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Eddie Howe next England manager

Post by Les Lawrence » Sat Jun 19, 2021 8:02 am

Plays attacking football,can spot a good young player,better defenders to pick from Give him the job👍

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Re: Eddie Howe next England manager

Post by Conroysleftfoot » Sat Jun 19, 2021 8:10 am

Les Lawrence wrote:
Sat Jun 19, 2021 8:02 am
Plays attacking football,can spot a good young player,better defenders to pick from Give him the job👍
Great shout.

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Re: Eddie Howe next England manager

Post by steve1264b » Sat Jun 19, 2021 8:12 am

Yes instead of nil - nil we would have got beat 4-3!
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Re: Eddie Howe next England manager

Post by beddie » Sat Jun 19, 2021 8:13 am

We have so many talented youngsters that individually can at times be outstanding, for some reason we can never quite get them to gel as a team. Would a change of Manager be the answer, I’m not so sure but if it was certainly Eddie would come into the reckoning. The whole set up wants a complete and reorganising if we want to be taken seriously but that’s not going to happen with domestic football being the priority and rightly so in my opinion.

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Re: Eddie Howe next England manager

Post by jdrobbo » Sat Jun 19, 2021 8:17 am

Not for me. He might not have won them the Champions League, but Frank Lampard I think would be a better shout.
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Re: Eddie Howe next England manager

Post by BenWickes » Sat Jun 19, 2021 8:20 am

I have worried about England's defence for most of my life. Having Howe as manager would have me reaching for the whiskey bottle.

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Re: Eddie Howe next England manager

Post by Les Lawrence » Sat Jun 19, 2021 8:30 am

Would at least be exciting to watch, better than that shite last night With a better quality defenders to pick from I'm sure we would be solid at the back.Why Lampard because he managed Chelsea and not Bournemouth?

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Re: Eddie Howe next England manager

Post by Steve1956 » Sat Jun 19, 2021 8:47 am

Eddie managing England ...😆..he bottled a job in a league with only two teams in it,can't see Eddie being up for taking on the World's best teams really,but probably a better bet than most English managers around,England are miles behind the World's best teams,we have the tag of " plucky quarter finalists,' that's about as good as it gets.....Eddie leading England from the international wilderness....its a no from me.

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Re: Eddie Howe next England manager

Post by ClaretMov » Sat Jun 19, 2021 9:06 am

We need to go continental, a manager with flair instead of boring manager's England produce, how many English manager's have won the premier league since it started almost 30 year's ago.......NONE Because all they want to do is pass is backwards and pass it sideways

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Re: Eddie Howe next England manager

Post by Steve1956 » Sat Jun 19, 2021 9:13 am

ClaretMov wrote:
Sat Jun 19, 2021 9:06 am
We need to go continental, a manager with flair instead of boring manager's England produce, how many English manager's have won the premier league since it started almost 30 year's ago.......NONE Because all they want to do is pass is backwards and pass it sideways
A bit like Pep does eh? :lol:

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Re: Eddie Howe next England manager

Post by Zenwisdom » Sat Jun 19, 2021 9:15 am

Not sure how Eddie could affect the prima Donna
England team more concerned with hair styles .
Thought Sam was looking ok at the time .
Expectations are to high when the premier league
Is saturated with over sea players .

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Re: Eddie Howe next England manager

Post by ClaretMov » Sat Jun 19, 2021 9:16 am

Steve1956 wrote:
Sat Jun 19, 2021 9:13 am
A bit like Pep does eh? :lol:
Nothing like Pep, Man City yes pass it sideways and back a lot to keep the ball but the big difference is when they see an opening they counter they pass forward they score, the total opposite of how England play.

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Re: Eddie Howe next England manager

Post by taio » Sat Jun 19, 2021 9:22 am

If the FA want an English manager he should be a front runner for the job - I think he would be a good fit. But I can't see Southgate leaving because he's an even better fit for the FA.

