Lost Morecambe and Wise Show a 'huge discovery'

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Lost Morecambe and Wise Show a 'huge discovery'

Post by tiger76 » Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:47 pm

A piece of TV history thought lost forever has been rediscovered in an attic https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england- ... s-57989461

It does make you wonder just how many other classic telly masterpieces are lurking in attics and garages gathering dust.

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Re: Lost Morecambe and Wise Show a 'huge discovery'

Post by ClaretTony » Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:55 pm

Thanks for the reminder - I'm really looking forward to this

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Re: Lost Morecambe and Wise Show a 'huge discovery'

Post by tiger76 » Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:58 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:55 pm
Thanks for the reminder - I'm really looking forward to this
Yes it's on ITV at 9PM, but I presume for anybody that can't watch it live it'll be available on the ITV catch-up service for a while. :)

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Re: Lost Morecambe and Wise Show a 'huge discovery'

Post by TheFamilyCat » Wed Jul 28, 2021 9:02 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:58 pm
Yes it's on ITV at 9PM, but I presume for anybody that can't watch it live it'll be available on the ITV catch-up service for a while. :)
Nah, it'll be put back in the attic for fifty years.

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Post by ClaretTony » Wed Jul 28, 2021 9:06 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:58 pm
Yes it's on ITV at 9PM, but I presume for anybody that can't watch it live it'll be available on the ITV catch-up service for a while. :)
Just had time to record it. Hard to believe now that it’s over 37 years since Eric died.

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Post by martin_p » Wed Jul 28, 2021 11:46 pm

I wish they’d have showed us the episode from start to finish without having the hear the ‘celebrity fans’ comment all the way through. I’m not sure if they didn’t have confidence in the material or what but it seems like we didn’t see the full episode.

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Post by dsr » Thu Jul 29, 2021 12:45 am

martin_p wrote:
Wed Jul 28, 2021 11:46 pm
I wish they’d have showed us the episode from start to finish without having the hear the ‘celebrity fans’ comment all the way through. I’m not sure if they didn’t have confidence in the material or what but it seems like we didn’t see the full episode.
I completely agree. What's the point of finding a new episode and then not showing it? We got more of Gary Morecambe than of Eric Morecambe.

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Post by mkmel » Thu Jul 29, 2021 1:54 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Wed Jul 28, 2021 9:06 pm
Just had time to record it. Hard to believe now that it’s over 37 years since Eric died.
In May 1984 I went to the opening of a new Business venture in Luton by some fellow Businessmen. When I got there they had got Eric Morecambe to officially 'open' their business. It was common knowledge that he had health issues. I got talking to Eric and commented on how well he looked and he did look really good. He thanked me and said that he felt the best he had done for many years. And then about 2 weeks later Eric Morecambe died.

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Post by tim_noone » Thu Jul 29, 2021 3:46 am

mkmel wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 1:54 am
In May 1984 I went to the opening of a new Business venture in Luton by some fellow Businessmen. When I got there they had got Eric Morecambe to officially 'open' their business. It was common knowledge that he had health issues. I got talking to Eric and commented on how well he looked and he did look really good. He thanked me and said that he felt the best he had done for many years. And then about 2 weeks later Eric Morecambe died.
Party Pooper! :roll:

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Post by Woodleyclaret » Thu Jul 29, 2021 6:49 am

Put it back where it came from before it gets shown
M and W were awful
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Post by beddie » Thu Jul 29, 2021 8:08 am

Just spotted this post and hoping I can bet it on catch up.

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Post by longsidetrumpet » Thu Jul 29, 2021 8:50 am

Done Celebrity Gogglebox style. Turned it off immediately
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Post by Hipper » Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:03 am

martin_p wrote:
Wed Jul 28, 2021 11:46 pm
I wish they’d have showed us the episode from start to finish without having the hear the ‘celebrity fans’ comment all the way through. I’m not sure if they didn’t have confidence in the material or what but it seems like we didn’t see the full episode.
Completely agree. Very irritating. I'm not sure why they do this as it seems a well used concept - talking about something without actually showing all of it. I get the sense we viewers are just being treated as suckers in some way.

