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Derby County Interchangeable fixtures

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Re: Derby County Interchangeable fixtures

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Jun 24, 2021 12:14 am

it must be unique to do this but the situation should never have gone on so long

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Re: Derby County Interchangeable fixtures

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Thu Jun 24, 2021 12:49 am

So its still possible they could get relegated??

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Re: Derby County Interchangeable fixtures

Post by Chester Perry » Thu Jun 24, 2021 12:54 am

Derby are lucky they only have to restate those 3 years (they could have been asked for the two previous to that as well), of course they still have to produce their 2018/19 and 2019/20 accounts as well

It now looks like the EFL are really gunning for them though - Mel chanced his arm and has failed overall, I don't think Rooney is going to be too happy and a sale still has to happen. Then there is the small matter of the MSD loan, that they were trying to increase in January.

Overall they look ripe for being raided for their best young talent, imagine where they would be if they didn't keep producing young players to sell

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Re: Derby County Interchangeable fixtures

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Thu Jun 24, 2021 1:09 am

I see Keiron Maguire thinks they'll fail FFP and be handed a points deduction, meaning relegation.

If they go down, I wonder if we still get to be amused by them annually bottling promotion?

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Re: Derby County Interchangeable fixtures

Post by evensteadiereddie » Thu Jun 24, 2021 7:18 am

I was talking to a Derby fan in my local last night and there is a real sense they've had it and will get hammered by the authorities.
Meanwhile, on the playing side, they are down to thirteen or fourteen full-time pros with even the most sellable assets - Marriott and Sibley - either not having played much or raising any interest. Sibley would be worth a punt.
I can't say I'm upset about Derby's problems.

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Re: Derby County Interchangeable fixtures

Post by NewClaret » Thu Jun 24, 2021 7:49 am

Shocking situation. Not sounding great for Derby.

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Re: Derby County Interchangeable fixtures

Post by BenWickes » Thu Jun 24, 2021 7:52 am

Can only echo the above. It should have been dealt with earlier. My worry is, and I'm not au fait with Wycombe's situation; if they've had to prepare for life in League One and lost some of their players from last season. Only to find that they've been reinstated.

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Re: Derby County Interchangeable fixtures

Post by Devils_Advocate » Thu Jun 24, 2021 9:09 am

Got to feel for the Derby fans who don't deserve this.

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Re: Derby County Interchangeable fixtures

Post by Jakubs Tash » Thu Jun 24, 2021 9:18 am

No fans ever really deserve this. Derby County has been badly run, living beyond their means for years and they are not above the rules.

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Re: Derby County Interchangeable fixtures

Post by dandeclaret » Thu Jun 24, 2021 10:25 am

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Thu Jun 24, 2021 12:49 am
So its still possible they could get relegated??
I'd say, given they've taken this action, it's inevitable

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Re: Derby County Interchangeable fixtures

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Jun 24, 2021 10:52 am

Makes me think of that FA Cup win at Derby in 1999/2000. Big giant killing win that day but just look at the difference between the two clubs now.
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Re: Derby County Interchangeable fixtures

Post by NewClaret » Thu Jun 24, 2021 10:52 am

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Thu Jun 24, 2021 9:09 am
Got to feel for the Derby fans who don't deserve this.
It’s the Wycombe fans I feel sorry for.

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Re: Derby County Interchangeable fixtures

Post by Devils_Advocate » Thu Jun 24, 2021 11:03 am

NewClaret wrote:
Thu Jun 24, 2021 10:52 am
It’s the Wycombe fans I feel sorry for.
Gotta feel sorry for both sets really. No football fans deserve having the club the love and support run in to the ground by bad owners.

Sitting so far above where given our financial status would normally put us makes us prime candidates for ending up in this situation over the next decade and if the unthinkable did happen I dont think we as fans would deserve it

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Re: Derby County Interchangeable fixtures

Post by gandhisflipflop » Thu Jun 24, 2021 11:05 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Thu Jun 24, 2021 10:52 am
Makes me think of that FA Cup win at Derby in 1999/2000. Big giant killing win that day but just look at the difference between the two clubs now.
I remember the sheer excitement of being drawn against them and the win felt like we had conquered Everest. I also remember the 4th round draw, and again the excitement of drawing Coventry away. It is mental how times can change.

