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Pendle Mountain

Post by Juan Tanamera » Sun Sep 12, 2021 2:49 pm

Just watched Songs Of Praise, which this week came from Pendle Hill.
Apparently, Pendle Hill is approximately 43 metres shy of being classed as a mountain.
Anyone fancy taking a few barrow loads of rocks and soil up? :o

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Re: Pendle Mountain

Post by Bosscat » Sun Sep 12, 2021 2:50 pm

Juan Tanamera wrote:
Sun Sep 12, 2021 2:49 pm
Just watched Songs Of Praise, which this week came from Pendle Hill.
Apparently, Pendle Hill is approximately 43 metres shy of being classed as a mountain.
Anyone fancy taking a few barrow loads of rocks and soil up? :o
https://youtu.be/UpcgeuOa96A

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Re: Pendle Mountain

Post by Juan Tanamera » Sun Sep 12, 2021 2:52 pm

Yeah, saw that a few years ago. 👍

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Re: Pendle Mountain

Post by morpheus2 » Sun Sep 12, 2021 2:55 pm

Yeah... mountains have sharp pointy tops on them (with the exceptions Tabletop and Sugarloaf) so yeah, stick the great pyramid on it and you could have it.
Ingleborough Pen-y-ghent and Wherneside are all mountain size but called hills so I dunno, bit of a grey area.

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Re: Pendle Mountain

Post by Volvoclaret » Sun Sep 12, 2021 2:56 pm

It will then become hill, hill mountain.

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Re: Pendle Mountain

Post by bobinho » Sun Sep 12, 2021 2:59 pm

I was under the impression it was 610m above sea level to qualify as a mountain irrespective of shape…. 🤔 that leaves Pendle 53m short by my reckoning…

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Re: Pendle Mountain

Post by bobinho » Sun Sep 12, 2021 3:01 pm

And have you noticed just how much nicer it looks from the Burnley side? 🤔😉👍🏻
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Re: Pendle Mountain

Post by Bosscat » Sun Sep 12, 2021 3:02 pm

bobinho wrote:
Sun Sep 12, 2021 2:59 pm
I was under the impression it was 610m above sea level to qualify as a mountain irrespective of shape…. 🤔 that leaves Pendle 53m short by my reckoning…
We are going to need more Wheelbarrows then 😁
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Re: Pendle Mountain

Post by Juan Tanamera » Sun Sep 12, 2021 3:08 pm

Bosscat wrote:
Sun Sep 12, 2021 3:02 pm
We are going to need more Wheelbarrows then 😁
:lol: :lol:

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Re: Pendle Mountain

Post by Cirrus_Minor » Sun Sep 12, 2021 3:18 pm

There used to be a tradition many years ago to take a stone up the hill and add to a pile at the top to make it a mountain. Bit daft since when after you have thrutched your way up there are already millions of stones already up there.

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Re: Pendle Mountain

Post by claptrappers_union » Sun Sep 12, 2021 3:25 pm

bobinho wrote:
Sun Sep 12, 2021 2:59 pm
I was under the impression it was 610m above sea level to qualify as a mountain irrespective of shape…. 🤔 that leaves Pendle 53m short by my reckoning…
You need to consider climate change too, and the rising sea levels…

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Re: Pendle Mountain

Post by Chobulous » Sun Sep 12, 2021 3:50 pm

Originally called Penhul which means hill hill, so now Pendle Hill is hill hill hill. It will always be a hill.

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Re: Pendle Mountain

Post by Bosscat » Sun Sep 12, 2021 4:21 pm

Chobulous wrote:
Sun Sep 12, 2021 3:50 pm
Originally called Penhul which means hill hill, so now Pendle Hill is hill hill hill. It will always be a hill.
Bit like River Avon = River River
Sahara Desert = Desert Desert
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Re: Pendle Mountain

Post by Siddo » Sun Sep 12, 2021 4:24 pm

morpheus2 wrote:
Sun Sep 12, 2021 2:55 pm
Yeah... mountains have sharp pointy tops on them (with the exceptions Tabletop and Sugarloaf) so yeah, stick the great pyramid on it and you could have it.
Ingleborough Pen-y-ghent and Wherneside are all mountain size but called hills so I dunno, bit of a grey area.
I do the 3 peaks almost every year and did Pen-Y -Ghent two weeks ago. All 3 are mountains and I have never seen them called hills in my climbing and walking books and magazines.

