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Joey Barton

Post by ClaretTony » Sun Jul 25, 2021 10:24 am

I'm posting this with a request that people show caution before posting without knowing facts.

But the situation is that he will appear in court tomorrow in Wimbledon charged with assault by beating. The alleged offence took place on 2nd June when the woman suffered a head injury. It's believed to be his wife.

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Re: Joey Barton

Post by basil6345789 » Sun Jul 25, 2021 10:27 am

Must've lived in South Yorkshie sometime, where they "gi the wife a crrrack".

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Re: Joey Barton

Post by ksrclaret » Sun Jul 25, 2021 10:31 am

I hope to God this is not what it seems because something that always stood out for me in his interviews was his devotion and gratitude to his wife and children.

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Re: Joey Barton

Post by 2 Bee Holed » Sun Jul 25, 2021 10:35 am

I'll be comparing the comments on this thread to the comments made on the Ashley Barnes thread. Both made pre-court appearance.

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Re: Joey Barton

Post by Jakubclaret » Sun Jul 25, 2021 10:36 am

ksrclaret wrote:
Sun Jul 25, 2021 10:31 am
I hope to God this is not what it seems because something that always stood out for me in his interviews was his devotion and gratitude to his wife and children.
Just goes to show you never know for sure what happens behind closed doors, well at least until something like this happens.

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Re: Joey Barton

Post by Rileybobs » Sun Jul 25, 2021 10:42 am

Strange how trouble always seems to follow him around.

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Re: Joey Barton

Post by NewClaret » Sun Jul 25, 2021 10:46 am

Terrible.

Shame as I’d have loved to seen him back here in some capacity.

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Re: Joey Barton

Post by Rileybobs » Sun Jul 25, 2021 10:47 am

NewClaret wrote:
Sun Jul 25, 2021 10:46 am
Terrible.

Shame as I’d have loved to seen him back here in some capacity.
I think that would be a terrible idea.
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Re: Joey Barton

Post by jojomk1 » Sun Jul 25, 2021 10:48 am

Was the police investigation into the incident involving Barton and the opposition manager at Barnsley ever concluded

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Re: Joey Barton

Post by ClaretTony » Sun Jul 25, 2021 10:50 am

jojomk1 wrote:
Sun Jul 25, 2021 10:48 am
Was the police investigation into the incident involving Barton and the opposition manager at Barnsley ever concluded
Case was stopped because of communication problems with Stendel

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Re: Joey Barton

Post by bfcjg » Sun Jul 25, 2021 10:51 am

If it is true he is finished in football.

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Re: Joey Barton

Post by Pearcey » Sun Jul 25, 2021 10:53 am

If he’s found guilty then I’d say he’s finished in football. He was brilliant for us and a big reason we were 23 undefeated. It’s a shame he can’t seem to stay out of trouble.

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Re: Joey Barton

Post by Boss Hogg » Sun Jul 25, 2021 11:34 am

Appears to be very troubled outside of football. I hate wife beaters. Despite never wanting to sign him I’d like to remember what he did on the pitch for us. As soon as he made his debut you could tell he was going to be really good for us. Did a lot of dirty work on the pitch and took the opposition abuse well.
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Re: Joey Barton

Post by Jakubclaret » Sun Jul 25, 2021 11:41 am

Pearcey wrote:
Sun Jul 25, 2021 10:53 am
If he’s found guilty then I’d say he’s finished in football. He was brilliant for us and a big reason we were 23 undefeated. It’s a shame he can’t seem to stay out of trouble.
Somebody will hire him with all that repentance & rehabilitation business.

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Re: Joey Barton

Post by jdrobbo » Sun Jul 25, 2021 11:49 am

I hope his wife and children are ok. No further comment.

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Re: Joey Barton

Post by taio » Sun Jul 25, 2021 11:51 am

Best to wait for the details to emerge. But whatever has happened it seems bizarre to be drawing comparisons to Ashley Barnes

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Re: Joey Barton

Post by Burnleybabe » Sun Jul 25, 2021 12:10 pm

I follow his wife on Instagram, she has put out a statement to say he has never been violent or physical towards her and the rumours are untrue.

