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Re: That Tarkowski Tackle
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 3:39 pm
by quoonbeatz
Swizzlestick wrote: ↑Tue Sep 14, 2021 3:20 pm
Thought it was reckless and was lucky to avoid at least a yellow. Think we'd be fuming if, for example, Godfrey flies in on McNeil like that.
You might be, I wouldn't.
Re: That Tarkowski Tackle
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 3:41 pm
by Vegas Claret
Re: That Tarkowski Tackle
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 3:47 pm
by Ashingtonclaret46
It will not be too long before those running the game ---the PL Elite ---- get together and devise a way of protecting their players by asking that every physical challenge is seen as a foul one way or the other. I'm sure that Klopp and Benitez will be on the case already!
It has been a refreshing start to the season with referees allowing contact and not blowing for a free kick every time a player is tackled and goes down. Sadly, I do not think that this will last and I shall be in the same boat as sikyskills.
Re: That Tarkowski Tackle
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 4:22 pm
by IanMcL
Booking. Hardly touched the ball and had every intention of sorting mr Brazil.
Re: That Tarkowski Tackle
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 4:46 pm
by Silkyskills1
Vegas Claret wrote: ↑Tue Sep 14, 2021 3:10 pm
1 footed tackle, both feet on the ground, in complete control. If that goes out of the game we might as well pack it in and have the chuckle brothers in charge.
That might be nearer than you think. Klopp's beautiful game in Teutonic colour.
Re: That Tarkowski Tackle
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 4:48 pm
by Vegas Claret
IanMcL wrote: ↑Tue Sep 14, 2021 4:22 pm
Booking. Hardly touched the ball and had every intention of sorting mr Brazil.
I do sometimes wonder if you are on a wind up and nothing else
Re: That Tarkowski Tackle
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 4:49 pm
by IanMcL
Vegas Claret wrote: ↑Tue Sep 14, 2021 4:48 pm
I do sometimes wonder if you are on a wind up and nothing else
Very accurate summary.
Richardson was due one, so no issue from me, that he did it. My description prevails.
Re: That Tarkowski Tackle
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 4:50 pm
by quoonbeatz
IanMcL wrote: ↑Tue Sep 14, 2021 4:22 pm
Booking. Hardly touched the ball and had every intention of sorting mr Brazil.
Hardly touched the ball? He launched it into row z.
Re: That Tarkowski Tackle
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 4:55 pm
by CFS
For all the back and forth about the tackle he went missing for the goals no point acting like cannavaro then turn into a mouse when your needed most.
Re: That Tarkowski Tackle
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 4:55 pm
by IanMcL
quoonbeatz wrote: ↑Tue Sep 14, 2021 4:50 pm
Hardly touched the ball? He launched it into row z.
You are mistaking ball for Richarlison. It was him in row z!
Re: That Tarkowski Tackle
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 4:56 pm
by taio
CFS wrote: ↑Tue Sep 14, 2021 4:55 pm
For all the back and forth about the tackle he went missing for the goals no point acting like cannavaro then turn into a mouse when your needed most.
From time to time he will make mistakes like all defenders. But he doesn't make many and has been excellent for us.
Re: That Tarkowski Tackle
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 4:59 pm
by quoonbeatz
IanMcL wrote: ↑Tue Sep 14, 2021 4:55 pm
You are mistaking ball for Richarlison. It was him in row z!
You've mistaken a pigeon for Richarlison. Easily done I suppose.
Re: That Tarkowski Tackle
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 5:12 pm
by IanMcL
The ball was the first contact. The follow through was major and meant. A booking but one he would have happily accepted, had the ref given him one!
Brownhill, on the other hand was literally pushed over by Townsend, who got the fk, where he wanted it and got Brownhill booked.
Re: That Tarkowski Tackle
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 5:25 pm
by HunterST_BFC
Re: That Tarkowski Tackle
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 5:58 pm
by Woodleyclaret
Great challenge against a serial winger
Re: That Tarkowski Tackle
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 6:05 pm
by DCWat
The modern game would probably see that as ‘endangering the player’ and I wouldn’t have been surprised to see a red card.