Pointed peaks are the exception on most mountains in the uk, but even though the highest is only 4400 feet, some of them are very difficult in normal conditions and outright dangerous in poor conditions.

I was caught out in a blizzard on Snowden a few years ago, and Allan Hinkes, the only English man to climb all 14 of the 8000mtr peaks almost died on Cat Bells in the lakes in a blizzard. Cat Bells is used as an introductory peak for beginners!

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Re: Pendle Mountain

Post by CharlieinNewMexico » Sun Sep 12, 2021 4:58 pm

bobinho wrote:
Sun Sep 12, 2021 2:59 pm
I was under the impression it was 610m above sea level to qualify as a mountain irrespective of shape…. 🤔 that leaves Pendle 53m short by my reckoning…
What if you already live 1100m above sea level and it’s flat like a desert 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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Re: Pendle Mountain

Post by IanMcL » Sun Sep 12, 2021 7:15 pm

CharlieinNewMexico wrote:
Sun Sep 12, 2021 4:58 pm
What if you already live 1100m above sea level and it’s flat like a desert 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
You live on top of a mountain desert!

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Re: Pendle Mountain

Post by Jakubclaret » Sun Sep 12, 2021 7:25 pm

Siddo wrote:
Sun Sep 12, 2021 4:24 pm
I do the 3 peaks almost every year and did Pen-Y -Ghent two weeks ago. All 3 are mountains and I have never seen them called hills in my climbing and walking books and magazines.

Pointed peaks are the exception on most mountains in the uk, but even though the highest is only 4400 feet, some of them are very difficult in normal conditions and outright dangerous in poor conditions.

I was caught out in a blizzard on Snowden a few years ago, and Allan Hinkes, the only English man to climb all 14 of the 8000mtr peaks almost died on Cat Bells in the lakes in a blizzard. Cat Bells is used as an introductory peak for beginners!
Technically all 3 are mountains because the elevation threshold is surpassed, the smallest 1 penyghent is often referred to as a fell or hill, regarding Pendle boulsworth is a far nicer climb.

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Re: Pendle Mountain

Post by Siddo » Sun Sep 12, 2021 7:32 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Sun Sep 12, 2021 7:25 pm
Technically all 3 are mountains because the elevation threshold is surpassed, the smallest 1 penyghent is often referred to as a fell or hill, regarding Pendle boulsworth is a far nicer climb.
Pen-Y-Ghent is a mountain mate. Anything over 2000ft is a mountain. Not sure where you are getting your information from?

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Re: Pendle Mountain

Post by Jakubclaret » Sun Sep 12, 2021 7:34 pm

Siddo wrote:
Sun Sep 12, 2021 7:32 pm
Pen-Y-Ghent is a mountain mate. Anything over 2000ft is a mountain. Not sure where you are getting your information from?
I said technically all 3 are mountains did you miss that part?
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Re: Pendle Mountain

Post by Leon_C » Sun Sep 12, 2021 7:45 pm

The mountains are calling and I must go.In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks.The clearest way into the Universe is through a forest wilderness.
John Muir

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Re: Pendle Mountain

Post by Bosscat » Sun Sep 12, 2021 7:46 pm

Siddo wrote:
Sun Sep 12, 2021 7:32 pm
Pen-Y-Ghent is a mountain mate. Anything over 2000ft is a mountain. Not sure where you are getting your information from?
Did you not actually read Jacubs post before posting Siddo ... 😂😂😂 go back to stalking Steve1956 🤭

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Re: Pendle Mountain

Post by minnieclaret » Sun Sep 12, 2021 7:47 pm

Knockhill race circuit in Scotland is hill hill and, of course, there is only one lake in the lake district. Anybody that says Lake Windermere needs a slap. It is Windermere, mere means lake.
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Re: Pendle Mountain

Post by bfcjg » Sun Sep 12, 2021 8:11 pm

I like a walk up Hambledon, great walks around the abandoned quaries then over the plateau to the trig point great views over the rossendale fells and towards Greater Manchester.
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Post by Vino blanco » Sun Sep 12, 2021 10:56 pm

Pendle Hill is actually hill hill hill. On this theme, Lake Chad in the country of Chad is Lake Lake.
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Re: Pendle Mountain

Post by Andreshotboots » Sun Sep 12, 2021 11:27 pm

Will never happen due to the protected mole colony at the Sabden side, apparently you can’t make a mountain out of a mole hill!…. I’ll get my coat. 😀
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Re: Pendle Mountain