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Re: Joey Barton

Post by jojomk1 » Sun Jul 25, 2021 12:10 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sun Jul 25, 2021 10:50 am
Case was stopped because of communication problems with Stendel
Just seen that, and the case has been given a new trial date of 26th November this year

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Re: Joey Barton

Post by Jakubclaret » Sun Jul 25, 2021 12:12 pm

taio wrote:
Sun Jul 25, 2021 11:51 am
Best to wait for the details to emerge. But whatever has happened it seems bizarre to be drawing comparisons to Ashley Barnes
Yes, if it was drink driving or conning officials that’d be more acceptable.

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Re: Joey Barton

Post by taio » Sun Jul 25, 2021 12:20 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Sun Jul 25, 2021 12:12 pm
Yes, if it was drink driving or conning officials that’d be more acceptable.
Yes, that would be more comparable to comparing Barnes to whatever this incident ends up being about.

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Re: Joey Barton

Post by jdrobbo » Sun Jul 25, 2021 12:21 pm

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Re: Joey Barton

Post by Devils_Advocate » Sun Jul 25, 2021 12:24 pm

Burnleybabe wrote:
Sun Jul 25, 2021 12:10 pm
I follow his wife on Instagram, she has put out a statement to say he has never been violent or physical towards her and the rumours are untrue.
The fact the police want to continue to press charges when the alleged victim is denying it is a little worrying especially as a lot of victims of domestic violence will deny it and will defend their abuser

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Re: Joey Barton

Post by 2 Bee Holed » Sun Jul 25, 2021 12:25 pm

bf2k wrote:
Sun Jul 25, 2021 11:33 am
2 totally different incidents. .... Therefore no need to compare the two cases at all.
In your opinion.

The way I view it....until a plea is entered, I still believe it should be a bedrock of our justice system that you are "innocent until proven guilty".

Worryingly, that attitude seems to be changing. It's going to be difficult in this country to get a fair trial. Everyone seems to decide on social media if you are guilty or not. We won't need courts soon.

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Re: Joey Barton

Post by 2 Bee Holed » Sun Jul 25, 2021 12:31 pm

Wow.

I wasn't comparing the case involving Barnes to this case. We really should read what is written and not comment upon what you think you have read.
I said it will be interesting to compare our comments on these 2 cases....as they are both pre- court case. That's all.

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Re: Joey Barton

Post by elwaclaret » Sun Jul 25, 2021 12:32 pm

We are very blessed that so many Burnley fans so clearly know so much about everything that they feel they are in possession to gossip about a court case that hasn’t happened yet about a player who no one has seen in years…

The intelligence department have had a rough time lately, maybe a recruitment drive at Turf Moor would help.
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Re: Joey Barton

Post by taio » Sun Jul 25, 2021 12:34 pm

2 Bee Holed wrote:
Sun Jul 25, 2021 12:25 pm
In your opinion.

The way I view it....until a plea is entered, I still believe it should be a bedrock of our justice system that you are "innocent until proven guilty".

Worryingly, that attitude seems to be changing. It's going to be difficult in this country to get a fair trial. Everyone seems to decide on social media if you are guilty or not. We won't need courts soon.
Fair point.

It's incredible how some people find someone instantly guilty without knowing any detail whatsoever.
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Re: Joey Barton

Post by Jakubclaret » Sun Jul 25, 2021 12:41 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Sun Jul 25, 2021 12:24 pm
The fact the police want to continue to press charges when the alleged victim is denying it is a little worrying especially as a lot of victims of domestic violence will deny it and will defend their abuser
It wouldn’t be pursued by the CPS unless it passed a threshold.

