Benitez confirmed at Everton

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Benitez confirmed at Everton

Post by ClaretTony » Wed Jun 30, 2021 3:18 pm

Three year deal. Will be an interesting one.

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Re: Benitez confirmed at Everton

Post by fanzone » Wed Jun 30, 2021 3:28 pm

No morals at all.

Gone by Christmas

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Re: Benitez confirmed at Everton

Post by NewClaret » Wed Jun 30, 2021 3:28 pm

Big mistake imo. Will cause unrest all summer. Can see a scenario where they don't start well - same with Palace.

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Re: Benitez confirmed at Everton

Post by Vegas Claret » Wed Jun 30, 2021 3:29 pm

Everton fans complain about everything all of the time, imagine if he drops a point in his first 400 games - they'll be on him like a shot. I'll be surprised if he lasts the season

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Re: Benitez confirmed at Everton

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Wed Jun 30, 2021 3:31 pm

Probably about the best Everton could attract.

I imagine the internet outrage will calm down after a win or 2. Personally never seen this rule about only working at 1 club in a city, even when that club sacks you then you can't go work for another club in the city.

I take it there would be the same outrage if he signed Salah & Van Dijk

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Re: Benitez confirmed at Everton

Post by Silkyskills1 » Wed Jun 30, 2021 3:38 pm

Excellent manager. Not saying this is the right appointment for him but his track record is impressive. Tactically far too aware for us on a number of occasions when he was at Newcastle.

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Re: Benitez confirmed at Everton

Post by Vegas Claret » Wed Jun 30, 2021 3:38 pm

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Wed Jun 30, 2021 3:31 pm
Probably about the best Everton could attract.

I imagine the internet outrage will calm down after a win or 2. Personally never seen this rule about only working at 1 club in a city, even when that club sacks you then you can't go work for another club in the city.

I take it there would be the same outrage if he signed Salah & Van Dijk
it's most definitely not "internet outrage"

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Re: Benitez confirmed at Everton

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Wed Jun 30, 2021 3:45 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Wed Jun 30, 2021 3:38 pm
it's most definitely not "internet outrage"
ok

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Re: Benitez confirmed at Everton

Post by dougcollins » Wed Jun 30, 2021 4:11 pm

Probably seeing the new ground as high profile - it will certainly be very visible in Liverpool, unlike Anfield.

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Re: Benitez confirmed at Everton

Post by JohnMac » Wed Jun 30, 2021 9:44 pm

Football supporters really do struggle to see the difference between fan and employee :D

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Re: Benitez confirmed at Everton

Post by RalphCoatesComb » Wed Jun 30, 2021 10:03 pm

JohnMac wrote:
Wed Jun 30, 2021 9:44 pm
Football supporters really do struggle to see the difference between fan and employee :D
Probably because some of us remember when the players were supporters ;)

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Re: Benitez confirmed at Everton

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Re: Benitez confirmed at Everton

Post by Thehistoryteacher » Wed Jun 30, 2021 10:13 pm

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Re: Benitez confirmed at Everton

Post by martin_p » Wed Jun 30, 2021 10:22 pm

dougcollins wrote:
Wed Jun 30, 2021 4:11 pm
Probably seeing the new ground as high profile - it will certainly be very visible in Liverpool, unlike Anfield.
You can see Anfield from the other side of the Mersey!

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Re: Benitez confirmed at Everton

Post by JohnMac » Wed Jun 30, 2021 10:40 pm

Claret Till I Die wrote:
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Re: Benitez confirmed at Everton

Post by bobinho » Thu Jul 01, 2021 6:30 am

Claret Till I Die wrote:
Wed Jun 30, 2021 10:11 pm
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Everton on the road to nowhere…. Again.

Imagine that boys and girls…. £200m a year just to stand still and make no significant progress. :? :lol:

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Re: Benitez confirmed at Everton

Post by dougcollins » Thu Jul 01, 2021 5:30 pm

martin_p wrote:
Wed Jun 30, 2021 10:22 pm
You can see Anfield from the other side of the Mersey!
But not easily from the city centre, which is the point.

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Re: Benitez confirmed at Everton

Post by tiger76 » Thu Jul 01, 2021 7:07 pm

The 1st Merseyside derby is due on 30 November at Goodison, so it'll be interesting whether the Everton or Liverpool fans boo Rafa the loudest.

