Heading in football - new guidance

This Forum is the main messageboard to discuss all things Claret and Blue and beyond
Post Reply
aggi
Posts: 8762
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 11:31 am
Been Liked: 2109 times

Heading in football - new guidance

Post by aggi » Wed Jul 28, 2021 11:16 am

From a tweet by Henry Winter https://twitter.com/henrywinter/status/ ... 7852481537

English football authorities release heading guidance for training for all levels from 2021/22, recommending "maximum of 10 higher force headers in any training week". "Higher force" means "headers following a long pass (more than 35m) or from crosses, corners and free-kicks".

martin_p
Posts: 10367
Joined: Mon Jan 25, 2016 3:40 pm
Been Liked: 3764 times
Has Liked: 696 times

Re: Heading in football - new guidance

Post by martin_p » Wed Jul 28, 2021 11:20 am

Who’s going to be counting?

I guess it gets the football authorities out of any legal action going forward.

Quickenthetempo
Posts: 17913
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 10:35 am
Been Liked: 3841 times
Has Liked: 2065 times

Re: Heading in football - new guidance

Post by Quickenthetempo » Wed Jul 28, 2021 11:31 am

martin_p wrote:
Wed Jul 28, 2021 11:20 am
Who’s going to be counting?

I guess it gets the football authorities out of any legal action going forward.
Junior level football barely has any heading in it these days. With so many coaches in grass roots they are taught everything along the floor.

But now guidance is out players can look after themselves and refuse to do it.

martin_p
Posts: 10367
Joined: Mon Jan 25, 2016 3:40 pm
Been Liked: 3764 times
Has Liked: 696 times

Re: Heading in football - new guidance

Post by martin_p » Wed Jul 28, 2021 11:33 am

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Wed Jul 28, 2021 11:31 am
Junior level football barely has any heading in it these days. With so many coaches in grass roots they are taught everything along the floor.

But now guidance is out players can look after themselves and refuse to do it.
They can, might be a quick route to the bench though!

Devils_Advocate
Posts: 12343
Joined: Sun Oct 30, 2016 2:43 pm
Been Liked: 5201 times
Has Liked: 920 times

Re: Heading in football - new guidance

Post by Devils_Advocate » Wed Jul 28, 2021 11:35 am

Does it include any guidance around tackling with you head?

Image

Peter Loo
Posts: 1343
Joined: Mon Nov 23, 2020 2:16 pm
Been Liked: 135 times
Has Liked: 97 times

Re: Heading in football - new guidance

Post by Peter Loo » Wed Jul 28, 2021 11:35 am

As usual with something like this it’s a question of balance.

Some will adhere to this guidance and some won’t.

GodIsADeeJay81
Posts: 14562
Joined: Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:55 am
Been Liked: 3435 times
Has Liked: 6339 times

Re: Heading in football - new guidance

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Wed Jul 28, 2021 12:03 pm

martin_p wrote:
Wed Jul 28, 2021 11:33 am
They can, might be a quick route to the bench though!
Quick route to a court case for the club if they actively discriminate against a player who's following new rules.

martin_p
Posts: 10367
Joined: Mon Jan 25, 2016 3:40 pm
Been Liked: 3764 times
Has Liked: 696 times

Re: Heading in football - new guidance

Post by martin_p » Wed Jul 28, 2021 12:09 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Wed Jul 28, 2021 12:03 pm
Quick route to a court case for the club if they actively discriminate against a player who's following new rules.
It’s guidance rather than rules (or at least that’s what it seems from the single tweet we have about this).

