The schadenfreude was strong amongst the Dollopers in the 80s and 90s, one I knew quite happily told me he prayed every night in 1987, for us to drop out of the league and fold. Best part was they thought the good days, bankrolled by a sugar daddy, were permanent. But it was all built on sand.
UTC, NNN.

My mate is a Sunderland fan and he and I have seen first hand what an arrangement and ownership model ALK can be like at the worst end of the spectrum and that is frightening. However, until there are signs of that, I am willing to back them to do the opposite.

Armstrong not going to fill too much of the Deadwood money pit.

gawthorpe_view wrote: ↑

Wed Aug 04, 2021 11:52 am

The schadenfreude was strong amongst the Dollopers in the 80s and 90s, one I knew quite happily told me he prayed every night in 1987, for us to drop out of the league and fold. Best part was they thought the good days, bankrolled by a sugar daddy, were permanent. But it was all built on sand.
UTC, NNN.

Can't beat a bit of Schadenfreude. I like mine with a drizzle of claret and blue sauce

Blackburn have extremely rich owners who are willing to bail them out we don’t have that luxury. We have people that used other peoples money to buy the club. We’ve gone from a profitable club to one in massive debt over night. As much as I like the fact that they are in the poop I can’t but think if things go wrong and we get relegated we will be in a worse situation than them. So I’m not gloating over the losses of our neighbours as we could soon be in a worse predicament

Rammy1968 wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 06, 2021 8:57 am

Blackburn have extremely rich owners who are willing to bail them out we don’t have that luxury. We have people that used other peoples money to buy the club. We’ve gone from a profitable club to one in massive debt over night. As much as I like the fact that they are in the poop I can’t but think if things go wrong and we get relegated we will be in a worse situation than them. So I’m not gloating over the losses of our neighbours as we could soon be in a worse predicament

Omg

If there was an Olympic event for doomsday thoughts and negative opinions, Burnley fans would win the gold medal.

Rammy1968 wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 06, 2021 8:57 am

Blackburn have extremely rich owners who are willing to bail them out we don’t have that luxury. We have people that used other peoples money to buy the club. We’ve gone from a profitable club to one in massive debt over night. As much as I like the fact that they are in the poop I can’t but think if things go wrong and we get relegated we will be in a worse situation than them. So I’m not gloating over the losses of our neighbours as we could soon be in a worse predicament

And if my auntie had ********……..

Rammy1968 wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 06, 2021 8:57 am

We’ve gone from a profitable club to one in massive debt over night.

We are still a profitable club, however we now have debt, including that to our former owners. The two are not mutually exclusive.

Unfortunately, we are only profitable thanks to PL TV money, which probably can be said for 75% of the PL Clubs.

6000 season tickets sold ahead of the big kick off. Do well to get 10000 on tomorrow I’d imagine

Local cricketer wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 06, 2021 6:58 pm

6000 season tickets sold ahead of the big kick off. Do well to get 10000 on tomorrow I’d imagine

Got your decimal point in the wrong place there LC ??

arise_sir_charge wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 06, 2021 9:17 am

And if my auntie had ********……..

She'd be an Olympic...

Just read that Mowbray been told even if they cash in on Armstrong he could still be left without funds with Venky’s putting a block on signings this summer.

gawthorpe_view wrote: ↑

Wed Aug 04, 2021 11:52 am

...Best part was they thought the good days, bankrolled by a sugar daddy, were permanent. But it was all built on sand.

A similar mindset to the many on here who were crying out for the heads of Mike Garlick and the rest in the naive belief that an 'investor' and a Fairy Godmother were the same thing.

Local cricketer wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 06, 2021 6:58 pm

6000 season tickets sold ahead of the big kick off. Do well to get 10000 on tomorrow I’d imagine

I understand from a reliable source that the gross figure as of 6pm yesterday was slightly under 5,700. The actual figure of adult STs sold this season however is significantly less..nearer 3k than 6k I'm told.

Blackburn will continue to massage the published attendance figures again this season however by including every possible ticket issued regardless of actual presence.

Swansea are expected to bring a sizeable following.

No Adam Armstrong for Rovers against Swansea today.
Maybe edging towards the exit?

Radio Lancs..."I don't think we're going to see him in a Rovers shirt again... "

BBC reporting offer accepted from Southampton for Armstrong. Presumably signed to replace Danny Ings.

40% of the profit they make from selling him goes to Newcastle.
They paid £1.8 million for him originally, so Newcastle are getting quite a large chunk.

I'd love to laugh at them, but we're potentially up a similar creek sans paddle.

Local cricketer wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 06, 2021 6:58 pm

6000 season tickets sold ahead of the big kick off. Do well to get 10000 on tomorrow I’d imagine

Official attendance given as 10,260, which for the 1st game of the campaign isn't great, and I guess Swansea would have brought a few.

