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2021/22: Burnley v Rochdale – Ticket Information
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Rochdale had less that 500 left yesterday out of an allocation of 2,354. I reckon they will sell it with another week, should make for a decentish atmosphere in the CFS.
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Re: 2021/22: Burnley v Rochdale – Ticket Information
Looking at our stands, we have hardly sold any tickets in any stand
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With less than a week to go, and going off current sales, we are looking at a gate of around 6k, and that's with the 2300 Rochdale fans.
The ground is going to look extreamely empty on what I thought was an excellent pricing structure.
Fans cannot complain about not getting their seats IF the club ever decide to close a part of a stand or 2 for the next cup game.
Which after the Rochdale game and gate theyd be crazy not too.
I sit in the cricketfield and that should be closed first and foremost along with Jimmy Mac lower, as it's the worst view and facilities, and must indirectly cost the club by opening them up for nothing cup games.
The ground is going to look extreamely empty on what I thought was an excellent pricing structure.
Fans cannot complain about not getting their seats IF the club ever decide to close a part of a stand or 2 for the next cup game.
Which after the Rochdale game and gate theyd be crazy not too.
I sit in the cricketfield and that should be closed first and foremost along with Jimmy Mac lower, as it's the worst view and facilities, and must indirectly cost the club by opening them up for nothing cup games.
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Re: 2021/22: Burnley v Rochdale – Ticket Information
I don't think the attendance will be any reflection on the ticket pricing. Most of the cost for many fans is buying food, drink and the travel. Couple that with maybe having to duck out of work early it's not an attractive scenario.
Of course, our total lack of commitment in this competition for multiple years is probably coming back to bite us. Even when we put a half decent looking team out they don't look like they are trying. It's just like a training ground run out.
Yes, I've got a ticket, in fact I'm trying out the new hospitality. At least it'll be an interesting evening seeing what improvements have been made there, even if the football turns out to be poor.
Of course, our total lack of commitment in this competition for multiple years is probably coming back to bite us. Even when we put a half decent looking team out they don't look like they are trying. It's just like a training ground run out.
Yes, I've got a ticket, in fact I'm trying out the new hospitality. At least it'll be an interesting evening seeing what improvements have been made there, even if the football turns out to be poor.
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If the club take cup games more seriously then the fan's would to, crap football from the second team equals low gate's, it's not rocket scienceMACCA wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 1:26 pmWith less than a week to go, and going off current sales, we are looking at a gate of around 6k, and that's with the 2300 Rochdale fans.
The ground is going to look extreamely empty on what I thought was an excellent pricing structure.
Fans cannot complain about not getting their seats IF the club ever decide to close a part of a stand or 2 for the next cup game.
Which after the Rochdale game and gate theyd be crazy not too.
I sit in the cricketfield and that should be closed first and foremost along with Jimmy Mac lower, as it's the worst view and facilities, and must indirectly cost the club by opening them up for nothing cup games.
Re: 2021/22: Burnley v Rochdale – Ticket Information
True, first time I've gone on a cup game for probably 4 seasons, but just thought the pricing was very fair, and I think it's the game we will see hopefully 3 or 4 of the new lads start a competitive game.
I'm taking a few extra people on who wouldnt normally go on due to the price.
But agree it will take a season or 2 of taking these games a bit more serious to wet the appetite of those that now stay away due to years and years of cup neglect.
Re: 2021/22: Burnley v Rochdale – Ticket Information
MACCA wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 6:48 pmTrue, first time I've gone on a cup game for probably 4 seasons, but just thought the pricing was very fair, and I think it's the game we will see hopefully 3 or 4 of the new lads start a competitive game.
I'm taking a few extra people on who wouldnt normally go on due to the price.
But agree it will take a season or 2 of taking these games a bit more serious to wet the appetite of those that now stay away due to years and years of cup neglect.
I just about still attend the cup games but bloody hell it's wearing thing
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Re: 2021/22: Burnley v Rochdale – Ticket Information
Looking forward to having a choice of seats near the one I’ve reserved. Nice to try out different views.
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Most of our cup games are made up of 70% second team player's, Fulham away had 3 regular first team player's in
Bournemouth at home had 2 regular first team player's in, I'd call that a "second team", and that's just looking at last season.
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Whinging about the line up in a cup tie we won is higher level weird
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And I, and probably the Manager, would call those 'squad' teams.
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I don’t normally do these cup games because of our usually pathetic attempts in them. It’s fairly priced though and the kids enjoy it so I’ll attend but am hoping for a better effort on the pitch. The new owners will see the financial impact of our recent lame performances and weak squads. Good idea to get some younger ones in at these prices and maybe aim some half time entertainment at them.