Post by CharlieinNewMexico » Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:04 am

IanMcL wrote:
Sun Sep 12, 2021 7:15 pm
You live on top of a mountain desert!
It’s true! :D :D Our area is known as High Desert. But then there are “mountains” just off to the East that are another 500m tall. Are they mountainous mountains? To us in the valley they only look as big as Pendle Hill 🤣🤣🤣
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Re: Pendle Mountain

Post by Paul Waine » Mon Sep 13, 2021 9:53 am

Juan Tanamera wrote:
Sun Sep 12, 2021 2:49 pm
Just watched Songs Of Praise, which this week came from Pendle Hill.
Apparently, Pendle Hill is approximately 43 metres shy of being classed as a mountain.
Anyone fancy taking a few barrow loads of rocks and soil up? :o
Maybe a few will want to get down to Oxford Street before (or after) one of our London games and borrow the plans they used to build the Oxford Street Massif? (Or, was that Staines-upon-Thames)? ;)

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Re: Pendle Mountain

Post by Paul Waine » Mon Sep 13, 2021 10:00 am

bfcjg wrote:
Sun Sep 12, 2021 8:11 pm
I like a walk up Hambledon, great walks around the abandoned quaries then over the plateau to the trig point great views over the rossendale fells and towards Greater Manchester.
Great walk. Used to be up there a lot in the 60s, a long time before they cut through the back to put in a road.

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Re: Pendle Mountain

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Sep 13, 2021 10:04 am

Pendle Mountain just doesn't sound right - I'll stick with Hill I think.

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Re: Pendle Mountain

Post by wilks_bfc » Mon Sep 13, 2021 10:07 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Sep 13, 2021 10:04 am
Pendle Mountain just doesn't sound right - I'll stick with Hill I think.
Mount Pendle doesn’t sound too bad though
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Post by Gordaleman » Mon Sep 13, 2021 10:43 am

When I was growing up, (Along time ago.) I was told that the Americans wanted to build an airfield on top of Pendle during the war. Anyone know anything about that?

Pendle Mountain is in the Great Dividing Range of New South Wales by the way. https://www.mindat.org/feature-8167440.html

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Re: Pendle Mountain

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Sep 13, 2021 11:21 am

wilks_bfc wrote:
Mon Sep 13, 2021 10:07 am
Mount Pendle doesn’t sound too bad though
That sounds better

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Post by ŽižkovClaret » Mon Sep 13, 2021 11:23 am

Wonder how much time/work it would be to take a sufficient number of bags of sand and cement and slowly build a column up there?

You'd need decent foundations, but the water wouldn't be a problem as long as you had a big enough tarp and some water butts :lol:

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Re: Pendle Mountain

Post by ŽižkovClaret » Mon Sep 13, 2021 11:24 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Sep 13, 2021 10:04 am
Pendle Mountain just doesn't sound right - I'll stick with Hill I think.
Sounds like a fairground ride at TownleyLand

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Post by longsidetrumpet » Mon Sep 13, 2021 11:34 am

Siddo wrote:
Sun Sep 12, 2021 4:24 pm
I do the 3 peaks almost every year and did Pen-Y -Ghent two weeks ago. All 3 are mountains and I have never seen them called hills in my climbing and walking books and magazines.

Pointed peaks are the exception on most mountains in the uk, but even though the highest is only 4400 feet, some of them are very difficult in normal conditions and outright dangerous in poor conditions.

I was caught out in a blizzard on Snowden a few years ago, and Allan Hinkes, the only English man to climb all 14 of the 8000mtr peaks almost died on Cat Bells in the lakes in a blizzard. Cat Bells is used as an introductory peak for beginners!
Many many years we were youth hosteling in Wales at Easter time. We left Snowdon Ranger hostel in bright sunshine to take the zigzag track up to the rail line. The weather changed dramatically and it was thick mist from the line to the summit with rain and wind thrown in to boot. We, and everyone else up there, had to be guided off and I seem to remember a very narrow ledge involved. Glad I couldn’t see down

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Post by RMutt » Mon Sep 13, 2021 12:10 pm

Sounds like they took you off via Crib Goch, which seems an odd thing to do given the circumstances.