The return at Anfield isn't until April 23, so we'll have to wait and see what sort of reception he receives on his return with their local rivals.

I genuinely don't know what Everton expect they've just appointed a CL winning manager and their fans are still whining, is it any wonder they never enjoy success when this is the way they treat their gaffers before they've taken charge of a match, deluded is the word given their dire track record in the last few decades.

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Re: Benitez confirmed at Everton

Post by boatshed bill » Thu Jul 01, 2021 7:08 pm

Everton fans going beserk this morning on Talksport :D

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Re: Benitez confirmed at Everton

Post by martin_p » Thu Jul 01, 2021 7:09 pm

dougcollins wrote:
Thu Jul 01, 2021 5:30 pm
But not easily from the city centre, which is the point.
Bramley Docks isn’t visible unless you’re pretty much down there (and there isn’t anything to go there for). You’ll have fantastic views of it from New Brighton, Wallasey and Birkenhead though.

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Re: Benitez confirmed at Everton

Post by tiger76 » Thu Jul 01, 2021 7:13 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Thu Jul 01, 2021 7:08 pm
Everton fans going beserk this morning on Talksport :D
Well! for some reason I can't fathom many of their followers still consider them as a big club, reality check guys you really aren't a big fish these days, in fact the likes of Leicester or even West Ham could argue they're bigger than the Toffees.

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Re: Benitez confirmed at Everton

Post by Elizabeth » Thu Jul 01, 2021 7:15 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Thu Jul 01, 2021 7:07 pm

I genuinely don't know what Everton expect they've just appointed a CL winning manager and their fans are still whining, is it any wonder they never enjoy success when this is the way they treat their gaffers before they've taken charge of a match, deluded is the word given their dire track record in the last few decades.
Fans remember when their club are dissed by the manager of their bitter rivals .
Benitez is money driven and this is an audacious move on his part

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Re: Benitez confirmed at Everton

Post by tiger76 » Thu Jul 01, 2021 7:22 pm

Elizabeth wrote:
Thu Jul 01, 2021 7:15 pm
Fans remember when their club are dissed by the manager of their bitter rivals .
Benitez is money driven and this is an audacious move on his part
Well as a neutral I find it all highly amusing, and the fallout will be hilarious to witness. :lol:

If you're correct than it'll go belly up fairly quickly as any club which isn't all pulling in the same direction will get nowhere fast.

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Re: Benitez confirmed at Everton

Post by Elizabeth » Thu Jul 01, 2021 7:24 pm

He has to hit the ground running !

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Re: Benitez confirmed at Everton

Post by tiger76 » Thu Jul 01, 2021 7:30 pm

Elizabeth wrote:
Thu Jul 01, 2021 7:24 pm
He has to hit the ground running !
Yep! unfortunately for him they visit OT on day 1, and their next few don't look particularly easy either, so he could be under pressure right from the off.

Great for Burnley though as we go to Goodison in the opening weeks, so if the home support are on his and the teams back that's ideal for us, and gives us a much better chance of racking up yet another victory at Everton. :)

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Re: Benitez confirmed at Everton

Post by Elizabeth » Thu Jul 01, 2021 7:44 pm

Interesting to see what moves Everton make in the transfer market. They didn’t strike me as a team that had good players who couldn’t click. More a team that had deficiencies in too many areas.

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Re: Benitez confirmed at Everton

Post by dougcollins » Thu Jul 01, 2021 8:52 pm

They always seem to spend a fortune on bang average players, with the odd talent thrown in who then just become lost among the rest.

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Re: Benitez confirmed at Everton

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Mon Nov 29, 2021 6:40 pm

Media cranking up the pressure on Benitez, they're saying he will get potted if things don't change soon.
Everton fans still aren't happy either.

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Re: Benitez confirmed at Everton

Post by Somethingfishy » Mon Nov 29, 2021 6:54 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Mon Nov 29, 2021 6:40 pm
Media cranking up the pressure on Benitez, they're saying he will get potted if things don't change soon.
Everton fans still aren't happy either.
Their run of fixtures before they meet us on Boxing day is horrifying. We could conceivably catch them before then.

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Re: Benitez confirmed at Everton

Post by jrgbfc » Mon Nov 29, 2021 7:07 pm

Not sure anyone else could get more out of that squad tbh. He's been left with some absolute rubbish.