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Re: 2021/22: Burnley v Rochdale – Ticket Information
Last season in this cup
v Sheff Utd
Nick Pope, Matt Lowton, Kevin Long, Jimmy Dunne, Charlie Taylor, Jόhann Berg Guðmundsson (Erik Pieters 15), Josh Brownhill, Ashley Westwood (Josh Benson 75), Robbie Brady, Jay Rodriguez (Chris Wood 82), Matěj Vydra. Subs not used: Bailey Peacock-Farrell, Phil Bardsley, Bobby Thomas, Dwight McNeil.
v Millwall
Bailey Peacock-Farrell, Matt Lowton, Bobby Thomas, Jimmy Dunne, Charlie Taylor, Erik Pieters, Josh Benson, Josh Brownhill (Ashley Westwood 73), Dwight McNeil (Anthony Glennon 82), Jay Rodriguez (Chris Wood 16), Matěj Vydra. Subs not used: Will Norris, Phil Bardsley, Kevin Long, Mace Goodridge.
v Man City
Bailey Peacock-Farrell, Matt Lowton (Phil Bardsley 78), Kevin Long, James Tarkowski, Charlie Taylor, Dwight McNeil, Josh Brownhill, Ashley Westwood, Erik Pieters, Ashley Barnes (Josh Benson 69), Matěj Vydra (Chris Wood ht). Subs not used: Will Norris, Jimmy Dunne, Anthony Glennon, Mace Goodridge.
It is hardly like we play our under 18 squad in this cup.
v Sheff Utd
Nick Pope, Matt Lowton, Kevin Long, Jimmy Dunne, Charlie Taylor, Jόhann Berg Guðmundsson (Erik Pieters 15), Josh Brownhill, Ashley Westwood (Josh Benson 75), Robbie Brady, Jay Rodriguez (Chris Wood 82), Matěj Vydra. Subs not used: Bailey Peacock-Farrell, Phil Bardsley, Bobby Thomas, Dwight McNeil.
v Millwall
Bailey Peacock-Farrell, Matt Lowton, Bobby Thomas, Jimmy Dunne, Charlie Taylor, Erik Pieters, Josh Benson, Josh Brownhill (Ashley Westwood 73), Dwight McNeil (Anthony Glennon 82), Jay Rodriguez (Chris Wood 16), Matěj Vydra. Subs not used: Will Norris, Phil Bardsley, Kevin Long, Mace Goodridge.
v Man City
Bailey Peacock-Farrell, Matt Lowton (Phil Bardsley 78), Kevin Long, James Tarkowski, Charlie Taylor, Dwight McNeil, Josh Brownhill, Ashley Westwood, Erik Pieters, Ashley Barnes (Josh Benson 69), Matěj Vydra (Chris Wood ht). Subs not used: Will Norris, Jimmy Dunne, Anthony Glennon, Mace Goodridge.
It is hardly like we play our under 18 squad in this cup.
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Re: 2021/22: Burnley v Rochdale – Ticket Information
It’s not just the team selection is it. People get to watch Premier League football week in, week out. Most of them just don’t have a great deal of interest in early round midweek night cup ties against League 1 and 2 opposition.
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Re: 2021/22: Burnley v Rochdale – Ticket Information
Almost every team in the country gets lower crowds in this competition.
In a recent season Man City with their squad and brand of football had over 20k empty seats for the 1st leg of the semi finals.
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What a load of crap, I was once told on here its Burnleyyou go to watch not the opposition.......what will be the reason given on here when the gate v Rochdale is under 8k, its a game that we should score a few goals, its a game we should win easy, we are playing a club 30 minutes drive away and a local derby against a team a lot of Burnley fan's will have never seen play against.
The reason is we play a second team with no respect to cup competition's (including European football) and we go out in the early rounds, that's why fan's vote with their feet and no other reason and before you ask yes I'll be there like always but I can see why plenty more don't
Re: 2021/22: Burnley v Rochdale – Ticket Information
So you think that if the Manager announced that he was going to play the 1st 11 that we'd sell out?ClaretMov wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 9:38 amWhat a load of crap, I was once told on here its Burnleyyou go to watch not the opposition.......what will be the reason given on here when the gate v Rochdale is under 8k, its a game that we should score a few goals, its a game we should win easy, we are playing a club 30 minutes drive away and a local derby against a team a lot of Burnley fan's will have never seen play against.
