I spent the first 28 years of my life in that place of misery. They have reaped what they sowed

My worry is what ALK will do. The busy transfer window is nowhere in sight.
Our staff are probably disappearing at a faster rate than the exits from Evilwood

It isn’t nice for any club to be ruined by their owners even that lot.But it is funny

claretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 03, 2021 8:00 am

Fold

Knock the ground down and build a sports direct megastore in its place for the scrubbers to shop at

We should be careful what we wish for. If/when we get relegated and don't make a quick return there is a very good chance we will have massive financial problems like Rovers and Bolton before them.

For all the gloating we could be staring into the abyss within the next ten seasons if we are not too careful.

I want them to do a Stockport,fade into insignificance, Deadwood demolished and they share ground with Darwen then they can huddle around a communal Bovril and recall when the ironmonger bought them a title and Shearer was red hot then they could do a half hearted flem affected chant of Uncle Jack's beermy eerrmy whilst the ref blows for the second half of the local derby versus Oswaldtwistle casuals in the forlorn hope the 4-0 scoreline can be reversed.

Spijed wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 03, 2021 8:36 am

We should be careful what we wish for. If/when we get relegated and don't make a quick return there is a very good chance we will have massive financial problems like Rovers and Bolton before them.

For all the gloating we could be staring into the abyss within the next ten seasons if we are not too careful.

Not a word of the above changes my desire for them to fold and be knocked down

Got Rovers mates too. Don't think I'd want them to fold but a four or five year spell in League Two suffering 0-6 home defeats at home to the likes of Sutton United and Rochdale in front of 2,000 crowds would complete the turnaround in fortunes nicely.

BenWickes wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 03, 2021 8:45 am

Got Rovers mates too. Don't think I'd want them to fold but a four or five year spell in League Two suffering 0-6 home defeats at home to the likes of Sutton United and Rochdale in front of 2,000 crowds would complete the turnaround in fortunes nicely.

An 8 season minimum spell in the bottom tier flirting with the bottom spot would be better ... trumping our 7

woody wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 03, 2021 8:14 am

We’ve sold 11,500 down from 14,500

That’s worse than I anticipated and a worrying figure not just for this season but for future ones too with the price increases.

lrac wrote: ↑

Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:40 pm

Did they not wish that on burnley years ago ?

Yes but we have more class!!!

Not sure how anyone can want a football club, particularly one with so much history, to fold. Not when you consider how much they mean to the supporters and local community.

Bosscat wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 03, 2021 8:52 am

An 8 season minimum spell in the bottom tier flirting with the bottom spot would be better ... trumping our 7

Oh I wouldn't mind them flirting with relegation for every one of those 8 seasons

Knew it wouldn’t be long until ALK were brought into this and our rapid demise predicted by the usual crew.

Chester Perry wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:37 pm
If they were ready to pull the plug why did they do this in June



and this a little later in June

I can imagine that now they dont know themsleves why they are supporting the club. Its just become routine. They must have thought, some time back that they would win promotion and join the billionaires at the top table. That thought/ wish will have been extinguished now and they have a dilemma. Indian Company just pouring monay down a drain??? Doesn't ring true in my experience.

arise_sir_charge wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 03, 2021 9:17 am

Knew it wouldn’t be long until ALK were brought into this and our rapid demise predicted by the usual crew.

It is almost as if the little old Burnley image has become a crumb of comfort for them, and the very fact that this is being challenged makes them uncomfortable so they will the failure to happen.

burnmark wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 03, 2021 8:56 am

That’s worse than I anticipated and a worrying figure not just for this season but for future ones too with the price increases.

Where have those figures come from ?

woody wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 03, 2021 8:14 am

We’ve sold 11,500 down from 14,500

Don't forget, the current climate will be a reason for that and not necessarily football reasons. Some (myself included) might be uncomfortable with parting their money when their might be the re-introduction of restrictions half way through the season.

randomclaret2 wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 03, 2021 9:21 am

Where have those figures come from ?

From Woody earlier in the thread.

Stayingup wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 03, 2021 8:57 am

Yes but we have more class!!!

burnmark wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 03, 2021 9:24 am

From Woody earlier in the thread.

Sorry Mark, I made a mess of that, I was wondering where he got those figures from ?

I can remember a Rovers fan looking me straight in the face and tell me he hoped Burnley would fold ‘just for the laugh’. I looked at him in astonishment. How could you wish the end of one of the oldest rivalries in football, and be a football supporter.

I have lived among, worked among and been friends with Blackburn fans my entire life… they have given me stick, I have given them stick… we’ve even waved and exchanged greetings across no mans land in the days there was a 90 minute trade of anything throwable…

But I love hating Blackburn Rovers. If they go my football passion is reduced. Football itself is reduced and our rivals become who? Leeds, Man United? Does that remind older viewers of another clubs fans… are we really wanting to be rivals to Stockport or Bolton?
Love them or hate them we are yin and yang. Without one the other loses

Be a great spot for a Tesco tbf

woody wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 03, 2021 8:14 am

We’ve sold 11,500 down from 14,500

Wow!! I’d be really shocked at that.