Fortunately I recorded it and after the first few minutes and a few fast forwards in the hope that these 'fans' would go away, it became clear they wouldn't so deleted it. Why could they not show the whole episode, with perhaps an introduction to explain where it fits in in the M&W history, then show the whole episode uncut, then if they insist on 'fans' commenting, do that afterwards. Overall it was probably not worth the effort and ITV knew it as M&W's material with a few exceptions has dated badly.

The same was done with the 1966 World Cup Final recently. I turned the sound off for that but they still had to reduce the screen to get the talking heads in.

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Post by Chobulous » Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:39 am

It was painful to watch Eddie Izzard forcing himself to laugh at what he thought were the correct moments. It was definitely humour of its time but there were still some laugh out loud moments for me.

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Post by Vintage Claret » Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:01 am

Loved Motecambe and Wise and will watch this on catchup.

Was driving up to the Lake District in May 1984 on honeymoon when the news came on the radio that Eric had died.

I don't usually get upset at the death of a celebrity I've never met but it felt like I'd just heard my favorite Uncle had died :-(

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Post by tim_noone » Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:02 am

TheFamilyCat wrote:
Wed Jul 28, 2021 9:02 pm
Nah, it'll be put back in the attic for fifty years.
call me an old cynic .... but what a Find!! Along with the Ming Vase..Long lost Family silver and the Constable art Work............ Its Amazing what you find in people's Attics.

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Post by ClaretTony » Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:19 am

longsidetrumpet wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 8:50 am
Done Celebrity Gogglebox style. Turned it off immediately
Spoiled it - I could understand his family being on, although not constantly, but the rest should not have been on.

But why do I just cry laughing when the paper bag comes out?

I met him once in WH Smith's in Harpenden when I was doing some work down there but I also sat just behind the directors box at Luton in 1974/75 when we won 3-2. He came in and took his seat. That was fine but he then turned round, shifted his glasses to one side and I was helpless.

Maybe they were of their day but for me Morecambe & Wise will always be nothing other than brilliant.
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Post by Vintage Claret » Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:31 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:19 am

Maybe they were of their day but for me Morecambe & Wise will always be nothing other than brilliant.
Sums up what I think CT.

I could recite every word of the 'Andre Previn sketch' but I still laugh like a drain when Eric grabs 'Mr Previews' lapels and delivers the classic line "I'm playing all the right notes but not necessarily in the right order" :D

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Post by ClaretTony » Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:34 am

Vintage Claret wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:31 am
Sums up what I think CT.

I could recite every word of the 'Andre Previn sketch' but I still laugh like a drain when Eric grabs 'Mr Previews' lapels and delivers the classic line "I'm playing all the right notes but not necessarily in the right order" :D
I'm laughing just reading it - and I think Mr Preview enjoyed it. He was always happy to talk about it.

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Post by Clarets4me » Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:51 am

Vintage Claret wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:01 am
Loved Morecambe and Wise and will watch this on catchup.
Was driving up to the Lake District in May 1984 on honeymoon when the news came on the radio that Eric had died.
I don't usually get upset at the death of a celebrity I've never met but it felt like I'd just heard my favorite Uncle had died :-(
I was at University in Reading, picked up a paper and read the news ...

I turned over the page and there was a cartoon of a theatre stage, lit up by lights .... there was a coffin on a stand, draped in the Union Jack with a pair of glasses on top. Underneath it simply said " Goodbye Sunshine ! " :cry: :cry:
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Post by GordonvaleClaret » Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:59 am

tiger76 wrote:
Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:47 pm

It does make you wonder just how many other classic telly masterpieces are lurking in attics and garages gathering dust.
Accidental Death Of An Anarchist as per Gavin Richards, Channel 4 1983.

I thought this brilliant, so did my wife. Probably the only thing we've ever agreed upon.

Would love to get hold of a version .

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Post by Wile E Coyote » Thu Jul 29, 2021 2:40 pm

eric had lots of local connections too, he lived in clayton le moors whilst he worked at the pit in Altham. he had relatives from Accy as well.