The reason is we play a second team with no respect to cup competition's (including European football) and we go out in the early rounds, that's why fan's vote with their feet and no other reason and before you ask yes I'll be there like always but I can see why plenty more don't
Re: 2021/22: Burnley v Rochdale – Ticket Information
No we wouldn't sell out in the early rounds who does ??, but if we had an history of taking cup games more seriously and had 6 or 7 first team regulars in the team then the gate v Rochdale would be 12 to 14k instead of half that
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Which cup game are you thinking of when we didn't play 6 or 7 first team regulars ?
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Re: 2021/22: Burnley v Rochdale – Ticket Information
No, if we played the full first team and guaranteed that, there would still be nowhere near 12 to 14k there. We'd only just over 15,600 home fans there for Brighton.
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Bournemouth last season at home in the fa cup to reach the last 8claretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 9:49 amWhich cup game are you thinking of when we didn't play 6 or 7 first team regulars ?
McNeil 100% yes
Gudmundsson (just about because of his injuries)
Vydra (I'll give you that one free only because of the games he played in the back end of the season)
That's 3 borderline 2
One example of most cup games under Dyche
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ClaretMov wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 10:15 amBournemouth last season at home in the fa cup to reach the last 8
McNeil 100% yes
Gudmundsson (just about because of his injuries)
Vydra (I'll give you that one free only because of the games he played in the back end of the season)
That's 3 borderline 2
One example of most cup games under DycheScreenshot_20210916-100220_Chrome.jpg
Most cup games is a lie, why have you ignored all 3 games in the same competition as this last season ? The players used when we went out of the FA cup to Norwich in the previous season were pretty much first choice. Even when we lost to Accrington the vast majority were senior players. If we had a history of putting out sides that weren't capable of beating the team we were against you would have a point.
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Re: 2021/22: Burnley v Rochdale – Ticket Information
Glennon came in at the 11th hour because Pieters couldn't play.ClaretMov wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 10:15 amBournemouth last season at home in the fa cup to reach the last 8
McNeil 100% yes
Gudmundsson (just about because of his injuries)
Vydra (I'll give you that one free only because of the games he played in the back end of the season)
That's 3 borderline 2
One example of most cup games under DycheScreenshot_20210916-100220_Chrome.jpg
I do think Bournemouth is a poor example because we had vital league games around that time with injuries piling up. Didn't we win at Palace in the next game some four days later?
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Of course it is but then using virtually any other cup tie wouldn't have suited the agendaClaretTony wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 10:23 amGlennon came in at the 11th hour because Pieters couldn't play.
I do think Bournemouth is a poor example because we had vital league games around that time with injuries piling up. Didn't we win at Palace in the next game some four days later?
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Sorry don't agree, playing a strong team and with a history of respecting cup competitions, local Derby against a team we haven’t played for 34 years, £10 prices and the 2.5k away following we would have at least 12k on with 10k of those being home fans, instead of the embarrassing 5k home fans we will have on next weekClaretTony wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 9:56 amNo, if we played the full first team and guaranteed that, there would still be nowhere near 12 to 14k there. We'd only just over 15,600 home fans there for Brighton.
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Before this myth became the truth about the selected team we played 3 home games in 2011 12 not one of those games drew a crowd over 4,273, 1 home tie in 2012 13 crowd 4,119. In 2013 14 we managed 10k against Preston, won that then got 6,405 in the next round against Forest. The following season under 5k against Sheff Wed.ClaretMov wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 10:27 amSorry don't agree, playing a strong team and with a history of respecting cup competitions, local Derby against a team we haven’t played for 34 years, £10 prices and the 2.5k away following we would have at least 12k on with 10k of those being home fans, instead of the embarrassing 5k we will have on next week
These all took place with strong 11s and the myth about tossing cup games hadn't begun.
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If you think that in terms of a potential attendance then you either have an agenda or are living in dream land. It's 28 years btw and local as it may be, it hardly falls into the 'local derby' that games against others would.ClaretMov wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 10:27 amSorry don't agree, playing a strong team and with a history of respecting cup competitions, local Derby against a team we haven’t played for 34 years, £10 prices and the 2.5k away following we would have at least 12k on with 10k of those being home fans, instead of the embarrassing 5k home fans we will have on next week
Back in the first promotion season to the Premier League (2008/09), having beaten Bury, we played Oldham at home. The attendance was 5,528. In the next round against a Premier League club (Fulham) it was onlyn 7,119.
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You asked a questionclaretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 10:26 amOf course it is but then using virtually any other cup tie wouldn't have suited the agenda
Which "cup game" are you thinking of when we didn't play 6 or 7 first team regulars
I give you an answer to that question don't change the question to suite the agenda
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Well done picking the 1 where in the following 10 days we played Palace, Fulham & West Brom.
