Part cashless at the Turf

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Re: Part cashless at the Turf

Post by ClaretTony » Wed Aug 04, 2021 1:57 pm

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Wed Aug 04, 2021 1:56 pm
These 12 bottles of red and 6 bottles of bourbon probably comes to £20 :D
It was the whisky at a pound a bottle where he gained I think. 😀😀

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Re: Part cashless at the Turf

Post by MACCA » Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:11 pm

Excellent news regarding a cashless Turf, means if ever I'm caught short coming from work, or I'm tempted to buy any over the overpriced crap they serve, they wont accept my cash as payment.

I barely take my bank card anywhere, I'm very much a cash in my pocket type of person.

Well done BFC, I always regret it when I get suckered in to buy something, and now I cant even get suckered in.
Everyones a winner!

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Re: Part cashless at the Turf

Post by jdrobbo » Sat Mar 11, 2023 9:43 pm

Fair to say it came back to bite today (not having a cash option on the concourse). Lots of tills not working in the Longside Concourse (and on the Bob Lord apparently) and those that were working were going ‘three or four times slower’ according to one cashier. Dozens and dozens of people leaving the queues in frustration.

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Re: Part cashless at the Turf

Post by dougcollins » Sat Mar 11, 2023 9:48 pm

Same thing happened in Primark.

My mum says it’s the Russians. She also thinks they control the weather.

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Re: Part cashless at the Turf

Post by Dark Cloud » Sat Mar 11, 2023 9:54 pm

It happened in The Bridge 2 weeks ago on match day. Apparently it was fairly widespread in town and actually happens reasonably frequently. The Bridge had to stop taking card payments and it was cash only for a couple of hours before the match and because loads of people (like me) don't carry cash as a rule they lost plenty of business through no fault of their own. A poor do, I feel.

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Re: Part cashless at the Turf

Post by jdrobbo » Sat Mar 11, 2023 10:15 pm

Surely you’d expect there to be contingencies in place?

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Re: Part cashless at the Turf

Post by distortiondave » Sat Mar 11, 2023 10:55 pm

Nowhere should be cashless unless its completely automated. I get the reasons why businesses prefer cards, I have a business myself, but we still have notes and coins and I couldn't ever countenance refusing someone a washing machine because they want to pay with cash.

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Re: Part cashless at the Turf

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Sat Mar 11, 2023 11:13 pm

I tried putting a bet on in Coral before the game and that was down as well.

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Re: Part cashless at the Turf

Post by basil6345789 » Sat Mar 11, 2023 11:16 pm

dougcollins wrote:
Sat Mar 11, 2023 9:48 pm
Same thing happened in Primark.

My mum says it’s the Russians. She also thinks they control the weather.
Chinese more like

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Re: Part cashless at the Turf

Post by Coeus » Sat Mar 11, 2023 11:20 pm

This may sound a silly question and perhaps legal eagles will know. But if a seller is advertising a product for £5 and you give him a £5 note, can he refuse? In the same way you order a pie and pint at £6. They serve you and you leave £6 cash is there any law broke?

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Re: Part cashless at the Turf

Post by dsr » Sat Mar 11, 2023 11:29 pm

Coeus wrote:
Sat Mar 11, 2023 11:20 pm
This may sound a silly question and perhaps legal eagles will know. But if a seller is advertising a product for £5 and you give him a £5 note, can he refuse? In the same way you order a pie and pint at £6. They serve you and you leave £6 cash is there any law broke?
If the seller is offering to sell you something and you offer a £5 note, he is entitled to refuse because you haven't made a deal yet.

If you order a pie and a pint and you are served with it, then the seller (as I understood it 30 years ago, but I don't think it's changed) can't refuse the £5 note (or £6 note!) because £5 notes are legal tender and if they are offered legal tender in payment of a debt, they must accept it. If they turn it down, the debt is deemed to be settled.

Please don't go to court and quote me on that!

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Re: Part cashless at the Turf

Post by Cirrus_Minor » Sat Mar 11, 2023 11:45 pm

I went on a bit earlier today, so I thought I would treat myself to a Snicker bar whilst I waited. The lad serving put something on the counter, I didn't look, and just pressed my card on the machine. When I did look he had given me a pie and this cost £4. So I asked to replace with my original request, for a Snicker. He didn't know what a Snicker was so I had to point (I think he may have been foreign). So he gave me the Snicker but since this was priced at £2, he couldn't give me change. So asked another chap behind the counter for help. He couldn't arrange the charge either.

So I bought another Snicker.

I think there may be a moral somewhere here, probably look at what you buy before using your card or you may end up with 2 Snickers.

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Re: Part cashless at the Turf

Post by dsr » Sat Mar 11, 2023 11:55 pm

For another £5.50, you could have had a Twix.

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Re: Part cashless at the Turf

Post by distortiondave » Sun Mar 12, 2023 12:04 am

It's not as straightforward as you think, and the term 'malicious compliance' may have been invented for such a thing.