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Re: Eddie Howe next England manager

Post by Steve1956 » Sat Jun 19, 2021 9:28 am

ClaretMov wrote:
Sat Jun 19, 2021 9:16 am
Nothing like Pep, Man City yes pass it sideways and back a lot to keep the ball but the big difference is when they see an opening they counter they pass forward they score, the total opposite of how England play.
Oh right...thanks.

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Re: Eddie Howe next England manager

Post by CrosspoolClarets » Sat Jun 19, 2021 9:31 am

That’s a decent shout actually.

Plays good football, decent Premier League experience, likes young players, would tick the FA’s box for being non-controversial and media friendly. They can send Southgate upstairs.

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Re: Eddie Howe next England manager

Post by ClaretMov » Sat Jun 19, 2021 9:36 am

CrosspoolClarets wrote:
Sat Jun 19, 2021 9:31 am
That’s a decent shout actually.

Plays good football, decent Premier League experience, likes young players, would tick the FA’s box for being non-controversial and media friendly. They can send Southgate upstairs.
Is upstairs Scotland :lol:

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Re: Eddie Howe next England manager

Post by taio » Sat Jun 19, 2021 9:41 am

CrosspoolClarets wrote:
Sat Jun 19, 2021 9:31 am
That’s a decent shout actually.

Plays good football, decent Premier League experience, likes young players, would tick the FA’s box for being non-controversial and media friendly. They can send Southgate upstairs.
It is a decent shout if Southgate goes. In fact it's probably a really easy decision unless the FA wants to try a foreign manager again. Howe ticks pretty much all the FA's boxes.

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Re: Eddie Howe next England manager

Post by CrosspoolClarets » Sat Jun 19, 2021 9:42 am

ClaretMov wrote:
Sat Jun 19, 2021 9:36 am
Is upstairs Scotland :lol:
I don’t care - as long as it isn’t at Wembley :lol:

Just remembered I’m off to Scotland next month. I'll try my best to be as gracious as the Aberdeen fans were with us :D

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Re: Eddie Howe next England manager

Post by Targetman » Sat Jun 19, 2021 9:53 am

ClaretMov wrote:
Sat Jun 19, 2021 9:16 am
Nothing like Pep, Man City yes pass it sideways and back a lot to keep the ball but the big difference is when they see an opening they counter they pass forward they score, the total opposite of how England play.
Total opposite of how England played last night.

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Re: Eddie Howe next England manager

Post by tiger76 » Sat Jun 19, 2021 12:19 pm

Once we get dumped out of this tournament which will be soon, hopefully Southgate will get the push, and I'd be happy with either Howe or Lampard, given the choice I'd prefer Lamps, but either would be an improvement on dreary Gareth, I almost zoned out last night during that borefest, we probably won't win a tournament anyway, but at least we might play a more entertaining brand of football under him, and he will at least generate some excitement in the national team, which hasn't been the case since the days of Venables.

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Re: Eddie Howe next England manager

Post by taio » Sat Jun 19, 2021 12:24 pm

I quite like Lampard but he’s done nothing to warrant getting the England job.

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Re: Eddie Howe next England manager

Post by RVclaret » Sat Jun 19, 2021 12:58 pm

taio wrote:
Sat Jun 19, 2021 9:22 am
If the FA want an English manager he should be a front runner for the job - I think he would be a good fit. But I can't see Southgate leaving because he's an even better fit for the FA.
I’ve seen this mentioned a few times now (Southgate being a yes man for the FA etc) but what does it actually mean?

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Re: Eddie Howe next England manager

Post by taio » Sat Jun 19, 2021 1:02 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Sat Jun 19, 2021 12:58 pm
I’ve seen this mentioned a few times now (Southgate being a yes man for the FA etc) but what does it actually mean?
I didn’t say he was a yes man

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Re: Eddie Howe next England manager

Post by tiger76 » Sat Jun 19, 2021 1:13 pm

taio wrote:
Sat Jun 19, 2021 12:24 pm
I quite like Lampard but he’s done nothing to warrant getting the England job.
Well he's done more than Southgate ever did before he got the England gig, whatever happens in the rest of this tournament, and we definitely won't win it that's for sure, then Southgate has to be shown the door he's sucking the life out of this talented England squad.