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Yes you're right It wasn't 30 odd years ago it feels longer lol when We last played Rochdale it was 28 years ago in the fa cup 2nd round and the gate was 11,388 2 weeks before Christmas when gates are lower and it will still be miles bigger than this gateClaretTony wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 10:34 amIf you think that in terms of a potential attendance then you either have an agenda or are living in dream land. It's 28 years btw and local as it may be, it hardly falls into the 'local derby' that games against others would.
Back in the first promotion season to the Premier League (2008/09), having beaten Bury, we played Oldham at home. The attendance was 5,528. In the next round against a Premier League club (Fulham) it was onlyn 7,119.
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What's the excuses for the weak team's in the Europa games ????claretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 10:37 amWell done picking the 1 where in the following 10 days we played Palace, Fulham & West Brom.
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Cup gates were bigger then, five figure attendance in the 1st round v York that season. I would expect the gate at an FA Cup game in 1993 to be bigger than a League Cup game now. I still think cup attendances took a hammering when we went to all seater.
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There was only 6 games pick which 1 you like and we can go through that side. Probably not the best choice though to pick 1 where we didn't lose, it doesn't help with your agenda.
So Olympiacos away
Heaton
Bardsley Long Gibson Ward
JBG Cork Hendrick Taylor
Wood Barnes
Lennon Tarks & Vokes used as subs
Lowton Vydra Hart Westwood unused
You seem to be linking a defeat means weak side put out
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Re: 2021/22: Burnley v Rochdale – Ticket Information
Of course it's Burnley that people go to watch, but more people go to watch Burnley when we're playing against more attractive opposition in more important fixtures. If we were playing Blackburn next Tuesday I can guarantee there would be a much higher attendance than there will be against Rochdale.ClaretMov wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 9:38 amWhat a load of crap, I was once told on here its Burnleyyou go to watch not the opposition.......what will be the reason given on here when the gate v Rochdale is under 8k, its a game that we should score a few goals, its a game we should win easy, we are playing a club 30 minutes drive away and a local derby against a team a lot of Burnley fan's will have never seen play against.
The reason is we play a second team with no respect to cup competition's (including European football) and we go out in the early rounds, that's why fan's vote with their feet and no other reason and before you ask yes I'll be there like always but I can see why plenty more don't
If I lived in or near Burnley I'd probably attend next Tuesday for the sake of a tenner. As I don't, and as I'm spending the best part of a whole day on Saturday watching us in a much more important and attractive fixture I will give it a miss. I suspect I'm not alone in that. My decision has absolutely nothing to do with the side that we put out as having the chance to see some of our fringe and young players if anything makes the fixture more attractive.
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You mean the reason you aren't going is we lost to Accy a few year back ?Rileybobs wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 12:02 pmOf course it's Burnley that people go to watch, but more people go to watch Burnley when we're playing against more attractive opposition in more important fixtures. If we were playing Blackburn next Tuesday I can guarantee there would be a much higher attendance than there will be against Rochdale.
If I lived in or near Burnley I'd probably attend next Tuesday for the sake of a tenner. As I don't, and as I'm spending the best part of a whole day on Saturday watching us in a much more important and attractive fixture I will give it a miss. I suspect I'm not alone in that. My decision has absolutely nothing to do with the side that we put out as having the chance to see some of our fringe and young players if anything makes the fixture more attractive.
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Totally agree with the all seater quoteClaretTony wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 11:02 amCup gates were bigger then, five figure attendance in the 1st round v York that season. I would expect the gate at an FA Cup game in 1993 to be bigger than a League Cup game now. I still think cup attendances took a hammering when we went to all seater.
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Fans have stocked up on paracetamol for the neckache they get in the league. Adding more stress to the neck and lower back is a no go from me anyways.
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Many of whom complain about how dour it is watching us trying to compete and miss the championship I.e.games we can win
Here we go Rochdale a bit different, winnable & large excitable away following
So what do people want
I miss the 4th division sometimes, I don’t want to go back there cos after 3 or 4 years I’ll be sick of going to the Carlisle’s Oldham’s etc
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I see West Ham have put their strongest 11 out in the Europa League.
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West Ham have made 5 changes from weekendclaretandy wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 5:34 pmI see West Ham have put their strongest 11 out in the Europa League.
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maybe they rotated at the weekend then.
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I don’t know why teams bother with having squads of 25-30 players
They just need the 20 players and stick with those
They just need the 20 players and stick with those