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Home programmes this season?

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:24 am
by Sean Dyche's Watch
Had anyone heard anything about if the club are producing programmes for home games this season?

Re: Home programmes this season?

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:56 am
by claptrappers_union
I’d presume they will be

Re: Home programmes this season?

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:29 am
by ClaretTony
Sean Dyche's Watch wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:24 am
Had anyone heard anything about if the club are producing programmes for home games this season?
A friend of mine went into the club shop to ask and was told in a very unpleasant way that we always print a programme. She pointed out that there were only programmes for two games last season and then got a 'There were no fans here' response.

16 Premier League clubs produced programmes throughout the season. The four who didn't were Burnley, Leicester and Man City along with Southampton who actually produced them until February and then stopped.

https://www.uptheclarets.com/programmes ... son-202021

Re: Home programmes this season?

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:11 pm
by cricketfieldclarets
I seriously can’t understand why anyone would think we would have printed programs last year.

Re: Home programmes this season?

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:15 pm
by fidelcastro
cricketfieldclarets wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:11 pm
I seriously can’t understand why anyone would think we would have printed programs last year.
Or why people still buy them.

Re: Home programmes this season?

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:22 pm
by Bosscat
cricketfieldclarets wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:11 pm
I seriously can’t understand why anyone would think we would have printed programs last year.
I have all 19 "virtual home programmes" on my phone ... With having Clarets Plus they were available to download for free 🙂

Re: Home programmes this season?

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:24 pm
by Sean Dyche's Watch
cricketfieldclarets wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:11 pm
I seriously can’t understand why anyone would think we would have printed programs last year.
As a collector, it was more 'hope', rather than 'expectation'.

Re: Home programmes this season?

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:25 pm
by Sean Dyche's Watch
fidelcastro wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:15 pm
Or why people still buy them.
Collectors do. I have 61 full seasons so far.

Re: Home programmes this season?

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:28 pm
by fidelcastro
Sean Dyche's Watch wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:25 pm
Collectors do. I have 61 full seasons so far.
Lucky you. Most of mine are from the eighties and nineties which I can't give away! :cry:

Re: Home programmes this season?

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:33 pm
by Sean Dyche's Watch
fidelcastro wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:28 pm
Lucky you. Most of mine are from the eighties and nineties which I can't give away! :cry:
99% if them aren't worth anything. Started off collecting about 25 years ago, and got addicted!

Re: Home programmes this season?

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:35 pm
by fidelcastro
Sean Dyche's Watch wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:33 pm
99% if them aren't worth anything. Started off collecting about 25 years ago, and got addicted!
You can't take 'em with you! :D

Re: Home programmes this season?

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:37 pm
by Sean Dyche's Watch
fidelcastro wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:35 pm
You can't take 'em with you! :D
True, but I can enjoy collecting them whilst I'm here! :D

Re: Home programmes this season?

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:37 pm
by ClaretTony
cricketfieldclarets wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:11 pm
I seriously can’t understand why anyone would think we would have printed programs last year.
Only three of the twenty clubs didn’t during the season and sixteen produced full sets.

Re: Home programmes this season?

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:24 pm
by claptrappers_union
The club are really proud of the programme. It’s much better than some produced by the other clubs.

Re: Home programmes this season?

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:30 am
by superdimitri
I don't really have an interest but respect those that do. I think it's pretty poor the club didn't bother last season given it was tough for fans not attending games.

Re: Home programmes this season?

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:25 am
by RammyClaret61
fidelcastro wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:28 pm
Lucky you. Most of mine are from the eighties and nineties which I can't give away! :cry:
I’d love your 80’s ones

Re: Home programmes this season?

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:13 am
by arise_sir_charge
I have lots of 80’s and 90’s ones and some before that would be free to a good home.

Am I right in thinking you live in Oz though RammyClaret?

Home programmes this season?

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 11:49 am
by Claretpete
I would be interested in taking them a-s--c.

Re: Home programmes this season?

