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Your starting eleven vs Rochdale
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 2:55 pm
by Newcastleclaret93
Hennessey
Bardsley Collins Long Pieters
Lennon Brownhill Mancini Gudmundsson
Vydra Rodriguez
Re: Your starting eleven vs Rochdale
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 3:03 pm
by Quickenthetempo
The players who need game time more than anything.
Hennessey
Bardsley
Collins
Thomas
Pieters
JGB
Cork
Mancini
Cornet
Vydra
J Rod
If all going well, bring on McNeil for Vydra for the last half hour playing 451 with McNeil off the striker.
This is the game to try a new possession based formation.
Maybe bring on Stevens or Roberts if they're ready for 20 mins?
Re: Your starting eleven vs Rochdale
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 3:09 pm
by Vino blanco
I would try something different:
Hennessy
Bards Tarks Collins Pieter
Brownhill
Cork. McNeil
Vydra Jayrod. Cornet
Tell them to attack at will.
Re: Your starting eleven vs Rochdale
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 3:11 pm
by kazza
No point risking Cornet. We know what happens when we play lower league teams. And I wouldn't play McNeil either.
Re: Your starting eleven vs Rochdale
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 3:13 pm
by Vino blanco
Cornet needs minutes, take him off after 60 mins if necessary. Try McNeil in left midfield for a change. Something needs to change.
Re: Your starting eleven vs Rochdale
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 3:13 pm
by Vegas Claret
Hennessey
Bardsley, Collins, Thomas, Pieters
Mancini
Barnes
J Rod
rest u23's I've not heard of
Re: Your starting eleven vs Rochdale
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 3:14 pm
by kazza
Vino blanco wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 3:13 pm
Cornet needs minutes, take him off after 60 mins if necessary. Try McNeil in left midfield for a change. Something needs to change.
He does need minutes - just not against a rough tackling lower league side.
Re: Your starting eleven vs Rochdale
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 3:16 pm
by tiger76
Not 100% certain who's fit, but here goes.
Hennessey
Bards Collins Long (or Thomas) if Kev isn't fit Pieters
JBG Cork Stephens (if fit) Cornet (for the 1st hour)
Vydra Jay
That XI should be good enough to see off Rochdale, and although it's only the cup, a win would be welcome.
Re: Your starting eleven vs Rochdale
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 3:16 pm
by Vino blanco
He’s not made of glass, he’s a professional footballer.
Re: Your starting eleven vs Rochdale
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 3:25 pm
by Tall Paul
Not sure why posters seem to think Rochdale are tough tackling, they're top of the League Two fair play table with just 7 bookings this season.
Re: Your starting eleven vs Rochdale
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 3:27 pm
by Iloveyoubrady
Is Roberts ready to play yet? If so I’d go
Hennessy
Bardsley Collins Thomas Pieters
Roberts Cork Mancini Lennon
Richardson Rodriguez
With cornet, Vydra, Wood, McNeil available to win it if required.
Re: Your starting eleven vs Rochdale
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 3:30 pm
by ClaretTony
Iloveyoubrady wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 3:27 pm
Is Roberts ready to play yet? If so I’d go
Hennessy
Bardsley Collins Thomas Pieters
Roberts Cork Mancini Lennon
Richardson Rodriguez
With cornet, Vydra, Wood, McNeil available to win it if required.
Roberts not fit, Richardson off injured yesterday.
Re: Your starting eleven vs Rochdale
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 3:31 pm
by ClaretTony
Hennessey
Bardsley Collins Long Pieters
Lennon Brownhill/Westwood Cork Cornet
Vydra Rodriguez
Re: Your starting eleven vs Rochdale
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 3:36 pm
by ClaretMov
Hennessey
Bardsley Collins Thomas Taylor
Lennon Cork Westwood Pieters
Barnes Rodriguez
Re: Your starting eleven vs Rochdale
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 3:42 pm
by Vegas Claret
Sounds like Rochdale have nearly sod all their tickets which is good news
Re: Your starting eleven vs Rochdale
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 3:47 pm
by AlargeClaret
Hennessey
Bardsley Collins Mee/Tarky Pieters
Lennon Westwood Cork Cornet
Vydra Rodriguez
Not quite sure how close Kev Long/Stevens are to match fitness ,though I’d imagine changes if we can put this tie quickly to bed .
Re: Your starting eleven vs Rochdale
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 3:49 pm
by EarbyClaret
Hennessey
Bardsley
Collins
Mee
Pieters
Lennon
Brownhill
Cork
Cornet
Vydra
Wood
Re: Your starting eleven vs Rochdale
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 3:49 pm
by Iloveyoubrady
Vegas Claret wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 3:42 pm
Sounds like Rochdale have nearly sod all their tickets which is good news
Doesn’t look like we’ve sold that many home tickets
Re: Your starting eleven vs Rochdale
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 3:51 pm
by Jakubs Tash
I would imagine it'll be....