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Re: Joey Barton

Post by ClaretTony » Sun Jul 25, 2021 12:49 pm

jojomk1 wrote:
Sun Jul 25, 2021 12:10 pm
Just seen that, and the case has been given a new trial date of 26th November this year
I knew there was a new date for it but I was rushing to go out to church so didn't have time to check.

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Re: Joey Barton

Post by PremierLeagueClass » Sun Jul 25, 2021 12:52 pm

Where has the “believed to be his wife” bit come from? None of the articles I’ve just come across mention his wife?

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Re: Joey Barton

Post by ClaretTony » Sun Jul 25, 2021 12:55 pm

PremierLeagueClass wrote:
Sun Jul 25, 2021 12:52 pm
Where has the “believed to be his wife” bit come from? None of the articles I’ve just come across mention his wife?
I saw it on a report headlined 'Charged with alleged attack on wife'.

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Re: Joey Barton

Post by tim_noone » Sun Jul 25, 2021 12:59 pm

elwaclaret wrote:
Sun Jul 25, 2021 12:32 pm
We are very blessed that so many Burnley fans so clearly know so much about everything that they feel they are in possession to gossip about a court case that hasn’t happened yet about a player who no one has seen in years…

The intelligence department have had a rough time lately, maybe a recruitment drive at Turf Moor would help.
Exactly this.......that's why its being Highlighted.

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Re: Joey Barton

Post by tim_noone » Sun Jul 25, 2021 1:03 pm

jdrobbo wrote:
Sun Jul 25, 2021 11:49 am
I hope his wife and children are ok. No further comment.
"And then You quote his Wife"...I Hope Joey's ok btw.

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Re: Joey Barton

Post by John Johnson 1605 » Sun Jul 25, 2021 1:29 pm

Trouble does follow Joey around. However, it demonstrates what a superb man manager Dyche is that they weren’t any major incidents involving Joey during his tenure, in fact he was utterly superb for us.

Furthermore, there is a premise of “Innocent until proven guilty.” Joey will be going into a court case at a disadvantage with the media no doubt willing to play judge, jury and executioner.
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Re: Joey Barton

Post by BurnleyFC » Sun Jul 25, 2021 1:29 pm

Going off his wife’s statement, surely it’s not her who’s he’s alleged to have assaulted.

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Re: Joey Barton

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sun Jul 25, 2021 1:33 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sun Jul 25, 2021 12:49 pm
I knew there was a new date for it but I was rushing to go out to church so didn't have time to check.
Never had you down as a man of the cloth.

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Re: Joey Barton

Post by elwaclaret » Sun Jul 25, 2021 1:36 pm

John Johnson 1605 wrote:
Sun Jul 25, 2021 1:29 pm
Trouble does follow Joey around. However, it demonstrates what a superb man manager Dyche is that they weren’t any major incidents involving Joey during his tenure, in fact he was utterly superb for us.

Furthermore, there is a premise of “Innocent until proven guilty.” Joey will be going into a court case at a disadvantage with the media no doubt willing to play judge, jury and executioner.
Surely with a user name like that you are somewhat familiar with the judicial process, and hopefully things have improved since your day.

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Re: Joey Barton

Post by Rileybobs » Sun Jul 25, 2021 1:40 pm

John Johnson 1605 wrote:
Sun Jul 25, 2021 1:29 pm
Trouble does follow Joey around. However, it demonstrates what a superb man manager Dyche is that they weren’t any major incidents involving Joey during his tenure, in fact he was utterly superb for us.

Furthermore, there is a premise of “Innocent until proven guilty.” Joey will be going into a court case at a disadvantage with the media no doubt willing to play judge, jury and executioner.
No major incidents other than him getting an 18 month ban from playing football, which is fairly major.

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Re: Joey Barton

Post by yTib » Sun Jul 25, 2021 1:40 pm

that lad needs to go on an anger management course.

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Re: Joey Barton

Post by tarkys_ears » Sun Jul 25, 2021 1:49 pm

BurnleyFC wrote:
Sun Jul 25, 2021 1:29 pm
Going off his wife’s statement, surely it’s not her who’s he’s alleged to have assaulted.

