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England vs India - PROPER cricket - 1st Test
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:05 am
by dandeclaret
Trent bridge is ready...... but the weather looks not to be great for the 4 days after today.
Stokes out and rumours that Pope has failed a fitness test, with Bairstow rumoured to be coming back in...... no doubt to be bowled for 14 by a seamer.
Who do you think will play?
Re: England vs India - PROPER cricket - 1st Test
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:07 am
by claretonthecoast1882
Heard Root & Buttler have been called up by taunton tornados in the big bosh 100 so Atherton & Alec Stewart are filling in for the first 3 days of the test, then the original 2 will be subbed back in.
Re: England vs India - PROPER cricket - 1st Test
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:08 am
by Spijed
dandeclaret wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:05 am
Trent bridge is ready...... but the weather looks not to be great for the 4 days after today.
Stokes out and rumours that Pope has failed a fitness test, with Bairstow rumoured to be coming back in...... no doubt to be bowled for 14 by a seamer.
Who do you think will play?
Doesn't say much for English test cricket at the moment if there are no better alternatives than Bairstow.
Re: England vs India - PROPER cricket - 1st Test
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:09 am
by jdrobbo
Hameed?
Re: England vs India - PROPER cricket - 1st Test
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:09 am
by claretonthecoast1882
Spijed wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:08 am
Doesn't say much for English test cricket at the moment if there are no better alternatives than Bairstow.
Bairstow looks a world beater compared to a top 3 of Burns, Sibley & Crawley
Re: England vs India - PROPER cricket - 1st Test
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:11 am
by Local cricketer
Bairstow been presented with his commemorative 75th cap so he is playing
Re: England vs India - PROPER cricket - 1st Test
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:14 am
by dandeclaret
I think Hameed might replace Crawley JDR..... that's my gut feel. Seems to be some thought that Bess might play instead of Leach, because he can bat a bit better. That's not the right way to go. Don't weaken your bowling attack to prop up your batting.
My XI (from those available) - Burns, Sibley, Hameed, Root, Crawley, Buttler, Robinson, Broad, Wood, Leach, Anderson
Re: England vs India - PROPER cricket - 1st Test
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:17 am
by claretonthecoast1882
dandeclaret wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:14 am
I think Hameed might replace Crawley JDR..... that's my gut feel. Seems to be some thought that Bess might play instead of Leach, because he can bat a bit better. That's not the right way to go. Don't weaken your bowling attack to prop up your batting.
My XI (from those available) - Burns, Sibley, Hameed, Root, Crawley, Buttler, Robinson, Broad, Wood, Leach, Anderson
Think Wood is injured or recovering
Burns, Sibley, Crawley, Root, Bairstow, Buttler, Robinson, Curran (S), Leach, Broad, Anderson
Re: England vs India - PROPER cricket - 1st Test
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:25 am
by CleggHall
Let’s hope for a competitive series of REAL cricket between 2 evenly matched sides though I fancy India will shade it. I watch this Hundred lark on and off but can’t really take to it.
Re: England vs India - PROPER cricket - 1st Test
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:33 am
by dandeclaret
England win the toss and bat....
Re: England vs India - PROPER cricket - 1st Test
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:33 am
by dandeclaret
Team news.....
Bairstow in, Sam Curran in - no spinner again by the sounds of it.
Re: England vs India - PROPER cricket - 1st Test
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:34 am
by ClaretTony
England win the toss and elect to bat
Re: England vs India - PROPER cricket - 1st Test
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:36 am
by dandeclaret
India only pick Jadeja as the spinner I think
Re: England vs India - PROPER cricket - 1st Test
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:37 am
by dandeclaret
England team.....
Burns, Sibley, Crawly, Root, Bairstow, Lawrence, Buttler, Curran, Robinson, Broad, Anderson
Re: England vs India - PROPER cricket - 1st Test
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:38 am
by dandeclaret
India - Sharma, Rahul, Pujara, Kohli, Rahane, Pant, Jadeja, Thakur, Bumrah, Shami, Siraj.....
Re: England vs India - PROPER cricket - 1st Test
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 11:06 am
by matttheclaret
Burns gone in the first over
Re: England vs India - PROPER cricket - 1st Test
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 11:06 am
by ClaretTony
England 0/1, Burns gone.
Re: England vs India - PROPER cricket - 1st Test
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 11:12 am
by Gunfury
claretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:07 am
Heard Root & Buttler have been called up by taunton tornados in the big bosh 100 so Atherton & Alec Stewart are filling in for the first 3 days of the test, then the original 2 will be subbed back in.