Does this mean the boycott is back on again?

Lowest attendance in the Championship .... just saying !

Clarets4me wrote: ↑

Mon Aug 09, 2021 9:40 pm

Lowest attendance in the Championship .... just saying !

Yes even PNE had 12,500 or thereabouts on, and that would seem a fair comparison to make.

I think the boycotts had its chips. ( if it was ever on)
Even the dimmest Rovers fan will surely have twigged by now that if there's no Venkys, there's no Rovers.

tiger76 wrote: ↑

Mon Aug 09, 2021 9:11 pm

Official attendance given as 10,260, which for the 1st game of the campaign isn't great, and I guess Swansea would have brought a few.

Does this mean the boycott is back on again?

Swansea brought 900 odd

randomclaret2 wrote: ↑

Mon Aug 09, 2021 9:52 pm

Swansea brought 900 odd

So just over 9k of home fans, that's dire considering they've been starved of live football for almost 18 months, and the 1st game of the season usually attracts a good crowd for every team, it'll be interesting whether their attendances boom should they maintain a challenge near the top of the table in the coming months.

To be fair we would have similar if we had their issues.

1) Armstrong being quoted as a £15m sale .... so basically covering their operating losses until roughly Christmas. In reality, it won't happen like that because of staged payments etc ...

2) The reported attendance at Ewood would have included all S/T holders, whether present or not. I suspect the actual number was around 9,500 ...

Clarets4me wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 10, 2021 11:37 pm

1) Armstrong being quoted as a £15m sale .... so basically covering their operating losses until roughly Christmas. In reality, it won't happen like that because of staged payments etc ...

2) The reported attendance at Ewood would have included all S/T holders, whether present or not. I suspect the actual number was around 9,500 ...

Is that £15 million after Newcastle take their 40% cut of any profit over the original £1.8 million Rovers paid for him?

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 10, 2021 11:52 pm

Is that £15 million after Newcastle take their 40% cut of any profit over the original £1.8 million Rovers paid for him?

No, I understand it's £15m, less Newcastle's £5.28m cut of the £13.2m profit .... with t'Rovers making an operating loss of around £440,000 pw, then in very basic terms, that's the losses covered until around Christmas ...

I think we should be more concerned about our shrinking fan base than Rovers, last I heard we had only sold 11,500 season tickets

Clarets4me wrote: ↑

Wed Aug 11, 2021 12:09 am

No, I understand it's £15m, less Newcastle's £5.28m cut of the £13.2m profit .... with t'Rovers making an operating loss of around £440,000 pw, then in very basic terms, that's the losses covered until around Christmas ...

Ouch

Maybe a cup run will help out a bit.

fatboy47 wrote: ↑

Wed Aug 11, 2021 10:03 am

Maybe a cup run will help out a bit.

Well they just reached the last 46 of the northern section of one cup

Clarets4me wrote: ↑

Wed Aug 11, 2021 12:09 am

No, I understand it's £15m, less Newcastle's £5.28m cut of the £13.2m profit .... with t'Rovers making an operating loss of around £440,000 pw, then in very basic terms, that's the losses covered until around Christmas ...

How on earth can they be making losses of £440k a week in the Championship, surely heir wage bill can't be that high can it. I thought they'd offloaded most of their big earners now.

Makes you wonder if the Venkys have lumped a few loss makers together under the London Venkys limited which I think owns bstards, perhaps the accountants on here can explain if this is possible or indeed legal.

tiger76 wrote: ↑

Wed Aug 11, 2021 10:44 am

How on earth can they be making losses of £440k a week in the Championship, surely heir wage bill can't be that high can it. I thought they'd offloaded most of their big earners now.

Check out the wages to turnover...

9100+ home fans on Saturday (950 Swansea away fans) in a crowd of just over 10k.

5250+ crowd last night ... this is the crumbling edifice that is Bollewood no wonder the Venkys losing 440k a week in operating loss.

Never mind ... hey they won (bought) the Premiership nearly 30 years ago you know ... (oh and don't forget the "Full Members Cup" and League Cup) ... all amounts to f'all in the greater scheme of things ...

Lets face it ... their crowds of the late 1990's were made up of disgruntled Citeh Fans who soon deserted them and went back to watch Citeh when the wheels started falling off the Bollewood bus.

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑

Wed Aug 11, 2021 1:09 pm

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Check out the wages to turnover...

'scuse my ignorance... But does the "match day" figure cover ST's and match ticket sales?

Because if so the figures there suggest there must be a pitiful amount of actual adult STHs and walk ons combined.

fatboy47 wrote: ↑

Wed Aug 11, 2021 1:35 pm

'scuse my ignorance... But does the "match day" figure cover ST's and match ticket sales?

Because if so the figures there suggest there must be a pitiful amount of actual adult STHs and walk ons combined.