He's been charged with assaulting his wife

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Re: Joey Barton

Post by John Johnson 1605 » Sun Jul 25, 2021 1:50 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Sun Jul 25, 2021 1:40 pm
No major incidents other than him getting an 18 month ban from playing football, which is fairly major.
I was referring to violent behaviour on and off the pitch.

In addition the vast majority of bets placed by Barton were placed prior to him being an employee of the football club, stretching back to 2006.

I personally think his ban was also draconian.

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Re: Joey Barton

Post by tarkys_ears » Sun Jul 25, 2021 1:51 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Sun Jul 25, 2021 12:41 pm
It wouldn’t be pursued by the CPS unless it passed a threshold.
Yeah, could well be the "I could throw some charges at a celeb and make myself famous" threshold....

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Re: Joey Barton

Post by beddie » Sun Jul 25, 2021 1:51 pm

He’s also waiting to appear again on the incident with the ex Barnsley Manager. I think from memory at the last hearing it was adjourned on technical and translation issues, problems with the video link. The Court want the ex Barnsley Manager to appear in person at the next hearing with a new date to be set.

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Re: Joey Barton

Post by John Johnson 1605 » Sun Jul 25, 2021 1:55 pm

Absolutely Elwa, a despicable regicide. Although my son did have the last laugh.......

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Re: Joey Barton

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sun Jul 25, 2021 1:57 pm

Let’s hope nobody on here is on the jury. Even Burnley fans have him guilty until proven innocent.

Despite his misspent youth he’s always struck me as a good character that’s learnt from his mistakes but still carries his reputation around.

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Re: Joey Barton

Post by Rileybobs » Sun Jul 25, 2021 1:58 pm

John Johnson 1605 wrote:
Sun Jul 25, 2021 1:50 pm
I was referring to violent behaviour on and off the pitch.

In addition the vast majority of bets placed by Barton were placed prior to him being an employee of the football club, stretching back to 2006.

I personally think his ban was also draconian.
His behaviour on the pitch was generally good. But the idea that his behaviour was good whilst a Burnley player isn’t true. Because he was breaking FA betting rules whilst a Burnley player and as a result got an 18 month ban. I’m not going to let his on field performances for us cloud my judgement of him as a person, because he’s obviously not a very good one. Regardless of whether or not these particular charges come to anything.

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Re: Joey Barton

Post by Rileybobs » Sun Jul 25, 2021 1:59 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:
Sun Jul 25, 2021 1:57 pm
Let’s hope nobody on here is on the jury. Even Burnley fans have him guilty until proven innocent.

Despite his misspent youth he’s always struck me as a good character that’s learnt from his mistakes but still carries his reputation around.
Good character? :lol: That must be a windup.

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Re: Joey Barton

Post by ClaretTony » Sun Jul 25, 2021 2:09 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:
Sun Jul 25, 2021 1:33 pm
Never had you down as a man of the cloth.
A rare visit

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Re: Joey Barton

Post by Jakubclaret » Sun Jul 25, 2021 2:09 pm

tarkys_ears wrote:
Sun Jul 25, 2021 1:51 pm
Yeah, could well be the "I could throw some charges at a celeb and make myself famous" threshold....
I don’t know the facts I know just as much as anybody else on here. I can’t be 100% sure if he clouted her or not & her defending him doesn’t really sway, it’s a common behavioural shift for the victim to reflect & reconsider especially if the relationship could be compromised.

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Re: Joey Barton

Post by Grumps » Sun Jul 25, 2021 2:24 pm

jdrobbo wrote:
Sun Jul 25, 2021 11:49 am
I hope his wife and children are ok. No further comment.
They are fine, don't worry.
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Re: Joey Barton

Post by andyh » Sun Jul 25, 2021 2:28 pm

Also her future income is at stake. If Joey isn’t in football he isn’t earning. And that will impact her. Even if the marriage is over she will want him employable.

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