If you owe me, a shop, £100, and you attempt to pay it in 1p pieces because of umbrage, spite, pettiness, whatever, I can refuse, because the maximum I have to accept (legal tender) in copper coins is 20 pence worth. So of the £100 debt you could pay 20 pence of it in 1p and or 2p, then I think it is a fiver each of 5p and 10p, and a tenner or maybe twenty in 20p, up to £100 in pound coins (I think).

However - there will be a terms of entry condition on your ticket or card or whatever that force you to abide by the rules of the 'shop' which you have agreed to by buying a ticket. This is the terms of the contract, part of which enables you to purchase further items. So you don't enter into a contract with Tim the Bob Lord Barman, so you owe him nothing, you've already entered into a contract with BFC Holdings or whatever, and in so doing have agreed to their terms. So yes, they can refuse you service for cash, if that is part of their T&C's.

If you argue the toss and are taken to court then you can pay the outstanding debt with cash, though.

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Re: Part cashless at the Turf

Post by Awayfromburnley » Sun Mar 12, 2023 1:52 am

dougcollins wrote:
Sat Mar 11, 2023 9:48 pm
Same thing happened in Primark.

My mum says it’s the Russians. She also thinks they control the weather.

She's definitely on to something there mate.

Old Vladimir was musing over his options recently.

He had lots of options and in a fit of boredom went with "absolute grey feckin drizzle" .

Location :East Lancs.

**confirm **

Again.

One day the miserable beast will select "heatwave"

One hopes.....
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Re: Part cashless at the Turf

Post by Rick_Muller » Sun Mar 12, 2023 7:55 am

Only use for cash these days appears to be tradesmen who want to fiddle tax. Got asked to pay £2k in cash last week… refused bank transfer and now badgering me for the money! Thing is, cash points (and my bank) limit the daily withdrawal amount. Had I known I wouldn’t have used this chap.

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Re: Part cashless at the Turf

Post by Quickenthetempo » Sun Mar 12, 2023 8:14 am

Rick_Muller wrote:
Sun Mar 12, 2023 7:55 am
Only use for cash these days appears to be tradesmen who want to fiddle tax. Got asked to pay £2k in cash last week… refused bank transfer and now badgering me for the money! Thing is, cash points (and my bank) limit the daily withdrawal amount. Had I known I wouldn’t have used this chap.
This is where you go to bank and withdraw 1800 pounds for him and everyone's a winner.

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Re: Part cashless at the Turf

Post by pureclaret » Sun Mar 12, 2023 12:30 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Sun Mar 12, 2023 8:14 am
This is where you go to bank and withdraw 1800 pounds for him and everyone's a winner.

althouigh some branches may not alow you to draw that much (HSBC Blacburn have no counter ) and though the cash amchine may or may not alow you to draw £1000 / £2000 dependant on time of day.

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Re: Part cashless at the Turf

Post by ŽižkovClaret » Sun Mar 12, 2023 12:36 pm

The power went out in the catering unit nearest the club shop in the Bob Lord when i was last there v Watford. I got a free pie, so i'd say the cashless system worked perfectly well for me on that occasion :)

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Re: Part cashless at the Turf

Post by Boss Hogg » Sun Mar 12, 2023 12:38 pm

The till I was on kept jamming and then started adding up on its own. A meal deal and a radioactive hot dog came to £44. Had to be aborted until it cleared again. It’s quite annoying the cashless aspect and I’m not convinced it’s speeded anything up. The servers go at snails pace and the powdered milk is revolting too.

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Re: Part cashless at the Turf

Post by dougcollins » Sun Mar 12, 2023 1:15 pm

Rick_Muller wrote:
Sun Mar 12, 2023 7:55 am
Only use for cash these days appears to be tradesmen who want to fiddle tax. Got asked to pay £2k in cash last week… refused bank transfer and now badgering me for the money! Thing is, cash points (and my bank) limit the daily withdrawal amount. Had I known I wouldn’t have used this chap.
Banks are all over money laundering right now.
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Re: Part cashless at the Turf

Post by Swizzlestick » Sun Mar 12, 2023 1:17 pm

Rick_Muller wrote:
Sun Mar 12, 2023 7:55 am
Only use for cash these days appears to be tradesmen who want to fiddle tax. Got asked to pay £2k in cash last week… refused bank transfer and now badgering me for the money! Thing is, cash points (and my bank) limit the daily withdrawal amount. Had I known I wouldn’t have used this chap.
Yeah most of them do that. Certainly in my experience anyway. Usually to avoid tax / VAT.

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Re: Part cashless at the Turf

Post by elwaclaret » Sun Mar 12, 2023 1:31 pm

Seems to be the beginning of the end for cash transactions. Automated payments is becoming the norm, which benefits the employer as there is no balancing the til at the days end. These days I very rarely carry more than £20 cash, simply because I don’t use that many places that want cash.

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