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Leaked England 11 vs Germany

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:26 am

Pickford
Trippier Walker Stones Maguire Shaw
Phillips Rice
Saka Kane Sterling

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Re: Leaked England 11 vs Germany

Post by ArmchairDetective » Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:33 am

Seen something similar reported by David Ornstein from the Athletic.

Saka and Sterling deserve their places for me.

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Re: Leaked England 11 vs Germany

Post by RVclaret » Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:35 am

Doesn't surprise me that Southgate has gone negative and decided to 'match' Germany's formation. I think it's a bad move as 1. we haven't played with this formation for 7 games now while they have been using it throughout 2. it doesn't suit our midfield two of Phillips and Rice who will be up against two world class operators in Kroos and Goretza 3. it removes another one of our very talented attackers from the pitch (no Mount, Foden or Grealish).

Hope I am proven wrong but not a fan!

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Re: Leaked England 11 vs Germany

Post by alf_resco » Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:42 am

If true:
That team will have little impact in taking the game to the Germans and it'll be a matter of time before someone in the back five drops a clanger and we lose.
Still, I can't ever recall Southgate setting up an attacking line-up for either club or country.

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Re: Leaked England 11 vs Germany

Post by tiger76 » Tue Jun 29, 2021 11:29 am

ArmchairDetective wrote:
Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:33 am
Seen something similar reported by David Ornstein from the Athletic.

Saka and Sterling deserve their places for me.
Yes I agree Sterling has been one of the few England players who looks like bagging a goal, and Saka definitely has to be given a starting berth following his performance in the CR game, not convinced by the 2 holding midfielders again, but I guess GS will argue that they've made us more solid and aided our defence in keeping clean sheets, if he's going 5 at the back then fine, but the full backs will need to provide the out balls and attacking threat, otherwise we'll struggle to break down Germany.

And that midfield 2 of Phillips & Rice doesn't exactly look very creative does it, although TBF Phillips did create the goal against Croatia, so if they can perhaps interchange with one sitting and one pushing further forward it might work, but to not play one of Foden, Grealish or Mount surprises me especially in a KO game.

And if England crash out limply with that team and formation GS will rightly face huge criticism, of course on the flip side if we progress he'll be hailed a tactical genius, that's the pitfalls of international management.

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Re: Leaked England 11 vs Germany

Post by claretburns » Tue Jun 29, 2021 11:32 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:26 am
Pickford
Trippier Walker Stones Maguire Shaw
Phillips Rice
Saka Kane Sterling
Push Saka back for Shaw and bring in Sancho on the wing and drop Rice or Philips for Foden.

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Re: Leaked England 11 vs Germany

Post by FCBurnley » Tue Jun 29, 2021 11:34 am

We will still lose on pens whatever the starting XI

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Re: Leaked England 11 vs Germany

Post by Rileybobs » Tue Jun 29, 2021 11:55 am

claretburns wrote:
Tue Jun 29, 2021 11:32 am
Push Saka back for Shaw and bring in Sancho on the wing and drop Rice or Philips for Foden.
Sounds like a good idea if you want us to get absolutely pumped.

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Re: Leaked England 11 vs Germany

Post by TheFamilyCat » Tue Jun 29, 2021 12:00 pm

Hope that isn't right.

The one thing we have done will in this tournament is negate threat so why change the system that has done that?

Five at the back plus two holding midfielders is excessively defensive unless the full backs can really get forward.

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Re: Leaked England 11 vs Germany

Post by Pearcey » Tue Jun 29, 2021 12:04 pm

Looking forward to the battle between Muller and Rice.

Just hope we don’t lose to a Muller corner.
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Re: Leaked England 11 vs Germany

Post by minnieclaret » Tue Jun 29, 2021 12:30 pm

This German side are playing on memory. There for the taking and that’s the best Sarfgate can do!
At least he has a strong bench, I think he’s going to need them.

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Re: Leaked England 11 vs Germany

Post by Culmclaret » Tue Jun 29, 2021 12:41 pm

It will confuse the Germans as we are quite obviously playing for penalties

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Re: Leaked England 11 vs Germany

Post by 2 Bee Holed » Tue Jun 29, 2021 12:45 pm

Anyone seen the BBC documentary
'The impossible job" ? :D

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Re: Leaked England 11 vs Germany

Post by Silkyskills1 » Tue Jun 29, 2021 1:08 pm

minnieclaret wrote:
Tue Jun 29, 2021 12:30 pm
This German side are playing on memory. There for the taking and that’s the best Sarfgate can do!
At least he has a strong bench, I think he’s going to need them.
It's not Sarfgate, remember. It's Gareth. Might be Sarfgate tomorrow.