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 11:51 am
by ClaretTony
superdimitri wrote:
Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:30 am
I don't really have an interest but respect those that do. I think it's pretty poor the club didn't bother last season given it was tough for fans not attending games.
Made worse by the fact that they told us they would be doing them, produced one for the first match and then it took people trying to order them for the second match to get them to acknowledge they weren't doing them.

Re: Home programmes this season?

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:56 pm
by wilks_bfc
Seen a few posts on Twitter that our neighbours down the road are not producing matchday programmes anymore.

I would be disappointed, but not surprised, if more clubs followed

Re: Home programmes this season?

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:32 pm
by minnieclaret
I’ve had great difficulty getting programmes when abroad. Possibly not looking in the right places or are they just a British thing.
A couple of them had a match newspaper but they are not the same.

Re: Home programmes this season?

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:34 pm
by groove
Looks like the good old football programme is going to be another victim of the digital age. It's a shame really, as a youngster I was obsessed with them. Looking at the teams on the back page as we made our way to our seats in the CFS. I always looked at the opposing team first for any stand out names. Leafing through whilst waiting for kick off, pics of our last game, the managers notes, and the smell of them.

Re: Home programmes this season?

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:36 pm
by claptrappers_union
Funny, now that Daz is leaving, I can't imagine them bothering with a programme now. He took a lot of pride in them

Re: Home programmes this season?

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:41 pm
by ŽižkovClaret
If they justify themselves financially, considering the effort required to produce, they will remain. If they don't they should join rattles in the past.

Re: Home programmes this season?

Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 9:38 am
by ClaretTony
wilks_bfc wrote:
Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:56 pm
Seen a few posts on Twitter that our neighbours down the road are not producing matchday programmes anymore.

I would be disappointed, but not surprised, if more clubs followed
Clubs had to produce programmes until two years ago in the Football League when they made it optional.

No such leeway in the Premier League although that changed with no crowds.

Programmes had moved on to become club magazines almost but it’s sad that clubs are not printing programmes any more. For so many it’s a catalogue of games they’ve been to.

Re: Home programmes this season?

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 12:55 pm
by cricketfieldclarets
ClaretTony wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:37 pm
Only three of the twenty clubs didn’t during the season and sixteen produced full sets.
How many did the twenty clubs sell?

Re: Home programmes this season?

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 12:56 pm
by cricketfieldclarets
ClaretTony wrote:
Fri Jul 30, 2021 11:51 am
Made worse by the fact that they told us they would be doing them, produced one for the first match and then it took people trying to order them for the second match to get them to acknowledge they weren't doing them.
They probably realised after edition one it was going to lose a lot of money.

Re: Home programmes this season?

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 12:56 pm
by cricketfieldclarets
minnieclaret wrote:
Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:32 pm
I’ve had great difficulty getting programmes when abroad. Possibly not looking in the right places or are they just a British thing.
A couple of them had a match newspaper but they are not the same.
I asked my mate in Italy to get me a program from the Ukraine game in Rome.

‘Program? We are ******* Italian. There is no program!’

Re: Home programmes this season?

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 12:58 pm
by cricketfieldclarets
ClaretTony wrote:
Wed Aug 04, 2021 9:38 am
For so many it’s a catalogue of games they’ve been to.
But nobody went to these ones. Hence them not printing. Would have been financially stupid to print them.

Re: Home programmes this season?

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 1:15 pm
by ClaretTony
cricketfieldclarets wrote:
Thu Aug 05, 2021 12:58 pm
But nobody went to these ones. Hence them not printing. Would have been financially stupid to print them.
Do you have the figures. I can assure you it would not have been financially stupid.

Re: Home programmes this season?

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 1:27 pm
by cav
ClaretTony wrote:
Thu Aug 05, 2021 1:15 pm
Do you have the figures. I can assure you it would not have been financially stupid.
How can you assure him it wouldn’t have been financially stupid if people mainly get them to catalogue what games they’ve been to when the attendances were zero?

Re: Home programmes this season?

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 1:51 pm
by cricketfieldclarets
ClaretTony wrote:
Thu Aug 05, 2021 1:15 pm
Do you have the figures. I can assure you it would not have been financially stupid.
Yes I do have the figures. Zero people attended the games.

The figures I don’t have which I’m sure you do.

