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Re: Jack Cork

Post by groove » Sun Apr 10, 2022 4:10 pm

Why doesn't a journalist ask SD his reason for not playing Cork at the next presser? It's the one question we all want answering.
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Re: Jack Cork

Post by Murger » Sun Apr 10, 2022 4:13 pm

groove wrote:
Sun Apr 10, 2022 4:10 pm
Why doesn't a journalist ask SD his reason for not playing Cork at the next presser? It's the one question we all want answering.
Because they're all too pally with him.
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Re: Jack Cork

Post by RVclaret » Sun Apr 10, 2022 4:15 pm

groove wrote:
Sun Apr 10, 2022 4:10 pm
Why doesn't a journalist ask SD his reason for not playing Cork at the next presser? It's the one question we all want answering.
To be fair Alex James at Lancs Live seems to ask these questions but Dyche often just shuts him down
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Re: Jack Cork

Post by Neil » Sun Apr 10, 2022 4:21 pm

Cork is not the answer to our prayers. He'd be on the pitch for ten minutes before everyone would remember his shortcomings. Unfortunately the answer to our central midfield woes is not at our club.
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Re: Jack Cork

Post by RVclaret » Sun Apr 10, 2022 4:22 pm

Neil wrote:
Sun Apr 10, 2022 4:21 pm
Cork is not the answer to our prayers. He'd be on the pitch for ten minutes before everyone would remember his shortcomings. Unfortunately the answer to our central midfield woes is not at our club.
No, everyone was rightly singing his praises when he performed very well at Brighton and Spurs recently.

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Re: Jack Cork

Post by Murger » Sun Apr 10, 2022 4:27 pm

7 points from3 games with him in the team. It's all gone to **** since he was dropped.
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Re: Jack Cork

Post by claretspice » Sun Apr 10, 2022 4:28 pm

jdrobbo wrote:
Sun Apr 10, 2022 3:55 pm
How he doesn’t get in THAT midfield is beyond me. Absolutely crazy.
Utterly unforgivable that we went into that gand with a midfield that showed so little respect to the basics of retaining possession and giving decent service into thr 2 strikers. Cork should have started and so should McNeil.
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Re: Jack Cork

Post by claretspice » Sun Apr 10, 2022 4:28 pm

jdrobbo wrote:
Sun Apr 10, 2022 3:55 pm
How he doesn’t get in THAT midfield is beyond me. Absolutely crazy.
Utterly unforgivable that we went into that gand with a midfield that showed so little respect to the basics of retaining possession and giving decent service into the 2 strikers. Cork should have started and so should McNeil.

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Re: Jack Cork

Post by claretspice » Sun Apr 10, 2022 4:28 pm

jdrobbo wrote:
Sun Apr 10, 2022 3:55 pm
How he doesn’t get in THAT midfield is beyond me. Absolutely crazy.

Utterly unforgivable that we went into that gand with a midfield that showed so little respect to the basics of retaining possession and giving decent service into the 2 strikers. Cork should have started and so should McNeil.

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Re: Jack Cork

Post by CrosspoolClarets » Sun Apr 10, 2022 6:38 pm

Cork should have started on Wednesday but Dyche got lucky, Everton dominated midfield. Today was an obvious one like at Brighton where we had the chance to dominate.

Today, Westwood had a great 20 mins at the end of the first half but that was it. Retention of the ball, playing it on the deck and getting Brownhill up to support the strikers are the three main requirements that were lacking.

Cornet had a shocking miss but that would have got lucky again, the midfield two was our problem, and. also, Lowton back for a game whem it was attacking full backs needed not solidity (unlike Wednesday) because Norwich don’t have Brazil internationals.
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Re: Jack Cork

Post by DCWat » Sun Apr 10, 2022 6:39 pm

I’m finding a good few of Dyche’s decisions more and more baffling. He seems to have lost sight of what made us so effective.
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Re: Jack Cork

Post by warksclaret » Sun Apr 10, 2022 6:43 pm

As someone said on here recently-when someone cannot get in the team the readers think he is suddenly a better player. Take Lowton for example-endless opportunities to cross the ball in today , and I cannot recall a decent one, or any upgrade on Roberts. Westwood is poor at present but we dont become a better team with Cork in the side. The entire 3 CM's are just not up to PL or even top Championship quality
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Re: Jack Cork

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Sun Apr 10, 2022 6:44 pm

I doubt you’ll find a more inept central midfield pairing than Westwood and Brownhill at this level. Spend the game needlessly conceding possession.

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Re: Jack Cork

Post by BurnleyFC » Sun Apr 10, 2022 6:56 pm

Westwood needs binning but I’m not convinced we’d have won today’s game with Cork in the side.

The problems are deeper than that.

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Re: Jack Cork

Post by groove » Sun Apr 10, 2022 7:25 pm

I'm not saying Cork is now a world beater. I just think we were better with him in the side. Brownhill was a different player alongside Cork. He was woeful today.

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Re: Jack Cork

Post by ksrclaret » Sun Apr 10, 2022 7:26 pm

Every single fan can see we're a better side with Jack Cork playing.