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Re: Benitez confirmed at Everton

Post by Quickenthetempo » Mon Nov 29, 2021 7:14 pm

jrgbfc wrote:
Mon Nov 29, 2021 7:07 pm
Not sure anyone else could get more out of that squad tbh. He's been left with some absolute rubbish.
They have some injuries but he has brought Rondon to the club who looks slower than Gifton Noel Williams.

He's a terrible manager.

The biggest mystery in football is why do the Geordies love him so much?

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Re: Benitez confirmed at Everton

Post by Milltown1882 » Mon Nov 29, 2021 7:29 pm

Their FFP situation has pretty much nullified their ability in the transfer market. Won’t get better any time soon regardless of who is manager.

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Re: Benitez confirmed at Everton

Post by TheFamilyCat » Mon Nov 29, 2021 7:50 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Mon Nov 29, 2021 7:14 pm
They have some injuries but he has brought Rondon to the club who looks slower than Gifton Noel Williams.

He's a terrible manager.

The biggest mystery in football is why do the Geordies love him so much?
Because he wasn't as bad as Joe Kinnear?

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Re: Benitez confirmed at Everton

Post by RVclaret » Mon Nov 29, 2021 7:53 pm

Saw a couple of videos from the away end post match yesterday. Was getting pretty toxic (to say the least) between players and fans.

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Re: Benitez confirmed at Everton

Post by jrgbfc » Mon Nov 29, 2021 7:54 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Mon Nov 29, 2021 7:14 pm
They have some injuries but he has brought Rondon to the club who looks slower than Gifton Noel Williams.

He's a terrible manager.

The biggest mystery in football is why do the Geordies love him so much?
His record and the trophies he's won would suggest he's far from a terrible manager. He's been given no money at Everton after their previous managers blew millions on rubbish like Alex Iwobi.

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Re: Benitez confirmed at Everton

Post by claretburns » Mon Nov 29, 2021 7:55 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Mon Nov 29, 2021 7:14 pm
They have some injuries but he has brought Rondon to the club who looks slower than Gifton Noel Williams.

He's a terrible manager.

The biggest mystery in football is why do the Geordies love him so much?
01/02 & 03/04 La Liga titles
03/04 UEFA Cup Winner
04/05 Champions League Winner
05/06 FA Cup Winner
06/07 Champions League Runner-Up
2010 Fifa Club World Cup Winner
12/13 UEFA Europa League Winner
13/14 Coppa Italia Winner

Yes, a terrible manager.
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Re: Benitez confirmed at Everton

Post by Quickenthetempo » Mon Nov 29, 2021 8:24 pm

claretburns wrote:
Mon Nov 29, 2021 7:55 pm
01/02 & 03/04 La Liga titles
03/04 UEFA Cup Winner
04/05 Champions League Winner
05/06 FA Cup Winner
06/07 Champions League Runner-Up
2010 Fifa Club World Cup Winner
12/13 UEFA Europa League Winner
13/14 Coppa Italia Winner

Yes, a terrible manager.
That was years ago. His football makes my eyes bleed now.

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Re: Benitez confirmed at Everton

Post by Winstonswhite » Mon Nov 29, 2021 8:45 pm

He’s been in charge of some pretty big clubs in his time since leaving Valencia- Liverpool, Inter Milan, Napoli, Chelsea and Real Madrid- and not once seriously challenged for a league title never mind won one.

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Re: Benitez confirmed at Everton

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Tue Nov 30, 2021 8:25 am

After the first 6 games this season it was like Rafa had never been at Liverpool and all was good.

Fast forward a few bad results it is like he wears a Liverpool shirt on match days, Everton has a high percentage of deluded fans who think they should be a lot better than they are.

If your squad has players like Godfrey, Holgate, Mina, Allan, Iwobi, Davies, Delph, Tosun and Rondon you aren't going to have many good seasons
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Post by Bordeauxclaret » Tue Nov 30, 2021 8:36 am

Winstonswhite wrote:
Mon Nov 29, 2021 8:45 pm
He’s been in charge of some pretty big clubs in his time since leaving Valencia- Liverpool, Inter Milan, Napoli, Chelsea and Real Madrid- and not once seriously challenged for a league title never mind won one.
I thought he’d won La Liga twice with Valencia?

