Iloveyoubrady wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 20, 2021 8:48 pm

True but IMO we can win it without them. I’m saying we should have them available in order to get a goal if needed.

Just how many times have we lost to lesser opposition through playing a weakened team? Quite a few, I can tell you. So why not try and win the game in the first half and take our better players off if we have a comfortable lead?

Gordaleman wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 20, 2021 8:52 pm

Just how many times have we lost to lesser opposition through playing a weakened team? Quite a few, I can tell you. So why not try and win the game in the first half and take our better players off if we have a comfortable lead?

Risk of injury. We aren’t that bothered if we win the game or not, so risking our best players for a long period doesn’t seem an attractive proposition. If we do play our best players and go a goal down, dyche can’t then be seen to take them off.
Also our squad is a lot larger that it has been historically, so I would hope our 2nd 11 could beat most championship sides, never mind league 2 teams. You never know though and we do always seem to play badly in the cups...

That has certain
Y been the case, but I suspect our new owners would quite like to start life with a trophy.

Hen
Bards Collins mee pieters
Jbg cork brownhill McNeil
Barnes jay rod

I think it’ll be the following -

Hennessy
Bardsley
Collins
Thomas
Pieters
Lennon
Cork
Westwood
Cornet
Vydra
Rodriguez

However I’d like to see Gomez-Mancini for Westwood but I think AW needs to find some form. Would also like to see Max Thompson involved some how

Iloveyoubrady wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 20, 2021 9:14 pm

We aren’t that bothered if we win the game or not,

Couldn't disagree more. I believe that getting our first home win since January is absolutely crucial tomorrow.
Get that monkey off our back and take some form into the league.
I'd play a strong team.

Hennessey
Bardsley
Bobby Thomas
Collins
Pieters
Lennon
Cork
Brownhill
Cornet
Vydra
Jay Rod

I'd like to see something along the lines of the below assuming all are fit enough.

Hennessey
Bards (swap with Roberts later) Collins Thomas Pieters
Thompson Mancini (Swap with Stephens) Cork Cornet
Jay Vydra

Goobs wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 21, 2021 12:21 am

I'd like to see something along the lines of the below assuming all are fit enough.

Hennessey
Bards (swap with Roberts later) Collins Thomas Pieters
Thompson Mancini (Swap with Stephens) Cork Cornet
Jay Vydra

They clearly won't all be fit enough.

fidelcastro wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 21, 2021 12:23 am

They clearly won't all be fit enough.

Who won't be fit enough? (Genuinely not sure on where people are at injury wise.

Haven't Roberts and Stephens played in U23's or behind closed doors recently? Only on about them getting 20 mins or so later on if so.

Goobs wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 21, 2021 12:28 am

Who won't be fit enough? (Genuinely not sure on where people are at injury wise.

Haven't Roberts and Stephens played in U23's or behind closed doors recently? Only on about them getting 20 mins or so later on if so.

It's mentioned by CT further up the thread.

fidelcastro wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 21, 2021 12:31 am

It's mentioned by CT further up the thread.

Cheers. Also just realised I left Lennon out of the team.

Hennessy

Bardsley
Collins
Mee
Peters

Cornet
Brownhill
McNeil
Taylor

Lennon
Rodriguez

Heenessey
Bardsley
Pieters
Tarkowski/Thomas
Collins
Lenton
Cork
Westwood
Cornet
Rodriguez
Vydra

Hennessy

Bardsley
Collins
Thomas
Peters

Roberts
Cork
Mancini
Lennon

Vydra
Rodriguez


No need to risk Cornet in this

I don't think? Stephens is fit, so I'm pretty sure he won't feature. I'm also not sure I'd risk Cornet as he's going to be crucial in the coming weeks. Hopefully some of the fringe/back up guys get a trot out (Bardsley, Collins, Cork, Richardson etc) but let's remember that all of us who say "give the younger lads and the fringe players a do, it's ONLY Rochdale" will all be spitting feathers on here tomorrow if we lose it and it'll be the same old "Dyche never takes the cups seriously" diatribe. We'll see.

Let’s be honest any team we put out with first team squad should be more than capable of seeing off Rochdale, they can’t beat Rochdale well…. If it’s made up with some U23s that’s a different story.

Definitely want to see Thomas at CB with Collins.

It seems strange that our ‘second eleven’ players aren’t playing serious competitive football on a regular league basis. Why not set up a Northern England second eleven league (Central League Northern ).

Surely it must be better than ‘wasted careers’ playing training football all the time.