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Post by Vintage Claret » Thu Jul 29, 2021 2:45 pm

Clarets4me wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:51 am
I was at University in Reading, picked up a paper and read the news ...

I turned over the page and there was a cartoon of a theatre stage, lit up by lights .... there was a coffin on a stand, draped in the Union Jack with a pair of glasses on top. Underneath it simply said " Goodbye Sunshine ! " :cry: :cry:
There was a cartoon with a similar theme in the paper I read..

It showed a gravestone that read 'Eric Morecambe 1926-1984' with a huge pair of spectacles draped skew- wiff over it with the headline "Now who'll bring us the sunshine?"

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Post by Chobulous » Thu Jul 29, 2021 4:36 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:19 am


But why do I just cry laughing when the paper bag comes out?
Last night they seemed to be implying that show was the first time Eric did the paper bag gag, but I remember trying to copy it as a kid, and I’m 67. I got the hang of it and went around doing it constantly at about 8 years old. There was another sketch around that time where they were providing backing to someone singing “Are You Lonesome Tonight”, the backing being “Bum, Ooh, Yattatatah” or am I imagining that?

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Post by DCWat » Thu Jul 29, 2021 5:55 pm

dsr wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 12:45 am
I completely agree. What's the point of finding a new episode and then not showing it? We got more of Gary Morecambe than of Eric Morecambe.
They’ll be saving it for a Christmas Day “special”.

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Post by Juan Tanamera » Thu Jul 29, 2021 6:06 pm

Chobulous wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 4:36 pm
Last night they seemed to be implying that show was the first time Eric did the paper bag gag, but I remember trying to copy it as a kid, and I’m 67. I got the hang of it and went around doing it constantly at about 8 years old. There was another sketch around that time where they were providing backing to someone singing “Are You Lonesome Tonight”, the backing being “Bum, Ooh, Yattatatah” or am I imagining that?
I can't remember the name of the song Chobulous, but it wasn't 'Are You Lonesome Tonight"
The words were something like "Will you miss me tonight when I'm gone....(bum, ooh, yattatatah)"

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Post by Bosscat » Thu Jul 29, 2021 6:41 pm

Juan Tanamera wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 6:06 pm
I can't remember the name of the song Chobulous, but it wasn't 'Are You Lonesome Tonight"
The words were something like "Will you miss me tonight when I'm gone....(bum, ooh, yattatatah)"
It was are you lonsome tonight heres the sketch


https://youtu.be/xPZl4bhOTAA

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Post by ClaretCliff » Thu Jul 29, 2021 6:45 pm

Morecambe & Wise were once asked what they would be if they weren’t comedians. “Mike and Bernie Winters” replied Eric. Brilliant :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post by Chobulous » Thu Jul 29, 2021 6:50 pm

Juan Tanamera wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 6:06 pm
I can't remember the name of the song Chobulous, but it wasn't 'Are You Lonesome Tonight"
The words were something like "Will you miss me tonight when I'm gone....(bum, ooh, yattatatah)"
Just googled it. It was Eric singing “Are you lonesome tonight” with Ernie and 2 other blokes providing the “Bum ooh yattatah”
It was a show aired in 1962

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Post by Juan Tanamera » Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:20 pm

Chobulous wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 6:50 pm
Just googled it. It was Eric singing “Are you lonesome tonight” with Ernie and 2 other blokes providing the “Bum ooh yattatah”
It was a show aired in 1962
I knew I'd heard it somewhere....
https://youtu.be/3bdKLSF8QO0

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Post by boatshed bill » Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:33 pm

Just watched it.
Could have done without some of the opinions, Ross, Izzard et al, but I was in fits of laughter at Eric and Ernie..

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Post by elwaclaret » Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:49 pm

Pretty sure there are going to be a mini series of them. The talking head nonsense was for the most part fill, ITV are getting more bang for their buck.. as they say stateside. Why make one advertising goldmine when you can spin it out to three or four.
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