People probably can’t afford it after the pandemic, and/or are worrried about returning

gandhisflipflop wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 03, 2021 9:23 am

Don't forget, the current climate will be a reason for that and not necessarily football reasons. Some (myself included) might be uncomfortable with parting their money when their might be the re-introduction of restrictions half way through the season.

The sense I got, certainly when buying my wife a ST when they went on general sale, was that sales were going very well, but clearly I didn’t know know what the take up was from the 14,500.

I pay annually and didn’t renew last year due to the uncertainty, so was in phase 2. I thought I was all smart initially, then regretted my decision when talk of ballots and the like were being discussed and even more so the £10 deposit. I felt positively relieved when I renewed tbh. If restrictions are reintroduced, I’m pleased that I’ll at least be able to participate in ballots.

What I can’t blame fans for is the general disenchantment at the lack of investment in the team. Nobody can expect fans to keep shelling out their hard earned cash if a level of investment isn’t being made in the squad. Had we done some more of this earlier in the window we may have seen them hold up better.

Blackburn Rovers have owners (incompetent ones) who were and are willing to pour money down the drain to support them even after relegation.

We don't yet know whether our owners are competent. But I think we can be sure that if it all goes belly up, they're not going to fund the club or repay the debts they have run up. Lord knows what Venky's are in this game for, but our are in it for profit. So if an East Lancashire club goes bust, don't automatically assume it will be Blackburn.

randomclaret2 wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 03, 2021 9:37 am

Sorry Mark, I made a mess of that, I was wondering where he got those figures from ?

Was told last Tuesday by a very reliable source within the club. Worrying but not surprising given some of the prices.

Given the percentage of income which comes from ticket sales and the uncertainty caused by the pandemic it isn’t really that worrying

woody wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 03, 2021 11:35 am

Was told last Tuesday by a very reliable source within the club. Worrying but not surprising given some of the prices.

Wouldnt the majority of tickets sold by last Tuesday have been at early bird prices though ?

Culmclaret wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 03, 2021 11:47 am

Given the percentage of income which comes from ticket sales and the uncertainty caused by the pandemic it isn’t really that worrying

I find it worrying as I don’t really want to be sat in a half empty Turf Moor. Also if the worst happens on the pitch our ticket revenues become a little more important.

Culmclaret wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 03, 2021 11:47 am

Given the percentage of income which comes from ticket sales and the uncertainty caused by the pandemic it isn’t really that worrying

However if the figure given above is right, playing in front of home sections only two thirds full is a concern.

arise_sir_charge wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 03, 2021 9:17 am

Knew it wouldn’t be long until ALK were brought into this and our rapid demise predicted by the usual crew.

I'm sure some come up with this crap so that if it did ever happen (God forbid), they'd be on here in a flash to say "I told you so."
Misery must follow them everywhere.

Juan Tanamera wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 03, 2021 2:00 pm

I'm sure some come up with this crap so that if it did ever happen (God forbid), they'd be on here in a flash to say "I told you so."
Misery must follow them everywhere.

You just keep your head firmly planted in the sand

Juan Tanamera wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 03, 2021 2:00 pm

I'm sure some come up with this crap so that if it did ever happen (God forbid), they'd be on here in a flash to say "I told you so."
Misery must follow them everywhere.

The problem is that we have absolutely nothing to fall back on if/when we get relegated apart from a season or two of parachute payments.

FCBurnley wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 03, 2021 12:00 am

Let me remind all those who don’t want Rovers to fold of the following words

Staying Down Forever. Love Rovers

Still want em to survive ?

But if they don't survive we can't take delight in constantly beating them can we, how long is it now, must be approaching 4,000 days now.

If they simply fold, and then reform, which is what I assume would happen, then we'd have to wait many years before getting the chance to continue our winning streak against them.

Spijed wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 03, 2021 2:06 pm

The problem is that we have absolutely nothing to fall back on if/when we get relegated apart from a season or two of parachute payments.

We do have several saleable assets in the event of relegation, but that would only cover our losses for a short time.

And inevitably we would have to cut our cloth accordingly, but the advantage we have over many other Championship clubs, is the relegation clauses in our contracts, that allied to a sale or two should be enough to tide us over, the problem is how we continue to fund our debt repayment with a Championship turnover, especially if we weren't to make an immediate return to the PL.

Don’t want Blackburn to fold. I enjoy them where they are - completely irrelevant. Want them to do an Ipswich basically - spend well over a decade mid table and going nowhere.

dsr wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 03, 2021 10:40 am

Blackburn Rovers have owners (incompetent ones) who were and are willing to pour money down the drain to support them even after relegation.

We don't yet know whether our owners are competent. But I think we can be sure that if it all goes belly up, they're not going to fund the club or repay the debts they have run up. Lord knows what Venky's are in this game for, but our are in it for profit. So if an East Lancashire club goes bust, don't automatically assume it will be Blackburn.

Indeed! I'd rather we focussed on keeping out own affairs in order, than worrying about what Rovers and Venky's are doing.

