge wrote:
Wed Jun 16, 2021 7:42 pm
Pleased we have avoided the promoted sides in the first six and good to get some of the top 6 early doors as they may not have all their Euros players ready.
Three years ago we had all three promoted teams in the first three away games.

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Re: ARTICLE: Season kicks off at home against Brighton

Post by ClaretTony » Wed Jun 16, 2021 8:05 pm

gandhisflipflop wrote:
Wed Jun 16, 2021 7:39 pm
Apologies if it’s already been mentioned but are we going to go back to some sort of normal kick off times now instead of the ridiculousness of the staggered games last season?
The staggering of the games last season was to ensure we could see our teams play.

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