How England could do with a quality opening partnership like Atherton and Stewart right now!
Re: England vs India - PROPER cricket - 1st Test
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 1:11 pm
by Spijed
Michael Vaughan summed it up when he said the pendulum had swung so far towards one day cricket that the ECB have neglected the test side of things
Re: England vs India - PROPER cricket - 1st Test
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 1:12 pm
by ClaretTony
Spijed wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 1:11 pm
Michael Vaughan summed it up when he said the pendulum had swung so far towards one day cricket that the ECB have neglected the test side of things
I wouldn’t take much notice of Michael Vaughan
Re: England vs India - PROPER cricket - 1st Test
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 1:24 pm
by Local cricketer
Fantastic interview with Virat on now
Re: England vs India - PROPER cricket - 1st Test
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 1:44 pm
by dandeclaret
Michael Vaughan is muted more on my devices than some posters on here.......
My favourite tweet of the morning was "It's nice to watch 2 hours of cricket without constantly being told how good it is"
Re: England vs India - PROPER cricket - 1st Test
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 1:55 pm
by claretonthecoast1882
Top 3 all gone contributing 45 runs
66/3
Re: England vs India - PROPER cricket - 1st Test
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:01 pm
by matttheclaret
They're way short of the standard required at this level.
10 years ago we played India at home with our top three as Strauss, Cook and Trott. Now Burns, Sibley and Crawley. One hell of a difference there
Re: England vs India - PROPER cricket - 1st Test
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:13 pm
by MACCA
matttheclaret wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:01 pm
They're way short of the standard required at this level.
10 years ago we played India at home with our top three as Strauss, Cook and Trott. Now Burns, Sibley and Crawley. One hell of a difference there
Obviously, as we only had to pick 1 Englishman...
Re: England vs India - PROPER cricket - 1st Test
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:16 pm
by matttheclaret
MACCA wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:13 pm
Obviously, as we only had to pick 1 Englishman...
KP next in at 4 too
Re: England vs India - PROPER cricket - 1st Test
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:27 pm
by MACCA
Very true!
The magician that was KP, he was great when firing, who do we have who can take a game away from the opposition in a session or win a game on their own?
Even with all his faults he was still great to watch.
Re: England vs India - PROPER cricket - 1st Test
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:32 pm
by RVclaret
MACCA wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:27 pm
Very true!
The magician that was KP, he was great when firing, who do we have who can take a game away from the opposition in a session or win a game on their own?
Even with all his faults he was still great to watch.
Erm Ben Stokes?
Re: England vs India - PROPER cricket - 1st Test
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:56 pm
by MACCA
RVclaret wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:32 pm
Erm Ben Stokes?
Oh, I thought he was taking a break from cricket.
Stokes it is, hopefully he will slap it about this afternoon and get the crowd and the rest of the team going again.
Re: England vs India - PROPER cricket - 1st Test
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 3:34 pm
by tiger76
Much needed stand between Root/Bairstow, 133-3 now, but one or both of these have to make a ton, having gained 1st use of the track England should looking at 400-450 in our 1st dig.
The top order is a continuing problem, Burns got out in the 1st over, that can happen against good bowlers, and with a new ball, but both Sibley & Crawley both got starts, and then couldn't manage to go on.
Not sure about omitting a spinner, but I suppose Root can always fill in if the seamers need a rest, I'm guessing by the fact that India have only selected one spinner it's a typical English seamers paradise, if so Anderson & Broad will fancy themselves to bowl well, but firstly England need to put a total on the board.
Re: England vs India - PROPER cricket - 1st Test
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 3:40 pm
by dandeclaret
tiger76 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 3:34 pm
Much needed stand between Root/Bairstow, 133-3 now, but one or both of these have to make a ton, having gained 1st use of the track England should looking at 400-450 in our 1st dig.
The top order is a continuing problem, Burns got out in the 1st over, that can happen against good bowlers, and with a new ball, but both Sibley & Crawley both got starts, and then couldn't manage to go on.
Not sure about omitting a spinner, but I suppose Root can always fill in if the seamers need a rest, I'm guessing by the fact that India have only selected one spinner it's a typical English seamers paradise, if so Anderson & Broad will fancy themselves to bowl well, but firstly England need to put a total on the board.
When has 400-450 been the norm in swinging conditions on English wickets?
300-350 is the norm for 1st innings surely?