We had 1 (ONE) shot on goal at home to Scotland last night, and let's be honest it wasn't any better in the Croatia game was it.

Yes we've kept a few clean sheets in recent games, but that won't continue when or if we face a decent side, and if Scotland had a striker worthy of the name they could easily have bagged a couple last night no bother.

Southgate is still living off a freak WC 2018 when we somehow scrambled to the last 4 despite not beating anyone of note. And his luck will run out soon.

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Re: Eddie Howe next England manager

Post by taio » Sat Jun 19, 2021 1:18 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Sat Jun 19, 2021 1:13 pm
Well he's done more than Southgate ever did before he got the England gig, whatever happens in the rest of this tournament, and we definitely won't win it that's for sure, then Southgate has to be shown the door he's sucking the life out of this talented England squad.

We had 1 (ONE) shot on goal at home to Scotland last night, and let's be honest it wasn't any better in the Croatia game was it.

Yes we've kept a few clean sheets in recent games, but that won't continue when or if we face a decent side, and if Scotland had a striker worthy of the name they could easily have bagged a couple last night no bother.

Southgate is still living off a freak WC 2018 when we somehow scrambled to the last 4 despite not beating anyone of note. And his luck will run out soon.
Two wrongs don’t make a right. Not sure how the rest would justify an imminent appointment of Lampard.

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Re: Eddie Howe next England manager

Post by Buxtonclaret » Sat Jun 19, 2021 2:34 pm

Not sure Eddie's ready for it.
But even as it stands, he's got more in his locker than the current pillock in charge.

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Re: Eddie Howe next England manager

Post by Rowls » Sat Jun 19, 2021 2:39 pm

I'm not his biggest fan but he'd be a massive upgrade on Southgate.

Eddie has shown he can be a successful manager under the right conditions and he seems to put together good teams when resources aren't a problem.

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Re: Eddie Howe next England manager

Post by jackmiggins » Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:03 pm

Definite upgrade from our current wet blanket. Last night’s performance was totally unacceptable. Blindingly obvious that it came from Southgate - I’ve never seen James play so negatively.

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Re: Eddie Howe next England manager

Post by Joe14 » Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:29 pm

England will never win anything again if threads like this are anything to go by. Get a grip!!! Seriously...... and lay of the drink!!

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Re: Eddie Howe next England manager

Post by DAVETHEVICAR » Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:58 pm

Think Southgate will be around for a few years yet

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Re: Eddie Howe next England manager

Post by RVclaret » Sat Jun 19, 2021 4:09 pm

taio wrote:
Sat Jun 19, 2021 1:02 pm
I didn’t say he was a yes man
Okay well in your case it was similar but ‘great fit for the FA’ what does this mean? Just curious.

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Re: Eddie Howe next England manager

Post by taio » Sat Jun 19, 2021 4:22 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Sat Jun 19, 2021 4:09 pm
Okay well in your case it was similar but ‘great fit for the FA’ what does this mean? Just curious.
I believe an organisation like a modern FA want a manager who is uncontroversial in how he lives his life; represents the FA with integrity and equality; has core values that align with the values of the FA; is hardworking; and is an all round good person which I believe Southgate is, irrespective of what I think of his abilities as a manager. Can you not see why people may think that the FA regard him as a great fit?

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Re: Eddie Howe next England manager

Post by tiger76 » Sat Jun 19, 2021 4:25 pm

Joe14 wrote:
Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:29 pm
England will never win anything again if threads like this are anything to go by. Get a grip!!! Seriously...... and lay of the drink!!
We'll definitely never win anything with this clown in charge, and I don't drink.