Yeah, match day includes ticket sales in all forms.
They don't really sell a lot of STs anymore, I think they're on about 6-7k this season.
The rest of the numbers are walk ons and away fans.

Bosscat wrote: ↑

Wed Aug 11, 2021 1:23 pm

Never mind ... hey they won (bought) the Premiership nearly 30 years ago you know ... (oh and don't forget the "Full Members Cup" and League Cup) ... all amounts to f'all in the greater scheme of things ...

Lets face it ... their crowds of the late 1990's were made up of disgruntled Citeh Fans who soon deserted them and went back to watch Citeh when the wheels started falling off the Bollewood bus.

Plus a fair few Nobbers glory hunting.

gawthorpe_view wrote: ↑

Wed Aug 11, 2021 3:33 pm

Plus a fair few Nobbers glory hunting.

Any time spent in Accrington or Clitheroe, will tell you both places are considerably more Claret than they were 25 years ago !!

Have it on good authority that season ticket sales at Ewood are around the 5,800 mark ...

gawthorpe_view wrote: ↑

Wed Aug 11, 2021 3:33 pm

Plus a fair few Nobbers glory hunting.

I know of a ex-Claret who joined the blue ranks because he was fed up watching Burnley. He later had a season ticket at Wigan. I haven’t seen him for ages but the last I heard he was thinking of buying a season ticket for FC United of Manchester.

I think in all fairness he was more a lover of the game itself than a particular team.
Good luck to him.

Clarets4me wrote: ↑

Wed Aug 11, 2021 6:20 pm

Any time spent in Accrington or Clitheroe, will tell you both places are considerably more Claret than they were 25 years ago !!

A new generation obviously brought up to follow the shining path that leads to Turf Moor.
I put it down to good parenting.

Zom Zom wrote: ↑

Wed Aug 11, 2021 7:18 pm

I know of a ex-Claret who joined the blue ranks because he was fed up watching Burnley. He later had a season ticket at Wigan. I haven’t seen him for ages but the last I heard he was thinking of buying a season ticket for FC United of Manchester.

I think in all fairness he was more a lover of the game itself than a particular team.
Good luck to him.

Fecking harlot

gawthorpe_view wrote: ↑

Wed Aug 11, 2021 10:13 pm

A new generation obviously brought up to follow the shining path that leads to Turf Moor.
I put it down to good parenting.

I put it down to PL footy, but if we can attract these kids when they're young, we have a much greater chance of retaining them if and when we're relegated.

tiger76 wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 12, 2021 12:43 pm

I put it down to PL footy, but if we can attract these kids when they're young, we have a much greater chance of retaining them if and when we're relegated.

Exactly this 100%. We have whilst we retain Premier League status a great opportunity to capture the next East Lancs generation of football lovers.

By example... I coach an under 8s team. The majority of the lads are Burnley fans. Many with a ST, one of the lads dads is a big Blackburn fan. His lad refuses to wear a Blackburn jersey, and repeatedly asks his dad for a Burnley kit, and keeps asking him to take him on the Turf. My team isn't based in Burnley either! These are the fans we need to keep for the next generation.

We should be doing everything we can to get them in and Burnley as their first team.

mybloodisclaret wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 12, 2021 1:21 pm

Exactly this 100%. We have whilst we retain Premier League status a great opportunity to capture the next East Lancs generation of football lovers.

By example... I coach an under 8s team. The majority of the lads are Burnley fans. Many with a ST, one of the lads dads is a big Blackburn fan. His lad refuses to wear a Blackburn jersey, and repeatedly asks his dad for a Burnley kit, and keeps asking him to take him on the Turf. My team isn't based in Burnley either! These are the fans we need to keep for the next generation.

We should be doing everything we can to get them in and Burnley as their first team.

Totally agree, and if Alan Pace and his associates want to create a lasting legacy this is where they can really make their mark.

I suspect like many of us I was introduced to the wonders of TM by an older relative, in my case a couple of my uncles who'd been long time goers, and once you've got them hooked, you can generally keep them for life.

Good luck with your coaching, it's great that people such as yourself are willing to undertake teaching the next generation, and who knows in 15 years time we may even see some of your proteges lining up for Burnley.

tiger76 wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 12, 2021 1:35 pm

Totally agree, and if Alan Pace and his associates want to create a lasting legacy this is where they can really make their mark.

I suspect like many of us I was introduced to the wonders of TM by an older relative, in my case a couple of my uncles who'd been long time goers, and once you've got them hooked, you can generally keep them for life.

Good luck with your coaching, it's great that people such as yourself are willing to undertake teaching the next generation, and who knows in 15 years time we may even see some of your proteges lining up for Burnley.

Hoping so! Would love a do in one of the new boxes. Don't get me wrong, I am happy in the CFS, but wouldn't mind seeing how the other half (5%) watch a game.