Hennessey
Bardsley Collins Long Pieters
Lennon Brownhill Cork Cornet
Vydra Rodriguez
Re: Your starting eleven vs Rochdale
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 3:58 pm
by boatshed bill
Hennessey,
Bardsley, Collins, Thomas, Pieters,
Lennon, Cork (C) Mancini, Dodgson,
Rodriguez, Vydra.
Re: Your starting eleven vs Rochdale
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 4:13 pm
by RVclaret
ClaretTony wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 3:31 pm
Hennessey
Bardsley Collins Long Pieters
Lennon Brownhill/Westwood Cork Cornet
Vydra Rodriguez
This for me too although maybe Thomas for Long.
Re: Your starting eleven vs Rochdale
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 4:15 pm
by Local cricketer
Same as Saturday. We are going for it this year
Re: Your starting eleven vs Rochdale
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 4:25 pm
by ClaretTony
Long not ready, similarly Roberts and Richardson is ruled out.
Re: Your starting eleven vs Rochdale
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 4:42 pm
by RVclaret
Local cricketer wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 4:15 pm
Same as Saturday. We are going for it this year
Find that hard to believe…
Re: Your starting eleven vs Rochdale
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 4:43 pm
by warksclaret
Hennessy
Bardsley
Tarkowski
Collins
Peters
Cornet
Cork
Brownhill
McNeil
Vydra
Rodriguez
Re: Your starting eleven vs Rochdale
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 4:49 pm
by BleedingClaret
Hennessey
Bardsley Collins Thomas Pieters
Lennon Mancini Cork Cornet
Vydra JRod
Re: Your starting eleven vs Rochdale
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 4:52 pm
by Taffy on the wing
Tall Paul wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 3:25 pm
Not sure why posters seem to think Rochdale are tough tackling, they're top of the League Two fair play table with just 7 bookings this season.
Their fans are very excited about the way they're playing.
Re: Your starting eleven vs Rochdale
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 4:52 pm
by BleedingClaret
Local cricketer wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 4:15 pm
Same as Saturday. We are going for it this year
If we put out the same team as Saturday
then we are not putting out our best team to win it
Re: Your starting eleven vs Rochdale
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 5:10 pm
by FCBurnley
Pope
Lowton Tarks Mee Taylor
Cornet Westwood Brownhill McNeil
Wood Barnes
We need a win so let’s start tomorrow
Re: Your starting eleven vs Rochdale
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 5:12 pm
by Iloveyoubrady
With our larger squad we can win this with 6 or 7 changes.
With Roberts, Richardson and long out I’ll go for
Hen
Bards Collins Thomas Pieters
Lennon Cork Mancini Cornet (swap with DM or JBG after 60)
Jay rod Barnes
Re: Your starting eleven vs Rochdale
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 5:18 pm
by Lancasterclaret
Surely we have to try to get a home win, regardless of the competition?
That is something we need to change, and as soon as possible
Re: Your starting eleven vs Rochdale
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 5:21 pm
by claretandy
Hennessy
Bards Collins Thomas Pieters
Lennon Cork Mcneil Cornet
Jay Vydra
Re: Your starting eleven vs Rochdale
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 5:27 pm
by KRBFC
Hennessy
Lowton Collins Thomas Mee Pieters
Westwood Brownhill Mcneil
Vydra Cornet
We need a win, this team has forgot how to win.
We have out of form players, they need game time to play themselves into form.
Re: Your starting eleven vs Rochdale
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 5:33 pm
by Local cricketer
BleedingClaret wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 4:52 pm
If we put out the same team as Saturday
then we are not putting out our best team to win it
I’m been sarcastic. When I hear the team i will post it
Re: Your starting eleven vs Rochdale
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 5:34 pm
by MACCA
Hennessy
Bardsley Collins Long ( Mee if Long unfit ) Pieters
Lennon Cork Mancini Cornet ( 60 mins then JBG )
Vydra ( 65 mins for Barnes ) Jay ( deserves a chance )
Shame Richardson and Stephen's are out as I'd have them starting
Should run out comfortable winners
Re: Your starting eleven vs Rochdale
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 6:17 pm
by Firthy
Hennessey
Bardsley Collins Thomas Pieters
JBG Cork Mancini Cornet
Vydra JRod
Re: Your starting eleven vs Rochdale
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 6:27 pm
by NRC
I would be going 451, playing a first choice midfield and striker - just to see how it works to do that, with Cornet's arrival and one of him OR McNeil to play behind the front man
Re: Your starting eleven vs Rochdale
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 6:33 pm
by kazza
NRC wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 6:27 pm
I would be going 451, playing a first choice midfield and striker - just to see how it works to do that, with Cornet's arrival and one of him OR McNeil to play behind the front man
4-5-1 against Rochdale? I could understand away to one of the top teams, but to be more defensive-minded against Rochdale, not for me.