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Re: Eddie Howe next England manager

Post by northernpowerhouse » Sat Jun 19, 2021 4:26 pm

I'd rather we went all out for Brendan Rodgers. I know he's not English but close enough.

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Re: Eddie Howe next England manager

Post by Shaggy » Sat Jun 19, 2021 4:26 pm

If Eddie Howe is the answer then the question is simply wrong.

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Re: Eddie Howe next England manager

Post by tiger76 » Sat Jun 19, 2021 4:37 pm

DAVETHEVICAR wrote:
Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:58 pm
Think Southgate will be around for a few years yet
Heaven help us if that's the case, a decent pool of talent and he's wasting this group by playing in such a negative manner. :roll:

However the FA seem to love the boring GS, so you may well be correct in that prediction unfortunately.

2 games and 3 shots on target against Croatia & Scotland, seriously that just isn't good enough, and we played both those games at Wembley, so how much of an advantage do England need to start putting teams to the sword, Souness just got it spot in his analysis, England are boring and predictable in their build up, and Rice & Phillips as 2 holders against Scotland is taking the Pi** quite literally, Gareth Southgate doesn't have a clue about how to get the best out of our more creative players, and England are regressing if anything from the promise of the last WC.

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Re: Eddie Howe next England manager

Post by Hipper » Sat Jun 19, 2021 4:55 pm

I think the problem is the system he's playing. It's like most other countries except the players can't play it.

When our defenders have the ball to play out there seems to be a lack of movement from the players in front of them. They have no options. Look how other sides do it. Players move to create the required angles. Ours don't. Add to that that our defenders are less capable as ball players then most.
In addition I noticed Pickford was passing out long balls, bypassing players. It worked but most other sides don't do this. It is more of a risk to go wrong and gives opponents more time to intercept. Short balls are safer.

I've always thought you should play to your players strength. At international level that is more important as the choice of player is limited compared to club football. It's clear that we cannot play the current system properly because our players haven't the ability. Any decent side will press us to death. Our only real strength is some of our forwards.

In fact aren't we in a similar position to Burnley? Dyche for England!

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Re: Eddie Howe next England manager

Post by DAVETHEVICAR » Sat Jun 19, 2021 4:57 pm

Agree the Scotland game was poor and boring to watch .
However we don’t concede many goals and think we will qualify and maybe meet France on the last 16
Watched the France game and they just about did enough for a point
I think we then have every chance of getting through to the last 8
We will see — It is all about opinions

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Re: Eddie Howe next England manager

Post by beddie » Sat Jun 19, 2021 5:31 pm

Hipper wrote:
Sat Jun 19, 2021 4:55 pm
I think the problem is the system he's playing. It's like most other countries except the players can't play it.

When our defenders have the ball to play out there seems to be a lack of movement from the players in front of them. They have no options. Look how other sides do it. Players move to create the required angles. Ours don't. Add to that that our defenders are less capable as ball players then most.
In addition I noticed Pickford was passing out long balls, bypassing players. It worked but most other sides don't do this. It is more of a risk to go wrong and gives opponents more time to intercept. Short balls are safer.

I've always thought you should play to your players strength. At international level that is more important as the choice of player is limited compared to club football. It's clear that we cannot play the current system properly because our players haven't the ability. Any decent side will press us to death. Our only real strength is some of our forwards.

In fact aren't we in a similar position to Burnley? Dyche for England!
Hipper. I agree with that and as I read it I was thinking you could have been writing about us. The thing is with England they have the players with pace in midfield, (unlike Burnley) and perhaps need a more tactically aware Manager that can get/ teach those players to do that, Capello tried but failed. I do wonder though if we have an English Manager (perhaps Howe) that’s capable of delivering, or do we again look abroad?

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Re: Eddie Howe next England manager

Post by Shaggy » Sat Jun 19, 2021 5:40 pm

Dyche is utterly perfect for England.. I think we would be like Burnley of the championship era under him..

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