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Re: Leaked England 11 vs Germany

Post by DAVETHEVICAR » Tue Jun 29, 2021 1:10 pm

England win inside 90 minutes

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Re: Leaked England 11 vs Germany

Post by Zlatan » Tue Jun 29, 2021 1:12 pm

I dont think even Gareth would be that dumb... this smacks of a leak to "mislead" the opposition. Wasn't there also a leaked line up for the last game that looked nothing like how we actually lined up.

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Re: Leaked England 11 vs Germany

Post by Boss Hogg » Tue Jun 29, 2021 1:13 pm

Don’t like the look of that at all. Would like to see more creativity and Foden starting.

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Re: Leaked England 11 vs Germany

Post by Targetman » Tue Jun 29, 2021 1:16 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:26 am
Pickford
Trippier Walker Stones Maguire Shaw
Phillips Rice
Saka Kane Sterling
What time will you be posting the next "leaked" team?
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Re: Leaked England 11 vs Germany

Post by CrosspoolClarets » Tue Jun 29, 2021 1:23 pm

Reporters are lazily suggesting we will “match them up”. Couldn’t be more untrue.

We are playing seven defensive players and three offensive players (one of whom played most of last season in defence and the other spent much of it on the bench).

Whereas Rice and Philips will be “matched up” to Kroos and Gundogan. Over 100 career goals.

I have a feeling it will need lots of Imperial Stout tonight before I convince myself that it’s coming home. I simply don’t see where our goals come from.

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Re: Leaked England 11 vs Germany

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Tue Jun 29, 2021 1:25 pm

Targetman wrote:
Tue Jun 29, 2021 1:16 pm
What time will you be posting the next "leaked" team?
This team could be complete ******** but thought it was worth sharing. For the discussion

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Re: Leaked England 11 vs Germany

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Tue Jun 29, 2021 3:50 pm

The leaked team is accurate that is the starting eleven

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Re: Leaked England 11 vs Germany

Post by Murger » Tue Jun 29, 2021 3:52 pm

No DCL. Dear god.

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Re: Leaked England 11 vs Germany

Post by NottsClaret » Tue Jun 29, 2021 3:55 pm

CrosspoolClarets wrote:
Tue Jun 29, 2021 1:23 pm
Whereas Rice and Philips will be “matched up” to Kroos and Gundogan. Over 100 career goals.
I said this yesterday, it's bizarre how we convince ourselves we've got the best players and somehow they just never prove themselves. Those two will be right at the heart of their side and would walk into ours. Well, actually maybe not with Southgate in charge.

That fella has found a way to pick an England team without Foden in it, it's just a shame he's not picking the German side too.

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Re: Leaked England 11 vs Germany

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Tue Jun 29, 2021 3:55 pm

Murger wrote:
Tue Jun 29, 2021 3:52 pm
No DCL. Dear god.
Not surprised by this tbh. Been fairly average for England, wouldn’t feature even if Kane got injured

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Re: Leaked England 11 vs Germany

Post by Buxtonclaret » Tue Jun 29, 2021 3:56 pm

Filled with neither confidence or enthusiasm.
Just hope it's not too turgid an affair and we manage to do a 'Burnley' on them. 8-)

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Re: Leaked England 11 vs Germany

Post by Murger » Tue Jun 29, 2021 3:58 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Tue Jun 29, 2021 3:55 pm
Not surprised by this tbh. Been fairly average for England, wouldn’t feature even if Kane got injured
And if Kane gets injured? We've no other striker.

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Re: Leaked England 11 vs Germany

Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:03 pm

ultra defensive team as expected, let's hope they can sneak the win

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Re: Leaked England 11 vs Germany

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:05 pm

Murger wrote:
Tue Jun 29, 2021 3:58 pm
And if Kane gets injured? We've no other striker.
With that formation Rashford could slot in. I would personally prefer Rashfords pace over DCL coming in against the Germans

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Re: Leaked England 11 vs Germany

Post by Falcon » Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:08 pm

German fans are mystified that Sancho isn't getting a chance for England. They obviously know him better than we do playing in their league, but if they're scared of him, let's get him on!

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Re: Leaked England 11 vs Germany

Post by eastanglianclaret » Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:09 pm

Looks like the same 7-2-1 formation Softs***e has played in the other 3 games. I'm not expecting much.

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Re: Leaked England 11 vs Germany

Post by NottsClaret » Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:12 pm

All the talk a month or two ago was how to fit Foden, Sancho, Mount and Grealish into the team. To be fair to Gareth, he's solved that conundrum.
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Re: Leaked England 11 vs Germany

Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:15 pm

The English FA have been saying for decades we don't have enough attacking talent, now we do we have an ultra cautious manager who fears playing them

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Re: Leaked England 11 vs Germany

Post by BenWickes » Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:16 pm

Funnily enough I was pondering this last night and was talking to work colleagues. I suggested I wouldn't be surprised if he went 3-5-2/5-3-2. I just expected Chilwell at LB and Grealish.