How many programs are sold when we have a full crowd?

How many do you think we would have sold with no crowd?

How much does it cost to produce a program?

Re: Home programmes this season?

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 1:52 pm
by cricketfieldclarets
I assume we also didn’t stock pies on match day. Although wouldn’t be surprised if we sell the batch left over from the Spurs game last March 😂

Re: Home programmes this season?

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 1:52 pm
by cricketfieldclarets
djemba-djemba wrote:
Thu Aug 05, 2021 1:27 pm
How can you assure him it wouldn’t have been financially stupid if people mainly get them to catalogue what games they’ve been to when the attendances were zero?
Simple. He can’t.

Re: Home programmes this season?

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 1:53 pm
by DCWat
Whether or not it was a profit or loss maker, perhaps bigger consideration should have for those that collect and have done for many years.

We’re a premier league club - would it have broken the bank to think ‘do you know what, this might cost us a few grand, but it’s be a few grand well spent if it means those that do collect can continue to do so’.

Business isn’t just about the pounds and pence, it’s also about showing that you consider your client base and keeping them on side.

Re: Home programmes this season?

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 1:54 pm
by cricketfieldclarets
DCWat wrote:
Thu Aug 05, 2021 1:53 pm
Whether or not it was a profit or loss maker, perhaps bigger consideration should have for those that collect and have done for many years.

We’re a premier league club - would it have broken the bank to think ‘do you know what, this might cost us a few grand, but it’s be a few grand well spent if it means those that do collect can continue to do so’.

Business isn’t just about the pounds and pence, it’s also about showing that you consider your client base and keeping them on side.
Even taking money out of it. I’m sure with furlough, takeover and everything else there were bigger priorities than printing six programs. And rightly so.

Re: Home programmes this season?

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 1:56 pm
by claretonthecoast1882
DCWat wrote:
Thu Aug 05, 2021 1:53 pm
Whether or not it was a profit or loss maker, perhaps bigger consideration should have for those that collect and have done for many years.

We’re a premier league club - would it have broken the bank to think ‘do you know what, this might cost us a few grand, but it’s be a few grand well spent if it means those that do collect can continue to do so’.

Business isn’t just about the pounds and pence, it’s also about showing that you consider your client base and keeping them on side.
Brief summary so far this pre season is they should have printed them and then lost money on programmes, match day prices too high not paying that, season tickets too expensive not paying that, food and drink too expensive not paying that but why don't the club just spend millions on players.

Re: Home programmes this season?

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 1:58 pm
by Rileybobs
I appreciate that not everything in the garden is rosy at the minute, that’s clear as day. But this messageboard, which used to be a good laugh, now just seems to be used as a vehicle to bitch and whine about every aspect of the club. Shame.

Re: Home programmes this season?

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 2:08 pm
by ClaretTony
cricketfieldclarets wrote:
Thu Aug 05, 2021 1:52 pm
I assume we also didn’t stock pies on match day. Although wouldn’t be surprised if we sell the batch left over from the Spurs game last March 😂
What a totally nonsensical post. But probably no surprise.

Re: Home programmes this season?

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 2:10 pm
by claretonthecoast1882
cricketfieldclarets wrote:
Thu Aug 05, 2021 1:52 pm
I assume we also didn’t stock pies on match day. Although wouldn’t be surprised if we sell the batch left over from the Spurs game last March 😂
They might have cooled down at least

Re: Home programmes this season?

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 2:15 pm
by cricketfieldclarets
ClaretTony wrote:
Thu Aug 05, 2021 2:08 pm
What a totally nonsensical post. But probably no surprise.
It’s the same logic as expecting us to stock programs with no fans.

Re: Home programmes this season?

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 2:18 pm
by ClaretTony
cricketfieldclarets wrote:
Thu Aug 05, 2021 2:15 pm
It’s the same logic as expecting us to stock programs with no fans.
17 Premier League clubs produced programmes last season
0 Premier League clubs stocked pies for behind closed doors games

You are clearly in one of your ‘let’s disrupt the message board’ days. So stop or I’ll do it for you. And to prevent you posting any further ridiculous comments in this thread, it’s locked.