Re: Your starting eleven vs Rochdale
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 6:47 pm
by NRC
ok, let me restate it - 4231, but against Rochdale, per the point you make, I thought it was a bit obvious. I see it as an ideal opportunity to trial it
Re: Your starting eleven vs Rochdale
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 6:50 pm
by Dodobdobodobo
Hennessey
Bardsley Collins Thomas Pieters
JBG Cork Westwood Lennon
Vydra JRod
Re: Your starting eleven vs Rochdale
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 6:58 pm
by ClaretAL
Just listened to the presser and no wonder people point to "Dyche Fit", he singled out Cornet twice to be "struggling with the pace" ??? I must have watched a different match, but he does have a point on putting a team out that can beat Rochdale, so i dont see many First team players on this 1 as opposed to what we had seen against Newcastle.
Re: Your starting eleven vs Rochdale
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 6:59 pm
by JohnMac
Hennessey
Bardsley Collins Thomas Pieters
Lennon Gomez-Mancini Cork Cornet
Richardson Vydra
Re: Your starting eleven vs Rochdale
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 7:07 pm
by sandy richardson
I like the look of Vydra Rodriguez.
Wasn't that an Elvis film?
Re: Your starting eleven vs Rochdale
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 8:29 pm
by Vintage Claret
Hennessey
Bards Mee Collins Pieters
McNeil Cork Westwood Taylor
Vydra Rodriguez
Re: Your starting eleven vs Rochdale
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 8:40 pm
by HunterST_BFC
Try another formation...
Constantly getting played through our midfield with a 4 4 2
Maybe 3 at back
2 wide FBs
1 Sitting MF (Cork)Paired with one higher up (eg Brownhill)
A flexible 3 forwards -Jay - Wood - Vyds
Re: Your starting eleven vs Rochdale
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 8:40 pm
by BleedingClaret
ClaretAL wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 6:58 pm
Just listened to the presser and no wonder people point to "Dyche Fit", he singled out Cornet twice to be "struggling with the pace" ??? I must have watched a different match, but he does have a point on putting a team out that can beat Rochdale, so i dont see many First team players on this 1 as opposed to what we had seen against Newcastle.
I think there was a brief moment where Cornet seemed to signal, not me, as in he didn’t want the ball and needed to get his 2nd wind.
That said he seemed to be involved in everything from the moment that he came on, from attacking to winning the ball back and getting into the box, all a bit frantic and I think it was a little more frantic than he was expecting.
Re: Your starting eleven vs Rochdale
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 8:42 pm
by BleedingClaret
Local cricketer wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 5:33 pm
I’m been sarcastic. When I hear the team i will post it
Yeah I knew you weren’t serious pal, I just took the opportunity to make the point that I don’t think Barnes starting is currently the way we are going to win a do
Re: Your starting eleven vs Rochdale
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 8:46 pm
by Iloveyoubrady
BleedingClaret wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 8:40 pm
I think there was a brief moment where Cornet seemed to signal, not me, as in he didn’t want the ball and needed to get his 2nd wind.
That said he seemed to be involved in everything from the moment that he came on, from attacking to winning the ball back and getting into the box, all a bit frantic and I think it was a little more frantic than he was expecting.
I think it was more likely he was saying he didn’t want the ball because he was being marked. That said, his fitness can clearly improve but what he did add in half an hour was very promising - especially if he wasn’t fit.
Re: Your starting eleven vs Rochdale
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 8:46 pm
by Gordaleman
Iloveyoubrady wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 3:27 pm
Is Roberts ready to play yet? If so I’d go
Hennessy
Bardsley Collins Thomas Pieters
Roberts Cork Mancini Lennon
Richardson Rodriguez
With cornet, Vydra, Wood, McNeil available to win it if required.
I've never understood bringing your best players on late if you aren't winning. I would always play a strong team to start with and get a lead, then take my best players off. How many games have teams like Man U lost through starting with weak teams?
Re: Your starting eleven vs Rochdale
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 8:48 pm
by Iloveyoubrady
Gordaleman wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 8:46 pm
I've never understood bringing your best players on late if you aren't winning. I would always play a strong team to start with and get a lead, then take my best players off. How many games have teams like Man U lost through starting with weak teams?
True but IMO we can win it without them. I’m saying we should have them available in order to get a goal if needed.