Danny Ings signs for Villa

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Re: Danny Ings signs for Villa

Post by Fretters » Wed Aug 04, 2021 8:15 pm

I really thought Ings would go to Spurs.

Watkins, Bailey, Ings and Wesley. Not a bad set of forwards at Villa (on paper).

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Re: Danny Ings signs for Villa

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Wed Aug 04, 2021 9:09 pm

He ain't gonna settle for being 2nd choice, so he's either playing alongside Watkins or Watkins is off.

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Re: Danny Ings signs for Villa

Post by RVclaret » Wed Aug 04, 2021 9:11 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Wed Aug 04, 2021 9:09 pm
He ain't gonna settle for being 2nd choice, so he's either playing alongside Watkins or Watkins is off.
Most likely Watkins plays off the left or right which he used to. Buendia in behind and Leon Bailey on the other wing.
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Re: Danny Ings signs for Villa

Post by Spijed » Wed Aug 04, 2021 9:17 pm

Mixed comments on the Villa forum regarding Ings:
https://www.villatalk.com/topic/22074-d ... s/page/32/

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Re: Danny Ings signs for Villa

Post by Vegas Claret » Wed Aug 04, 2021 9:30 pm

Tall Paul wrote:
Wed Aug 04, 2021 8:07 pm
Because we're entitled to a slice of their profit and that is part of it.
Yeah, we got that slice when they sold him to Saints. Saints have sold him this time

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Re: Danny Ings signs for Villa

Post by Jakubs Tash » Wed Aug 04, 2021 9:34 pm

Tall Paul wrote:
Wed Aug 04, 2021 7:09 pm
He's only missed 9 games in the last two seasons.
And missed 23 in the last 3 years. There’s no doubt he’ll pull his hamstring at least once next season. He’s prone to muscle pulls.

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Re: Danny Ings signs for Villa

Post by Tall Paul » Wed Aug 04, 2021 9:35 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Wed Aug 04, 2021 9:30 pm
Yeah, we got that slice when they sold him to Saints. Saints have sold him this time
But any additional money Liverpool receive is additional profit that we get a piece of.

Looks like it's not as much as suggested, Liverpool are getting 20% of anything over £20m, which was the fee Southampton paid, according to James Pearce.

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Re: Danny Ings signs for Villa

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Wed Aug 04, 2021 9:51 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Wed Aug 04, 2021 9:11 pm
Most likely Watkins plays off the left or right which he used to. Buendia in behind and Leon Bailey on the other wing.
Yeah I've seen that mentioned on twitter since my comment.

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Re: Danny Ings signs for Villa

Post by boatshed bill » Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:06 pm

Some suggestion that Villa may go for Tammy Abraham.
It would be a great move for him given that Tuchel doesn't rate him.

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Re: Danny Ings signs for Villa

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:15 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:06 pm
Some suggestion that Villa may go for Tammy Abraham.
It would be a great move for him given that Tuchel doesn't rate him.
I've seen on twitter that Chelsea are really trying to get Lukaku back, so Inter would then sign a lad from Atalanta and in turn Atalanta want Abraham.

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Re: Danny Ings signs for Villa

Post by beddie » Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:19 pm

BurnleyFC wrote:
Wed Aug 04, 2021 8:11 pm
I like Danny Ings, but this is hardly the Man City move that was rumoured to be happening.

Not really a step up from Saints, especially when Villa look like losing Grealish.
I bet its a step up of cash though, usually the deciding factor.

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Re: Danny Ings signs for Villa

Post by boatshed bill » Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:24 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:15 pm
I've seen on twitter that Chelsea are really trying to get Lukaku back, so Inter would then sign a lad from Atalanta and in turn Atalanta want Abraham.
No chance of us sneaking in for him first then? :D

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Re: Danny Ings signs for Villa

Post by ClaretMov » Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:26 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Wed Aug 04, 2021 6:40 pm
That came out of the blue
I told you on Sunday
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Re: Danny Ings signs for Villa

Post by SouthLondonexile » Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:31 pm

As I’ve said before I wish him well but I remain doubtful that he will stay free of long term injuries.