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Re: Benitez confirmed at Everton

Post by MACCA » Tue Nov 30, 2021 8:36 am

Only thing separating them from being 3rd bottom on 9 points is them having a good 10 minutes v us, whist we had 10 minutes of madness, in a game where we had been good upto that 10 minutes and looked quite comfortable.

It'll only take a 3 nil to Liverpool Wednesday at Goodison at that will be it I think, and with they way both are playing, that might be Everton getting off lightly

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Re: Benitez confirmed at Everton

Post by Quickenthetempo » Tue Nov 30, 2021 8:42 am

Bordeauxclaret wrote:
Tue Nov 30, 2021 8:36 am
I thought he’d won La Liga twice with Valencia?
I think you missed 'since leaving Valencia'.

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Re: Benitez confirmed at Everton

Post by gandhisflipflop » Tue Nov 30, 2021 8:46 am

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Tue Nov 30, 2021 8:25 am
After the first 6 games this season it was like Rafa had never been at Liverpool and all was good.

Fast forward a few bad results it is like he wears a Liverpool shirt on match days, Everton has a high percentage of deluded fans who think they should be a lot better than they are.

If your squad has players like Godfrey, Holgate, Mina, Allan, Iwobi, Davies, Delph, Tosun and Rondon you aren't going to have many good seasons

They seem to be stuck in a cycle like that with any manager recently though as in the start of well then fall off a cliff.

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Re: Benitez confirmed at Everton

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Tue Nov 30, 2021 8:46 am

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Tue Nov 30, 2021 8:42 am
I think you missed 'since leaving Valencia'.
I did. Too early in the morning.

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Re: Benitez confirmed at Everton

Post by Quickenthetempo » Tue Nov 30, 2021 8:47 am

MACCA wrote:
Tue Nov 30, 2021 8:36 am
Only thing separating them from being 3rd bottom on 9 points is them having a good 10 minutes v us, whist we had 10 minutes of madness, in a game where we had been good upto that 10 minutes and looked quite comfortable.

It'll only take a 3 nil to Liverpool Wednesday at Goodison at that will be it I think, and with they way both are playing, that might be Everton getting off lightly
I saw a post on FB from an Everton fan who said he genuinely fears for Rafa's safety if he were to get the club relegated.
I tend to agree with him.

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Re: Benitez confirmed at Everton

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Tue Nov 30, 2021 8:53 am

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Tue Nov 30, 2021 8:47 am
I saw a post on FB from an Everton fan who said he genuinely fears for Rafa's safety if he were to get the club relegated.
I tend to agree with him.
Nothing will happen to Rafa if/when they lose.

Yes there will be boos and insults as usual when they lose but he will be perfectly safe.

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Re: Benitez confirmed at Everton

Post by Hibsclaret » Tue Nov 30, 2021 8:53 am

The pressure is on now. The appointment was never going to work particularly with Rafa’s style of play in recent seasons. Absolute shoe in for next prem manager to be potted. Very bad idea to bring him in with all the bad blood. The job is hard enough even when you have a clean slate to start with and better players than those mentioned in this thread.

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Re: Benitez confirmed at Everton

Post by Rileybobs » Tue Nov 30, 2021 9:01 am

With Solskjaer available you wonder whether Everton would be best to move fast on this.
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Re: Benitez confirmed at Everton

Post by Quickenthetempo » Tue Nov 30, 2021 9:14 am

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Tue Nov 30, 2021 8:53 am
Nothing will happen to Rafa if/when they lose.

Yes there will be boos and insults as usual when they lose but he will be perfectly safe.
You would hope so, but last time they nearly got relegated they set the Wimbledon coach on fire before the game.

I don't think it will get that far though. If they lose against Liverpool the crowd will turn on those higher up as well, and we know chairman make managers scapegoats.

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Re: Benitez confirmed at Everton

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Tue Nov 30, 2021 9:17 am

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Tue Nov 30, 2021 9:14 am
You would hope so, but last time they nearly got relegated they set the Wimbledon coach on fire before the game.

I don't think it will get that far though. If they lose against Liverpool the crowd will turn on those higher up as well, and we know chairman make managers scapegoats.

In those days you could get away with a lot more in a crowd.

Moshiri / Kenwright should be answering a lot more questions. Moshiri in particular is never quiet when he thinks he has done something well.

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