Your starting eleven vs Arsenal

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Fri Sep 17, 2021 10:50 am

Team selections to be based on current fitness. Long and Robert’s unavailable.

Pope
Lowton Tarks Mee Taylor
Brownhill
Cork Westwood
Cornet Wood Mcneil

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Fri Sep 17, 2021 10:53 am

I'd make two changes from Monday - Cork & Vydra for Brownhill & Barnes

Iloveyoubrady · Post by **Iloveyoubrady** » Fri Sep 17, 2021 10:55 am

What will it be: same again, maybe cork and Vydra but unlikely.

What would I like to see:

Pope
Lowts Tarks Mee Taylor
Brownhill Westwood
Cornet McNeil JBG
Wood

taio · Post by **taio** » Fri Sep 17, 2021 10:55 am

Pope
Lowton
Tarkowski
Mee
Taylor
Gudmundsson
Cork
Westwood
McNeil
Vydra
Wood

Hbclaret007 · Post by **Hbclaret007** » Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:09 am

I fully expect SD to become more cautious and flood midfield tomorrow, therefore:

Pope
Lowton Tarky Mee Taylor
JBG Brownhill Cork Westwood McNeil
Wood

But I wouldn't be suprised at all if he went with the same 11 as Monday night.

I would like to see, when players are fit and ready of course:

Pope
Roberts Tarky Mee Taylor
Cornet Cork Westwood McNeil
Wood Vydra

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:10 am

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Fri Sep 17, 2021 10:53 am
I'd make two changes from Monday - Cork & Vydra for Brownhill & Barnes

Exact same as this from me.

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:13 am

And me.

Hb’s second selection I’d like to be seeing in the next month or so….once the players are up to speed and fully aware of their roles.

ClaretAL · Post by **ClaretAL** » Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:20 am

If everyone was fit, I would love to see something like the below. But for tomorrow I think CT could be correct.

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claretburns · Post by **claretburns** » Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:21 am

Pope
Lowton
Tarkowski
Mee
Taylor
JBG
Cork
Westwood
McNeil
Wood
Barnes

Arsenal's frailties in defence in defending long balls, corners, free kicks etc will be why Barnes will start with Wood.

Funkydrummer · Post by **Funkydrummer** » Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:23 am

Barnes

Barnes Barnes Barnes Barnes

Barnes Barnes Barnes Barnes

Barnes Barnes

ClaretMov · Post by **ClaretMov** » Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:25 am

Pope

Lowton Tarks Mee Taylor

Cornet Brownhill Westwood Mcneil

Vydra Wood

Mala591 · Post by **Mala591** » Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:39 am

Pope
Lowton Tarks Mee Taylor
JBG Brownhill Cork McNeil
Wood Vydra

Westwood to replace Cork on 65 mins if he looks to be tiring

Cornet to replace JBG around 65 mins if we are losing

Lowton and JBG are now under pressure from Roberts and Cornet (spellcheck tried to change his name to Comet

) so they must put in good performances every match

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:40 am

I know it won't happen but I wouldn't mind seeing 5-4-1

We have had massive problems in between Taylor and Mee on the left, but Aubameyang usually rips Lowton apart on his inside.

But we need to get after them as well. Get a win on the board, so put your best players on the pitch Dychey lad.

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:55 am

ClaretAL wrote: ↑
Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:20 am
If everyone was fit, I would love to see something like the below. But for tomorrow I think CT could be correct.

lineup (1).png

That is one of strangest starting elevens I have ever seen

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:56 am

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Fri Sep 17, 2021 10:53 am
I'd make two changes from Monday - Cork & Vydra for Brownhill & Barnes

I think that’s a fair and the most realistic line up for tomorrow

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:58 am

ClaretAL wrote: ↑
Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:20 am
If everyone was fit, I would love to see something like the below. But for tomorrow I think CT could be correct.

lineup (1).png

kazza · Post by **kazza** » Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:59 am

I can't see Vydra starting unfortunately. It'll be Barnes again.

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Fri Sep 17, 2021 12:01 pm

Funkydrummer wrote: ↑
Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:23 am
Barnes

Barnes Barnes Barnes Barnes

Barnes Barnes Barnes Barnes

Barnes Barnes

Oh give it a rest Sean…..

Goobs · Post by **Goobs** » Fri Sep 17, 2021 12:03 pm

Probably be the same again although if any changes are made likely to be Barnes and JBG that drop out for Cork and Vyds IMO.

What I would like to see is

Pope
Lowton Tarks Mee Taylor
Cork Brownhill
JBG McNeil Cornet
Wood

SalisburyClaret · Post by **SalisburyClaret** » Fri Sep 17, 2021 12:04 pm

5 in midfield with wood up front.

Cornet on for the last 15 if we’re losing

Lennon to keep the bench warm

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Fri Sep 17, 2021 12:08 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:55 am
That is one of strangest starting elevens I have ever seen

More Terry Venables than Dyche.

It wouldn't be a bad shout to play against Rochdale though.