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Re: Danny Ings signs for Villa

Post by Claret_tinted » Thu Aug 05, 2021 12:20 am

Spijed wrote:
Wed Aug 04, 2021 9:17 pm
Mixed comments on the Villa forum regarding Ings:
https://www.villatalk.com/topic/22074-d ... s/page/32/

Lukaku and Kane are less than 12 months younger than him and both rumoured to be in the £100 million + bracket. He scores as many goals as either of them.

This is the best comment on there! Ings will score 20 plus in this Villa side.

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Re: Danny Ings signs for Villa

Post by claptrappers_union » Thu Aug 05, 2021 7:36 am

I was hoping to see Ings at Manchester City, but I think Villa is a great move for him.

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Re: Danny Ings signs for Villa

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Thu Aug 05, 2021 7:56 am

Surprised to see so many describing the signing as a very good bit of business.

No sell on value and he is 30 next year, the age when it means your legs have gone.

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Re: Danny Ings signs for Villa

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Aug 05, 2021 7:58 am

claptrappers_union wrote:
Thu Aug 05, 2021 7:36 am
I was hoping to see Ings at Manchester City, but I think Villa is a great move for him.
I find it incredible to think that anyone could think he'd go to Man City.

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Re: Danny Ings signs for Villa

Post by claptrappers_union » Thu Aug 05, 2021 8:50 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Thu Aug 05, 2021 7:58 am
I find it incredible to think that anyone could think he'd go to Man City.

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You’re going back to your old ways Tony, please stop

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Re: Danny Ings signs for Villa

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Aug 05, 2021 8:53 am

claptrappers_union wrote:
Thu Aug 05, 2021 8:50 am
You’re going back to your old ways Tony, please stop
??????

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Re: Danny Ings signs for Villa

Post by box_of_frogs » Thu Aug 05, 2021 8:56 am

FeedTheArf wrote:
Wed Aug 04, 2021 6:57 pm
Signings don’t mean success.
No signings almost certainly won’t mean success too.

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Re: Danny Ings signs for Villa

Post by willsclarets » Thu Aug 05, 2021 9:19 am

Totally agree with Tony, he's a good player but he's not a player pep would consider I don't think. Ings is just not quite that level, he's lost Ageuro and is looking for a world class replacement. Kane, yes, Haaland, yes/potentially, Messi, yes, Danny Ings, no.

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Re: Danny Ings signs for Villa

Post by Woodleyclaret » Thu Aug 05, 2021 9:42 am

One last payday ,but it's a long walk to take his dog to the beach

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Re: Danny Ings signs for Villa

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Thu Aug 05, 2021 9:44 am

willsclarets wrote:
Thu Aug 05, 2021 9:19 am
Totally agree with Tony, he's a good player but he's not a player pep would consider I don't think. Ings is just not quite that level, he's lost Ageuro and is looking for a world class replacement. Kane, yes, Haaland, yes/potentially, Messi, yes, Danny Ings, no.
Yet they still persist with Jesus who's a worse striker than Ings in the PL.

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Re: Danny Ings signs for Villa

Post by willsclarets » Thu Aug 05, 2021 10:10 am

I don't think that's true. Ings has a slightly better record, but jesus is 5 years younger. Jesus also has a 1 in 2 record in the champions league. In the prem Jesus has 50 goals in 131 appearances, and Ings has 55 in 140. And before you say it, I know man city are a better side, but there's zero guarantee ings scores more goals in a man city shirt than he did in a Southampton one. All in all, I'm not sure there's much to back up the idea Jesus is worse than ings. And if anything pep is looking for a better striker than Jesus. A 29 year old ings with no champions league pedigree isn't that player