GodIsADeeJay81
Posts: 14562
Joined: Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:55 am
Been Liked: 3435 times
Has Liked: 6339 times

Re: Heading in football - new guidance

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Wed Jul 28, 2021 4:04 pm

martin_p wrote:
Wed Jul 28, 2021 12:09 pm
It’s guidance rather than rules (or at least that’s what it seems from the single tweet we have about this).
Either way it wouldn't be a good look for a club if they benched a player who was placing their future well being ahead of heading a football an excessive number of times in training.

fzr162
Posts: 55
Joined: Wed Apr 11, 2018 4:44 pm
Been Liked: 25 times

Re: Heading in football - new guidance

Post by fzr162 » Wed Jul 28, 2021 4:14 pm

At least seven of Burnley's championship winning side have suffered from Alzheimer's and related conditions so I think this guidance has not come soon enough.https://news.sky.com/story/burnley-fc-p ... e-12131984

Stanbill05
Posts: 550
Joined: Mon Feb 24, 2020 5:48 pm
Been Liked: 140 times
Has Liked: 54 times

Re: Heading in football - new guidance

Post by Stanbill05 » Wed Jul 28, 2021 4:52 pm

As a midfielder in the mold of Brian Flynn, I support banning heading completely... at least in the games I'm playing in.

I certainly wouldn't be queuing up to head a 1950s football.

fidelcastro
Posts: 7235
Joined: Sun Feb 28, 2016 8:45 pm
Been Liked: 2194 times
Has Liked: 2175 times

Re: Heading in football - new guidance

Post by fidelcastro » Thu Jul 29, 2021 5:29 pm

Who is going to police this? How are they going to do it?

Heading inspectors at every training session?

conyoviejo
Posts: 5829
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 12:38 pm
Been Liked: 2491 times
Has Liked: 1477 times
Location: On the high seas chasing Pirates

Re: Heading in football - new guidance

Post by conyoviejo » Thu Jul 29, 2021 6:14 pm

What a load of phookin bollix..

Quickenthetempo
Posts: 17913
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 10:35 am
Been Liked: 3841 times
Has Liked: 2065 times

Re: Heading in football - new guidance

Post by Quickenthetempo » Thu Jul 29, 2021 6:27 pm

It's nothing new though is it.

Gary Lineker refused to head balls in training.

Chris Wood doesn't challenge for headers unless he can score from them.

boatshed bill
Posts: 15107
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 10:47 am
Been Liked: 3137 times
Has Liked: 6682 times

Re: Heading in football - new guidance

Post by boatshed bill » Thu Jul 29, 2021 6:31 pm

Nothing new in terms of training.
We regularly trained "under head height", then on game day our centre halfs would get bombarded with high balls from all angles!

PremierLeagueClass
Posts: 1277
Joined: Sat Jan 30, 2016 12:49 pm
Been Liked: 574 times
Has Liked: 115 times

Re: Heading in football - new guidance

Post by PremierLeagueClass » Thu Jul 29, 2021 6:31 pm

fzr162 wrote:
Wed Jul 28, 2021 4:14 pm
At least seven of Burnley's championship winning side have suffered from Alzheimer's and related conditions so I think this guidance has not come soon enough.https://news.sky.com/story/burnley-fc-p ... e-12131984
Bit of a difference in the type of balls used 60 years ago and those used today…

Sutton-Claret
Posts: 1420
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 12:55 pm
Been Liked: 378 times
Has Liked: 164 times
Location: York

Re: Heading in football - new guidance

Post by Sutton-Claret » Thu Jul 29, 2021 6:37 pm

PremierLeagueClass wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 6:31 pm
Bit of a difference in the type of balls used 60 years ago and those used today…
Agreed but the modern ball is now moving a lot faster.... Force = Mass x Velocity etc etc

Burnley1989
Posts: 7345
Joined: Sun Apr 08, 2018 2:19 am
Been Liked: 2272 times
Has Liked: 2153 times

Re: Heading in football - new guidance

Post by Burnley1989 » Thu Jul 29, 2021 6:38 pm

Occasionally we play with premier league balls in our 6aside league, I hate how light they are

ChrisG
Posts: 1113
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 11:10 am
Been Liked: 326 times
Has Liked: 333 times

Re: Heading in football - new guidance

Post by ChrisG » Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:44 pm

Burnley1989 wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 6:38 pm
Occasionally we play with premier league balls in our 6aside league, I hate how light they are
As a keeper I agree. They dip and rise unexpectedly.

Post Reply