JTClaret · Post by **JTClaret** » Fri Sep 17, 2021 12:14 pm

One of 2:

Pope
Lowton Tarks Mee Pieters
JBG Westwood Cork McNeil
Wood Vydra

I thought about Cornet on the left with McNeil as CAM, but I don't actually know if Cornet is any good.

or

Pope
Lowton Collins Tarks Mee Cornet
Cork Westwood
JBG McNeil
Wood

Truth be told, I just think we need to shore up the left back position. Most of the goals we have conceded this season have come from Taylor, whether not close enough, slipping or just generally not dealing with the situations. He's great going forward, but we are losing Mee when he has to try and cover for him defensively. Pieters is always solid if not spectacular and in that left back position I just want solid at the moment.

I don't think I'll say anything that hasn't already been said about Barnes. He used to be a player we imagined would be horrible to play against, I don't think that is the case at the moment, in any sense.

Boss Hogg · Post by **Boss Hogg** » Fri Sep 17, 2021 12:25 pm

It will be really disappointing too see Brownhill or Barnes start but I expect at least one of them will. It will also be disappointing to see really late reactive subs again.

Iloveyoubrady · Post by **Iloveyoubrady** » Fri Sep 17, 2021 12:38 pm

JTClaret wrote: ↑
Fri Sep 17, 2021 12:14 pm
One of 2:

Pope
Lowton Tarks Mee Pieters
JBG Westwood Cork McNeil
Wood Vydra

I thought about Cornet on the left with McNeil as CAM, but I don't actually know if Cornet is any good.

or

Pope
Lowton Collins Tarks Mee Cornet
Cork Westwood
JBG McNeil
Wood

Truth be told, I just think we need to shore up the left back position. Most of the goals we have conceded this season have come from Taylor, whether not close enough, slipping or just generally not dealing with the situations. He's great going forward, but we are losing Mee when he has to try and cover for him defensively. Pieters is always solid if not spectacular and in that left back position I just want solid at the moment.

I don't think I'll say anything that hasn't already been said about Barnes. He used to be a player we imagined would be horrible to play against, I don't think that is the case at the moment, in any sense.

One of the stranger ones this. Need to improve left back defensively, so put cornet who is more attacking in.

RicardoMontalban · Post by **RicardoMontalban** » Fri Sep 17, 2021 12:40 pm

ClaretAL wrote: ↑
Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:20 am
If everyone was fit, I would love to see something like the below. But for tomorrow I think CT could be correct.

lineup (1).png

Blimey! If you think we get steamrollered in centre midfield at the moment imagine what would happen here!

Reckon it’ll be same again. Barnes kept in with a brief to wind up as many Arsenal players as possible, but little else.

Blatherwickstattoo · Post by **Blatherwickstattoo** » Fri Sep 17, 2021 12:54 pm

Pope

Lowton
Tarks
Mee
Taylor

McNeil
Brownhill
Westwood
JBG

Wood
Barnes

houseboy · Post by **houseboy** » Fri Sep 17, 2021 12:57 pm

Funkydrummer wrote: ↑
Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:23 am
Barnes

Barnes Barnes Barnes Barnes

Barnes Barnes Barnes Barnes

Barnes Barnes

This would be a perfect line up for SD but Barnes is no goalkeeper.

houseboy · Post by **houseboy** » Fri Sep 17, 2021 1:01 pm

I’d like to see (other than Barnes out for Vydra of course) Cornet out on left, JBG on right and McNeil shifted in to right midfield. Think that would a pretty wicked left side. But would it make us unbalanced?

HahaYeah · Post by **HahaYeah** » Fri Sep 17, 2021 1:23 pm

Pope
Lowton
Tarkowski
Mee
Taylor
Gudmundsson
Brownhill
Westwood
McNeil
Wood
Barnes

Local cricketer · Post by **Local cricketer** » Fri Sep 17, 2021 1:37 pm

ClaretAL wrote: ↑
Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:20 am
If everyone was fit, I would love to see something like the below. But for tomorrow I think CT could be correct.

lineup (1).png

What have you been sniffing?

Pickles · Post by **Pickles** » Fri Sep 17, 2021 1:49 pm

ClaretAL wrote: ↑
Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:20 am
If everyone was fit, I would love to see something like the below. But for tomorrow I think CT could be correct.

lineup (1).png

Wow. One central midfielder.

Smidge · Post by **Smidge** » Fri Sep 17, 2021 2:05 pm

Probably only change will be Cork for Barnes if any
That way he can bring Barnes on for last ten minutes if we are behind!

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Fri Sep 17, 2021 2:15 pm

I think changes are needed.

Pope
Lowton Tarky Mee Pieters
Cornet Cork Westwood McNeil
Vydra Wood

Harsh on Taylor, but I think we need some defensive solidity down that left flank which has been lacking in recent games. Cork for Brownhill is for the same reason, and a little more composure on the ball. Vydra for Barnes simply because Ash is not offering anything at the moment, it has to be done.

Cornet a wild card and unlikely to happen I realise, but I think we need more penetration down the right and certainly a pacy outlet.

JTClaret · Post by **JTClaret** » Fri Sep 17, 2021 2:41 pm

Iloveyoubrady wrote: ↑
Fri Sep 17, 2021 12:38 pm
One of the stranger ones this. Need to improve left back defensively, so put cornet who is more attacking in.