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Re: Derby County Interchangeable fixtures

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Jun 24, 2021 11:08 am

gandhisflipflop wrote:
Thu Jun 24, 2021 11:05 am
I remember the sheer excitement of being drawn against them and the win felt like we had conquered Everest. I also remember the 4th round draw, and again the excitement of drawing Coventry away. It is mental how times can change.
Shows how things can change. We are currently playing above teams who we thought were so far out of our reach. It’s why I still pinch myself when I turn up at the likes of Old Trafford and Anfield.
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Re: Derby County Interchangeable fixtures

Post by Silkyskills1 » Thu Jun 24, 2021 11:15 am

gandhisflipflop wrote:
Thu Jun 24, 2021 11:05 am
I remember the sheer excitement of being drawn against them and the win felt like we had conquered Everest. I also remember the 4th round draw, and again the excitement of drawing Coventry away. It is mental how times can change.
And I remember us going to Coventry for the tie and getting a football lesson from them.

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Re: Derby County Interchangeable fixtures

Post by nil_desperandum » Thu Jun 24, 2021 11:15 am

For those who haven't spotted it, Derby's first game in Lge1 (should they be relegated) will be away at ........... Accrington Stanley!

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Re: Derby County Interchangeable fixtures

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Thu Jun 24, 2021 11:19 am

Silkyskills1 wrote:
Thu Jun 24, 2021 11:15 am
And I remember us going to Coventry for the tie and getting a football lesson from them.

Chippo the head teacher
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Re: Derby County Interchangeable fixtures

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Thu Jun 24, 2021 11:29 am

Derby's official twitter account announced their fixtures, with no mention of what could happen..

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Re: Derby County Interchangeable fixtures

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Jun 24, 2021 11:48 am

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Thu Jun 24, 2021 11:29 am
Derby's official twitter account announced their fixtures, with no mention of what could happen..
That’s correct - as it stands those are their fixtures

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Re: Derby County Interchangeable fixtures

Post by Chester Perry » Thu Jun 24, 2021 12:08 pm

Having read a bit more into this I am far from convinced Derby are going to have a points deduction applied to the 2020/21 season, it is probable that the restated accounts will still keep them within FFP - if they had gone back to when they actually started the practice it would be a different story. though I understand they could be pulled up over something else, the charge/hearing/appeals process would run well into next season

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Re: Derby County Interchangeable fixtures

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Thu Jun 24, 2021 12:12 pm

Could they get a Leeds or (I'm sure it's) Luton sized points deduction?

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Re: Derby County Interchangeable fixtures

Post by Tribesmen » Thu Jun 24, 2021 12:14 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Thu Jun 24, 2021 11:08 am
Shows how things can change. We are currently playing above teams who we thought were so far out of our reach. It’s why I still pinch myself when I turn up at the likes of Old Trafford and Anfield.
And beat them :D

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Re: Derby County Interchangeable fixtures

Post by ClaretLoup » Thu Jun 24, 2021 12:26 pm

nil_desperandum wrote:
Thu Jun 24, 2021 11:15 am
For those who haven't spotted it, Derby's first game in Lge1 (should they be relegated) will be away at ........... Accrington Stanley!

You have awoken the pedant in me ND, Derby would have the pleasure of hosting Accy Stan if they were relegated, not visiting them.

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Re: Derby County Interchangeable fixtures

Post by Herts Clarets » Thu Jun 24, 2021 12:46 pm

Silkyskills1 wrote:
Thu Jun 24, 2021 11:15 am
And I remember us going to Coventry for the tie and getting a football lesson from them.
I went to that game with a guy i dealt with through work who is a Cov fan and sat with the Coventry fans. They were so far ahead of us in terms of skill and pace it was frightening. Robbie Keane sold Steve Davis a dummy from 5 yards in front of him and I don't think Davis realised until Keane went past him to run onto the ball. Chippo scored a 30 yard screamer quite early in the game and that set the stage for what was to come.

How different it was the next time i went to Highfield Rd with the Cov fan, we were on equal footing in terms of the leagues we were in and delivered one of the best away performances i can remember, featuring the Paul Cook/Glen Little indirect free kick routine.

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Re: Derby County Interchangeable fixtures

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Jun 24, 2021 1:03 pm

Herts Clarets wrote:
Thu Jun 24, 2021 12:46 pm
I went to that game with a guy i dealt with through work who is a Cov fan and sat with the Coventry fans. They were so far ahead of us in terms of skill and pace it was frightening. Robbie Keane sold Steve Davis a dummy from 5 yards in front of him and I don't think Davis realised until Keane went past him to run onto the ball. Chippo scored a 30 yard screamer quite early in the game and that set the stage for what was to come.

