England move up to third in men's world rankings

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England move up to third in men's world rankings

Post by tiger76 » Thu Sep 16, 2021 2:30 pm

Equalling their highest ever position, so Southgate must be doing something right.https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/58581144

Not that the rankings mean very much, Italy aren't even in the top 4 despite their record unbeaten run, and winning the Euro's in the process.

While Belgium remain at the top in spite of exiting the Euro's in the last 8.

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Re: England move up to third in men's world rankings

Post by bfcmik » Thu Sep 16, 2021 4:04 pm

Cue the, "But we are s**t", comments

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Re: England move up to third in men's world rankings

Post by gawthorpe_view » Thu Sep 16, 2021 4:55 pm

But we're s**t.
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Re: England move up to third in men's world rankings

Post by tiger76 » Thu Sep 16, 2021 4:57 pm

gawthorpe_view wrote:
Thu Sep 16, 2021 4:55 pm
But we're s**t.
True but not as s**t as France. :lol:
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Re: England move up to third in men's world rankings

Post by Bosscat » Thu Sep 16, 2021 5:16 pm

Not as S**t as Italy either...

Hang on 🤔 didn't we play them recently in a final 🤔

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Re: England move up to third in men's world rankings

Post by Steve1956 » Thu Sep 16, 2021 5:37 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Thu Sep 16, 2021 2:30 pm
Equalling their highest ever position, so Southgate must be doing something right.https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/58581144

Not that the rankings mean very much, Italy aren't even in the top 4 despite their record unbeaten run, and winning the Euro's in the process.

While Belgium remain at the top in spite of exiting the Euro's in the last 8.
For all the abuse he gets,Southgate still keeps moving forward,all power to him,can see him winning the World Cup next.😉

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Re: England move up to third in men's world rankings

Post by tiger76 » Thu Sep 16, 2021 5:49 pm

Steve1956 wrote:
Thu Sep 16, 2021 5:37 pm
For all the abuse he gets,Southgate still keeps moving forward,all power to him,can see him winning the World Cup next.😉
I'm not sure any of the European nations will fare particularly well in Qatar TBH, the climate won't be conducive to a high pressing game, which most European countries favour, I'd say Italy or Spain have the best hope if any European nation is going to mount a challenge.

Regarding England if we're going to stand a chance we'll need to retain possession much more than we currently do against the top sides, this lack of composure and game management has cost us in key matches.

But I do agree progress is being made, and Euro 2024 might just come as the current crop are hitting their peak, I'd say that's England best shot at finally winning a major tournament again.

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Re: England move up to third in men's world rankings

Post by Steve1956 » Thu Sep 16, 2021 5:52 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Thu Sep 16, 2021 5:49 pm
I'm not sure any of the European nations will fare particularly well in Qatar TBH, the climate won't be conducive to a high pressing game, which most European countries favour, I'd say Italy or Spain have the best hope if any European nation is going to mount a challenge.

Regarding England if we're going to stand a chance we'll need to retain possession much more than we currently do against the top sides, this lack of composure and game management has cost us in key matches.

But I do agree progress is being made, and Euro 2024 might just come as the current crop are hitting their peak, I'd say that's England best shot at finally winning a major tournament again.
No he might not win in Qatar,I was thinking more of the World Cup after that one,no one else for the job,specially English.

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Re: England move up to third in men's world rankings

Post by tiger76 » Thu Sep 16, 2021 6:02 pm

Steve1956 wrote:
Thu Sep 16, 2021 5:52 pm
No he might not win in Qatar,I was thinking more of the World Cup after that one,no one else for the job,specially English.
Yes England should still be competitive come 2026, and that's what's so encouraging with the present cohort, most of them are still young enough to improve, and play 2/3/4 major tournaments.

You can readily compare Dyche and Southgate, both have their vocal critics, however you can't deny they both get results, which in football is the be all and end all.

And neither Burnley or England have enjoyed such sustained levels of success for decades, so they must both be doing something right in their management.
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Re: England move up to third in men's world rankings

Post by timshorts » Fri Sep 17, 2021 7:10 am

You are 6th in the elo rankings which are generally more realistic.
They were last ranked number 1 in 1988.

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Re: England move up to third in men's world rankings

Post by JohnMac » Fri Sep 17, 2021 3:04 pm

Southgate has done what is asked of him but the players have just come up short.

This is arguably the best England set up and squad possibly of all time and if they get the final bit right they could become the dominant force for the foreseeable future. It's all down to fine margins as SD would say.

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Re: England move up to third in men's world rankings

Post by kazza » Fri Sep 17, 2021 3:17 pm

JohnMac wrote:
Fri Sep 17, 2021 3:04 pm
Southgate has done what is asked of him but the players have just come up short.

This is arguably the best England set up and squad possibly of all time and if they get the final bit right they could become the dominant force for the foreseeable future. It's all down to fine margins as SD would say.
My first tournament watching England was Italia 90, and for me, this is the best squad I've seen.

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Re: England move up to third in men's world rankings

Post by Froobs » Fri Sep 17, 2021 3:18 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Thu Sep 16, 2021 2:30 pm
Equalling their highest ever position, so Southgate must be doing something right.https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/58581144

Not that the rankings mean very much, Italy aren't even in the top 4 despite their record unbeaten run, and winning the Euro's in the process.

While Belgium remain at the top in spite of exiting the Euro's in the last 8.
Maybe on paper
But we arent in the top 5 teams in the world

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Re: England move up to third in men's world rankings

Post by BurnleyFC » Fri Sep 17, 2021 3:18 pm

The FIFA world rankings are akin to the Darts world rankings when Rod Harrington was world number 1 ahead of Phil Taylor.

Absolute nonsense.

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Re: England move up to third in men's world rankings

Post by Rowls » Fri Sep 17, 2021 3:21 pm

Southgate is gash

I have a nasty recurring nightmare whereby Sir Sean Dyche leaves us 4 years time, just as Southgate departs the FA gravy train.

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Re: England move up to third in men's world rankings

Post by tiger76 » Fri Sep 17, 2021 3:23 pm

Froobs wrote:
Fri Sep 17, 2021 3:18 pm
Maybe on paper
But we arent in the top 5 teams in the world
Well results in the last 2 major tournaments would suggest otherwise.

4th in Russia 2018.

2nd at Euro 2020.

And although it might not be considered a major competition.

3rd in the Nations League 2019.

So if what you claim is true, then Gareth Southgate is overachieving with this squad.

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Re: England move up to third in men's world rankings

Post by Froobs » Fri Sep 17, 2021 4:20 pm

Hes is definitely overachieving. Fair play to the guy

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