The only one who can't see it is the manager who prefers Westwood's panicked whacks into the channel over Cork's more composed approached to retaining possession.
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Re: Jack Cork

Post by DCWat » Sun Apr 10, 2022 7:28 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Sun Apr 10, 2022 7:26 pm
Every single fan can see we're a better side with Jack Cork playing.

The only one who can't see it is the manager who prefers Westwood's panicked whacks into the channel over Cork's more composed approached to retaining possession.
A bit of footballing intelligence is exactly what we were missing today. Cork may be knocking on but he has that in spades.

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Re: Jack Cork

Post by boatshed bill » Sun Apr 10, 2022 7:29 pm

Cork has the ability to keep possession when under pressure; I don't see that in Brownhill, and Westwood doesn't even consider it an option.

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Re: Jack Cork

Post by ksrclaret » Sun Apr 10, 2022 7:31 pm

DCWat wrote:
Sun Apr 10, 2022 7:28 pm
A bit of footballing intelligence is exactly what we were missing today. Cork may be knocking on but he has that in spades.
Exactly, but it seems that Dyche values those hopeful punts higher than he values the team being able to keep hold of the ball and progress up the pitch with composure.

His decision to go with Westwood over Cork epitomises his view of how we should play. Direct punts over controlled, progressive play.

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Re: Jack Cork

Post by Rileybobs » Sun Apr 10, 2022 7:35 pm

I think it’s worth bearing in mind that Westwood is our right footed set piece taker, which no doubt plays a part in his selection. I’m not saying I agree with it but for a side that scores 1/3 of its goals from set pieces it is certainly a factor.

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Re: Jack Cork

Post by Goody1975 » Sun Apr 10, 2022 7:35 pm

I think it comes down to him seeing the Westwood & Brownhill combination as being more athletic.

They need to be more athletic as we spend almost the entire 90 minutes chasing the ball due to giving it away on a consistent basis, Westwood and Brownhill being two of the worst culprits. :roll:

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Re: Jack Cork

Post by boatshed bill » Sun Apr 10, 2022 7:37 pm

Goody1975 wrote:
Sun Apr 10, 2022 7:35 pm
I think it comes down to him seeing the Westwood & Brownhill combination as being more athletic.

They need to be more athletic as we spend almost the entire 90 minutes chasing the ball due to giving it away on a consistent basis, Westwood and Brownhill being two of the worst culprits. :roll:
Westwood's attempts to win back possession are very poor.

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Re: Jack Cork

Post by jdrobbo » Sun Apr 17, 2022 7:29 pm

A very impressive display from Jack today. And no surprise, better quality shown from those around him. He makes us a much better team!
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Re: Jack Cork

Post by Papabendi » Sun Apr 17, 2022 8:49 pm

jdrobbo wrote:
Sun Apr 17, 2022 7:29 pm
A very impressive display from Jack today. And no surprise, better quality shown from those around him. He makes us a much better team!
Shame your hero couldn't see the same

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Re: Jack Cork

Post by BabylonClaret » Sun Apr 17, 2022 8:55 pm

Yes but I'm wondering g if he really has the legs fornthe full games coming (we will find out i guess). Dyche isn't stupid - clearly he thought Westy should start (and seeing as he did today the I suspect that's a given) and then wanted Brownhill's energy - we needed that second goal today then we probably take all 3 but yet again we squander 2 points.

Last seaaon we would have won this

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Re: Jack Cork

Post by jdrobbo » Sun Apr 17, 2022 11:11 pm

Papabendi wrote:
Sun Apr 17, 2022 8:49 pm
Shame your hero couldn't see the same
Not with you?

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Re: Jack Cork

Post by BabylonClaret » Sun Apr 17, 2022 11:54 pm

jdrobbo wrote:
Sun Apr 17, 2022 11:11 pm
Not with you?
I think he means that Dayche (ie "your hero"l refused to play him John

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Re: Jack Cork

Post by jdrobbo » Sun Apr 17, 2022 11:57 pm

When have I ever said Dyche is my hero? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Yes I liked the guy but my hero is David Eyres! Ha.

Obviously Dyche wasn’t picking him: we all know that. 🤷‍♂️

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Re: Jack Cork

Post by jdrobbo » Thu Apr 21, 2022 10:50 pm

Outstanding….

YET

AGAIN
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Re: Jack Cork

Post by NewClaret » Thu Apr 21, 2022 11:21 pm

jdrobbo wrote:
Thu Apr 21, 2022 10:50 pm
Outstanding….

YET

AGAIN
This.