I only put Cornet in as there are 3 centre backs... I do see your point though, but Cornet is a left wing-back isn't he?
I suppose I could have left Taylor in, but like I mentioned, mistakes are coming from him.

JohnMac · Post by **JohnMac** » Fri Sep 17, 2021 2:43 pm

Pope
Lawton Tarkowski Mee Taylor
JBG Westwood Cork Brownhill McNeil
Wood
451
Extra midfield required to shut up the flow of balls through our lines.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Fri Sep 17, 2021 2:44 pm

jedi_master wrote: ↑
Fri Sep 17, 2021 2:15 pm
I think changes are needed.

Pope
Lowton Tarky Mee Pieters
Cornet Cork Westwood McNeil
Vydra Wood

Harsh on Taylor, but I think we need some defensive solidity down that left flank which has been lacking in recent games. Cork for Brownhill is for the same reason, and a little more composure on the ball. Vydra for Barnes simply because Ash is not offering anything at the moment, it has to be done.

Cornet a wild card and unlikely to happen I realise, but I think we need more penetration down the right and certainly a pacy outlet.

Complete myth that Pieters is a better defender than Taylor.

taio · Post by **taio** » Fri Sep 17, 2021 2:55 pm

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Fri Sep 17, 2021 2:44 pm
Complete myth that Pieters is a better defender than Taylor.

He didn't say he was to be fair. He was referring to some recent defensive weaknesses from Taylor. He's right and there is a case for Pieters although personally I'd stick with Taylor.

EarbyClaret · Post by **EarbyClaret** » Fri Sep 17, 2021 3:13 pm

Would be very surprised if Barnes is dropped for this one - Vydra sooner rather than later if things aren't going well but not a starter

Cork for Brownhill - that seems sensible if we've got the ball but not so sure without it

nyclaret · Post by **nyclaret** » Fri Sep 17, 2021 3:16 pm

Pope

Lowton
Tarks
Mee
Taylor

Cornet
Westwood
Cork
JBG

McNeil

Wood

kazza · Post by **kazza** » Fri Sep 17, 2021 3:18 pm

Pope
Lowton Tark Mee Taylor
JBG Westwood Cork McNeil
Vydra
Wood

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Fri Sep 17, 2021 3:29 pm

The 3 that should come into contention for this one, are Cork, Pieters & Vydra. For Brownhill, Taylor and Barnes respectively.

Pope
Lowton Tarks Mee Pieters
JBG Westwood Cork McNeil
Vydra Wood

Dodobdobodobo · Post by **Dodobdobodobo** » Fri Sep 17, 2021 3:31 pm

We all know how Sean works “We wasn’t to far off the mark on Monday so we’ll start with the same XI that started the game on Monday!”

bf2k · Post by **bf2k** » Fri Sep 17, 2021 3:44 pm

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Fri Sep 17, 2021 10:53 am
I'd make two changes from Monday - Cork & Vydra for Brownhill & Barnes

Can't disagree with that. To be honest I don't think we've got too many more options than that either.

Nonayforever · Post by **Nonayforever** » Fri Sep 17, 2021 3:49 pm

Pope

Tarks Collins Mee

JBG Westwood Cork Brownhill Taylor

McNeil

Wood

I am only dreaming though !

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Fri Sep 17, 2021 3:52 pm

Nonayforever wrote: ↑
Fri Sep 17, 2021 3:49 pm
Pope

Tarks Collins Mee

JBG Westwood Cork Brownhill Taylor

McNeil

Wood

I am only dreaming though !

I really don’t get the obsession with going three at the back. None of our CBs are quick enough or have the distribution to play in that system. We would get torn apart by any team with speed.

Our record of playing 3 CBs highlights this. (conceded 4 goals on average across two games).

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Fri Sep 17, 2021 4:05 pm

Funkydrummer wrote: ↑
Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:23 am
Barnes

Barnes Barnes Barnes Barnes

Barnes Barnes Barnes Barnes

Barnes Barnes

Barnes to fill the bench?

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Fri Sep 17, 2021 4:16 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Fri Sep 17, 2021 3:52 pm
I really don’t get the obsession with going three at the back. None of our CBs are quick enough or have the distribution to play in that system. We would get torn apart by any team with speed.

Our record of playing 3 CBs highlights this. (conceded 4 goals on average across two games).

Don’t know which games you are referring to but I can only recall three v Spurs, Arsenal & Everton although we did concede eight.

Totally agree though that our squad is not set up for playing three central defenders.

Woodleyclaret · Post by **Woodleyclaret** » Fri Sep 17, 2021 4:20 pm

Pope
Collins Tarks Mee Taylor
Cornet Brownhill Westwood McNeil
Barnes Wood

Murger · Post by **Murger** » Fri Sep 17, 2021 4:24 pm

Agreed with CT.

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Fri Sep 17, 2021 4:27 pm

Difficult to choose as we really have no idea about the fitness or which position Cornet would play. But here goes

Hennessey
Lowton Tarks Mee Taylor
Cornet Cork Westwood McNeil
Vydra Wood