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Post by AfloatinClaret » Mon Sep 13, 2021 12:58 pm

Siddo wrote:
Sun Sep 12, 2021 7:32 pm
...Anything over 2000ft is a mountain...
I think the threshold depends which country you're in. That said, I'm sure that UK 'mountains' used to begin at 3000'? Have I misremembered, or has the requirement perhaps been lowered - like in so many areas in life - to avoid offending/discriminating against/putting too much peer-pressure on hills?
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Post by karatekid » Mon Sep 13, 2021 3:23 pm

I wonder where the film crew parked their cars whilst filming up pendle.

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Post by Bosscat » Mon Sep 13, 2021 5:47 pm

karatekid wrote:
Mon Sep 13, 2021 3:23 pm
I wonder where the film crew parked their cars whilst filming up pendle.
Barley 🤔

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Post by Rochdale Cowboy » Mon Sep 13, 2021 5:59 pm

Came across this on wiki.
This is a list of P600 mountains in Britain and Ireland by height. A P600 is defined as a mountain with a topographic prominence above 600 m (1,969 ft), regardless of elevation or any other merits (e.g. topographic isolation); this is a similar approach to that of the Marilyn, Simms, HuMP and TuMP British Isle mountain and hill classifications.

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Post by Loyalclaret » Mon Sep 13, 2021 7:03 pm

Had a couple of laps last night to support a lad who walked Pendle Hill for 48hrs straight, ending this morning at 10am for charity. Scott walked the equivalent of Mt Everest up and down...then some.

Thought it was an achievement when they did it for 24hrs last year but 48hrs!

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Post by ClaretTony » Wed Sep 15, 2021 10:15 am

I don't know about increasing the height so it can become a mountain. This morning it looks as though it is being lowered with the top disappearing.
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Re: Pendle Mountain

Post by houseboy » Wed Sep 15, 2021 12:46 pm

Juan Tanamera wrote:
Sun Sep 12, 2021 2:49 pm
Just watched Songs Of Praise, which this week came from Pendle Hill.
Apparently, Pendle Hill is approximately 43 metres shy of being classed as a mountain.
Anyone fancy taking a few barrow loads of rocks and soil up? :o
That’s surprised me Mick. I thought it was only about 15 metres. By the way went to the top of Rivington Pike again at weekend (quite a climb) and the view was, as always, amazing. I could see the sea, Cheshire, Blackpool Tower and something in the far distance that could have been north Wales. Wonderful.

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Post by Bosscat » Wed Sep 15, 2021 12:57 pm

We had a question in Friday nights quiz...
On a clear day whats the furthest thing you can see from the top of Mt Snowden on a clear day.

The answer was ... The Sun ...
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Post by Volvoclaret » Wed Sep 15, 2021 1:05 pm

Got to be careful of adding anything to raise the height the extra weight could collapse the Sabden treacle mines.🤔
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Post by ClaretTony » Wed Sep 15, 2021 1:17 pm

Volvoclaret wrote:
Wed Sep 15, 2021 1:05 pm
Got to be careful of adding anything to raise the height the extra weight could collapse the Sabden treacle mines.🤔
Has the work not been completed on the mines to ensure that they would be safe no matter what happened to Pendle?

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Post by Volvoclaret » Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:34 pm

No, supposed to be filled in by spare jam buys from Notty Ash but lazy scousers failed to turn up
Klopp said it was too dangerous

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Re: Pendle Mountain

Post by ICL » Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:52 pm

I’m pretty sure the stabilisation work has been completed. In fact, there is evidence that the Treacle People have found a new vein of treacle under Pendle. I saw evidence of recent mine excavations, behind a stand of liquorice trees above Sabden.

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Re: Pendle Mountain

Post by tarkys_ears » Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:03 pm

1) What is a mountain? (I presume something to do with height as per the OP)

2) Do we have any in England?

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Re: Pendle Mountain

Post by tiger76 » Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:20 pm

tarkys_ears wrote:
Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:03 pm
1) What is a mountain? (I presume something to do with height as per the OP)

2) Do we have any in England?
The first :?: is subjective, but yes it's apparently classed as a mountain if it's (2000ft) above sea level.

180 mountains in England alone, the highest of course being Scafell Pike.

Plenty more info and pics on this websitehttps://www.go4awalk.com/uk-mountains-a ... gland.php

One fact I discovered is that mountains are known as Hewitts in England, Ireland and Wales.

I obviously know they are known as Munros in Scotland, Ben Nevis being the highest.
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