However, my view is that these sort of challenges are becoming too much of a rarity in the modern game. It was a proper, old school, fair but firm challenge.
In some respects, I think that the modern player is less prepared for such a challenge. They almost expect not to be challenged in such a way.
I don’t want to see injuries but nor do I want the game to become so light touch that it becomes more of a shadow of what it used to be.
Re: That Tarkowski Tackle
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 6:06 pm
by joey13
Woodleyclaret wrote: ↑Tue Sep 14, 2021 5:58 pm
Great challenge against a serial winger
He plays through the middle also
Re: That Tarkowski Tackle
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 6:09 pm
by taio
DCWat wrote: ↑Tue Sep 14, 2021 6:05 pm
The modern game would probably see that as ‘endangering the player’ and I wouldn’t have been surprised to see a red card.
However, my view is that these sort of challenges are becoming too much of a rarity in the modern game. It was a proper, old school, fair but firm challenge.
In some respects, I think that the modern player is less prepared for such a challenge. They almost expect not to be challenged in such a way.
I don’t want to see injuries but nor do I want the game to become so light touch that it becomes more of a shadow of what it used to be.
Great post and perfectly summarises how I feel. Strong tackling is a fine skill but too often in short supply. Unfortunately it's disappearing from the game. I realise that y view may be seen as outdated by some.
Re: That Tarkowski Tackle
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 6:15 pm
by Red Fox Rocks Socks
DCWat wrote: ↑Tue Sep 14, 2021 6:05 pm
In some respects, I think that the modern player is less prepared for such a challenge. They almost expect not to be challenged in such a way.
I agree with this. Players are less inclined to protect themselves. You used to know if you found yourself in that position you were getting smashed. You’d try and knock it past the defender and send him flying past you and you’re a world beater.
However, if you sense he’s got you you get your legs up in the air to avoid your studs getting caught and make sure you land on the defender with knees and elbows so he thinks twice next time
Re: That Tarkowski Tackle
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 6:48 pm
by Spijed
Yet the players at the big clubs, such as Fernandinho at Man City have been able to foul players week in, week out, without the remotest chance of getting a yellow.
And all that said, we are arguably one of the cleanest teams in the Prem with regards to red cards.
Re: That Tarkowski Tackle
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 8:06 pm
by IanMcL
Agree Spijed. Certain players are spared the indignity of a yellow, until they deserved a red.
Re: That Tarkowski Tackle
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 8:44 pm
by Colburn_Claret
IanMcL wrote: ↑Tue Sep 14, 2021 4:22 pm
Booking. Hardly touched the ball and had every intention of sorting mr Brazil.
There's no such thing as hardly touched the ball, you either hit it, or you don't. Tarks got plenty of the ball, and to make that contact he had little option other than to follow through. I'm sure Tarks enjoyed it, as did we, but if he intended to injure him, then I've no doubt he would have.
Re: That Tarkowski Tackle
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 8:48 pm
by fidelcastro
IanMcL wrote: ↑Tue Sep 14, 2021 4:22 pm
Booking. Hardly touched the ball and had every intention of sorting mr Brazil.
I do wonder what game you watch sometimes.
Re: That Tarkowski Tackle
Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2021 9:11 am
by Blatherwickstattoo
Dark Cloud wrote: ↑Tue Sep 14, 2021 1:17 pm
Yes, I was really annoyed we never got to see exactly what really went on with Richarlison's challenge on Mee, but it clearly wasn't very good and left Mee prostrate. Tarky for one was incensed by it and that was obviously in his mind when he tackled Richarlison in the second half. A fair challenge for me tbh, but one which left Richarlison thinking twice and looking over his shoulder and there's nowt wrong with that!!!
That’s the one mate. Weird how sky isn’t show it at all, the commentators were woeful that night too. Constantly saying we were roughing Everton up yet disregarding tackles like this and the penalty until 10 mins later on and in this case never at al. Sick of it.