Re: England vs India - PROPER cricket - 1st Test
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 3:43 pm
by claretonthecoast1882
Bairstow being Bairstow
Re: England vs India - PROPER cricket - 1st Test
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 3:45 pm
by ClaretTony
138/4 at tea - Bairstow gone for 29, reviewed lbw.
Re: England vs India - PROPER cricket - 1st Test
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 3:46 pm
by joey13
ClaretTony wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 3:45 pm
138/4 at tea - Bairstow gone for 29, reviewed lbw.
Bairstow review
Re: England vs India - PROPER cricket - 1st Test
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 3:47 pm
by RVclaret
joey13 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 3:46 pm
Bairstow review
It was India’s review.
Re: England vs India - PROPER cricket - 1st Test
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 3:50 pm
by tiger76
Bit of a blow losing JB on the stroke of tea, India now with the slight edge, and as usual a lot riding on the captain's shoulders.
Re: England vs India - PROPER cricket - 1st Test
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 3:57 pm
by DAVETHEVICAR
Think 280 be good score with conditions assisting swing bowlers.
Plenty of rain forecast from today so may struggle for a result
Re: England vs India - PROPER cricket - 1st Test
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 3:57 pm
by joey13
RVclaret wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 3:47 pm
It was India’s review.
Re: England vs India - PROPER cricket - 1st Test
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 3:58 pm
by claretonthecoast1882
DAVETHEVICAR wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 3:57 pm
Think 280 be good score with conditions assisting swing bowlers.
Plenty of rain forecast from today so may struggle for a result
Draw is already odds on fav
Re: England vs India - PROPER cricket - 1st Test
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 4:03 pm
by jrgbfc
Hameed has to be worth a go in place of Sibley.
Re: England vs India - PROPER cricket - 1st Test
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 4:03 pm
by ClaretTony
Lawrence gone without troubling the scorers
138/5
Re: England vs India - PROPER cricket - 1st Test
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 4:09 pm
by Vino blanco
I've said it before on here, Root apart, this is the worst Test Team batting line up I have ever seen play for England, and I go back to Ken Barrington and Fred Trueman etc.
Re: England vs India - PROPER cricket - 1st Test
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 4:14 pm
by dandeclaret
Imagine test batters not being in great form for test match cricket, when there hasn't been A SINGLE first class game in the country for over 2 months?
The domestic cricketing calendar is a shambles, and the sights should be pointed squarely at the ECB. I'd argue the talent is there, however, the environment to hone skills, build momentum etc is not there.
Re: England vs India - PROPER cricket - 1st Test
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 4:16 pm
by matttheclaret
Vino blanco wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 4:09 pm
I've said it before on here, Root apart, this is the worst Test Team batting line up I have ever seen play for England, and I go back to Ken Barrington and Fred Trueman etc.
Other than Root, they all average less than 35. Impossible to be a good side with such an awful batting lineup
Re: England vs India - PROPER cricket - 1st Test
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 4:17 pm
by ClaretTony
dandeclaret wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 4:14 pm
Imagine test batters not being in great form for test match cricket, when there hasn't been A SINGLE first class game in the country for over 2 months?
The domestic cricketing calendar is a shambles, and the sights should be pointed squarely at the ECB. I'd argue the talent is there, however, the environment to hone skills, build momentum etc is not there.
Just before tea the camera went on Jos Buttler sat watching. They mentioned how long it had been since he’d played any red ball cricket. It was a long time and then he’s straight into a test match. It’s ridiculous.
Re: England vs India - PROPER cricket - 1st Test
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 4:25 pm
by ClaretTony
And Buttler gone without scoring and from 18 balls. Poor shot, caught behind.
145/6
Re: England vs India - PROPER cricket - 1st Test
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 4:28 pm
by dandeclaret
Surprise surprise..... man who hasn't played red ball cricket for months and months fails to score.
Lack of talent? Lack of application? Lack of game structure? Lack of opportunity?
I'll let you decide?
PS - anyone fancy some Pom Bears or Wotsits or something?
Re: England vs India - PROPER cricket - 1st Test
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 4:34 pm
by Bordeauxclaret
dandeclaret wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 4:14 pm
Imagine test batters not being in great form for test match cricket, when there hasn't been A SINGLE first class game in the country for over 2 months?
There was a round of games less than a month ago.
Re: England vs India - PROPER cricket - 1st Test
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 4:40 pm
by DAVETHEVICAR
Root gone now
Re: England vs India - PROPER cricket - 1st Test
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 4:41 pm
by MACCA
The rain will save us this time.