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Re: Danny Ings signs for Villa

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Thu Aug 05, 2021 10:51 am

willsclarets wrote:
Thu Aug 05, 2021 10:10 am
I don't think that's true. Ings has a slightly better record, but jesus is 5 years younger. Jesus also has a 1 in 2 record in the champions league. In the prem Jesus has 50 goals in 131 appearances, and Ings has 55 in 140. And before you say it, I know man city are a better side, but there's zero guarantee ings scores more goals in a man city shirt than he did in a Southampton one. All in all, I'm not sure there's much to back up the idea Jesus is worse than ings. And if anything pep is looking for a better striker than Jesus. A 29 year old ings with no champions league pedigree isn't that player

You could argue there is no way that Jesus scores more goals for Southampton that he does for City, in fact you can guarantee he scores quite a lot less.

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Re: Danny Ings signs for Villa

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Aug 05, 2021 10:54 am

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Thu Aug 05, 2021 10:51 am
You could argue there is no way that Jesus scores more goals for Southampton that he does for City, in fact you can guarantee he scores quite a lot less.
You can't guarantee that at all. If it is just about goals though, Ings scored 12 in 29 games last season, Wood scored 12 in 33.

I rate Ings highly, I think he's done well to get a move from Southampton to Villa. But I'd have been absolutely stunned had City gone near him, I'm sure that was all the work of the player's agent.

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Re: Danny Ings signs for Villa

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Thu Aug 05, 2021 10:58 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Thu Aug 05, 2021 10:54 am
You can't guarantee that at all. If it is just about goals though, Ings scored 12 in 29 games last season, Wood scored 12 in 33.

I rate Ings highly, I think he's done well to get a move from Southampton to Villa. But I'd have been absolutely stunned had City gone near him, I'm sure that was all the work of the player's agent.

No part of me is saying I expected him to sign for City, I actually thought he would have been a choice for Spurs.

To use your Chris Wood analogy, he would score more for City than he does for us playing the same number of games.

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Re: Danny Ings signs for Villa

Post by aggi » Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:02 am

Tall Paul wrote:
Wed Aug 04, 2021 9:35 pm
But any additional money Liverpool receive is additional profit that we get a piece of.

Looks like it's not as much as suggested, Liverpool are getting 20% of anything over £20m, which was the fee Southampton paid, according to James Pearce.
Yep, sell-ons are virtually always based on profit.

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Re: Danny Ings signs for Villa

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:06 am

Tall Paul wrote:
Wed Aug 04, 2021 9:35 pm
But any additional money Liverpool receive is additional profit that we get a piece of.

Looks like it's not as much as suggested, Liverpool are getting 20% of anything over £20m, which was the fee Southampton paid, according to James Pearce.
Has there been any indication of what the fee might be? I know we get 20% of the 20% Liverpool get.

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Re: Danny Ings signs for Villa

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:07 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:06 am
Has there been any indication of what the fee might be? I know we get 20% of the 20% Liverpool get.
Some say 25m some say 30m

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Re: Danny Ings signs for Villa

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:19 am

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:07 am
Some say 25m some say 30m
So we get between £200,000 and £400,000.

We got £6.5 million initially plus add ons that we never got any of due to him not playing much for Liverpool and it being based on appearances.

If it was £20 million to Southampton then we'd have got a further £2.7 million (20% of £13.5 million).

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Re: Danny Ings signs for Villa

Post by RVclaret » Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:20 am

Seems it’s 25 + 5 add ons. Liverpool get 20% of the profit (£5m) so they’d get £1m. So we won’t be getting much, £200k there or thereabouts.

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Re: Danny Ings signs for Villa

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:27 am

RVclaret wrote:
Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:20 am
Seems it’s 25 + 5 add ons. Liverpool get 20% of the profit (£5m) so they’d get £1m. So we won’t be getting much, £200k there or thereabouts.
With potentially a further £200,000 with the add ons.

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