Like them or loathe them you can't deny the Venky's have put their money where their mouth is, and bizarrely they continue to do so, despite getting no apparent benefit from their large outlay, I don't yet know if our new American owners would be so loyal in the event of relegation, and this plus our new debts, again with no obvious gain to the club, leaves me worried about exactly what ALK'S ultimate aims are for BFC.

I want them to suffer 2 relegations, get em down to League 2. Let em suffer the indignity of 3,000 home crowds for a few years, then the Chicken Farmers pull the plug, then they fold. For good. **** em. All these feelings of community, and they don’t deserve it doesn’t apply to that lot in my book. They wanted us gone in 1987, don’t fool yourselves that they didn’t. What goes around comes around. Fingers crossed that they do from me. Slag me off if you feel like it. It’s just my view. I’m entitled to it. UTC.

Come on, titus, stop messing about sitting on the fence - tell us what you think.

Don't particularly want em to go out of existence, but if it happens I won't shed any tears.

joey13 wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 03, 2021 2:04 pm

You just keep your head firmly planted in the sand

What?

tiger76 wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 03, 2021 3:03 pm

Indeed! I'd rather we focussed on keeping out own affairs in order, than worrying about what Rovers and Venky's are doing.

Like them or loathe them you can't deny the Venky's have put their money where their mouth is, and bizarrely they continue to do so, despite getting no apparent benefit from their large outlay, I don't yet know if our new American owners would be so loyal in the event of relegation, and this plus our new debts, again with no obvious gain to the club, leaves me worried about exactly what ALK'S ultimate aims are for BFC.

I would have thought the aims of ALK for Burnley is to.maintain our EPL status and grow the club.

Anyone feeling sorry for Bollywood FC should have a butchers at spme of the garbage posted on this site ... (I guarantee the sorryness will disappear)

https://ewoodpark.jimdofree.com/ewood-p ... -football/

The creator of this clustef**k website is a total barsteward in the nth degree

Stayingup wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 03, 2021 8:35 pm

I would have thought the aims of ALK for Burnley is to.maintain our EPL status and grow the club.

Well to do that we need to start recruiting some decent players, and I'm sure that is their aims, however I only hope they've got plans in place in the event of relegation, and how we're going to deal with any debts which the club may have accrued during the takeover.

TopCat wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 03, 2021 8:02 am

One of the "benefits" of going down would be a Derby.

That would assume that Rovers, PNE and the Lashers all avoid relegation. I wonder what odds you'd get on all 3 being relegated?

My hopes for the next 20 - 30 years watching Burnley is that we stay as the elite club in the North West, vastly improve our recruiting and youth setups and turn the ground into one with great facilities. If we go down on the odd occasion so be it, but if we have everything in place to buy the right players and recruit from the youth, we should comfortably stay above the likes of blackburn, Preston and Blackpool. If we meet them in the cups or league, I want us to win with room to spare, so they can marvel at how far in real terms we are ahead of them.

I'd never want any of them to go under, a sustained period of dominance will do just nicely.

Stayingup wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 03, 2021 8:35 pm

I would have thought the aims of ALK for Burnley is to.maintain our EPL status and grow the club.

I think the aims of ALK are to make money for themselves.

Fortunately, the best way to do that is to keep the club in the PL. But if we get relegated, then the best way unfortunately will be to sell the saleable players, pay of ALK's debt to Garlick, and possibly even to pay themselves a dividend with the change before selling the shell of the club to a property developer. But be sure of this, ALK are in it for the money.

We are better than this.

Today was the anniversary of that magnificent tie v Aberdeen, when I spent a couple of very happy hours on the cricket field with the Jocks.
I've just binge-watched both series of 'Sunderland Til I Die'
I've got close friends who - bless 'em - are diehard Birmingham City
I'm married to a Newcastle fan

Lesson: different birthright, different shirt & colours. But we are all the same.

The world is full of misery & crap, more so than ever.

Find your pleasures. Enjoy sporting rivalry, mock the failures of those rivals.

But don't wish true, endless and terminal misery on your football-loving kinfolk.

It demeans.

(PS. My credentials: ST throughout the 70s, was at Ewood - and celebrated - when we dismantled stadium roof and chucked it on the pitch, saw THAT Garner-funded plane fly over the Turf v Torquay, 600 mile round trip for Orient game. More but that'll do. I'm a Claret, grew up in Rossy, and won a trophy with Andy Wharton.)

tiger76 wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 03, 2021 9:01 pm

Well to do that we need to start recruiting some decent players, and I'm sure that is their aims, however I only hope they've got plans in place in the event of relegation, and how we're going to deal with any debts which the club may have accrued during the takeover.

I agree recruitment is required and ALK know that and I would think planning is in place. As for plans for relegation that can only be conjecture right now. Its not in my thoughts - says he all smug!!!

Blackburn no longer providing a match day programme

This holier than thou business.

I new many Wovers people, working in the job at the time with a number of their fans, that in 1987 were willing us to fold and found it hilarious the predicament we were in

FUKC 'EM