Whatever your views on the Dyche sacking, I think it’s clear his decisions to not play Cork more have had a significant impact on our league position.
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Re: Jack Cork

Post by Papabendi » Thu Apr 21, 2022 11:22 pm

jdrobbo wrote:
Sun Apr 17, 2022 11:11 pm
Not with you?
Dyche might still have a job

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Re: Jack Cork

Post by SalisburyClaret » Thu Apr 21, 2022 11:25 pm

2 stupid bookings in 2 games. Decent at blocking the keeper tonight. Can’t do 3 games in a week as we know so time for Stephens - unfortunately

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Re: Jack Cork

Post by Swizzlestick » Thu Apr 21, 2022 11:27 pm

Immediately improved our midfield. Dyche’s decision to drop him for Westwood was criminal after the Spurs/Brighton games.
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Re: Jack Cork

Post by alboclaret » Thu Apr 21, 2022 11:28 pm

Neil wrote:
Sun Apr 10, 2022 4:21 pm
Cork is not the answer to our prayers. He'd be on the pitch for ten minutes before everyone would remember his shortcomings. Unfortunately the answer to our central midfield woes is not at our club.

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Re: Jack Cork

Post by DCWat » Thu Apr 21, 2022 11:30 pm

SalisburyClaret wrote:
Thu Apr 21, 2022 11:25 pm
2 stupid bookings in 2 games. Decent at blocking the keeper tonight. Can’t do 3 games in a week as we know so time for Stephens - unfortunately
What from his performance tonight suggests that he can’t do 3 games in a week - do we know that, really?

We’ve been told all season that his legs have gone - a bizarre viewpoint. Is it just when you hit your thirties as a player that if you have a few below standard performances that it means your legs have gone?
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Re: Jack Cork

Post by Neil » Fri Apr 22, 2022 12:20 am

alboclaret wrote:
Thu Apr 21, 2022 11:28 pm
Played well on Sunday and very well tonight. Looked like he really cared as well. I'd love to be proved wrong but I stand by the post long term.
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Re: Jack Cork

Post by RVclaret » Fri Apr 22, 2022 6:31 am

Makes such a difference to our team. Gets about the pitch and links it very nicely. That’s now 3 wins out of 6 starts for the Brownhill / Cork partnership this season - our 3 best performances too. Only 1 loss together which was away at Anfield.

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Re: Jack Cork

Post by Hibsclaret » Fri Apr 22, 2022 7:35 am

Great again last night.

As if by magic Korker is running today in the 1.20 at Sandown and is the favourite. May cap a fine 24 hours for our underused midfield Dynamo. Another fine claret performance may be in the offing.

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Re: Jack Cork

Post by jdrobbo » Sun Apr 24, 2022 4:07 pm

Yet another magnificent performance from Jack and Josh in the middle of midfield. Cork just broke up the play and made those short simple passes, time and time again.

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Re: Jack Cork

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Apr 24, 2022 4:11 pm

the glue

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Re: Jack Cork

Post by Superjohnnyfrancis » Sun Apr 24, 2022 4:13 pm

Keeps it simple doesn’t punt it into the stratosphere so was the forgotten man for too long!

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Re: Jack Cork

Post by Murger » Sun Apr 24, 2022 4:14 pm

Amazing how good we are when we actually pass the ball.
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Re: Jack Cork

Post by RVclaret » Sun Apr 24, 2022 4:20 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Sun Apr 24, 2022 4:11 pm
the glue
Perfect description. Gets a nice week rest now to prepare for Watford.

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Re: Jack Cork

Post by xxmunkyennuixx » Sun Apr 24, 2022 4:26 pm

Jack recycles the ball and keeps us ticking over. That second half was immense there. He flew into a few tackles. Proper gutsy.

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Re: Jack Cork

Post by jdrobbo » Sun Apr 24, 2022 4:41 pm

Spot on

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Re: Jack Cork

Post by jdrobbo » Sat Apr 30, 2022 4:59 pm

Ohhhhh Jack, what did you do?

Magnificent again!!!!

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Re: Jack Cork

Post by DCWat » Sat Apr 30, 2022 5:09 pm

jdrobbo wrote:
Sat Apr 30, 2022 4:59 pm
Ohhhhh Jack, what did you do?

Magnificent again!!!!
I wouldn’t say he (or Brownhill for that matter) were magnificent today. They were well under par but great to see both of them turn it around for us at the end.
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Re: Jack Cork

Post by RVclaret » Sat Apr 30, 2022 5:12 pm

DCWat wrote:
Sat Apr 30, 2022 5:09 pm
I wouldn’t say he (or Brownhill for that matter) were magnificent today. They were well under par but great to see both of them turn it around for us at the end.
Agree with this - thought they were well off their recent standard but both come up with unlikely goals, unreal!

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Re: Jack Cork

Post by DAVETHEVICAR » Sat Apr 30, 2022 5:12 pm

It is the 3 points that matter not the performance at this stage of the season
Hope for some good marks tonight
Nothing below 7

I will post when I have watched the whole 90 minutes

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Re: Jack Cork

Post by elwaclaret » Sat Apr 30, 2022 5:14 pm

I thought the midfield looked completely overrun until Barnes came on to give the team some grit (I do wish Ashley and one or two others would realise they are not going to get slight shows this year and ignore them, though. Great to see Cork make that run though, perfect timing cool finish… and same for Brownhill; but we need to address our lack of midfield weight.

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