Hennesey
Bardslet - Collins - Mee - Pieters
Lennon - Mancini - Cork - McNeil (Sub for Cornet after 45-60 mins)
Rodriguez - Barnes

buzzclarets79 wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 21, 2021 10:48 am

Let’s be honest any team we put out with first team squad should be more than capable of seeing off Rochdale, they can’t beat Rochdale well…. If it’s made up with some U23s that’s a different story.

Definitely want to see Thomas at CB with Collins.

No doubt we all thought the same thing before losing to Lincoln, Accy, Port Vale, Burton etc.

Hennessy
Bardo Collins Thomas Pieters
Lennon Cork Westwood Cornet
Vyds Jay

Collins would learn more being partnered with Mee. Ready for next season.

Hen
Bardsley Collins Mee Pieters
Lennon Cork Brownhill/Westwood Cornet (he needs match fitness, game time is only going to help).
Vydra Rodriguez

Only risking two regular first teamers but giving a maximum of game time to first team players.

I'd be surprised if we play any u23s with first team players available. Maybe a few on the bench like Mancini and Thompson who might get a run out if we're 4-0 up after an hour.

Hennessey
Bardsley Collins Mee Pieters
Lennon Mancini Cork Cornet
Vydra Rodriguez

Subs
Norris, Thomas, Taylor, Westwood, Dodgson, JBG, Mellon

With the plan to bring on Thomas, Mellon and Dodgson for the final 30 mins or so (earlier in the unlikely situation
of the game being sewn up). Replacing Mee, Cornet and Vydra.

Would have had Richardson in the place of Mellon but injury obviously rules him out and Mellon has started the season in such good form it deserves the recognition IMO.

Do wonder if Mancini is injured or not. If he is then guess that just means giving Westwood a full 90 or putting Helm on the bench and giving him 30 mins instead of Thomas or Mellon.

How many subs are we allowed to bring on
in this

Vydra and Jay upfront. Can’t give the full team because apparently Rochdale employ someone to look at the oppositions fans sites for info

BleedingClaret wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 21, 2021 3:08 pm

How many subs are we allowed to bring on
in this

Any club can have 9 on the bench, but can only bring 3 on. At least I think that's the case.

tiger76 wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 21, 2021 5:22 pm

Any club can have 9 on the bench, but can only bring 3 on. At least I think that's the case.

I think it's seven subs.

As for the team, I think there will be a decent number of changes from Saturday but I'm expecting an experienced team.

line up apparently

Bizarre to not have any of the u23s on the bench.

Strong side again

Needlessly strong side?

Murger wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 21, 2021 6:49 pm

Bizarre to not have any of the u23s on the bench.

Burnley first team fixture. Burnley first team squad players picked.

I like that side.

Is Richardson injured as he's not even making the bench?

Spijed wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 21, 2021 6:51 pm

Is Richardson injured as he's not even making the bench?

Injured

SalisburyClaret wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 21, 2021 6:50 pm

Needlessly strong side?

minutes for some, form finding for others

Spijed wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 21, 2021 6:51 pm

Is Richardson injured as he's not even making the bench?

Yes

Dyched wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 21, 2021 6:50 pm

Burnley first team fixture. Burnley first team squad players picked.

We're playing Rochdale.

Is Hennessey out?

Can't afford not to win at home again even if we are only playing a League 2 side.

Maybe we are going to give it a go this year? It helps to have more strength in depth of course, but that side looks very strong. I like it.

Thomas for tarky is probably the only change I would have made from that line up.

Ther's seven changes - it's a good side

I mean if we don’t do these at a canter with that team there’s something very wrong. It’s Rochdale.

Would of liked to see Thomas for Tarks.

Told only 6000 expected on TM tonight and think that includes the 2,300 from Rochdale.

Decent side. As said above regardless of the opposition we need to start winning, especially at home, and soon. A good performance/win tonight could set us up nicely.

Murger wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 21, 2021 6:52 pm

We're playing Rochdale.

Many need minutes. Be pointless giving lads minutes without some who have been playing. Take a those that have been playing out for others, it makes it hard work for the ones coming in to get some kind of momentum. Pointless giving young lads game time because they won’t play in the big games.

Isn’t it eight changes?

Culmclaret wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 21, 2021 6:59 pm

Isn’t it eight changes?

Something like that

Murger wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 21, 2021 6:52 pm

We're playing Rochdale.

Maybe this time we won't lose to a lower league team like we have done in the past...

Some Burnley Fans: Dyche needs to start taking cup competitions more seriously!

*Dyche takes competition seriously.

Some Burnley Fans: Where are the young players?

Seriously the guy cannot do anything to please some people.