How different it was the next time i went to Highfield Rd with the Cov fan, we were on equal footing in terms of the leagues we were in and delivered one of the best away performances i can remember, featuring the Paul Cook/Glen Little indirect free kick routine.
Not good quality but here's the free kick routine - shouldn't have happened because the moving forward of the ball 10 yards had been stopped, ref got it wrong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PQIdn2Cs-8

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Re: Derby County Interchangeable fixtures

Post by tiger76 » Thu Jun 24, 2021 1:10 pm

I know the FL are completely incompetent, but even by their abysmal standards this whole situation is a farce, and both clubs need a resolution ASAP so they can both prepare for life whichever divisions they eventually find themselves playing in.

Plus the rest of the teams in both divisions need to know where they're playing on any given day, how can their supporters make any travel plans if they have no idea where they're travelling too.

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Re: Derby County Interchangeable fixtures

Post by claptrappers_union » Thu Jun 24, 2021 1:11 pm

I remember that rule now, the ref could move the ball forwards ten yards for dissent, but should it have gone as far as into the penalty area?

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Re: Derby County Interchangeable fixtures

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Jun 24, 2021 1:14 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Thu Jun 24, 2021 1:10 pm
I know the FL are completely incompetent, but even by their abysmal standards this whole situation is a farce, and both clubs need a resolution ASAP so they can both prepare for life whichever divisions they eventually find themselves playing in.

Plus the rest of the teams in both divisions need to know where they're playing on any given day, how can their supporters make any travel plans if they have no idea where they're travelling too.
I still find it weird that the FL end up having to appeal against what are in effect their own decisions not being upheld.

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Re: Derby County Interchangeable fixtures

Post by nil_desperandum » Thu Jun 24, 2021 1:37 pm

ClaretLoup wrote:
Thu Jun 24, 2021 12:26 pm
You have awoken the pedant in me ND, Derby would have the pleasure of hosting Accy Stan if they were relegated, not visiting them.
You're correct, but I took my original info in good faith from the BBC article. Just shows that you can't rely on the BBC nowadays.

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Re: Derby County Interchangeable fixtures

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Jun 24, 2021 1:38 pm

claptrappers_union wrote:
Thu Jun 24, 2021 1:11 pm
I remember that rule now, the ref could move the ball forwards ten yards for dissent, but should it have gone as far as into the penalty area?
It shouldn't - they'd changed the rule and it should have been moved just to the edge of the box.

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Re: Derby County Interchangeable fixtures

Post by Chester Perry » Thu Jun 24, 2021 1:39 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Thu Jun 24, 2021 1:14 pm
I still find it weird that the FL end up having to appeal against what are in effect their own decisions not being upheld.
but in this case it was worthwhile in getting the necessary clarity over the practice of amortisation, though the penalty was not anyone other than Derby was hoping for

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Re: Derby County Interchangeable fixtures

Post by timshorts » Thu Jun 24, 2021 1:58 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Thu Jun 24, 2021 12:12 pm
Could they get a Leeds or (I'm sure it's) Luton sized points deduction?
More likely that they get a Sheffield Wednesday sized one.

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Re: Derby County Interchangeable fixtures

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Jun 24, 2021 2:00 pm

timshorts wrote:
Thu Jun 24, 2021 1:58 pm
More likely that they get a Sheffield Wednesday sized one.
If they were to be applied to last season a two point deduction would take them down

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Re: Derby County Interchangeable fixtures

Post by Hipper » Thu Jun 24, 2021 2:08 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Thu Jun 24, 2021 1:03 pm
Not good quality but here's the free kick routine - shouldn't have happened because the moving forward of the ball 10 yards had been stopped, ref got it wrong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PQIdn2Cs-8
That must be poor quality. It shows two bits of skill from Ian Moore. :D
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Re: Derby County Interchangeable fixtures

Post by Buxtonclaret » Thu Jun 24, 2021 8:41 pm

Damn fine header of a football was Gareth.
You can even tell on that vid. :lol:

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Re: Derby County Interchangeable fixtures

Post by ecc » Thu Jun 24, 2021 9:15 pm

"I still find it weird that the FL end up having to appeal against what are in effect their own decisions not being upheld."

It's happened before, hasn't it Tony? Can't remember which club it was.

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