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Re: Leaked England 11 vs Germany

Post by Spijed » Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:17 pm

Perhaps the logic is bringing on the likes of Foden & Grealish when the game gets stretched and players get tired.

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Re: Leaked England 11 vs Germany

Post by Murger » Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:28 pm

Spijed wrote:
Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:17 pm
Perhaps the logic is bringing on the likes of Foden & Grealish when the game gets stretched and players get tired.
Dunno how the players will get tired if we have 7 defensive players.

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Re: Leaked England 11 vs Germany

Post by TheOriginalLongsider » Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:28 pm

Clean sheet then we win 3-0 on penalties Trippier scores all 3. Come on !

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Re: Leaked England 11 vs Germany

Post by Cheshireclaret » Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:32 pm

Falcon wrote:
Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:08 pm
German fans are mystified that Sancho isn't getting a chance for England. They obviously know him better than we do playing in their league, but if they're scared of him, let's get him on!
Probably in the same way I’m mystified Gundogan isn’t in their starting XI, he’s had a superb season for Citeh.

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Re: Leaked England 11 vs Germany

Post by SalisburyClaret » Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:34 pm

That 7-0-3 formation will confuse them

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Re: Leaked England 11 vs Germany

Post by RVclaret » Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:38 pm

Cheshireclaret wrote:
Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:32 pm
Probably in the same way I’m mystified Gundogan isn’t in their starting XI, he’s had a superb season for Citeh.
He’s injured.

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Re: Leaked England 11 vs Germany

Post by KRBFC » Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:45 pm

It's quite clear why he's gone to a back 5, Portugal attacked Germany and got smoked from the wing backs, that isn't the way to play this German side, it's asking to get beat. Keep it tight and hurt them on the break. ******** to your ''plucky losers who gave it a go'' lets grind out a win and advance!

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Re: Leaked England 11 vs Germany

Post by Jimmymaccer » Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:45 pm

Reet, time to just get behind the lads…….,.,..

Come on England!!!!!

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Re: Leaked England 11 vs Germany

Post by Murger » Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:48 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:45 pm
It's quite clear why he's gone to a back 5, Portugal attacked Germany and got smoked from the wing backs, that isn't the way to play this German side, it's asking to get beat. Keep it tight and hurt them on the break. ******** to your ''plucky losers who gave it a go'' lets grind out a win and advance!
How do you hit them on the break with only 3 attackers? Plus, why do we have to worry about them and not them worry about what we can do?

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Re: Leaked England 11 vs Germany

Post by Stanbill05 » Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:51 pm

I’ll be happy to eat my words in a couple of hours, but difficult to be overly optimistic about that 11. I don’t think it’ll be 3-3 anyway... I get it, they’ve run the numbers and worked out the defence is key to success in tournament football, but Failure will sting with that lot stuck on the bench

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Re: Leaked England 11 vs Germany

Post by KRBFC » Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:51 pm

Murger wrote:
Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:48 pm
How do you hit them on the break with only 3 attackers? Plus, why do we have to worry about them and not them worry about what we can do?
What do you mean with only 3 attackers? most sides play 433.
because they have world class players ALL over the pitch, especially in midfield. If you don't worry about Kimmich/Kroos/Muller you're in deep deep shite. I know fans want to see us lose and ship a few but say ''at least we we had 4 attacking players on the pitch'', i'd rather we try to win by any means.

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Re: Leaked England 11 vs Germany

Post by Falcon » Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:52 pm

I'm assuming the idea is that it's gonna be 5-4-1 out of possession, then a 3-4-3 in possession with Trippier and Shaw getting forward as auxiliary wingers

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Re: Leaked England 11 vs Germany

Post by Murger » Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:52 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:51 pm
What do you mean with only 3 attackers? most sides play 433.
because they have world class players ALL over the pitch, especially in midfield. If you don't worry about Kimmich/Kroos/Muller you're in deep deep shite. I know fans want to see us lose and ship a few but say ''at least we we had 4 attacking players on the pitch'', i'd rather we try to win by any means.
What do you think I mean? We have 7 defensive players.

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Re: Leaked England 11 vs Germany

Post by Cheshireclaret » Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:54 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:38 pm
He’s injured.
Is he? He’s listed as being a substitute.

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Re: Leaked England 11 vs Germany

Post by KRBFC » Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:54 pm

Murger wrote:
Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:52 pm
What do you think I mean? We have 7 defensive players.
Go ask Antonio Conte, he's won multiple league titles with 5 at the back. Chelsea won the CL title with 5 at the back. The full backs aren't defensive players tho

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Re: Leaked England 11 vs Germany

Post by Elizabeth » Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:55 pm

What's the score going to be KRBFC?0 I'll sit back and watch your predictions tonight. You got the chance to learn a lot yesterday, I hope you were paying attention

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Re: Leaked England 11 vs Germany

Post by Spijed » Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:55 pm

I'm intrigued as to who in the England camp leaked the line-up so far in advance?

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