The fact Neville and they spitting scouse called the tarks one a bad tackle just shows the hypocrisy of sky and it’s pundits.
Falling out of love with football even more at the minute and that’s not because of dycheball either
Re: That Tarkowski Tackle
Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2021 9:17 am
by bf2k
Blatherwickstattoo wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 9:11 am
That’s the one mate. Weird how sky isn’t show it at all, the commentators were woeful that night too. Constantly saying we were roughing Everton up yet disregarding tackles like this and the penalty until 10 mins later on and in this case never at al. Sick of it.
The fact Neville and they spitting scouse called the tarks one a bad tackle just shows the hypocrisy of sky and it’s pundits.
Falling out of love with football even more at the minute and that’s not because of dycheball either
"Dycheball"??? In previous seasons I would have agreed with you but this season I'm not seeing much of the hoof ball during our games. Maybe late on in games but generally it's been a lot more expansive.
Have to agree on the commentators. There was a real Everton love-in going on.
Re: That Tarkowski Tackle
Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2021 9:29 am
by Blatherwickstattoo
bf2k wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 9:17 am
"Dycheball"??? In previous seasons I would have agreed with you but this season I'm not seeing much of the hoof ball during our games. Maybe late on in games but generally it's been a lot more expansive.
Have to agree on the commentators. There was a real Everton love-in going on.
I’m using Dycheball as a generalisation really. No plan B is the main issue. But in my defence as long as Barnes is on the pitch we will always play dycheball.
Also another daft thing is that we play like we have with the same side against arsenal we win on Saturday.
Re: That Tarkowski Tackle
Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2021 9:31 am
by IanMcL
In addition to his tattoos, Richarlison reports that the letters TARKS have appeared in bruising to his legs.
Re: That Tarkowski Tackle
Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2021 9:57 am
by Rumpelstiltskin
Imagine if Kevin Ball was in our midfield now.Just what we need to beef up our midfield.Legendary tackle on David Dunn.Klopp would have had a heart attack !
Re: That Tarkowski Tackle
Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2021 9:58 am
by Blatherwickstattoo
Rumpelstiltskin wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 9:57 am
Imagine if Kevin Ball was in our midfield now.Just what we need to beef up our midfield.Legendary tackle on David Dunn.Klopp would have had a heart attack !
Or Deary
Re: That Tarkowski Tackle
Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2021 1:50 pm
by joey13
At least it’s managed to unite the fans of Everton,Liverpool, and Leeds who’d have thought
Re: That Tarkowski Tackle
Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:13 pm
by elwaclaret
Silkyskills1 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 14, 2021 11:49 am
As mentioned earlier, Tarks had warned the Brazilian what might happen. Bided his time, saw his opportunity and frightened him. Got the ball, which is why tackling is part of the game. Won't be for long though because the beautiful game remains an impossible dream for many. The Brazilian didn't seem too interested after that although they won a throw-in. Once tackling is eliminated from a game that would just about be it for me but I've had a good 'run'.
I seriously considered giving up on Premier after last season.The Euros gave enough for me to look see if the refereeing would improve this season, and it is a much better watch this time around… but if and when the prima donnas get their way again, that will be it for me.
Re: That Tarkowski Tackle
Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:37 pm
by wilks_bfc
joey13 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 1:50 pm
At least it’s managed to unite the fans of Everton,Liverpool, and Leeds who’d have thought
And Villa
Re: That Tarkowski Tackle
Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:48 pm
by elwaclaret
No one likes us… do we care?
Re: That Tarkowski Tackle
Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:53 pm
by Vegas Claret
fair to say we are living rent free in a lot of supporter bases heads right now, rather amusing
Re: That Tarkowski Tackle
Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2021 4:00 pm
by Taffy on the wing
Richarlison had it coming & he got it!
Re: That Tarkowski Tackle
Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2021 5:50 pm
by pureclaret
given the amount of publisity that is now bean directed at Tarks and others in burnley team i expect we will end up being down to 9 men on saturday